Re: How to view PDF's on Windows with 4D V16

2019-10-31 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech 
On Oct 31, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Robert McKeever wrote:

> I’ve tried PDF View, and the PDF’s fail to load. Works fine on the Mac.

This turns out to be a rather complicated and tricky area. 

First, just to get it out of the way, I’ve never had any trouble opening PDFs 
on macOS with Preview. It just works. Doesn’t complain that the PDF is damaged 
or that “an error exists”. Don’t matter if the PDF was created on macOS, on 
Windows with PDFCreator or on Windows with Microsoft Print to PDF (any 
version). No issues on macOS.

But recently I had to deal with a problem where a client reported they could 
not open a PDF generated by 4D that was emailed to them. I could open the PDF 
on macOS no problem. I could also open the PDF on Windows 10 using the default 
Edge web browser. But the PDF would not open using the most current version of 
Acrobat Reader DC. The PDF would open and part of it would display, but not all 
of it. You would receive this message:

“An error exists on this page. Acrobat may not display the page correctly. 
Please contact the person who created the PDF document to correct the problem.”

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wiz1a4ef04xucxg/Acrobat%20Reader%20DC%20Error.PNG?dl=1

The PDF was created by 4D v17.3 HF1, on Windows Server 2016 Datacenter version 
1607 build 14393.2097, and using the built in Microsoft Print to PDF printer 
driver. (All this version info turns out to be important.)

I could reproduce the problem on that machine, but on my development machine 
the PDF created would opened without error in Acrobat Reader DC. My machine was 
Windows 10 Home version 1809 build 17763.775. I had access to several machine 
with different version of Windows that were running the same 4D database, so I 
did a test to see what machines had the problem. 

Windows Server 2016 Datacenter version 1607 build 14393.2097 — error
Windows 10 Home version 1809 build 17763.775 — no problem
Windows 10 Pro version 1803 build 17134.523 — no problem
Windows 10 Home version 1809 build 17763.737 — no problem

I then switched from Microsoft Print to PDF driver on the problem machine and 
used PDF Creator 1.7.3. Problem disappeared. So that became the solution. 

I say all this to let other know a few things I’ve come to realize:

1. Just because a PDF opens on macOS is not a guarantee that it will open on 
Windows with Acrobat Reader DC

2. The default PDF viewer app on Windows 10 is the Edge web browser. It is more 
tolerant to “PDF issues” than Acrobat Reader DC

3. Some versions of Microsoft Print to PDF printer driver are — for lack of a 
better term — sh*tty. It can make PDFs that Acrobat Reader DC cannot open. (Do 
some Googling and you will see other have run into this too.) 

4. Some versions of Microsoft Print to PDF printer driver are better than 
others. And Microsoft does not provide a way to download Microsoft Print to PDF 
printer driver separately. It is part of a Windows install or update.

5. The exact same PDF created from the same 4D app on the same machine using 
PDF Creator is usually many times smaller — 8 times smaller in this case — than 
the one created by Microsoft Print to PDF. (PDF Creator PDF size = 42KB, 
Microsoft Print to PDF PDF size = 340KB)

So it’s not always what program you use to view a PDF that can be the problem. 
It is what PDF printer driver was used to create it, and which version of that 
driver that you use. 

Tim

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Re: How to view PDF's on Windows with 4D V16

2019-10-31 Thread Charles Miller via 4D_Tech 
I use open url on windows. It opens I web page or default reader depending
upon settings

Regards

Chuck

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How to view PDF's on Windows with 4D V16

2019-10-31 Thread Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech 
I’ve tried PDF View, and the PDF’s fail to load. Works fine on the Mac.

Any ideas?
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RE: PDF's

2017-04-18 Thread Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech 
> And where can I find the plug-in?

Miyako's Github page is here:
https://github.com/miyako/

You can search his repositories for the term PDF:
https://github.com/miyako?utf8=%E2%9C%93=repositories=pdf==

I think you are looking for this one:
https://github.com/miyako/4d-plugin-pdf-kit
^ It is described as "Perform basic PDF manipulation on OS X"

-Tim





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Re: PDF's

2017-04-18 Thread Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech 
And where can I find the plug-in?

> On Apr 16, 2017, at 12:33 PM, Mitchell Shiller via 4D_Tech 
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
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> You can use Miyako’s pdf plugin to do basic pdf manipulation.
> 
> For instance we receive our faxes as pdf’s from an e-fax service.
> In our application, we create thumbnails of the various pages. The staff can 
> then chose to delete pages (i.e. the cover page) or group pages together as a 
> single pdf.
> All done with his plugin at the the wonderful price of free.
> 
> Mitch
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Re: PDF's

2017-04-16 Thread Mitchell Shiller via 4D_Tech 
You can use Miyako’s pdf plugin to do basic pdf manipulation.

For instance we receive our faxes as pdf’s from an e-fax service.
In our application, we create thumbnails of the various pages. The staff can 
then chose to delete pages (i.e. the cover page) or group pages together as a 
single pdf.
All done with his plugin at the the wonderful price of free.

Mitch



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PDF's

2017-04-15 Thread Mehboob Alam via 4D_Tech 
Rob Laveaux has some powerful plugins to do this. Otherwise, you will have to 
script some external tools.

Mehboob Alam

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a, pre, code, a:link, body { word-wrap: break-word !important; }

Platform - Mac

4D V15.4

The client will scan 10 pages or so into a single pdf. They want to be able to 
open the PDF, and attach one or more pages of the PDF into a 4D Write document 
(or multiple documents). So, how do I extract a given PDF page into an image?

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