Re: 4D scanning

2021-06-24 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech 
the minimum version is v17.

v16 and earlier does not support object/collection plugin parameters.

it would have to be rewritten to use JSON text instead.

2021/06/24 20:03、Peter Mew via 4D_Tech 
<4d_tech@lists.4d.com>のメール:
Thanks for the detailed instructions. I got led astray by the dmg file
showing "no mountable file systems" the zip unpacks fine.
can you tell me which is the last version to work with 4D v13.6

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Re: 4D scanning

2021-06-24 Thread Peter Mew via 4D_Tech 
Hi Miyako
Thanks for the detailed instructions. I got led astray by the dmg file
showing "no mountable file systems" the zip unpacks fine.
can you tell me which is the last version to work with 4D v13.6
Thank you
-pm

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 11:12 PM Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech <
4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

> you can click on "Releases" and select a release by tag
>
> https://github.com/miyako/4d-plugin-twain-v2/releases/tag/3.4.0
>
> also there is a prebuilt binary, preinstalled in the sample DB when you
> get the source repository.
>
> also you can unarchive the .zip or .dmg that comes with the source
> repository.
>
> ---
>
> there are several ways to communicate with a scanner
>
> ICA the standard on Mac and WIA is the new standard on Windows.
> some hardware vendors may not provide a TWAIN driver for Windows.
> I am unaware of any TWAIN scanners for Mac.
>
> 2021/06/24 6:26、Peter Mew via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com 4d_tech@lists.4d.com>>のメール:
> Id quite like to try Miyakos Twain PlugIn 4d-plugin-twain-v2
> How do I get a Binary for this. Ive been to Git Hub but cant see any way to
> just download the plug in.
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Re: 4D scanning

2021-06-23 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech 
you can click on "Releases" and select a release by tag

https://github.com/miyako/4d-plugin-twain-v2/releases/tag/3.4.0

also there is a prebuilt binary, preinstalled in the sample DB when you get the 
source repository.

also you can unarchive the .zip or .dmg that comes with the source repository.

---

there are several ways to communicate with a scanner

ICA the standard on Mac and WIA is the new standard on Windows.
some hardware vendors may not provide a TWAIN driver for Windows.
I am unaware of any TWAIN scanners for Mac.

2021/06/24 6:26、Peter Mew via 4D_Tech 
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Id quite like to try Miyakos Twain PlugIn 4d-plugin-twain-v2
How do I get a Binary for this. Ive been to Git Hub but cant see any way to
just download the plug in.

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Re: 4D scanning

2021-06-23 Thread Peter Mew via 4D_Tech 
Id quite like to try Miyakos Twain PlugIn 4d-plugin-twain-v2
.
How do I get a Binary for this. Ive been to Git Hub but cant see any way to
just download the plug in.
Any help please
thanks
-pm

