Re: Version of v18 compatible with High Sierra (10.13) on OS X
Tim - 4D's "Software Requirements" for v18.3 LTS dated Sept 2020 says MacOS High Sierra (10.13) - MacOS Catalina (10.15) 4D's "Software Requirements" for v18.4 LTS dated Feb 2021 says MacOS Mojave (10.14) - MacOS Big Sur (11) Both say Latest release of version is required, such as 10.14.6 = Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2022 17:42:58 -0500 Subject: Version of v18 compatible with High Sierra (10.13) on OS X To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> From: Tim Daniels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> Reply-To: daniels...@gmail.com, 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> Cc: Tim Daniels Sender: "4D_Tech" <4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com> X-SpamScore: -50.8 I know this information MUST be available on the 4D site or the knowledge base. But I can't find it anywhere. I did find one place that said 18.5 is NOT compatible with High Sierra, but I can't figure out the highest version that IS compatible. Can anyone help? ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) New Forum: https://discuss.4D.com Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com ** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) New Forum: https://discuss.4D.com Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: 4D 2002r8
Good morning, Uist - If you still need it, you can download a copy of 4D 2003 installer here (both Windows and Mac). https://spaces.hightail.com/receive/l9cpuks2Gm Janie > On November 11, 2019 at 8:40 AM Uist Macdonald via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > forgot to say - Windows > > On 11/11/2019 13:40, Uist Macdonald via 4D_Tech wrote: > > Does anyone have a copy of 4D2003r8 installer? Or a link? > > > > Thanks > > > > Uist > > > -- > > Ceres Computer Consultants Ltd > > Registered Office: > South Scotstarvit > Chance Inn > Cupar > Fife KY15 5QJ > > +44 (0) 1334 828002 > > Registered in Scotland : SC107838 > > An ISO 9001 registered company. > > This message including any attachments, is intended and authorized for > the addressee only, and may contain privileged and/or confidential > information. If you are not the authorized addressee, you are not > authorized to either review or disseminate this message. Accordingly, > if you are not the intended and authorized recipient, please disregard > this message and notify the sender. If you are the authorized > addressee, you may use this for the purpose for which it was intended; a > direct, personal communication to you and your legal agents. You may > not distribute it to or publish it in any public forum without prior, > specific, written permission from the sender. > > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: v12 and El Capitan ?
Thank you, Chip. That is very helpful to know. I'm pretty sure that I remember others on this list who have mentioned that they have used v12 on 10.11. I would really like to hear from some of them too - Wonder, has anybody out there done any development with v12 on 10.11, and what kinds of issues did you run into? Thanks! > On September 25, 2019 at 10:01 AM Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > I mis spoke - > I'm sorry if this mis-lead anyone. > > I have run v12 on 10.11.9 - but only single user, and have not done any > development with it. > when I said I had/was using v11 - for some reason I conflated v11 and > v13. > > Chip > > On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 16:02:24 -0400, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech wrote: > > well... I am having no issues with v11 on El Capitan (10.11.6) > > I have no issue with development, and no issues with clients - > > however, my server is running 10.9.6, as I have to jump through hoops > > to update the server OS. > > > > Chip > > > > On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 15:50:41 -0400 (EDT), Janie Marlow via 4D_Tech > > wrote: > >> Occasionally I've read here that some of you have used 4D v12 on El > >> Capitan (OS 10.11.6). > >> > >> Software/hardware issues are tempting me to try that -- for a short > >> period of time at least -- > >> or is this something you would warn me away from? > >> > >> What kinds of issues can I expect to encounter? > >> > >> Thank you - > >> Janie Marlow > >> ** > >> 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > >> Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > >> Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > >> Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > >> ** > > --- > > Gas is for washing parts > > Alcohol is for drinkin' > > Nitromethane is for racing > > ** > > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > > ** > --- > Gas is for washing parts > Alcohol is for drinkin' > Nitromethane is for racing > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
v12 and El Capitan ?
Occasionally I've read here that some of you have used 4D v12 on El Capitan (OS 10.11.6). Software/hardware issues are tempting me to try that -- for a short period of time at least -- or is this something you would warn me away from? What kinds of issues can I expect to encounter? Thank you - Janie Marlow ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: unicode, blobs, and the web
Thank you for that explanation, Miyako! From: Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> Cc: Keisuke Miyako > 2019/08/29 12:31ÅAwebmaster namethatplant.net > ÇÃÉÅÅ[Éã: > > I still have a question. > The write-up for PROCESS HTML TAGS contains the warning, "It is now highly > inadvisable to store texts in BLOBs". > > I don't use the command "PROCESS HTML TAGS" but I have used BLOB variables in > several other places throughout my website. These don't contain any > troublemaker characters and they are working well. > > Do I need to convert them to text variables? storing text in BLOB is inadvisable for several reasons: BLOBs are not ref-counted and memory inefficient. there are copied when passed as a method argument, for example. BLOB to text conversion is costly, especially when the storage encoding is not UTF-8 (unicode to unicode conversion is quite efficient) there is not inherent size advantage compared to text. BLOB assumes that a byte is your atomic data unit, which is not true for Unicode you are denied access to essential text commands such as position, match regex, replace string, etc. but if things are working well, of course you don't need to convert them. ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
how to edit or delete form templates
How does one go about editing or deleting a form template? (in v2004 and/or v12) Thank you! Janie ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Log File does not correspond to data file after compacting
v2004, 10.6.8 Yesterday I compacted my databases' data file, something I had not done since v6 or before. Afterwards, when I opened the database, I was presented with a series of alerts: * The correct Log file for this data file could not be found. Try to find it. If you cannot find the Log File, make a full backup of the data before creating a Log File. * The Log File does not correspond to the data file. * A Log File is necessary to use this database. I experimented with renaming the data file, but I could not get past the alerts, so I ended up going back to using the uncompacted file. I've searched the docs, and I cannot find any special instructions regarding compacting a data file when using a Log File. It doesn't say anything about unclicking "Use Log File" before compacting, but is that what I should do? or should I backup immediately before compacting? Thank you - Janie ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Favorite tricks and keystrokes: Please take one and leave on
Another workaround might be to have both the method open and the Explorer open, with the method selected in the Explorer and the Explorer expanded to Preview? --- - the split pane feature Workaround = copy the code to a dummy method and have it open beside the real method. ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
