Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

2009-03-19 Thread Bruce Ellis
I don't trust penguins. But it's worth a try. I haven't installed the
linux goo on my pusbox - if tiger wasn't house trained he would do
more than bark at it when it thrashes crazy.

But yes. Read the spec and come up with ideas. Move this to Casella
group if we have enough enthusiasts.

brucee

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com wrote:

 On Mar 18, 2009, at 11:47 PM, Bruce Ellis wrote:

 The chip is a totally insane challenge. But looks like a lot of fun
 and functionality.


 What do you say to a linuxemu as the first pass?  At least that keeps
 us in the realm of using the official Forth environment until we gain
 enough leverage for promoting our own tool chain...

 If that's the case, can usb/usbd; usb/disk should recognize the target well
 enough for current usage (just a FAT disk) and pass that through to
 linuxemu...

 -jas






Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook

2009-03-19 Thread Anthony Sorace
i was looking at this a week or two ago, trying to find an ARM or MIPS
laptop to play with. my first question was whether the missing parts
of the MIPS instruction set are things that our compilers currently
generate; SoC (oh, and my day job) ramped up before i could find the
list of missing instructions. any idea?

getting quotes or delivery in the US seemed tricky, too.



Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook

2009-03-19 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Anthony Sorace ano...@gmail.com wrote:
 i was looking at this a week or two ago, trying to find an ARM or MIPS
 laptop to play with. my first question was whether the missing parts
 of the MIPS instruction set are things that our compilers currently
 generate; SoC (oh, and my day job) ramped up before i could find the
 list of missing instructions. any idea?

 getting quotes or delivery in the US seemed tricky, too.

so, here's a silghtly controversial (maybe) suggestion. Maybe my
memory is wrong, but i believe the vx32 kernel is gcc-compiled. There
is gcc for this CPU. It might be easier to start from the vx32 kernel
and gcc to target this machine, rather than do a 64-bit MIPS port of
the plan 9 C compiler. Or not: a few of the folks on this list could
probably retarget in very short order (I'm not one of the,however).

ron



Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of) notebook

2009-03-19 Thread Iruata Souza
tim weiss started work on kencc mips64 port and I started (w/o the
compiler) playing with Plan 9 on mips64 based on the old carrera port.

the stupid initial code is at http://src.oitobits.net/9sgi

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:24 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Anthony Sorace ano...@gmail.com wrote:
 i was looking at this a week or two ago, trying to find an ARM or MIPS
 laptop to play with. my first question was whether the missing parts
 of the MIPS instruction set are things that our compilers currently
 generate; SoC (oh, and my day job) ramped up before i could find the
 list of missing instructions. any idea?

 getting quotes or delivery in the US seemed tricky, too.

 so, here's a silghtly controversial (maybe) suggestion. Maybe my
 memory is wrong, but i believe the vx32 kernel is gcc-compiled. There
 is gcc for this CPU. It might be easier to start from the vx32 kernel
 and gcc to target this machine, rather than do a 64-bit MIPS port of
 the plan 9 C compiler. Or not: a few of the folks on this list could
 probably retarget in very short order (I'm not one of the,however).

 ron





-- 
iru



Re: [9fans] sftpfs

2009-03-19 Thread Federico G. Benavento
sftpfs + openssh just saved me a lot of time,

thanks Fazlul!

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Fazlul Shahriar fshahr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I wrote a file server for the SSH File Transfer Protocol (SFTP).  You
 can find it here:

        http://www.tip9ug.jp/who/fhs/sftpfs.tgz

 It implements version 3 of the protocol because that's the version
 most widely use.  At least OpenSSH uses version 3.  Also, it requires
 that you have the OpenSSH port install (see README).

 Anyway, enjoy!

 fhs

 PS.
 This is my first 9p fs, so I'm not responsible for data loss ☺






-- 
Federico G. Benavento



Re: [9fans] MIPS-64

2009-03-19 Thread Tim Wiess
Yes I started on working the toolchain a couple years ago, based on
some earlier work done at the labs.  Development stalled due to other
work at the time and I never got back to it.

