Re: Communicating with external electronics

[nug via 4D_Tech]

that makes sense - as active x is (as far as I am aware) depreciated in all 
browsers newer then IE 11


> On Jun 23, 2021, at 7:13 PM, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech 
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> 
> maybe it is using ActiveX
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActiveX
> 
> the script could be invoking another OCX component that does the actual heavy 
> lifting. just a guess.
> 
> 2021/06/24 7:56、nug via 4D_Tech 
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> The scripts, and (as far as I can tell) all the software is in-house and 
> proprietary.
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Re: Communicating with external electronics

[Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech]

maybe it is using ActiveX

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActiveX

the script could be invoking another OCX component that does the actual heavy 
lifting. just a guess.

2021/06/24 7:56、nug via 4D_Tech 
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The scripts, and (as far as I can tell) all the software is in-house and 
proprietary.

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Re: Communicating with external electronics

[nug via 4D_Tech]

Hi Keisuke,
There is a current system, it is slow, it requires weird interfacing between 
(yes!) IE11 and Edge 
- scanning a QR code from the screen (IE 11) to lookup(?) data used in a sql(?) 
system displaying in EDGE

IE11 runs the existing scripts using JAVA, and some (specialized?) web tools 
installed on the device
I was told that they had tried to use a modern browser (Edge, Firefox etc) but 
the scripts error-ed out.

The scripts, and (as far as I can tell) all the software is in-house and 
proprietary.

Chip

> On Jun 23, 2021, at 6:39 PM, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech 
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> 
> I suppose the scripts are written in Python or some other language.
> 
> the script language is probably not important. 
> I imagine it is published as a "language neutral" sample code,
> not as a Software Development Kit or middleware.
> 
> you might even be able to translate it to native 4D for HTTP or RS-232C, 
> NTK for TCP, UDP, etc. 
> I would not recommend Internet Commands for new development.
> 
> it is more important to know the communication protocol for the device.
> 
>> 2021/06/24 7:18、nug via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>のメール:
>> I would need to be able to communicate (from windows 10) to an external 
>> electronic board.
>> running 'scripts' (do not know if the scripts will exist (LEP) or will need 
>> to be written (4D).
>> I would need to run these scripts, to run tests on another piece of 
>> electronics
>> 4D --> board --> electronic device
>> device --> return results of tests to board --> to 4D
>> I have not done this type of device manipulation in the past.
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Re: Communicating with external electronics

[Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech]

I suppose the scripts are written in Python or some other language.

the script language is probably not important. 
I imagine it is published as a "language neutral" sample code,
not as a Software Development Kit or middleware.

you might even be able to translate it to native 4D for HTTP or RS-232C, 
NTK for TCP, UDP, etc. 
I would not recommend Internet Commands for new development.

it is more important to know the communication protocol for the device.

> 2021/06/24 7:18、nug via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>のメール:
> I would need to be able to communicate (from windows 10) to an external 
> electronic board.
> running 'scripts' (do not know if the scripts will exist (LEP) or will need 
> to be written (4D).
> I would need to run these scripts, to run tests on another piece of 
> electronics
> 4D --> board --> electronic device
> device --> return results of tests to board --> to 4D
> I have not done this type of device manipulation in the past.
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