Re: HTTP Request and x-www-form-urlencoded

[Tom Benedict via 4D_Tech]

Bruno writes:

>If you send JSON data, you probably have to send the right content type 
>(content type "application/json”).
>Was Postman successful to send a json request ?
>Or did it only work with x-www-form-urlencoded (content type 
>"application/x-www-form-urlencoded").

Postman only works with x-www-form-urlencoded. Now that I understand a bit more 
about how all of this works, I think this explains everything.

>In the AWS component available here
>   https://github.com/blegay/aws_component
>
>There is a method
>   AWS__arrToCanonicalQueryString
>
>Which takes two text array pointers (key and values) and output a url encoded 
>query string.

That’s sounds like what I’m looking for. It can help me make scaleable, 
reusable code.

Many thanks,

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Re: HTTP Request and x-www-form-urlencoded

[Bruno LEGAY via 4D_Tech]

Hi,

Can you post the code you are using ?

If you send JSON data, you probably have to send the right content type 
(content type "application/json").

> 
> I’ve successfully tested the REST service using Postman and I can copy the 
> encoded URL from Postman and send it successfully from 4D HTTP Request 
> instead or JSON. So I just need to build the encoded URL on the 4D side. It’s 
> tedious to do though, and I think it’s convenient to use an object on the 4D 
> side to manage the key value pairs. So I’m wondering is there an ‘easy’ way 
> to convert a JSON object into an encoded URL?

Was Postman successful to send a json request ?
Or did it only work with x-www-form-urlencoded (content type 
"application/x-www-form-urlencoded").

In the AWS component available here
https://github.com/blegay/aws_component

There is a method
AWS__arrToCanonicalQueryString

Which takes two text array pointers (key and values) and output a url encoded 
query string.

Bruno LEGAY
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Re: HTTP Request and x-www-form-urlencoded

[Tom Benedict via 4D_Tech]

Thanks again Narinder.

Indeed, XSLT is going away. 

I think what I’ve put together with Miyako’s encoding component and some 
hard-coded concatenation will be sufficient for this one time, non-scalable, 
semi-hack. ;) If I need to do it more than once I’ll look at doing it the 
“right” way.

I appreciate all the suggestions you’ve offered. 

Tom Benedict


> On Oct 12, 2019, at 15:50, Narinder Chandi via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Tom,
> 
> This may have been mentioned already, but I just remembered that it is 
> possible to do this encoding natively with 4D's XML and XSLT Transformation 
> commands and I wrote a pair of encode/decode functions several years ago that 
> worked no problem.
> 
> However, XSLT has been deprecated in v17. So, unless you are using a prior 
> version of 4D (and I get the impression that you are not as you mention ORDA 
> in a previous post) then  you are out of luck. However, if you want the 
> encode/decoded functions let me know and I can send them to privately.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Narinder Chandi,
> ToolBox Systems Ltd.
> 
> I am available for new consulting opportunities…
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> To: 4D Tech Mailing List <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> Cc: Narinder Chandi <4dtechmailingl...@toolbox.uk.com>
> Subject: Re: HTTP Request and x-www-form-urlencoded
> 
>Tom,
> 
>> https://github.com/miyako/4d-tips-encode-uri
>> I found that component earlier today and it does help a bit. I was looking 
>> for a way to fill an object with key value pairs which HTTP Request would 
>> then convert into the right content-type.
> 
>Unfortunately HTTP Request is sadly still lacking this capability and, to 
> the best of my knowledge, it is not a part of the HTTP client command set or 
> the Internet Command set which is rather a glaring oversight IMO. It is 
> pretty standard stuff as far as HTTP requests go. 4D really need to address 
> this.
> 
>You could perhaps create your own wrapper around HTTP Request and combine 
> that with Miyako's code if that might solve your problem?
> 
>Regards,
> 
>Narinder Chandi,
>ToolBox Systems Ltd.
> 
>I am available for new consulting opportunities…
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Re: HTTP Request and x-www-form-urlencoded

[Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech]

http://forums.4d.fr/Post/FR/18982177/1/18982372#18982372

or

https://github.com/miyako/4d-plugin-curl-v2
https://github.com/miyako/4d-plugin-houdini

in 4D code it would be something like:

C_TEXT:C284($1;$0;$escaped)

C_LONGINT:C283($i)
C_BOOLEAN:C305($shouldEscape)
C_BLOB:C604($data)

For ($i;1;Length:C16($1))
$char:=Substring:C12($1;$i;1)
$code:=Character code:C91($char)
$shouldEscape:=False:C215
Case of
: ($code=45)
: ($code=46)
: ($code>47) & ($code<58)
: ($code>63) & ($code<91)
: ($code=95)
: ($code>96) & ($code<123)
: ($code=126)
Else
$shouldEscape:=True:C214
End case
If ($shouldEscape)
CONVERT FROM TEXT:C1011($char;"utf-8";$data)
For ($j;0;BLOB size:C605($data)-1)
$hex:=String:C10($data{$j};"&x")
$escaped:=$escaped+"%"+Substring:C12($hex;Length:C16($hex)-1)
End for
Else
$escaped:=$escaped+$char
End if
End for

$0:=$escape

---

there is no native mapping to/from objects.



