Re: 4D eMail Editor - full HTML support

2019-07-24 Thread Spencer Hinsdale via 4D_Tech

Have you looked at 4D PDF Printer?
http://node.de/indexplug.htm

We use it to automate printing from 4D to PDF and then emailing using Outlook.

However, it also has PRO features for reading from Outlook into 4D.  Looking at 
the Demo, when I click on Outlook Email Parsing Client it lists messages in 
Outlook (takes a minute with 6000 msgs) showing their details.  I don't see 
HTML offhand but it looks like you could automate the copy/paste (export, read 
.eml, ...)

Hth,
spencer




On 7/24/19, 12:34 PM, "4D_Tech on behalf of rooftop99--- via 4D_Tech" 
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

Thanks to all who have offered suggestions.  Super helpful!  The biggest 
challenge I face is the spec calls for composing the email in Outlook first, 
then copying and pasting the final version into 4D with full preview and edit 
capability.  None of my tests have proved this is possible. (There is always 
something wacky in the transfer.)  However, your input has given me ideas on 
how we might take a different path to get to the same end result.  We’ll see...

Much appreciated!
Kirk

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Re: REATE SELECTION FROM ARRAY

2019-07-24 Thread stardata.info via 4D_Tech

Chip,

I have done some tests without result, in my system I not have the same 
issue. The configuration is a 4D SERVER and Two clients.
The plausible case is that the record is locked, and when the record is 
unlocked, all work normally.


Thanks

Ferdinando

Il 24/07/19 22:51, Chip Scheide ha scritto:

Ferdinando,
the test I outlined below will test this scenario
the 2 processes represent 2 users.
this test scenario is roughly equivalent to the the situation for live
system with 2 users; and it allows **you** to test the situation, in
the office, on your development system rather then going to the users
site for an indefinite time to wait/try to replicate the error.

On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 22:32:39 +0200, stardata.info wrote:

Chip,

The situation is this:

1 - Client_1 create the record.

2 - At the same time, Client_2 run a loop process every two seconds,
that search if there are new records using QUERY command.

If there are new record, Client_2 do:

SELECTION TO ARRAY([TABEL];Array)

ON ERR CALL ("ERR_MANAGER")

CREATE SELECTION FROM ARRAY([TABEL];Array)

ON ERR CALL ("")

At this point i have -10503 error.

Later wiht the same record number that give -10503 error, ( i know it
because i write a log ) everything works without error.

Thanks

Ferdinando

Il 24/07/19 22:10, Chip Scheide ha scritto:

Ferdinando

to test:
in one process: create (or edit) a record
in a second process: put the record number of the new/edited record
into an array
and create selection from array

if you get the error then this is the problem,
you might be able to catch the error with an On Err Call method.
If you do not get the error - then I would run MSC and repair the data
file.

Chip

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Re: Query by Formula Join vs. Comparison

2019-07-24 Thread Tom Benedict via 4D_Tech
Jim Medlen writes:

> On Jul 24, 2019, at 13:28, Jim Medlen via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I am trying to do a Query Selection By Formula that links two tables by the 
> filed ItemNum
> with the condition that the value of a field in the first table does not 
> equal a value in the second table.
> 
> When I look at the ResultPlan there is a Join on the Price fields even when I 
> used the # comparison.
> 
> How do I define a comparison vs a join ?
> 

I don’t have direct answer to your question, but I’ve frequently found it 
helpful to write these kind of comparisons in SQL rather than trying to 
understand what 4D may be thinking internally. It’s easier to be explicit in 
SQL, at least in my experience. I’m not good enough at SQL to write something 
off the top of my head, especially when I don’t have the data to test it on.

Sorry this isn’t much help.

Tom

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Query by Formula Join vs. Comparison

2019-07-24 Thread Jim Medlen via 4D_Tech

I am trying to do a Query Selection By Formula that links two tables by the 
filed ItemNum
with the condition that the value of a field in the first table does not equal 
a value in the second table.

When I look at the ResultPlan there is a Join on the Price fields even when I 
used the # comparison.

How do I define a comparison vs a join ?


C_TEXT($vResultPlan;$vResultPath)
DESCRIBE QUERY EXECUTION(True) //analysis mode

Query Selection by Formula([ItemDiscounts];\
( ([ItemDiscounts]ItemNum=[Items]ItemNum) \
& ([ItemDiscounts]BasePrice#[Items]PriceB) \
& ([Items]PriceA#0)))

$vResultPlan:=Get last query plan(Description in text format)
ConsoleMessage("vResultPlan\r"+$vResultPlan)
$vResultPath:=Get last query path(Description in text format)
ConsoleMessage("vResultPath\r"+$vResultPath)

DESCRIBE QUERY EXECUTION(False) //End of analysis mode


vResultPlan
Join on Table : Items  :  ItemDiscounts.ItemNum = Items.ItemNum & 
ItemDiscounts.BasePrice = Items.PriceB
Items.PriceA != 0
vResultPath
Join on Table : Items  :  ItemDiscounts.ItemNum = Items.ItemNum & 
ItemDiscounts.BasePrice = Items.PriceB
Items.PriceA != 0   (3247 records found in 4 ms)
--> 4030 records found in 22 ms

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Re: REATE SELECTION FROM ARRAY

2019-07-24 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
Ferdinando 

to test:
in one process: create (or edit) a record
in a second process: put the record number of the new/edited record 
into an array
and create selection from array 

if you get the error then this is the problem, 
you might be able to catch the error with an On Err Call method.
If you do not get the error - then I would run MSC and repair the data 
file.

Chip

On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 21:42:38 +0200, stardata.info wrote:
> Hi Chip,
> 
> The database is ok.
> 
> Consider that this issue appares when in another process one user add 
> the record that GOTO RECORD must to select.
> 
> After this issue disappares and all work normally.
> 
> I suspect that in some cases these means that the record is locked, 
> because the same record number after some minutes work.
> 
> For this reason i think that the record that give this issue can be locked.
> 
> Thanks
> Ferdinando
> 
> Il 24/07/19 21:31, Chip Scheide ha scritto:
>> Ferdinando,
>>  From the language reference:
>> Error -10503 - Record # is out of range (during GOTO RECORD, or data
>> file needs to be repaired). (see note 3)
>> 
>> Note 3:
>> The error -10503 Record # is out of range generally means that your
>> code (for example, the GOTO RECORD command) is attempting to access a
>> record that no longer exists (or has never existed). In certain more
>> unusual cases, this error may mean that the database needs repairing.
>> 
>> Repair the data file.
>> 
>> Chip
>> On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 21:22:35 +0200, stardata.info via 4D_Tech wrote:
>>> i all,
>>> 
>>> I use CREATE SELECTION FROM ARRAY([table];Array_Record_Number)
>>> command, in a 4D application in V13.2 on windows.
>>> Sometimes I have an error -10503, the record number is correct and
>>> the record exists. Are always a new records created from another
>>> process, is possible that the record that give -10503 is locked?
>>> I done several check but i cannot reproduce the conditions as happen
>>> in the customer installation.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Ferdinando
>>> 
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 Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 05:47:14 +
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
 
 Hi Koen
 
 Yes I have had an update today directly from Rob and all is well.
 This remains a very good plug-in purchase. Steve
 
 On 23/07/2019, 13:54, "4D_Tech on behalf of Koen Van Hooreweghe via
 4D_Tech" <4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of
 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
 
   Hi Steve,
IIRC I've had some issues with PDF Viewer plugin when
 moving to 4D v17 even on older macOS than Mojave. Rob Lavaux from
 pluggers.nl promptly fixed them. You should contact him to get your
 issues solved. I personally do prefer PDF Viewer instead of picture
 fields or web areas (on mac).
Rob might be on holiday right now, but normally he
 responds pretty quickly.
HTH
   Koen
 > Op 22 jul. 2019, om 21:48 heeft UKVetDerm via 4D_Tech
 <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> het volgende geschreven:
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   > Anyone having difficulties with Mac PDF Viewer plugin (2.01)
 with Mojave and v17 (r4 and r5) 64 bit. Can’t decide whether I have
 a bad form or there is a more systemic problem.
  
   Compass bvba
   Koen Van Hooreweghe
   Kloosterstraat 65
   9910 Aalter
   Belgium
   tel +32 495 511.653

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Re: REATE SELECTION FROM ARRAY

2019-07-24 Thread stardata.info via 4D_Tech

Hi Chip,

The database is ok.

Consider that this issue appares when in another process one user add 
the record that GOTO RECORD must to select.


