I think this problem is finally solved. As I'd always suspected, it was likely 
related to power management features.

As previously noted, running the command ...

$ pmset -g

... suggested that all settings were as they should be. Mainly power nap was 
turned off globally.

About a week ago someone asked another question here about 'app nap'. I'd 
previously checked 4D.app using Get Info after the Sierra > High Sierra upgrade 
and verified it was set as needed.

I ran the command to check app nap on 4D.app and there was no value returned. 
Hmmm?
I then ran the command to enable app nap on 4D.app then check it again. It was 
now set.

I also toggled all of the machine's energy saver settings. I recorded them. 
Changed them. Saved them. Then reset them. This may have not helped, but I 
don't see how it could have hurt.

We've run for almost a week now.

-- Brad


________________________________________
From: Perkins, Bradley D
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 9:59 AM
To: 4d_tech@lists.4d.com
Subject: Re: 4D Backup causes 4D Remote to hang (15.4)

Still having problems. Based on various email notifications, I can see
that the scripts that under past OS versions would reliably restart 4D are
trying to do so, but w/o success. I don't know why they fail, but can see
they are repeatedly trying. That continues until I remotely access the
Mac. At that point the next scheduled run of the script succeeds.

If I try to run these scripts via SSH they don't succeed. I have to launch
Apple Remote Desktop.
I also have a password protected PHP app running on that server that
allows me to kill a hung 4D from my phone. That doesn't work during these
problem periods either.

It seems like this points to a power management issue, but pmset -g would
indicate that everything is set as it should be. I did not mention it
earlier, but this Mac Mini sits in a rack and hooked to a KVM. It normally
doesn't have a display.

Are any others running v15.4 (or v15.5) 4D Remote on Mac OS High Sierra
successfully? Or, if you are running it and having problems, what are they?

Thanks,

Brad Perkins



On 11/15/17, 5:13 PM, "Perkins, Bradley D" <bperk...@lanl.gov> wrote:

>Thanks Chuck,
>
>I've reset the backup by deleting preferences. I also modified my scripts
>to use kill -9 instead of killall. Hopefully this will improve the
>situation. I should know overnight.
>
>-- Brad Perkins
>
>On 11/14/17, 1:00 PM, "4D_Tech on behalf of 4d_tech-requ...@lists.4d.com"
><4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of 4d_tech-requ...@lists.4d.com>
>wrote:
>
>    I would quit 4D server, delete preferences and recreate using menu
>commands
>    re backup. Perhaps that us trhe problem. Also check where the backup
>is
>    going to if a HD try a different location
>
>    Regards and hiope this helps
>    Chuck
>

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