Re: Circumflex strangeness with v15 on OS X 10.10.5

2017-05-12 Thread Milan Adamov via 4D_Tech

> On 12May, 2017, at 08:44, Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> The users are based in Europe and have keyboards which make entering these 
> accented characters quite easy. There is one key for the “^” and the system 
> waits for a vowel over which it will be placed. With this bug, the user winds 
> up with the “^” on the vowel as well as stand-alone

Hi Paul,

this is kind of Mac thing ffrom the beginning more than 30 years ago, but 
usually circumflex only shouldn't trigger that behaviour, only in combination 
with Option key. It is the same with some other characters, for example using 
US keyboard layout you can type Option-n folowed by n and get ñ without 
activating Spanish keyboard to get this Spanish character.

Regards,

Milan

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Re: Circumflex strangeness with v15 on OS X 10.10.5

2017-05-12 Thread Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech
Hi Miyako,

The users are based in Europe and have keyboards which make entering these 
accented characters quite easy. There is one key for the “^” and the system 
waits for a vowel over which it will be placed. With this bug, the user winds 
up with the “^” on the vowel as well as stand-alone.

I have progressed somewhat. We use entry filters to avoid users cutting and 
pasting garbage such as control characters from outside sources. If we remove 
the entry filter it works normally. We haven’t been able to construct a filter 
which does what we want. We can’t use an empty filter either, so we have a 
database with thousands of fields using the filter that causes the problem :-(


Paul
> Le 12 mai 2017 à 02:20, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a 
> écrit :
> 
> how is the user typing the circumflex character?
> assuming the U.S. keyboard layout is used,
> option+I would enter a combining circumflex with yellow background.
> following it with another letter would yield the accented character.
> but other keyboard layouts (U.S. extended, or FR, for example) have other 
> conventions.
> 
> there is also the feature that allows the user to long-press a key to enter 
> accented characters.
> 
> last but not least, it the problem restricted to 4D or any application?
> 
>> 2017/05/11 22:54、Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> のメール:
>> 
>> We have noticed an annoying issue with the circumflex character (^) on OS X 
>> 10.10.5.
>> 
>> If a user wants to write the word capôter, the circumflex “^" is typed 
>> before typing the “o". The system then placed the circumflex on top of the o 
>> to produce “ô".
>> 
>> What we are seeing is cap^ôter instead of capôter because somehow the user 
>> gets two circumflexes even though only one was typed (wish ATMs worked that 
>> way).
>> 
>> Has anyone else seen this? Perhaps there’s a compatibility setting I’m 
>> missing somewhere?
>> 
>> It seems to work fine on OSX 10.12x
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Circumflex strangeness with v15 on OS X 10.10.5

2017-05-11 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
how is the user typing the circumflex character?
assuming the U.S. keyboard layout is used,
option+I would enter a combining circumflex with yellow background.
following it with another letter would yield the accented character.
but other keyboard layouts (U.S. extended, or FR, for example) have other 
conventions.

there is also the feature that allows the user to long-press a key to enter 
accented characters.

last but not least, it the problem restricted to 4D or any application?

> 2017/05/11 22:54、Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> のメール:
>
> We have noticed an annoying issue with the circumflex character (^) on OS X 
> 10.10.5.
>
> If a user wants to write the word capôter, the circumflex “^" is typed before 
> typing the “o". The system then placed the circumflex on top of the o to 
> produce “ô".
>
> What we are seeing is cap^ôter instead of capôter because somehow the user 
> gets two circumflexes even though only one was typed (wish ATMs worked that 
> way).
>
> Has anyone else seen this? Perhaps there’s a compatibility setting I’m 
> missing somewhere?
>
> It seems to work fine on OSX 10.12x



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Circumflex strangeness with v15 on OS X 10.10.5

2017-05-11 Thread Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech
Hi everyone,

We have noticed an annoying issue with the circumflex character (^) on OS X 
10.10.5. 

If a user wants to write the word capôter, the circumflex “^" is typed before 
typing the “o". The system then placed the circumflex on top of the o to 
produce “ô". 

What we are seeing is cap^ôter instead of capôter because somehow the user gets 
two circumflexes even though only one was typed (wish ATMs worked that way).

Has anyone else seen this? Perhaps there’s a compatibility setting I’m missing 
somewhere?

It seems to work fine on OSX 10.12x


Cheers,


Paul

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