Re: Best "back to school" pathway for upgraders

2020-02-23 Thread Peter Jakobsson via 4D_Tech
Thanks Tom

All my PICTS were indeed converted “years ago”.

Peter

> On 21 Feb 2020, at 17:55, Tom Benedict via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
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> I agree with Randy, unless you converted all your PICTs years ago when 4D 
> first started to warn us about them. If you haven’t converted them you’ll 
> need to do that in 32bit mode.

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Re: Best "back to school" pathway for upgraders

2020-02-21 Thread Tom Benedict via 4D_Tech
I agree with Randy, unless you converted all your PICTs years ago when 4D first 
started to warn us about them. If you haven’t converted them you’ll need to do 
that in 32bit mode.

Tom

> On Feb 21, 2020, at 08:27, Randy Kaempen via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
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> Peter,
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2020, at 9:58 AM, Peter Jakobsson via 4D_Tech 
>> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I’m collating resources for informing myself on new features and language 
>> for moving from v15 to v18. Plan to do it in one leap over a year at least. 
>> I don’t really see the point in hanging around in an intermediate version.
> 
> Do you have any images in the old PICT format?  I have done a lot of these 
> updates and all my databases had objects on forms with PICT images.  I used 
> JPR’s tool in the 32-bit version of v16 to upgrade them before moving to the 
> 64-bit version.  If you don’t stop there, you won’t have access to that tool.
> 
> I would recommend a stop at v16.
> 
> 
> Randy Kaempen
> Intellex Corporation
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Re: Best "back to school" pathway for upgraders

2020-02-21 Thread Randy Kaempen via 4D_Tech
Peter,

> On Feb 21, 2020, at 9:58 AM, Peter Jakobsson via 4D_Tech 
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> 
> I’m collating resources for informing myself on new features and language for 
> moving from v15 to v18. Plan to do it in one leap over a year at least. I 
> don’t really see the point in hanging around in an intermediate version.

Do you have any images in the old PICT format?  I have done a lot of these 
updates and all my databases had objects on forms with PICT images.  I used 
JPR’s tool in the 32-bit version of v16 to upgrade them before moving to the 
64-bit version.  If you don’t stop there, you won’t have access to that tool.

I would recommend a stop at v16.


Randy Kaempen
Intellex Corporation
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Best "back to school" pathway for upgraders

2020-02-21 Thread Peter Jakobsson via 4D_Tech
Hi

I’m collating resources for informing myself on new features and language for 
moving from v15 to v18. Plan to do it in one leap over a year at least. I don’t 
really see the point in hanging around in an intermediate version.

There is so much new stuff it’s getting overwhelming because now, on top of all 
the language revolution we have things like Git support, plugin 
specialisations, interoperability technologies etc. Where to start ?

Best place to learn ORDA for example, is it the v17/18 language reference ? 
That’s where I’d usually start (or in fact with the “upgrade manual” but v18 
doesn’t have one). Objects - “New Object” command, object notation, new way of 
using forms (with object instead of global variables).

What’s the difference between a “Database” and a “Database Project” ? Is that 
"Design Reference" material ? I haven’t read a 4D Design Reference since the 
80’s. Has anybody been through all this stuff from to finish ? What would be 
the recommended starting point ?

Waiting on new technologies from 4D is like waiting on a bus. None come for 
eons and then they all arrive at once. I’m trying not to get run over !

Peter

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