On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 10:17 AM Claudio Braga via 4D_Tech <
4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Mac you can use scanline https://github.com/klep/scanline <
> https://github.com/klep/scanline>
>
> It is a cli util so with some launch external process calls you can drive
> it
>
> i.e.
>
> To get the list of available scanners
>
> $command:="/usr/local/bin/scanline -list -browsesecs 1 "
>
> $std_in:=""
> $std_out:=""
> $error:=""
> LAUNCH EXTERNAL PROCESS($command;$std_in;$std_out;$error)
>
>
> To actually do a scan
>
> //vSCANDOCS_scanner is the name of the scanner found with the -browsesecs
> option
>
> $command:="/usr/local/bin/scanline -scanner \""+vSCANDOCS_scanner
>
> $command:=$command+"\" -a4 -flatbed -dir \""+Convert path system to
> POSIX($folder)+"\" -name "+$filename_for_scan
> $std_in:=""
> $std_out:=""
> $error:=""
> LAUNCH EXTERNAL PROCESS($command;$std_in;$std_out;$error)
>
>
> So far I’ve been using it up to OS X 10.14, I’m in the process of testing
> it on Catalina, we’ll see
>
> HIH
>
>
>
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>
> > Il giorno 21 giu 2021, alle ore 18:53, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech <
> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> ha scritto:
> >
> > David:
> >
> > Thanks for that snip of code. Hopefully someone in the know will be able
> to let us know about the MacOS.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jody Bevan
> >
> >> On Jun 21, 2021, at 4:20 AM, David Samson via 4D_Tech <
> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I don't know about Macs but on a PC you don't need a plugin for simple
> >> scanning. I use
> >>
> >> I use a free program called NAPS2 which has proven to be very reliable
> over
> >> the years. I scan the document into a known folder and retrieve it from
> >> there and can then do what I want with it.
> >>
> >> The code is simply the following:
> >>
> >> SET ENVIRONMENT VARIABLE("_4D_OPTION_HIDE_CONSOLE";"true")
> >>
> >> cDTPath:=System folder(Desktop)
> >> cDTPath:=cDTPath+Char(92)+"4DScan"+Char(92)
> >> cDTPath:=PATH_Fix (cDTPath)
> >>
> >> If (Test path name(cDTPath)#Is a folder)
> >>   CREATE FOLDER(cDTPath)
> >> Else
> >>   DOCUMENT LIST(cDTPath;acOldDocs)
> >>   For ($old;1;Size of array(acOldDocs))
> >> DELETE DOCUMENT(cDTPath+acOldDocs{$old})
> >>   End for
> >> End if
> >>
> >> cDTPath:=cDTPath+Char(92)+"ScannedPI"+Generate UUID+".pdf"
> >> cDTPath:=PATH_Fix (cDTPath)
> >> LAUNCH EXTERNAL PROCESS("C:\\Program Files (x86)\\nAPS2\\naps2.console
> >> -o"+cDTPath)
> >>
> >> All you need to do in setting up NAPS2 is to create a profile which
> tells
> >> it which scanner to use.
> >>
> >> HTH
> >> David
> >>
> >>
> >>> Message: 1
> >>> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2021 16:54:47 +0100
> >>> From: Peter Mew 
> >>> To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> >>> Subject: 4D scanning
> >>> Message-ID:
> >>>   <
> >>> cao0ooqqc_ribzifseq7h6wsm-u+fejteuww26xnybpme5ax...@mail.gmail.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >>>
> >>> Hi
> >>> I havent done any of this for a while so Im a bit! rusty.
> >>> I looking to download Miyakos twain plug in, Where do I find it? or is
> >>> there a better plugin that will capture scans and work with 4D v13 mac
> and
> >>> PC preferably free
> >>> thanks
> >>> -pm
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: 4D scanning

2021-06-22 Thread Claudio Braga via 4D_Tech 
Hi, 

On Mac you can use scanline https://github.com/klep/scanline 


It is a cli util so with some launch external process calls you can drive it

i.e.

To get the list of available scanners 

$command:="/usr/local/bin/scanline -list -browsesecs 1 "
$std_in:=""
$std_out:=""
$error:=""
LAUNCH EXTERNAL PROCESS($command;$std_in;$std_out;$error)


To actually do a scan

//vSCANDOCS_scanner is the name of the scanner found with the -browsesecs option

$command:="/usr/local/bin/scanline -scanner \""+vSCANDOCS_scanner   
$command:=$command+"\" -a4 -flatbed -dir \""+Convert path system to 
POSIX($folder)+"\" -name "+$filename_for_scan
$std_in:=""
$std_out:=""
$error:=""
LAUNCH EXTERNAL PROCESS($command;$std_in;$std_out;$error)


So far I’ve been using it up to OS X 10.14, I’m in the process of testing it on 
Catalina, we’ll see

HIH



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> Il giorno 21 giu 2021, alle ore 18:53, Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech 
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> ha scritto:
> 
> David:
> 
> Thanks for that snip of code. Hopefully someone in the know will be able to 
> let us know about the MacOS.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jody Bevan
> 
>> On Jun 21, 2021, at 4:20 AM, David Samson via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I don't know about Macs but on a PC you don't need a plugin for simple
>> scanning. I use
>> 
>> I use a free program called NAPS2 which has proven to be very reliable over
>> the years. I scan the document into a known folder and retrieve it from
>> there and can then do what I want with it.
>> 
>> The code is simply the following:
>> 
>> SET ENVIRONMENT VARIABLE("_4D_OPTION_HIDE_CONSOLE";"true")
>> 
>> cDTPath:=System folder(Desktop)
>> cDTPath:=cDTPath+Char(92)+"4DScan"+Char(92)
>> cDTPath:=PATH_Fix (cDTPath)
>> 
>> If (Test path name(cDTPath)#Is a folder)
>>   CREATE FOLDER(cDTPath)
>> Else
>>   DOCUMENT LIST(cDTPath;acOldDocs)
>>   For ($old;1;Size of array(acOldDocs))
>> DELETE DOCUMENT(cDTPath+acOldDocs{$old})
>>   End for
>> End if
>> 
>> cDTPath:=cDTPath+Char(92)+"ScannedPI"+Generate UUID+".pdf"
>> cDTPath:=PATH_Fix (cDTPath)
>> LAUNCH EXTERNAL PROCESS("C:\\Program Files (x86)\\nAPS2\\naps2.console
>> -o"+cDTPath)
>> 
>> All you need to do in setting up NAPS2 is to create a profile which tells
>> it which scanner to use.
>> 
>> HTH
>> David
>> 
>> 
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2021 16:54:47 +0100
>>> From: Peter Mew 
>>> To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
>>> Subject: 4D scanning
>>> Message-ID:
>>>   <
>>> cao0ooqqc_ribzifseq7h6wsm-u+fejteuww26xnybpme5ax...@mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> I havent done any of this for a while so Im a bit! rusty.
>>> I looking to download Miyakos twain plug in, Where do I find it? or is
>>> there a better plugin that will capture scans and work with 4D v13 mac and
>>> PC preferably free
>>> thanks
>>> -pm
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: 4D scanning

2021-06-21 Thread Jody Bevan via 4D_Tech 
David:

Thanks for that snip of code. Hopefully someone in the know will be able to let 
us know about the MacOS.

Thanks

Jody Bevan

> On Jun 21, 2021, at 4:20 AM, David Samson via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I don't know about Macs but on a PC you don't need a plugin for simple
> scanning. I use
> 
> I use a free program called NAPS2 which has proven to be very reliable over
> the years. I scan the document into a known folder and retrieve it from
> there and can then do what I want with it.
> 
> The code is simply the following:
> 
> SET ENVIRONMENT VARIABLE("_4D_OPTION_HIDE_CONSOLE";"true")
> 
> cDTPath:=System folder(Desktop)
> cDTPath:=cDTPath+Char(92)+"4DScan"+Char(92)
> cDTPath:=PATH_Fix (cDTPath)
> 
> If (Test path name(cDTPath)#Is a folder)
>CREATE FOLDER(cDTPath)
> Else
>DOCUMENT LIST(cDTPath;acOldDocs)
>For ($old;1;Size of array(acOldDocs))
>  DELETE DOCUMENT(cDTPath+acOldDocs{$old})
>End for
> End if
> 
> cDTPath:=cDTPath+Char(92)+"ScannedPI"+Generate UUID+".pdf"
> cDTPath:=PATH_Fix (cDTPath)
> LAUNCH EXTERNAL PROCESS("C:\\Program Files (x86)\\nAPS2\\naps2.console
> -o"+cDTPath)
> 
> All you need to do in setting up NAPS2 is to create a profile which tells
> it which scanner to use.
> 
> HTH
> David
> 
> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2021 16:54:47 +0100
>> From: Peter Mew 
>> To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
>> Subject: 4D scanning
>> Message-ID:
>><
>> cao0ooqqc_ribzifseq7h6wsm-u+fejteuww26xnybpme5ax...@mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>> 
>> Hi
>> I havent done any of this for a while so Im a bit! rusty.
>> I looking to download Miyakos twain plug in, Where do I find it? or is
>> there a better plugin that will capture scans and work with 4D v13 mac and
>> PC preferably free
>> thanks
>> -pm
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: 4D scanning

2021-06-21 Thread David Samson via 4D_Tech 
Hello,

I don't know about Macs but on a PC you don't need a plugin for simple
scanning. I use

I use a free program called NAPS2 which has proven to be very reliable over
the years. I scan the document into a known folder and retrieve it from
there and can then do what I want with it.

The code is simply the following:

SET ENVIRONMENT VARIABLE("_4D_OPTION_HIDE_CONSOLE";"true")

cDTPath:=System folder(Desktop)
cDTPath:=cDTPath+Char(92)+"4DScan"+Char(92)
cDTPath:=PATH_Fix (cDTPath)

If (Test path name(cDTPath)#Is a folder)
CREATE FOLDER(cDTPath)
Else
DOCUMENT LIST(cDTPath;acOldDocs)
For ($old;1;Size of array(acOldDocs))
  DELETE DOCUMENT(cDTPath+acOldDocs{$old})
End for
End if

cDTPath:=cDTPath+Char(92)+"ScannedPI"+Generate UUID+".pdf"
cDTPath:=PATH_Fix (cDTPath)
LAUNCH EXTERNAL PROCESS("C:\\Program Files (x86)\\nAPS2\\naps2.console
-o"+cDTPath)

All you need to do in setting up NAPS2 is to create a profile which tells
it which scanner to use.

