Re: [9fans] Guide to using Acme effectively?
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Re: [9fans] Guide to using Acme effectively?
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Re: [9fans] Guide to using Acme effectively?
Hilarious. Are the helmet and flame-retardant jumpsuit included? On Jul 6, 2009, at 6:32 AM, mattmob...@proweb.co.uk wrote: Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/Usb_steering_wheel.html I can't help laughing at the thought of one of these wheels hooked up to a plan 9 machine! think big http://playseats.biz/shop/cat038.php?n=1
Re: [9fans] Guide to using Acme effectively?
On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 07:05:37 -0400 Gregory Pavelcak pavel...@gmail.com wrote: Hilarious. Are the helmet and flame-retardant jumpsuit included? On Jul 6, 2009, at 6:32 AM, mattmob...@proweb.co.uk wrote: Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/Usb_steering_wheel.html I can't help laughing at the thought of one of these wheels hooked up to a plan 9 machine! think big http://playseats.biz/shop/cat038.php?n=1 Woohoo! I want one. :D I wouldn't need the flame retardant gear, my system isn't designed as idiotically as the starship Enterprise... -- Ethan Grammatikidis Those who are slower at parsing information must necessarily be faster at problem-solving.
Re: [9fans] Guide to using Acme effectively?
yeah... connecting terminals to warp energy plasma conduits seems to be a bad idea. -- cinap ---BeginMessage--- On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 07:05:37 -0400 Gregory Pavelcak pavel...@gmail.com wrote: Hilarious. Are the helmet and flame-retardant jumpsuit included? On Jul 6, 2009, at 6:32 AM, mattmob...@proweb.co.uk wrote: Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/Usb_steering_wheel.html I can't help laughing at the thought of one of these wheels hooked up to a plan 9 machine! think big http://playseats.biz/shop/cat038.php?n=1 Woohoo! I want one. :D I wouldn't need the flame retardant gear, my system isn't designed as idiotically as the starship Enterprise... -- Ethan Grammatikidis Those who are slower at parsing information must necessarily be faster at problem-solving.---End Message---
[9fans] my ts7200 port
found what is likely the latest version lying on my laptop from over two years ago and dumped it in sources in ts7200.tar I got excited by the beagleboard again ... ron
Re: [9fans] Guide to using Acme effectively?
On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:57:19 +0200 cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote: yeah... connecting terminals to warp energy plasma conduits seems to be a bad idea. Yeah, it's also a deeply wierd thing to do unless the terminals require at least several megawatts. O.o Each... I can't think of any reason for that. The displays may be print-quality (2000dpi) and the touch layer supposedly able to read fingerprints, but that's not far beyond current tech. Superluminal signalling signalling seems not to require much power as the tiny com badges feature delay-free communication at least as far as lunar orbit. Yes I've done this before. :) How far off topic are we now? Can we get away with carrying on? :) -- Ethan Grammatikidis Those who are slower at parsing information must necessarily be faster at problem-solving.
Re: [9fans] Guide to using Acme effectively?
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Ethan Grammatikidiseeke...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:57:19 +0200 cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote: yeah... connecting terminals to warp energy plasma conduits seems to be a bad idea. Yeah, it's also a deeply wierd thing to do unless the terminals require at least several megawatts. O.o Each... I can't think of any reason for that. The displays may be print-quality (2000dpi) and the touch layer supposedly able to read fingerprints, but that's not far beyond current tech. Superluminal signalling signalling seems not to require much power as the tiny com badges feature delay-free communication at least as far as lunar orbit. Yes I've done this before. :) How far off topic are we now? Can we get away with carrying on? :) I'm willing to invoke Godwin to prevent carrying on. John -- I've tried programming Ruby on Rails, following TechCrunch in my RSS reader, and drinking absinthe. It doesn't work. I'm going back to C, Hunter S. Thompson, and cheap whiskey. -- Ted Dziuba
Re: [9fans] Guide to using Acme effectively?
How far off topic are we now? Can we get away with carrying on? :) Not unless you're wearing Spock ears.
Re: [9fans] Guide to using Acme effectively?
