Re: 4D 15.5 on MacOs High Sierra 10.13.4

2018-04-16 Thread Two Way Communications via 4D_Tech 
Guys,

I’ve found the cause.

Recently, I have upgraded MacOs to 10.13.4. Until then, the speed was fine.

I googled on ‘issues with MacOs 10.13.4’, and among others, I read that 
CleanMyMac 3 was likely to be the cause.
I have uninstalled it and now the issues are gone.

Damn CleanMyMac3 ! I feel foolish now having fallen in that trap!



Regards,

Rudy Mortier
Two Way Communications bvba 



> On 17 Apr 2018, at 00:11, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I’ve seen the phenomenon with applications other than 4D, which means it is 
> not caused by 4D specific pref. files, but rather, files managed by the OS. 
> at least we know that they are under the user’s directory, but otherwise the 
> files could be anywhere.
> 
> 
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Re: 4D 15.5 on MacOs High Sierra 10.13.4

2018-04-16 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech 
I’ve seen the phenomenon with applications other than 4D, which means it is not 
caused by 4D specific pref. files, but rather, files managed by the OS. at 
least we know that they are under the user’s directory, but otherwise the files 
could be anywhere.



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Re: 4D 15.5 on MacOs High Sierra 10.13.4

2018-04-16 Thread Two Way Communications via 4D_Tech 
Thanks Chuck, thanks Keisuke.

I switched to another user on my machine, but had to copy the entire database 
folder. Otherwise I got permission errors while trying to open the journal 
file???

It was effectively running much faster.

Is there a way to fix my own account?


Regards,

Rudy Mortier
Two Way Communications bvba 



> On 16 Apr 2018, at 22:19, Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
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> Try creating another account on the same machine and see what happens. You 
> could also delete all 4D preferences and see if that changes the situation
> 
> Chuck
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>> On Apr 16, 2018, at 3:30 PM, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech 
>> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>> 
>> that could be a broken configuration issue,
>> which could also happen with apps other than 4D.
>> 
>> try a another mac with the same setup, or if that's not an option,
>> try with a newly created account on the same computer.
>> 
>> you might find that the slowness is actually not reproducible elsewhere.
>> 
>> 2018/04/17 0:34、Two Way Communications via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com 
>> > >> のメール：
>> 
>> Has anyone experienced extreme sluggishness (including beach ball) when 
>> opening form properties or object properties?
>> 
>> For every change I make in the properties, I have to wait at least 3 seconds 
>> before 4D responds, occasionally showing the beach ball.
>> 
>> Making changes takes forever this way…
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Re: 4D 15.5 on MacOs High Sierra 10.13.4

2018-04-16 Thread Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech 
Try creating another account on the same machine and see what happens. You 
could also delete all 4D preferences and see if that changes the situation

Chuck

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> On Apr 16, 2018, at 3:30 PM, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech 
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> 
> that could be a broken configuration issue,
> which could also happen with apps other than 4D.
> 
> try a another mac with the same setup, or if that's not an option,
> try with a newly created account on the same computer.
> 
> you might find that the slowness is actually not reproducible elsewhere.
> 
> 2018/04/17 0:34、Two Way Communications via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com 
>  >> のメール：
> 
> Has anyone experienced extreme sluggishness (including beach ball) when 
> opening form properties or object properties?
> 
> For every change I make in the properties, I have to wait at least 3 seconds 
> before 4D responds, occasionally showing the beach ball.
> 
> Making changes takes forever this way…

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Re: 4D 15.5 on MacOs High Sierra 10.13.4

2018-04-16 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech 
that could be a broken configuration issue,
which could also happen with apps other than 4D.

try a another mac with the same setup, or if that's not an option,
try with a newly created account on the same computer.

you might find that the slowness is actually not reproducible elsewhere.

2018/04/17 0:34、Two Way Communications via 4D_Tech 
<4d_tech@lists.4d.com> のメール：

Has anyone experienced extreme sluggishness (including beach ball) when opening 
form properties or object properties?

For every change I make in the properties, I have to wait at least 3 seconds 
before 4D responds, occasionally showing the beach ball.

Making changes takes forever this way…


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4D 15.5 on MacOs High Sierra 10.13.4

2018-04-16 Thread Two Way Communications via 4D_Tech 
Has anyone experienced extreme sluggishness (including beach ball) when opening 
form properties or object properties?

For every change I make in the properties, I have to wait at least 3 seconds 
before 4D responds, occasionally showing the beach ball.

Making changes takes forever this way…


Regards,

Rudy Mortier
Two Way Communications bvba 


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