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Re: HTTP Request and x-www-form-urlencoded

[Narinder Chandi via 4D_Tech]

Tom,

This may have been mentioned already, but I just remembered that it is possible 
to do this encoding natively with 4D's XML and XSLT Transformation commands and 
I wrote a pair of encode/decode functions several years ago that worked no 
problem.

However, XSLT has been deprecated in v17. So, unless you are using a prior 
version of 4D (and I get the impression that you are not as you mention ORDA in 
a previous post) then  you are out of luck. However, if you want the 
encode/decoded functions let me know and I can send them to privately.

Regards,
 
Narinder Chandi,
ToolBox Systems Ltd.
 
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Subject: Re: HTTP Request and x-www-form-urlencoded

Tom,

>https://github.com/miyako/4d-tips-encode-uri
>I found that component earlier today and it does help a bit. I was 
looking for a way to fill an object with key value pairs which HTTP Request 
would then convert into the right content-type.

Unfortunately HTTP Request is sadly still lacking this capability and, to 
the best of my knowledge, it is not a part of the HTTP client command set or 
the Internet Command set which is rather a glaring oversight IMO. It is pretty 
standard stuff as far as HTTP requests go. 4D really need to address this.

You could perhaps create your own wrapper around HTTP Request and combine 
that with Miyako's code if that might solve your problem?

Regards,
 
Narinder Chandi,
ToolBox Systems Ltd.
 
I am available for new consulting opportunities…
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Re: HTTP Request and x-www-form-urlencoded

[Narinder Chandi via 4D_Tech]

Tom,

>https://github.com/miyako/4d-tips-encode-uri
>I found that component earlier today and it does help a bit. I was looking 
for a way to fill an object with key value pairs which HTTP Request would then 
convert into the right content-type.

Unfortunately HTTP Request is sadly still lacking this capability and, to the 
best of my knowledge, it is not a part of the HTTP client command set or the 
Internet Command set which is rather a glaring oversight IMO. It is pretty 
standard stuff as far as HTTP requests go. 4D really need to address this.

You could perhaps create your own wrapper around HTTP Request and combine that 
with Miyako's code if that might solve your problem?

Regards,
 
Narinder Chandi,
ToolBox Systems Ltd.
 
I am available for new consulting opportunities…
http://4d.1045681.n5.nabble.com/ANN-4D-Developer-Available-td5765443.html
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Re: HTTP Request and x-www-form-urlencoded

[Tom Benedict via 4D_Tech]

Hi Narinder,

Thanks again for your quick response!

>I'm not sure but maybe this will help you?
> 
> >https://github.com/miyako/4d-tips-encode-uri 
> ><https://github.com/miyako/4d-tips-encode-uri>
I found that component earlier today and it does help a bit. I was looking for 
a way to fill an object with key value pairs which HTTP Request would then 
convert into the right content-type. 

Tom Benedict

> On Oct 12, 2019, at 13:45, Narinder Chandi via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Tom,
> 
> I'm not sure but maybe this will help you?
> https://github.com/miyako/4d-tips-encode-uri
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Narinder Chandi,
> ToolBox Systems Ltd.
> 
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> Date: Saturday, 12 October 2019 at 20:54
> To: 4D Tech Mailing List <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> Cc: Tom Benedict 
> Subject: HTTP Request and x-www-form-urlencoded
> 
>I have very little experience with HTTP Request. I’m calling an external 
> REST service using 4D’s HTTP Request command. The REST service requires that 
> the content-type be x-www-form-urlencoded. The “contents” parameter of the 
> HTTP Request command supports sending a 4D Object (JSON) but that is failing 
> (unknown parameter) when I submit it to the REST service. I suspect that is 
> the REST service is expecting x-www-form-urlencoded rather than JSON. 
> 
>I’ve successfully tested the REST service using Postman and I can copy the 
> encoded URL from Postman and send it successfully from 4D HTTP Request 
> instead or JSON. So I just need to build the encoded URL on the 4D side. It’s 
> tedious to do though, and I think it’s convenient to use an object on the 4D 
> side to manage the key value pairs. So I’m wondering is there an ‘easy’ way 
> to convert a JSON object into an encoded URL?
> 
>Hope this makes sense,
> 
>Tom Benedict
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Re: HTTP Request and x-www-form-urlencoded

[Tom Benedict via 4D_Tech]

Thanks John,

Narinda Chandi points out Miyako’s URL_Encode component 
https://github.com/miyako/4d-tips-encode-uri 
, which appears to be a product 
of the forum thread you referenced. In that component Miyako discusses and 
supports 5 ways to encode, each with different rules. At this point I just 
manually concatenate all the keys and values into a URL encoding each key or 
value as needed. The HTTP Request command docs state that the contents 
parameter is automatically encoded but evidently not in the way that I need.

