Re: Can't Access Design Mode in 6.0.6
Steve, > On Apr 7, 2020, at 2:25 PM, UKVetDerm via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Datacheck - that takes me back. Do we have a much better 4D now I wonder? We do. There was a time when it seemed that people like Paul Carnine knew a lot more about the details of the data file and structure than 4D did. DataCheck was definitely superior to the 4D Tools of the time. Remember also that back then, if you had to run Recover by Tags, you knew you were going to lose a significant portion of your data. The tags just weren’t reliable. Now, touching the same piece of wood, the MSC is very good at diagnosing and fixing problems. > I have not (touching a very big piece of wood) had a Datacheck moment for a > long time, although cheap storage makes very regular backups much easier. Agreed. Also, having the journals makes recovering from data problems much easier. > Sorry to hijack your post! No problem. Randy Kaempen Intellex Corporation ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Can't Access Design Mode in 6.0.6
Datacheck - that takes me back. Do we have a much better 4D now I wonder? I have not (touching a very big piece of wood) had a Datacheck moment for a long time, although cheap storage makes very regular backups much easier. Sorry to hijack your post! Steve On 07/04/2020, 20:11, "4D_Tech on behalf of Randy Kaempen via 4D_Tech" <4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: Chuck, > On Apr 7, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > Can you upgrade to a newer version, Let’s say 11 and see what happens I opened it with 6.7.4 and I was able to get in to the structure. Weird. I was able to see what the structure looks like and what I’ll have to watch for as I run it through the later versions. I really only need to open it in 6.0.6 to run Tools to make sure the data is in good shape. I actually still have my licensed copy of DataCheck, so I’ve got a great tool for fixing and data problems.:-) Thanks for the suggestion. Randy Kaempen Intellex Corporation ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com ** ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Can't Access Design Mode in 6.0.6
Chuck, > On Apr 7, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Can you upgrade to a newer version, Let’s say 11 and see what happens I opened it with 6.7.4 and I was able to get in to the structure. Weird. I was able to see what the structure looks like and what I’ll have to watch for as I run it through the later versions. I really only need to open it in 6.0.6 to run Tools to make sure the data is in good shape. I actually still have my licensed copy of DataCheck, so I’ve got a great tool for fixing and data problems.:-) Thanks for the suggestion. Randy Kaempen Intellex Corporation ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Can't Access Design Mode in 6.0.6
Hi Randy, Just a wild guess, but could it be possible the current user is being changed in the code? Dunno if CHANGE CURRENT USER already existed in v6.0.6. I saw you can run quick report, can you check if Current user is still the Designer? HTH Koen > Op 7 apr. 2020, om 18:13 heeft Randy Kaempen via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> het volgende geschreven: > > I've got an old machine to run it on. I have the database structure and the > developer password. However, I can't get into design mode. I am logged in > as Designer. There is an option on their menu that says User Mode. However, > when I select it, the database quits. If I do option-f, the database quits. > If I do option-F4, the database quits. I have managed to run a procedure and > interrupt it with option-click. I get the dialog with Trace and Edit on it. > The buttons are enabled. However, when I click either one, the database quits. > > I thought it might be an authorization issue. I have license codes from back > then, but I don’t see a place to enter them. Also, I created a brand-new > database and it let me access design mode and see the structure. > > I can't figure out why it won't let me into design mode. Any ideas? > Compass bvba Koen Van Hooreweghe Kloosterstraat 65 9910 Aalter Belgium tel +32 495 511.653 ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Can't Access Design Mode in 6.0.6
Chuck, > On Apr 7, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Can you upgrade to a newer version, Let’s say 11 and see what happens I can and will, but the prevailing logic for this kind of update was to move to new versions in small steps, not one big jump. I did this before for a different client and I would run Tools on the structure and data at each version before going to the next one. I don’t want to risk losing data. The reason to access the structure is so that I can tell the client what kind of changes will be required as we move along. However, it’s a good point. I’ll see about jumping a few versions and see if I can get in, just to take a look. Thanks. Randy Kaempen Intellex Corporation ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Can't Access Design Mode in 6.0.6
Chuck, > On Apr 7, 2020, at 11:40 AM, Charles Miller via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > compiled? No, the client said this is the file _without_ the running man icon.:-) Also, I ran a report and triggered the trace dialog. Both Edit and Trace were enabled, which they wouldn’t be for a compiled database. Randy Kaempen Intellex Corporation ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Can't Access Design Mode in 6.0.6
