Re: [off-ish] v17 or 18 - Exported forms

[Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech]

if you have ever used React - it HAS to be simpler  :)

> Yes, forms are exported in JSON format. In project mode, CSS files 
> are used for some of the style information.
> 
> Converting a form into something usable by a web browser is certainly 
> possible, but it will not be a small or simple project.
> 
> John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> 
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>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 3:22 PM, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech 
>> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I have not done ANY work with v18, and only opened v17 once to 
>> quickly test an app's compatibility.
>> I understand that it is now possible to export forms in a manner 
>> which is compatible with a code repository/version control system.
>> 
>> If this is correct what is the format of the form data?
>> I assume it is text, and probably JSON... 
>> 
>> IF these 2 assumptions are true, is it (reasonable) to parse the son 
>> into html for direct rendering in a browser?
>> 
>> My end quest is to find some sort of functional GUI for form 
>> building that I can use for/with React/javascript without having to 
>> manually code very F-ing pixel placement.
> 
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Re: 4D Summit Virtual?

[Wayne Stewart via 4D_Tech]

Hi,

Of course the French won’t be there now.

Wayne

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> > We’re fine here in Chicago.  I’m still going.
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> If they have it, I will come…
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Re: 4D Summit Virtual?

[Neil Dennis via 4D_Tech]

> We’re fine here in Chicago.  I’m still going.

If they have it, I will come… 

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Re: [off-ish] v17 or 18 - Exported forms

[John DeSoi via 4D_Tech]

Yes, forms are exported in JSON format. In project mode, CSS files are used for 
some of the style information.

Converting a form into something usable by a web browser is certainly possible, 
but it will not be a small or simple project.

John DeSoi, Ph.D.


> On Mar 11, 2020, at 3:22 PM, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I have not done ANY work with v18, and only opened v17 once to quickly test 
> an app's compatibility.
> I understand that it is now possible to export forms in a manner which is 
> compatible with a code repository/version control system.
> 
> If this is correct what is the format of the form data?
> I assume it is text, and probably JSON... 
> 
> IF these 2 assumptions are true, is it (reasonable) to parse the son into 
> html for direct rendering in a browser?
> 
> My end quest is to find some sort of functional GUI for form building that I 
> can use for/with React/javascript without having to manually code very F-ing 
> pixel placement.

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Re: 4D Summit Virtual?

[Randy Kaempen via 4D_Tech]

We’re fine here in Chicago.  I’m still going.


Randy Kaempen
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> On Mar 11, 2020, at 8:36 PM, Tom Benedict via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Well, l'll gotta think the chances of 4D Summit happening in Chicago are 
> approaching nil now. Maybe there can be a virtual summit?
> 
> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/world/coronavirus-news.html
> 
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4D Summit Virtual?

[Tom Benedict via 4D_Tech]

Well, l'll gotta think the chances of 4D Summit happening in Chicago are 
approaching nil now. Maybe there can be a virtual summit?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/world/coronavirus-news.html

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Re: How can one REDRAW a SUBFORM that uses a OBJECT as its 'variable or expression'?

[Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech]

On Mar 11, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Chris Belanger wrote:

> Thank you, Lahav. Worked.
> 
> Still don’t understand why REDRAW( ) doesn’t get a (*; OBJECT NAME) syntax 
> though …

Create your own command called “REDRAW_OBJECT($object_o)” and pass in an object 
reference. That’s what I have done. Then when you read the code later you know 
exactly what is going on. Assigning an object to itself does not immediately 
tell me what is happening and why it is being done. 