But it's on sources (tim/4acl.tgz) if anybody wants to pick it up.
I'm happy to provide any help.

tim


 tim weiss started work on kencc mips64 port and I started (w/o the
 compiler) playing with Plan 9 on mips64 based on the old carrera port.
 
 the stupid initial code is at http://src.oitobits.net/9sgi
 
 On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:24 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Anthony Sorace ano...@gmail.com wrote:
 i was looking at this a week or two ago, trying to find an ARM or MIPS
 laptop to play with. my first question was whether the missing parts
 of the MIPS instruction set are things that our compilers currently
 generate; SoC (oh, and my day job) ramped up before i could find the
 list of missing instructions. any idea?

 getting quotes or delivery in the US seemed tricky, too.

 so, here's a silghtly controversial (maybe) suggestion. Maybe my
 memory is wrong, but i believe the vx32 kernel is gcc-compiled. There
 is gcc for this CPU. It might be easier to start from the vx32 kernel
 and gcc to target this machine, rather than do a 64-bit MIPS port of
 the plan 9 C compiler. Or not: a few of the folks on this list could
 probably retarget in very short order (I'm not one of the,however).

 ron


 
 
 
 -- 
 iru




Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort

2009-03-19 Thread john
 i was looking at this a week or two ago, trying to find an ARM or MIPS
 laptop to play with. my first question was whether the missing parts
 of the MIPS instruction set are things that our compilers currently
 generate; SoC (oh, and my day job) ramped up before i could find the
 list of missing instructions. any idea?
 
 getting quotes or delivery in the US seemed tricky, too.

I found this a couple months ago and showed it to Ron, tried to get a
quote or some info on buying them but nobody even replied to my email.
Can you even get them in China?  Are they even being produced?


John




Re: [9fans] Fwd: New Chip (SEAforth 40C18) - New Challenge

2009-03-19 Thread Bruce Ellis
Please share your experience.

http://groups.google.com/group/casella

brucee

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Pavel Klinkovsky
pavel.klinkov...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am playing with the FORTHdrive (SEAforth-24 chip) for half a year.
 We are testing it for a signal processing.

 I can confirm it is a wonderful chip.
 But it needs a little bit different view to the programming. ;-)

 Pavel





Re: [9fans] GSoC 2009: Plan 9 is in!

2009-03-19 Thread Dave Eckhardt
Congratulations!

I'm glad to have been so totally wrong about our prospects.

Dave Eckhardt



Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort

2009-03-19 Thread Jack Johnson
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 6:49 PM,  j...@csplan9.rit.edu wrote:
 I found this a couple months ago and showed it to Ron, tried to get a
 quote or some info on buying them but nobody even replied to my email.
 Can you even get them in China?  Are they even being produced?

There's some reseller in the U.K., I think.  Let me see if I can dig it up.

-Jack



Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort

2009-03-19 Thread Jason Gurtz
On 3/19/2009 22:49, j...@csplan9.rit.edu wrote:
 Can you even get them in China?  Are they even being produced?

Straight from the Dutch...
http://www.tekmote.nl/epages/61504599.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61504599/Categories

~Jason



Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort

2009-03-19 Thread Jack Johnson
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Jack Johnson knapj...@gmail.com wrote:
 There's some reseller in the U.K., I think.  Let me see if I can dig it up.

Whoops, wrong country:

http://www.tekmote.nl/epages/61504599.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61504599/Categories/%22Lemote%20product%22

-Jack



Re: [9fans] I can not remember if I sent this or not: MIPS-64 (sort of)

2009-03-19 Thread lucio
 http://www.lemote.com/english/yeeloong.html
 
 It's an interesting site for a number of reasons ...

Yes, it is.  How hard will it be to do business with them?  I have a
feeling we'd want a single point of contact to save a lot of
heartache.

++L




[9fans] twitter

2009-03-19 Thread Anthony Sorace
I've started using Twitter. There, I said it.

I actually signed up for twitter to follow a few 9fans, which seems
sort of weirdly ironic to me. Now with a bunch of GSoC related news
flying around on it, I've actually started using it (lightly), much to
my surprise (and occasional dismay). Going to the web site to poll for
updates is irritating, but there's enough other tools out there that
finding something that presents a more reasonable usage actually isn't
too hard. I wanted something on Plan 9 that worked simply.

Testing has been cursory only, but
/n/sources/contrib/anothy/rc/bin/tweet seems to work. Usage is pretty
much as you'd expect, tweet some message here or fortune | tweet
will do pretty much what you expect. It's a pretty dead simple wrapper
around hget. I even got to give up on authentication, since hget will
ask factotum.

Side note: as I said, this uses hget. I first tried doing it with
webfs, but had problems with the user:p...@domain syntax. Is anyone
using that with webfs?

Anthony (sigh: @anothy)