On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:36:35 -0700 John Floren slawmas...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Ethan Grammatikidiseeke...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:57:19 +0200 cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote: yeah... connecting terminals to warp energy plasma conduits seems to be a bad idea. Yeah, it's also a deeply wierd thing to do unless the terminals require at least several megawatts. O.o Each... I can't think of any reason for that. The displays may be print-quality (2000dpi) and the touch layer supposedly able to read fingerprints, but that's not far beyond current tech. Superluminal signalling signalling seems not to require much power as the tiny com badges feature delay-free communication at least as far as lunar orbit. Yes I've done this before. :) How far off topic are we now? Can we get away with carrying on? :) I'm willing to invoke Godwin to prevent carrying on. Yeah, a couple of short steps from here and I'm sure I'd find myself arguing something highly controversial, (via political reasons for the vulnerable centralised computer architecture,) so I'll shut up now. John -- I've tried programming Ruby on Rails, following TechCrunch in my RSS reader, and drinking absinthe. It doesn't work. I'm going back to C, Hunter S. Thompson, and cheap whiskey. -- Ted Dziuba -- Ethan Grammatikidis Those who are slower at parsing information must necessarily be faster at problem-solving.
Re: [9fans] my ts7200 port
found what is likely the latest version lying on my laptop from over two years ago and dumped it in sources in ts7200.tar I got excited by the beagleboard again ... ron Thank you for remembering to find this, it will be of great help to me! Nick
Re: [9fans] Guide to using Acme effectively?
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Ethan Grammatikidiseeke...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:57:19 +0200 cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote: yeah... connecting terminals to warp energy plasma conduits seems to be a bad idea. Yeah, it's also a deeply wierd thing to do unless the terminals require at least several megawatts. O.o Each... And apprently they forgot how to make fuses by the late 2200s, because the consoles all explode when overloaded. I can't think of any reason for that. The displays may be print-quality (2000dpi) and the touch layer supposedly able to read fingerprints, but that's not far beyond current tech. Superluminal signalling signalling seems not to require much power as the tiny com badges feature delay-free communication at least as far as lunar orbit. Yes I've done this before. :) How far off topic are we now? Can we get away with carrying on? :) -- Ethan Grammatikidis Those who are slower at parsing information must necessarily be faster at problem-solving.
Re: [9fans] my ts7200 port
Thank you for remembering to find this, it will be of great help to me! which board/cpu are you targeting? I really like that beagleboard. ron The TS-7200 Technologic board, the exact board in your port, I believe. The intent is to use it to netboot other machines. Also of interest is the Technologic TS-7500, http://www.embeddedarm.com/products/board-detail.php?product=TS-7500 for a wifi point that can serve a HDD, and also wake up an attached larger machine and then attach itself as a usb device. (The machine has slave usb in addition to the host usb.) Thank you for the Beagleboard information. I have a need for driving a small vga lcd with a low-power arm board. The intent is to replace my ailing terminal, a thinkpad 600e. I had previously assumed the latest Gumstix board would serve this purpose, I believe which is more expensive. Nick
Re: [9fans] my ts7200 port
OK, be warned, the ether driver in that tree is not very good. I just ported the linux driver over and then ran out of time to do much more. ron
Re: [9fans] my ts7200 port
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 7:37 PM, ron minnichrminn...@gmail.com wrote: I just ported the linux driver I'm interested in how hard this is, and how it might be made easier.
[9fans] Fwd: FOSS Dev Camp, OS Camp, and more!
While it says best and brightest I'm going anyway. :-) Planning to be there for coreboot and plan 9. I've registered for those topics or whatever it is you do. Anyway I have tried to put those names on the board. Hope some of you can make it. ron -- Forwarded message -- From: Gareth J. Greenaway gar...@socallinuxexpo.org Date: Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:56 PM Subject: FOSS Dev Camp, OS Camp, and more! To: gar...