Re: Anyone been using R5 for real work?

[James Brown via 4D_Tech]

Sounds similar to what our developers experienced with 16R5 (moving from 15.4):

Today we upgraded to 16 R5.

We have a feature in our standard transaction enquiry, that allows a user to 
switch to a custom enquiry. Once in the custom enquiry mode, the user has the 
ability to add fields from the related table and modify the order in which they 
appear.

As an example in V16 R5, as soon as you go to set up in the custom enquiry and 
click okay, it deletes a field from the enquiry and each time you go to the 
custom enquiry it does the same thing, until you have no fields left. Whilst we 
can more than likely do a programmatically work around, this would suddenly 
require us to maintain 2 sets of source codes, one for V15 and one for V16R5.

This is something we are not prepared to do, so we have now ceased all 
development in V16 and reverting back to V15.

We are not prepared to do any more development in R releases.

So we are back on version 15 for the moment.

James.

> On 20 Jan 2018, at 5:47 am, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com 
> > wrote:
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> For us, there's one show-stopping bug in r5 (not present in R4). It's a bit
> obscure ... In our Data Import area we have a listbox in which users can
> add columns to map incoming data (e.g. from a spreadsheet or csv file) to
> fields in the database. If a field name is duplicated, it generates an
> error and the listbox cannot be displayed.
> 
> So, I hear you asking, "Why would you have duplicate field names?" Well you
> don't - but you can select an "Extra Field" option to ignore any incoming
> column. You could have any number of Extra Fields.
> 
> On 19 January 2018 at 16:53, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com 
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>> Just wondering how it's going... there's so much new stuff it's tempting
>> to jump on the "R" train. But 16.3 is so extremely solid...
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Re: Anyone been using R5 for real work?

[John Baughman via 4D_Tech]

Jeff,

I can’t remember if there were any other commands. I think there might 
have been. SET QUERY DESTINATION stood out to me as I use it everywhere.

Dot notation had a similar issue but I figure it made sense…

Open Form(oMyObject.formname)

This seems a logical typing issue interpreted and probably to the 
compiler as well. 

John

   

> On Jan 19, 2018, at 9:41 AM, Jeff Grann via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
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> John,
> 
> I type all variables, but I’ve seen this with SET QUERY DESTINATION as well 
> in some test, maintenance and “throw-away” code in which typing may or may 
> not exist. Do you know any other commands that have this issue in R5?
> 
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>> On Jan 19, 2018, at 12:36 PM, John Baughman via 4D_Tech 
>> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Jeff, 
>> 
>> I have deployed R4 to 2 clients several months ago and did not seen any 
>> problems.
>> 
>> I have now deployed R5 this month and so far so good. 
>> 
>> One issue with R5 is that running interpreted typing is an issue with a few 
>> commands such as SET QUERY DESTINATION (into variable;myVar). Unlike 
>> previous versions myVar will throw an error as myVar will be undefined 
>> unless it has been previously used or explicitly typed. Of course this is 
>> not a problem if you are running compiled or otherwise disciplined to have 
>> everything typed. 
>> 
>> John Baughman
>> Kailua, Hawaii
>> john...@hawaii.rr.com
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Re: Anyone been using R5 for real work?

[Jeff Grann via 4D_Tech]

I have found R5 to be solid so far as well.

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Re: Anyone been using R5 for real work?

[Keith Culotta via 4D_Tech]

R5 has been very solid to the extent I've used it.  I'm using dot notation and 
the new FORM object to get a floating window to communicate with instances of a 
subform containing a SVG picture.  The FORM object is very convenient.  I 
haven't tried to access tables.

Keith - CDI

> On Jan 19, 2018, at 10:53 AM, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Just wondering how it's going... there's so much new stuff it's tempting to 
> jump on the "R" train. But 16.3 is so extremely solid...


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Re: Anyone been using R5 for real work?

[Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech]

Pat,
Extra1, Extra2 etc?
:)


On Fri, 19 Jan 2018 18:47:46 +, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech wrote:
> For us, there's one show-stopping bug in r5 (not present in R4). It's a bit
> obscure ... In our Data Import area we have a listbox in which users can
> add columns to map incoming data (e.g. from a spreadsheet or csv file) to
> fields in the database. If a field name is duplicated, it generates an
> error and the listbox cannot be displayed.
> 
> So, I hear you asking, "Why would you have duplicate field names?" Well you
> don't - but you can select an "Extra Field" option to ignore any incoming
> column. You could have any number of Extra Fields.
> 
> On 19 January 2018 at 16:53, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Just wondering how it's going... there's so much new stuff it's tempting
>> to jump on the "R" train. But 16.3 is so extremely solid...
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Re: Anyone been using R5 for real work?

[Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech]

For us, there's one show-stopping bug in r5 (not present in R4). It's a bit
obscure ... In our Data Import area we have a listbox in which users can
add columns to map incoming data (e.g. from a spreadsheet or csv file) to
fields in the database. If a field name is duplicated, it generates an
error and the listbox cannot be displayed.

So, I hear you asking, "Why would you have duplicate field names?" Well you
don't - but you can select an "Extra Field" option to ignore any incoming
column. You could have any number of Extra Fields.

On 19 January 2018 at 16:53, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
wrote:

> Just wondering how it's going... there's so much new stuff it's tempting
> to jump on the "R" train. But 16.3 is so extremely solid...
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RE: Anyone been using R5 for real work?

[Stephen J. Orth via 4D_Tech]

Randy,

Are you using the 64 bit version of Client, and if so, are you having any 
plugin issues?


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From: 4D_Tech [mailto:4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com] On Behalf Of Randy Engle 
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Subject: RE: Anyone been using R5 for real work?

Jeff,

I'm testing with 16r5
Found a problem building with OEM keys, but if you are not OEM, that shouldn't 
be  a problem.
Will let you know if we find anything else.

Randy Engle, Director
XC2 Software LLC – XC2LIVE!

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Subject: Anyone been using R5 for real work?

Just wondering how it's going... there's so much new stuff it's tempting to 
jump on the "R" train. But 16.3 is so extremely solid...
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Re: Anyone been using R5 for real work?

[John Baughman via 4D_Tech]

Jeff, 

I have deployed R4 to 2 clients several months ago and did not seen any 
problems.

I have now deployed R5 this month and so far so good. 

One issue with R5 is that running interpreted typing is an issue with a few 
commands such as SET QUERY DESTINATION (into variable;myVar). Unlike previous 
versions myVar will throw an error as myVar will be undefined unless it has 
been previously used or explicitly typed. Of course this is not a problem if 
you are running compiled or otherwise disciplined to have everything typed. 

John Baughman
Kailua, Hawaii
john...@hawaii.rr.com

> On Jan 19, 2018, at 9:08 AM, Randy Engle via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Jeff,
> 
> I'm testing with 16r5
> Found a problem building with OEM keys, but if you are not OEM, that 
> shouldn't be  a problem.
> Will let you know if we find anything else.
> 
> Randy Engle, Director
> XC2 Software LLC – XC2LIVE!
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Anyone been using R5 for real work?
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> Just wondering how it's going... there's so much new stuff it's tempting to 
> jump on the "R" train. But 16.3 is so extremely solid...
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RE: Anyone been using R5 for real work?

[Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech]

Randy,

I will be responding to your case shortly about the licenses; you probably just 
need to re-register the licenses. But I will follow up via the case notes with 
a more thorough response right now.

-Tim





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Cc: Randy Engle <4d.l...@xc2.us>
Subject: RE: Anyone been using R5 for real work?

Jeff,

I'm testing with 16r5
Found a problem building with OEM keys, but if you are not OEM, that shouldn't 
be  a problem.
Will let you know if we find anything else.

Randy Engle, Director
XC2 Software LLC – XC2LIVE!

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Subject: Anyone been using R5 for real work?

Just wondering how it's going... there's so much new stuff it's tempting to 
jump on the "R" train. But 16.3 is so extremely solid...
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RE: Anyone been using R5 for real work?

[Randy Engle via 4D_Tech]

Jeff,

I'm testing with 16r5
Found a problem building with OEM keys, but if you are not OEM, that shouldn't 
be  a problem.
Will let you know if we find anything else.

Randy Engle, Director
XC2 Software LLC – XC2LIVE!

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Subject: Anyone been using R5 for real work?

Just wondering how it's going... there's so much new stuff it's tempting to 
jump on the "R" train. But 16.3 is so extremely solid...
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RE: Anyone been using R5 for real work?

[Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech]

The 4D Forums is running v16R5: http://forums.4d.com/4dwebtest
& so is TAOW: https://taow.4d.com/4dwebtest
& Doc Center: http://doc.4d.com/4dwebtest

From my perspective, as a user of these systems, it seems to be good.

Hope that helps!

-Tim



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