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Re: Execute on client command - locking records

[Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech]

maybe a method called before the user prints is doing something like:
Read only([table])
  print routine

Chip
> Thank you so much, Chuck! Changing the order of the commands did the 
> trick! I will be sure to remember this next time.
> 
> My server process does not end, but I am not using any print jobs on 
> it, and, oddly, normal users use the exact same printing code in 
> processes that do not end for a long time and do not end up locking 
> the file with the report formats, either. So, still offbeat behavior, 
> but I can live with it.
> 
> JJ
> 
>> OnWed, 11 Mar 2020 14:06:30 -0400, Chuck Miller 
>> > > wrote:
>> 
>> Remember you must have code in the following sequence
>> 
>> Unload record
>> read only
>> 
>> The reason it may be unlocking on server is that the process ends
>> 
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[off-ish] v17 or 18 - Exported forms

[Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech]

I have not done ANY work with v18, and only opened v17 once to quickly test an 
app's compatibility.
I understand that it is now possible to export forms in a manner which is 
compatible with a code repository/version control system.

If this is correct what is the format of the form data?
I assume it is text, and probably JSON... 

IF these 2 assumptions are true, is it (reasonable) to parse the son into html 
for direct rendering in a browser?

My end quest is to find some sort of functional GUI for form building that I 
can use for/with React/javascript without having to manually code very F-ing 
pixel placement.

maybe... the forms generated by Wakanda?

any help pointing me in the right direction would be appreciated.

THANKS in advance
Chip


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Re: Execute on client command - locking records

[Janet Jonas via 4D_Tech]

Thank you so much, Chuck! Changing the order of the commands did the trick! I 
will be sure to remember this next time.

My server process does not end, but I am not using any print jobs on it, and, 
oddly, normal users use the exact same printing code in processes that do not 
end for a long time and do not end up locking the file with the report formats, 
either. So, still offbeat behavior, but I can live with it.

JJ

> OnWed, 11 Mar 2020 14:06:30 -0400, Chuck Miller 
> mailto:cjmil...@informed-solutions.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Remember you must have code in the following sequence
> 
> Unload record
> read only
> 
> The reason it may be unlocking on server is that the process ends
> 

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Re: Execute on client command - locking records

[Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech]

Remember you must have code in the following sequence

Unload record
read only

The reason it may be unlocking on server is that the process ends

Regards


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> On Mar 11, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Janet Jonas via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I also forgot to note the 4D version - it is 17.4.
> 
> If I try to do the editing on the client machine, it reports that the record 
> is locked by the " Registered Client" process, so I am certain the issue 
> is in Execute on client.
> 
> JJ

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Re: Execute on client command - locking records

[Janet Jonas via 4D_Tech]

I also forgot to note the 4D version - it is 17.4.

If I try to do the editing on the client machine, it reports that the record is 
locked by the " Registered Client" process, so I am certain the issue is in 
Execute on client.

JJ


> On Mar 11, 2020, at 8:25 AM, Spencer Hinsdale  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> any chance In Transaction?
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 8:20 AM, Janet Jonas via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I am running into an annoying bug with "Execute on client" functions. Even 
>> though I have put UNLOAD RECORD and READ ONLY commands into the methods that 
>> are executed there, the client process ke...

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Re: Execute on client command - locking records

[Spencer Hinsdale via 4D_Tech]

any chance In Transaction?

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 8:20 AM, Janet Jonas via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I am running into an annoying bug with "Execute on client" functions. Even 
> though I have put UNLOAD RECORD and READ ONLY commands into the methods that 
> are executed there, the client process ke...
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Execute on client command - locking records

[Janet Jonas via 4D_Tech]

I am running into an annoying bug with "Execute on client" functions. Even 
though I have put UNLOAD RECORD and READ ONLY commands into the methods that 
are executed there, the client process keeps records locked even if they are 
unloaded and set to read only. I am noticing this as I try to test new reports 
to print on a client that are saved into a report table. Consequently, I cannot 
tweak the report that I am using for printing because every report printed as a 
result of an "Execute on client" command locks that report permanently until I 
close the client machine. This is wasting a ton of my time. "Execute on server" 
will unload the records and does not seem to be doing this sort of 
unpredictable and unavoidable locking.

JJ

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