@socallinuxexpo.org Greetings everyone! I hope that everyone is doing well and doing good things. I wanted to just touch base with everyone and let you know about some exciting things that I'm working on and would like everyone to be apart of. The basic idea behind FOSS Dev Camp is to gather developers of free open source software together to collaborate, share ideas, and generally improve FLOSS software across the board. This collaborate could be between developers of desktop environments, various distributions or even distribution package maintainers working with upstream developers. The event also gives a unique opportunity for users, allowing them to present bugs and features requests to developers in a in-person setting. The nature of this event is such that it can and should occur multiple times a year and multiple locations. Software development moves very quickly, especially free open source software development. My ultimate vision is that a FDC instance will occur before each and every FOSS related event around the world. To kick things off, the folks at both Open Source World (Don Marti - Open Source World) and Linux Con (Angela Brown and Amanda McPherson - Linux Foundation) have generously offered to host FOSS Dev Camp at their upcoming shows, Open Source World and Linux Con respectively. I have also been talking with Michael Tougeron who is organizing OS Camp being held at OSCON 2009 about incorporating some FDC ideas into OS Camp. If anyone is planning on attending any of these events, I would encourage you to also attend both FOSS Dev Camp OS Camp. The FDC web site[1] is online with information about the upcoming events as well as the wiki[2] for attendees to add what content they are interested in seeing and doing at the events. Please pass this information along to anyone who you think might be interested! Any questions, please do not hesitate to ask. Thanks! Gareth 1. http://www.fossdevcamp.org 2. http://www.fossdevcamp.org/wiki -- Gareth J. Greenaway g...@socallinuxexpo.org Voice - 877-831-2569 x130 Southern California Linux Expo http://www.socallinuxexpo.org
Re: [9fans] my ts7200 port
On Mon Jul 6 19:41:36 EDT 2009, jrm8...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 7:37 PM, ron minnichrminn...@gmail.com wrote: I just ported the linux driver I'm interested in how hard this is, and how it might be made easier. that depends. i've found that porting a driver or working backwards from an example is often harder than just writing a new driver. this is because the hard part is understanding how the hardware works, not in coding that knowledge up. and unfortunately, looking at a linux driver hasn't been very instructive to me. i'm sure one could create a compatability layer for certain driver types along the lines of ndiswrapper. but given the instability of linux internal interfaces, this might be finished about the same time as duke nukem forever. - erik
Re: [9fans] my ts7200 port
Thank you for the Beagleboard information. I have a need for driving a small vga lcd with a low-power arm board. The intent is to replace my ailing terminal, a thinkpad 600e. I had previously assumed the latest Gumstix board would serve this purpose, I believe which is more expensive. unfortunately x86 cannot be beat, if the object of the game is price/performance. i'm trying to work out the details on a non-intel fanless atom system. it appears that everything works well on this system; dual-ethernet, serial, sata, ata, usb. i haven't yet tried the on-board vga. it looks to be in the price range of the fancier gumstix motherboards. - erik
Re: [9fans] my ts7200 port
I'm curious When I first heard about the BeagleBoard a couple of years ago, my first thought was, terminal. However, then I heard that there was no builtin ethernet and one had to use a USB-Ethernet bridge. This seemed unsatisfactory to me, but was in keeping with the spirit of what the BeagleBoard folks were trying to do; has this been rectified? Is there now an onboard Ethernet device? Or is the driver in question for a USB ethernet thingy? usb ethernet thingee: http://beagleboard.org/ - erik
Re: [9fans] my ts7200 port
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 7:37 PM, ron minnichrminn...@gmail.com wrote: OK, be warned, the ether driver in that tree is not very good. I just ported the linux driver over and then ran out of time to do much more. I'm curious When I first heard about the BeagleBoard a couple of years ago, my first thought was, terminal. However, then I heard that there was no builtin ethernet and one had to use a USB-Ethernet bridge. This seemed unsatisfactory to me, but was in keeping with the spirit of what the BeagleBoard folks were trying to do; has this been rectified? Is there now an onboard Ethernet device? Or is the driver in question for a USB ethernet thingy? - Dan C.
[9fans] Ken FS: Ethernet Cards
Which Ethernet Cards function with Ken FS? I have only a few options, but I see a passing mention of one of them: fs/pc/etherdp83820.c:1089: /* case (0x103216)|0x1737: /* linksys eg1032 */ But, as can be seen, it's commented out. Has anyone tried Ken FS with this card, or know the reason it's commented? I don't want to face Best Buy's Worst Return Policy again... Thanks, ak
Re: [9fans] Ken FS: Ethernet Cards
Which Ethernet Cards function with Ken FS? I have only a few options, but I see a passing mention of one of them: fs/pc/etherdp83820.c:1089: /* case (0x103216)|0x1737: /* linksys eg1032 */ But, as can be seen, it's commented out. Has anyone tried Ken FS with this card, or know the reason it's commented? I don't want to face Best Buy's Worst Return Policy again... i ran ken's fs with an 8169 for years. i'd be happy to sell you one for the cost of shipping, or you can get your own for $20 or less. also most intel pci gigabit and almost every pci-e gigabit card works well. in addition, i've used the myricom 10gbe and the intel 82598 10gbe cards successfully with ken's fs. i believe that the 8169 driver is in the last version of ken's fs that was in the standard distribution. the 8169 driver and all the others may be found in my contrib version. - erik