After this issue disappares and all work normally.

I suspect that in some cases these means that the record is locked, 
because the same record number after some minutes work.


For this reason i think that the record that give this issue can be locked.

Thanks
Ferdinando

Il 24/07/19 21:31, Chip Scheide ha scritto:

Ferdinando,
 From the language reference:
Error -10503 - Record # is out of range (during GOTO RECORD, or data
file needs to be repaired). (see note 3)

Note 3:
The error -10503 Record # is out of range generally means that your
code (for example, the GOTO RECORD command) is attempting to access a
record that no longer exists (or has never existed). In certain more
unusual cases, this error may mean that the database needs repairing.

Repair the data file.

Chip
On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 21:22:35 +0200, stardata.info via 4D_Tech wrote:

i all,

I use CREATE SELECTION FROM ARRAY([table];Array_Record_Number)
command, in a 4D application in V13.2 on windows.
Sometimes I have an error -10503, the record number is correct and
the record exists. Are always a new records created from another
process, is possible that the record that give -10503 is locked?
I done several check but i cannot reproduce the conditions as happen
in the customer installation.

Thanks
Ferdinando

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 2. Re: 4D eMail Editor - full HTML support (Paul Dennis)
 3. Re: Static Pictures to Library Pictures (Tom Benedict)
 4. Re: Static Pictures to Library Pictures (Charles Miller)
 5. Re: Static Pictures to Library Pictures (Chip Scheide)
 6. Re: Static Pictures to Library Pictures (Charles Miller)


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From: UKVetDerm 
To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
Subject: Re: PDF Viewer
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi Koen

Yes I have had an update today directly from Rob and all is well.
This remains a very good plug-in purchase. Steve

On 23/07/2019, 13:54, "4D_Tech on behalf of Koen Van Hooreweghe via
4D_Tech" <4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of
4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

  Hi Steve,
   IIRC I've had some issues with PDF Viewer plugin when
moving to 4D v17 even on older macOS than Mojave. Rob Lavaux from
pluggers.nl promptly fixed them. You should contact him to get your
issues solved. I personally do prefer PDF Viewer instead of picture
fields or web areas (on mac).
   Rob might be on holiday right now, but normally he
responds pretty quickly.
   HTH
  Koen
> Op 22 jul. 2019, om 21:48 heeft UKVetDerm via 4D_Tech
<4d_tech@lists.4d.com> het volgende geschreven:
  >
  > Anyone having difficulties with Mac PDF Viewer plugin (2.01)
with Mojave and v17 (r4 and r5) 64 bit. Can’t decide whether I have
a bad form or there is a more systemic problem.
 
  Compass bvba
  Koen Van Hooreweghe
  Kloosterstraat 65
  9910 Aalter
  Belgium
  tel +32 495 511.653
   
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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 00:56:07 -0700 (MST)
From: Paul Dennis 
To: 4d_tech@lists.4d.com
Subject: Re: 4D eMail Editor - full HTML support
Message-ID: <1563954967911-0.p...@n5.nabble.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Chuck,
We have a template system for email replies so need to view in 4d and auto
generate email contents. We import emails via exchange/imap parse the mime
results all works ok HTMl is valid but write pro does not open or format
correctly at the moment. Thomas Maul confirmed the format needs to xhmtl.
Paul



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Re: 4D eMail Editor - full HTML support

2019-07-24 Thread rooftop99--- via 4D_Tech
Thanks to all who have offered suggestions.  Super helpful!  The biggest 
challenge I face is the spec calls for composing the email in Outlook first, 
then copying and pasting the final version into 4D with full preview and edit 
capability.  None of my tests have proved this is possible. (There is always 
something wacky in the transfer.)  However, your input has given me ideas on 
how we might take a different path to get to the same end result.  We’ll see...

Much appreciated!
Kirk

> On Jul 24, 2019, at 12:56 AM, Paul Dennis via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Chuck, 
> We have a template system for email replies so need to view in 4d and auto
> generate email contents. We import emails via exchange/imap parse the mime
> results all works ok HTMl is valid but write pro does not open or format
> correctly at the moment. Thomas Maul confirmed the format needs to xhmtl. 
> Paul
> 
> 
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Re: REATE SELECTION FROM ARRAY

2019-07-24 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
Ferdinando,
From the language reference:
Error -10503 - Record # is out of range (during GOTO RECORD, or data 
file needs to be repaired). (see note 3)

Note 3:
The error -10503 Record # is out of range generally means that your 
code (for example, the GOTO RECORD command) is attempting to access a 
record that no longer exists (or has never existed). In certain more 
unusual cases, this error may mean that the database needs repairing.