Can you upgrade to a newer version, Let’s say 11 and see what happens Regards Chuck Chuck Miller Voice: (617) 739-0306 Informed Solutions, Inc. Fax: (617) 232-1064 mailto:cjmillerinformed-solutions.com Brookline, MA 02446 USA Registered 4D Developer Providers of 4D and Sybase connectivity http://www.informed-solutions.com This message and any attached documents contain information which may be confidential, subject to privilege or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. These materials are intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of this transmission, you are hereby notified that any distribution, disclosure, printing, copying, storage, modification or the taking of any action in reliance upon this transmission is strictly prohibited. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended recipient shall not compromise or waive such confidentiality, privilege or exemption from disclosure as to this communication. > On Apr 7, 2020, at 12:13 PM, Randy Kaempen via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > This is for one you fellow old-time experts. > > I have a new client, who is trying to convert from 6.0.6 to v17. Yes, that's > right, 6.0.6. Believe it or not, I did one from this old a version a year > ago. > > I've got an old machine to run it on. I have the database structure and the > developer password. However, I can't get into design mode. I am logged in > as Designer. There is an option on their menu that says User Mode. However, > when I select it, the database quits. If I do option-f, the database quits. > If I do option-F4, the database quits. I have managed to run a procedure and > interrupt it with option-click. I get the dialog with Trace and Edit on it. > The buttons are enabled. However, when I click either one, the database > quits. > > I thought it might be an authorization issue. I have license codes from back > then, but I don’t see a place to enter them. Also, I created a brand-new > database and it let me access design mode and see the structure. > > I can't figure out why it won't let me into design mode. Any ideas? ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Re: Can't Access Design Mode in 6.0.6
Hi All, compiled? On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 12:14 PM Randy Kaempen via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > This is for one you fellow old-time experts. > > I have a new client, who is trying to convert from 6.0.6 to v17. Yes, that's > right, 6.0.6. Believe it or not, I did one from this old a version a year > ago. > > I've got an old machine to run it on. I have the database structure and the > developer password. However, I can't get into design mode. I am logged in > as Designer. There is an option on their menu that says User Mode. However, > when I select it, the database quits. If I do option-f, the database quits. > If I do option-F4, the database quits. I have managed to run a procedure and > interrupt it with option-click. I get the dialog with Trace and Edit on it. > The buttons are enabled. However, when I click either one, the database > quits. > > I thought it might be an authorization issue. I have license codes from back > then, but I don’t see a place to enter them. Also, I created a brand-new > database and it let me access design mode and see the structure. > > I can't figure out why it won't let me into design mode. Any ideas? > > Thanks. > > > Randy Kaempen > Intellex Corporation > > ** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com > ** -- - Chuck Miller Voice: (617) 739-0306 Fax: (617) 232-1064 Informed Solutions, Inc. Brookline, MA 02446 USA Registered 4D Developer Providers of 4D, Sybase & SQL Server connectivity https://www.informed-solutions.com - This message and any attached documents contain information which may be confidential, subject to privilege or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. These materials are intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of this transmission, you are hereby notified that any distribution, disclosure, printing, copying, storage, modification or the taking of any action in reliance upon this transmission is strictly prohibited. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended recipient shall not compromise or waive such confidentiality, privilege or exemption from disclosure as to this communication. ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
Can't Access Design Mode in 6.0.6
This is for one you fellow old-time experts. I have a new client, who is trying to convert from 6.0.6 to v17. Yes, that's right, 6.0.6. Believe it or not, I did one from this old a version a year ago. I've got an old machine to run it on. I have the database structure and the developer password. However, I can't get into design mode. I am logged in as Designer. There is an option on their menu that says User Mode. However, when I select it, the database quits. If I do option-f, the database quits. If I do option-F4, the database quits. I have managed to run a procedure and interrupt it with option-click. I get the dialog with Trace and Edit on it. The buttons are enabled. However, when I click either one, the database quits. I thought it might be an authorization issue. I have license codes from back then, but I don’t see a place to enter them. Also, I created a brand-new database and it let me access design mode and see the structure. I can't figure out why it won't let me into design mode. Any ideas? Thanks. Randy Kaempen Intellex Corporation ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **
