Re: Can't Disable Catalina Prompt "Do you want the Applicaiton "ApplicationName" to accept incoming network connections?

2020-08-21 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
developer certificates work similar to HTTPS certificates.

you can obtain a certificate that has Apple has its root authority.
you can also sign an app with a self-signed certificate and let the user add 
you to their local keychain.

2020/08/22 14:22、Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech 
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if I recall correctly you can not sign/noterize an application without paying 
apple $.

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Re: Can't Disable Catalina Prompt "Do you want the Applicaiton "ApplicationName" to accept incoming network connections?

2020-08-21 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
I am not 100% sure, but I think macOS GateKeeper (spctl) does not discriminate 
between apps that all share the app ID.

in other words, if a recently downloaded copy of 4D is caught by the system and 
deemed untrustworthy for any reason,
that indictment affects all installed copies of 4D on that computer including 
those that were preciously cleared.

you can search "reset spctl" for more information.


> 2020/08/18 15:27、Bernd Fröhlich via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>のメール:
> Any suggestions on what I need to do to get the prompt to stop popping 
> up is greatly appreciated.

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Re: Can't Disable Catalina Prompt "Do you want the Applicaiton "ApplicationName" to accept incoming network connections?

2020-08-21 Thread Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech
Ken,
generically speaking.
Apple has implemented a bunch of restriction in the OS.
these restrictions have been being implemented slowly, starting with 10.9
Apple's stated reason is safety and proaction for users, however, if I recall 
correctly you can not sign/noterize an application without paying apple $.

It may also be - I am not sure - that you have to continue to pay apple $ 
yearly to have your app continue to function

I did a quick search - I DID NOT READ these they appear to be documents 
regarding notarization

https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=12232019a
https://appletoolbox.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-app-notarization-in-macos-catalina/


good luck :)

Chip
> No I did not.  Why would that cause this problem I described below?
> 
> Thank you,
> Ken
> 
> 
> 
> On 08/18/20 10:05 AM, Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech wrote:
>> Before you built the app, probably before you compiled the app, did 
>> you disable the web server upon startup and the SQL server upon 
>> startup under Database Settings?
>> 
>>> On Aug 17, 2020, at 9:02 AM, Ken Eyring via 4D_Tech 
>>> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've compiled and built a standalone version of my 4D database 
>>> (with v17.3HF2), and every time that I run it on Mac OS X 10.15.5 
>>> (Catalina), I get a prompt "Do you want the Application 
>>> 'ApplicationName' to accept incoming network connections?"
>>> 
>>> I click "Yes" and the application opens.  I have also added the 
>>> name of my standalone application into the Security & Privacy 
>>> control panel as an exception to "allow incoming connections"... 
>>> but I still get the prompt every time I open the application.
>>> 
>>> Any suggestions on what I need to do to get the prompt to stop 
>>> popping up is greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> Ken
>>> 
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Re: Can't Disable Catalina Prompt "Do you want the Applicaiton "ApplicationName" to accept incoming network connections?

2020-08-21 Thread Ken Eyring via 4D_Tech

No I did not.  Why would that cause this problem I described below?

Thank you,
Ken



On 08/18/20 10:05 AM, Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech wrote:

Before you built the app, probably before you compiled the app, did you disable 
the web server upon startup and the SQL server upon startup under Database 
Settings?


On Aug 17, 2020, at 9:02 AM, Ken Eyring via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
wrote:

I've compiled and built a standalone version of my 4D database (with v17.3HF2), and every 
time that I run it on Mac OS X 10.15.5 (Catalina), I get a prompt "Do you want the 
Application 'ApplicationName' to accept incoming network connections?"

I click "Yes" and the application opens.  I have also added the name of my standalone 
application into the Security & Privacy control panel as an exception to "allow incoming 
connections"... but I still get the prompt every time I open the application.

Any suggestions on what I need to do to get the prompt to stop popping up is 
greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
Ken


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Re: Can't Disable Catalina Prompt "Do you want the Applicaiton "ApplicationName" to accept incoming network connections?

2020-08-21 Thread Ken Eyring via 4D_Tech
No, I put the built application into another folder.  Should that make a 
difference?


Thank you for your thoughts,
Ken




On 08/18/20 2:27 AM, Bernd Fröhlich via 4D_Tech wrote:

Ken Eyring:


I've compiled and built a standalone version of my 4D database (with
v17.3HF2), and every time that I run it on Mac OS X 10.15.5 (Catalina),
I get a prompt "Do you want the Application 'ApplicationName' to accept
incoming network connections?"

I click "Yes" and the application opens.  I have also added the name of
my standalone application into the Security & Privacy control panel as
an exception to "allow incoming connections"... but I still get the
prompt every time I open the application.

Any suggestions on what I need to do to get the prompt to stop popping
up is greatly appreciated.



Did you move the app into the applications-folder?
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Re: Can't Disable Catalina Prompt "Do you want the Applicaiton "ApplicationName" to accept incoming network connections?

2020-08-21 Thread Ken Eyring via 4D_Tech
I did not code sign and notarize the application.  I'm not familiar with 
how to do that.  Is there a list of instructions somewhere that explains 
how to do this?


But... even though I do want to distribute the built app to a customer, 
the problem occurred on my computer as well.


Thank you for your thoughts,
Ken




On 08/17/20 4:06 PM, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech wrote:

Did you code sign and notarise your application?

These are mandatory steps to distribute an app over the internet.

2020/08/18 1:02、Ken Eyring via 4D_Tech 
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Any suggestions on what I need to do to get the prompt to stop popping up is 
greatly appreciated.

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