Repair the data file.

Chip
On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 21:22:35 +0200, stardata.info via 4D_Tech wrote:
> i all,
> 
> I use CREATE SELECTION FROM ARRAY([table];Array_Record_Number) 
> command, in a 4D application in V13.2 on windows.
> Sometimes I have an error -10503, the record number is correct and 
> the record exists. Are always a new records created from another 
> process, is possible that the record that give -10503 is locked?
> I done several check but i cannot reproduce the conditions as happen 
> in the customer installation.
> 
> Thanks
> Ferdinando
> 
> Il 24/07/19 21:00, 4d_tech-requ...@lists.4d.com ha scritto:
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>> 1. Re: PDF Viewer (UKVetDerm)
>> 2. Re: 4D eMail Editor - full HTML support (Paul Dennis)
>> 3. Re: Static Pictures to Library Pictures (Tom Benedict)
>> 4. Re: Static Pictures to Library Pictures (Charles Miller)
>> 5. Re: Static Pictures to Library Pictures (Chip Scheide)
>> 6. Re: Static Pictures to Library Pictures (Charles Miller)
>> 
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 05:47:14 +
>> From: UKVetDerm 
>> To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
>> Subject: Re: PDF Viewer
>> Message-ID: 
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> Hi Koen
>> 
>> Yes I have had an update today directly from Rob and all is well. 
>> This remains a very good plug-in purchase. Steve
>> 
>> On 23/07/2019, 13:54, "4D_Tech on behalf of Koen Van Hooreweghe via 
>> 4D_Tech" <4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of 
>> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  Hi Steve,
>>   IIRC I've had some issues with PDF Viewer plugin when 
>> moving to 4D v17 even on older macOS than Mojave. Rob Lavaux from 
>> pluggers.nl promptly fixed them. You should contact him to get your 
>> issues solved. I personally do prefer PDF Viewer instead of picture 
>> fields or web areas (on mac).
>>   Rob might be on holiday right now, but normally he 
>> responds pretty quickly.
>>   HTH
>>  Koen
>>> Op 22 jul. 2019, om 21:48 heeft UKVetDerm via 4D_Tech 
>> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> het volgende geschreven:
>>  >
>>  > Anyone having difficulties with Mac PDF Viewer plugin (2.01) 
>> with Mojave and v17 (r4 and r5) 64 bit. Can’t decide whether I have 
>> a bad form or there is a more systemic problem.
>> 
>>  Compass bvba
>>  Koen Van Hooreweghe
>>  Kloosterstraat 65
>>  9910 Aalter
>>  Belgium
>>  tel +32 495 511.653
>>   
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 00:56:07 -0700 (MST)
>> From: Paul Dennis 
>> To: 4d_tech@lists.4d.com
>> Subject: Re: 4D eMail Editor - full HTML support
>> Message-ID: <1563954967911-0.p...@n5.nabble.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> 
>> Chuck,
>> We have a template system for email replies so need to view in 4d and auto
>> generate email contents. We import emails via exchange/imap parse the mime
>> results all works ok HTMl is valid but write pro does not open or format
>> correctly at the moment. Thomas Maul confirmed the format needs to xhmtl.
>> Paul
>> 
>> 
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 09:11:30 -0700
>> From: Tom Benedict 
>> To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
>> Cc: Chuck Miller , Ben Sokal
>>  
>> Subject: Re: Static Pictures to Library Pictures
>> Message-ID: <7c0d5b3e-730d-4c71-a899-39e507ad8...@comcast.net>
>> Content-Type: 

REATE SELECTION FROM ARRAY

2019-07-24 Thread stardata.info via 4D_Tech

i all,

I use CREATE SELECTION FROM ARRAY([table];Array_Record_Number) command, 
in a 4D application in V13.2 on windows.
Sometimes I have an error -10503, the record number is correct and the 
record exists. Are always a new records created from another process, is 
possible that the record that give -10503 is locked?
I done several check but i cannot reproduce the conditions as happen in 
the customer installation.


Thanks
Ferdinando

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2. Re: 4D eMail Editor - full HTML support (Paul Dennis)
3. Re: Static Pictures to Library Pictures (Tom Benedict)
4. Re: Static Pictures to Library Pictures (Charles Miller)
5. Re: Static Pictures to Library Pictures (Chip Scheide)
6. Re: Static Pictures to Library Pictures (Charles Miller)


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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 05:47:14 +
From: UKVetDerm 
To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
Subject: Re: PDF Viewer
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Hi Koen

Yes I have had an update today directly from Rob and all is well. This remains 
a very good plug-in purchase. Steve

On 23/07/2019, 13:54, "4D_Tech on behalf of Koen Van Hooreweghe via 4D_Tech" 
<4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

 Hi Steve,
 
 IIRC I've had some issues with PDF Viewer plugin when moving to 4D v17 even on older macOS than Mojave. Rob Lavaux from pluggers.nl promptly fixed them. You should contact him to get your issues solved. I personally do prefer PDF Viewer instead of picture fields or web areas (on mac).
 
 Rob might be on holiday right now, but normally he responds pretty quickly.
 
 HTH

 Koen
  
 > Op 22 jul. 2019, om 21:48 heeft UKVetDerm via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> het volgende geschreven:

 >
 > Anyone having difficulties with Mac PDF Viewer plugin (2.01) with Mojave 
and v17 (r4 and r5) 64 bit. Can’t decide whether I have a bad form or there is a 
more systemic problem.
 
 
 
 

 Compass bvba
 Koen Van Hooreweghe
 Kloosterstraat 65
 9910 Aalter
 Belgium
 tel +32 495 511.653
 
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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 00:56:07 -0700 (MST)
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Chuck,
We have a template system for email replies so need to view in 4d and auto
generate email contents. We import emails via exchange/imap parse the mime
results all works ok HTMl is valid but write pro does not open or format
correctly at the moment. Thomas Maul confirmed the format needs to xhmtl.
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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 09:11:30 -0700
From: Tom Benedict 
To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
Cc: Chuck Miller , Ben Sokal

Subject: Re: Static Pictures to Library Pictures
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Chuck Miller responded to Ben Sokal’s post regarding moving Static Pictures to 
Library Pictures...


On Jun 4, 2019, at 17:06, Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

If you had gone to one of 4D’s road shows, JPR had a db that would do this for 
you. Perhaps you can request it from 4D. You still have to load each form but 
it is pretty seamless.

Regards

Chuck



On Jun 4, 2019, at 7:11 PM, Ben Sokal via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

We are finally moving to v17 and need to fix all our static PICT images. From 
previous posts and from the 4D knowledge base I understand how to convert 
library images by looping through them and running the conversion code. But the 
problem is we have over 1100+ static PICT images that aren't in the library. 
The MSC has identified these images but that's only somewhat helpful 

Re: Static Pictures to Library Pictures

2019-07-24 Thread Charles Miller via 4D_Tech
Not really you need more, as you have to convert old PICT pictures to
another format. You also have to deal with transparency issues

Regards

Chuck

On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 12:29 PM Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
<4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>
> well...
> I do not have the mentioned database but...
>
> SET PICTURE TO LIBRARY
> looks like the command you need
> you should be able to step through your forms in code, and locate the
> picture objects, then
> send them to the library
>
> Chip
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 09:11:30 -0700, Tom Benedict via 4D_Tech wrote:
> > Chuck Miller responded to Ben Sokal’s post regarding moving Static
> > Pictures to Library Pictures...
> >
> >> On Jun 4, 2019, at 17:06, Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech
> >> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> If you had gone to one of 4D’s road shows, JPR had a db that would
> >> do this for you. Perhaps you can request it from 4D. You still have
> >> to load each form but it is pretty seamless.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Chuck
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jun 4, 2019, at 7:11 PM, Ben Sokal via 4D_Tech
> >>> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> We are finally moving to v17 and need to fix all our static PICT
> >>> images. From previous posts and from the 4D knowledge base I
> >>> understand how to convert library images by looping through them
> >>> and running the conversion code. But the problem is we have over
> >>> 1100+ static PICT images that aren't in the library. The MSC has
> >>> identified these images but that's only somewhat helpful since that
> >>> still means we have to go to every object on hundreds of forms, and
> >>> change the properties from STATIC PICTURE to LIBRARY PICTURE. I can
> >>> spend week(s) doing this but...maybe someone has found a more
> >>> efficient way to handle bad static images that aren't in the
> >>> picture library?
> >>>
> >>> - Ben
> >
> >
> > Chuck, I’ve looked through the USB Drive that we received at this
> > year’s 4DWT and haven’t found the DB you mention. Perhaps it was part
> > of another DB with an unrelated name? Or maybe it was from a previous
> > 4DWT.
> >
> > Anyhow, if you have any further clues on this, it would be great. We
> > have about 800 static pictures on forms which need conversion.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tom Benedict
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Re: Static Pictures to Library Pictures