I must confess I don’t understand any of this stuff. I recall struggling years 
ago trying to make an HTTP POST work with 4DIC. Hours of trial and error, 
because I simply didn’t (and still don’t) understand the underlying concepts. I 
figured it might be easier now that we have HTTP Request. I was kind hoping 
there’d be a nice ORDA way to populate a “content" object and send it on it’s 
way. If that’s possible, I’ve missed it.

Thanks again,

Tom Benedict

> On Oct 12, 2019, at 13:49, John DeSoi via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> No easy way in 4D because there is no built in function to do url encoding. 
> See feature request at the link below along with some code to implement it.
> 
> https://forums.4d.com/Post/EN/17578327/1/17591881
> 
> John DeSoi, Ph.D.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 12, 2019, at 1:54 PM, Tom Benedict via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve successfully tested the REST service using Postman and I can copy the 
>> encoded URL from Postman and send it successfully from 4D HTTP Request 
>> instead or JSON. So I just need to build the encoded URL on the 4D side. 
>> It’s tedious to do though, and I think it’s convenient to use an object on 
>> the 4D side to manage the key value pairs. So I’m wondering is there an 
>> ‘easy’ way to convert a JSON object into an encoded URL?
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Re: HTTP Request and x-www-form-urlencoded

[John DeSoi via 4D_Tech]

No easy way in 4D because there is no built in function to do url encoding. See 
feature request at the link below along with some code to implement it.

https://forums.4d.com/Post/EN/17578327/1/17591881

John DeSoi, Ph.D.



> On Oct 12, 2019, at 1:54 PM, Tom Benedict via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I’ve successfully tested the REST service using Postman and I can copy the 
> encoded URL from Postman and send it successfully from 4D HTTP Request 
> instead or JSON. So I just need to build the encoded URL on the 4D side. It’s 
> tedious to do though, and I think it’s convenient to use an object on the 4D 
> side to manage the key value pairs. So I’m wondering is there an ‘easy’ way 
> to convert a JSON object into an encoded URL?

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Re: HTTP Request and x-www-form-urlencoded

[Narinder Chandi via 4D_Tech]

Tom,

I'm not sure but maybe this will help you?
https://github.com/miyako/4d-tips-encode-uri

Regards,
 
Narinder Chandi,
ToolBox Systems Ltd.
 
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Subject: HTTP Request and x-www-form-urlencoded

I have very little experience with HTTP Request. I’m calling an external 
REST service using 4D’s HTTP Request command. The REST service requires that 
the content-type be x-www-form-urlencoded. The “contents” parameter of the HTTP 
Request command supports sending a 4D Object (JSON) but that is failing 
(unknown parameter) when I submit it to the REST service. I suspect that is the 
REST service is expecting x-www-form-urlencoded rather than JSON. 

I’ve successfully tested the REST service using Postman and I can copy the 
encoded URL from Postman and send it successfully from 4D HTTP Request instead 
or JSON. So I just need to build the encoded URL on the 4D side. It’s tedious 
to do though, and I think it’s convenient to use an object on the 4D side to 
manage the key value pairs. So I’m wondering is there an ‘easy’ way to convert 
a JSON object into an encoded URL?

Hope this makes sense,

Tom Benedict
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HTTP Request and x-www-form-urlencoded

[Tom Benedict via 4D_Tech]

I have very little experience with HTTP Request. I’m calling an external REST 
service using 4D’s HTTP Request command. The REST service requires that the 
content-type be x-www-form-urlencoded. The “contents” parameter of the HTTP 
Request command supports sending a 4D Object (JSON) but that is failing 
(unknown parameter) when I submit it to the REST service. I suspect that is the 
REST service is expecting x-www-form-urlencoded rather than JSON. 

I’ve successfully tested the REST service using Postman and I can copy the 
encoded URL from Postman and send it successfully from 4D HTTP Request instead 
or JSON. So I just need to build the encoded URL on the 4D side. It’s tedious 
to do though, and I think it’s convenient to use an object on the 4D side to 
manage the key value pairs. So I’m wondering is there an ‘easy’ way to convert 
a JSON object into an encoded URL?

Hope this makes sense,

Tom Benedict
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