HTH
David


> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2021 16:54:47 +0100
> From: Peter Mew 
> To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> Subject: 4D scanning
> Message-ID:
> <
> cao0ooqqc_ribzifseq7h6wsm-u+fejteuww26xnybpme5ax...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Hi
> I havent done any of this for a while so Im a bit! rusty.
> I looking to download Miyakos twain plug in, Where do I find it? or is
> there a better plugin that will capture scans and work with 4D v13 mac and
> PC preferably free
> thanks
> -pm
>
>
>
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Re: 4D scanning

2021-06-19 Thread Peter Bozek via 4D_Tech 
On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 5:55 PM Peter Mew via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
wrote:

> Hi
> I havent done any of this for a while so Im a bit! rusty.
> I looking to download Miyakos twain plug in, Where do I find it? or is
> there a better plugin that will capture scans and work with 4D v13 mac and
> PC preferably free
> thanks
>

I tried different ways how to communicate with scanner, and currently I am
using ability of most scanners to pass the scanned file to selected
application. So user set 4D app to receive scanned document, and 4D process
dropped file in application On drop method.

This works fine when it is 4D application that mostly communicates with
scanner - for example when scanner is used as document scanner for DB
application.

QR code scanner was able to insert  scanned text into pasteboard, this
makes communication immer simpler.

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Re: 4D scanning

2021-06-18 Thread Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech 
Milan:

Thank you for correcting me on this. I haven't used Miyako's plugin but I
have used QPix a few times over the years and it's an excellent product.

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On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 2:16 AM Milan Adamov via 4D_Tech <
4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:

>
>
> > On 17 Jun 2021, at 19:04, Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech <
> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> >
> > I checked escape.gr  and hmplugins.com <
> http://hmplugins.com/> for their scanner/TWAIN plugins and
> > it looks like those products aren't available any longer.
>
>
> Dannis and Christos moved the company to Bulgaria (they still live in
> Greece), as I can see Q2Pix can work with scanners:
>
> https://escapetech.eu/q/q2pix.html
>
> Milan
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Re: 4D scanning

2021-06-18 Thread Milan Adamov via 4D_Tech 


> On 17 Jun 2021, at 19:04, Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech 
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> 
> I checked escape.gr  and hmplugins.com 
>  for their scanner/TWAIN plugins and
> it looks like those products aren't available any longer.


Dannis and Christos moved the company to Bulgaria (they still live in Greece), 
as I can see Q2Pix can work with scanners:

https://escapetech.eu/q/q2pix.html

Milan

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Re: 4D scanning

2021-06-17 Thread Peter Mew via 4D_Tech 
Thanks, I'll check it out.

On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 6:05 PM Douglas von Roeder 
wrote:

> Peter:
>
> I checked escape.gr and hmplugins.com for their scanner/TWAIN plugins and
> it looks like those products aren't available any longer.
>
> If you search for "miyako" at Github you'll get a list of his
> repositories.
> --
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> 949-910-4084
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 8:55 AM Peter Mew via 4D_Tech <
> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> I havent done any of this for a while so Im a bit! rusty.
>> I looking to download Miyakos twain plug in, Where do I find it? or is
>> there a better plugin that will capture scans and work with 4D v13 mac and
>> PC preferably free
>> thanks
>> -pm
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Re: 4D scanning

2021-06-17 Thread Douglas von Roeder via 4D_Tech 
Peter:

I checked escape.gr and hmplugins.com for their scanner/TWAIN plugins and
it looks like those products aren't available any longer.

If you search for "miyako" at Github you'll get a list of his repositories.
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On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 8:55 AM Peter Mew via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
wrote:

> Hi
> I havent done any of this for a while so Im a bit! rusty.
> I looking to download Miyakos twain plug in, Where do I find it? or is
> there a better plugin that will capture scans and work with 4D v13 mac and
> PC preferably free
> thanks
> -pm
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