2019-07-24 Thread Charles Miller via 4D_Tech
It was from the previous road show. If you need it I can forward you a
copy as I have JPRs permission to do so, please notify me privately

Regards
Chuck

On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 12:11 PM Tom Benedict via 4D_Tech
<4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>
> Chuck Miller responded to Ben Sokal’s post regarding moving Static Pictures 
> to Library Pictures...
>
> > On Jun 4, 2019, at 17:06, Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > If you had gone to one of 4D’s road shows, JPR had a db that would do this 
> > for you. Perhaps you can request it from 4D. You still have to load each 
> > form but it is pretty seamless.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> >> On Jun 4, 2019, at 7:11 PM, Ben Sokal via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> We are finally moving to v17 and need to fix all our static PICT images. 
> >> From previous posts and from the 4D knowledge base I understand how to 
> >> convert library images by looping through them and running the conversion 
> >> code. But the problem is we have over 1100+ static PICT images that aren't 
> >> in the library. The MSC has identified these images but that's only 
> >> somewhat helpful since that still means we have to go to every object on 
> >> hundreds of forms, and change the properties from STATIC PICTURE to 
> >> LIBRARY PICTURE. I can spend week(s) doing this but...maybe someone has 
> >> found a more efficient way to handle bad static images that aren't in the 
> >> picture library?
> >>
> >> - Ben
>
>
> Chuck, I’ve looked through the USB Drive that we received at this year’s 4DWT 
> and haven’t found the DB you mention. Perhaps it was part of another DB with 
> an unrelated name? Or maybe it was from a previous 4DWT.
>
> Anyhow, if you have any further clues on this, it would be great. We have 
> about 800 static pictures on forms which need conversion.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom Benedict
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Re: Static Pictures to Library Pictures

2019-07-24 Thread Tom Benedict via 4D_Tech
Chuck Miller responded to Ben Sokal’s post regarding moving Static Pictures to 
Library Pictures...

> On Jun 4, 2019, at 17:06, Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> If you had gone to one of 4D’s road shows, JPR had a db that would do this 
> for you. Perhaps you can request it from 4D. You still have to load each form 
> but it is pretty seamless.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
>> On Jun 4, 2019, at 7:11 PM, Ben Sokal via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> We are finally moving to v17 and need to fix all our static PICT images. 
>> From previous posts and from the 4D knowledge base I understand how to 
>> convert library images by looping through them and running the conversion 
>> code. But the problem is we have over 1100+ static PICT images that aren't 
>> in the library. The MSC has identified these images but that's only somewhat 
>> helpful since that still means we have to go to every object on hundreds of 
>> forms, and change the properties from STATIC PICTURE to LIBRARY PICTURE. I 
>> can spend week(s) doing this but...maybe someone has found a more efficient 
>> way to handle bad static images that aren't in the picture library?
>> 
>> - Ben


Chuck, I’ve looked through the USB Drive that we received at this year’s 4DWT 
and haven’t found the DB you mention. Perhaps it was part of another DB with an 
unrelated name? Or maybe it was from a previous 4DWT.

Anyhow, if you have any further clues on this, it would be great. We have about 
800 static pictures on forms which need conversion.

Thanks,

Tom Benedict
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Re: 4D eMail Editor - full HTML support

2019-07-24 Thread Paul Dennis via 4D_Tech
Chuck, 
We have a template system for email replies so need to view in 4d and auto
generate email contents. We import emails via exchange/imap parse the mime
results all works ok HTMl is valid but write pro does not open or format
correctly at the moment. Thomas Maul confirmed the format needs to xhmtl. 
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