Re: [9fans] Octopus viewer?

2012-05-08 Thread kokamoto
I might have been not so specific.
I'll try once more.

I dispatched the command on the terminal's olive window:
!cp DSCN1549.jpg /mnt/view
Nothing happens.
Hoever, on the terminal's local window where octopus command
was dispatched, I see tow lines of messages of:
sh: plumbing write error: no matching plumb rule
view: cmd plumb /usr/octopus/tmp/view.2.DSCN1549.jpg   

Then, I hided the olive window, and inferno's shell window raised,
and examined ls -l /tmp on the inferno's sh window.
Here, I can find the file of view.2.DSCN1549.jpg.

However, lc /usr/octopus/tmp shows nothing but error.
/usr/okamoto/tmp, neither.
Then I think the arrorwd line above shows that the program tryed 
to do plumb the file on a wrong place, because of confusion of
namespaces.

Kenji

 /mnt/view is used for that. 
 open in olive will use it when in a
 terminal. 
 
 I tried this, but fails.




Re: [9fans] Octopus viewer?

2012-05-08 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros

Sorry, I missed the previous mail.
To avoid noise for 9fans, can you let me know off-list which OS are you using 
on the PC
and on the terminal and I'll try to help?

For what you say I think that your plumber might not be configured or
that something happen with the configuration file after view tried to plumb it.

In the worst case I can just send you my configuration files :)

On May 8, 2012, at 8:23 AM, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote:

 I might have been not so specific.
 I'll try once more.
 
 I dispatched the command on the terminal's olive window:
 !cp DSCN1549.jpg /mnt/view
 Nothing happens.
 Hoever, on the terminal's local window where octopus command
 was dispatched, I see tow lines of messages of:
 sh: plumbing write error: no matching plumb rule
 view: cmd plumb /usr/octopus/tmp/view.2.DSCN1549.jpg   
 
 Then, I hided the olive window, and inferno's shell window raised,
 and examined ls -l /tmp on the inferno's sh window.
 Here, I can find the file of view.2.DSCN1549.jpg.
 
 However, lc /usr/octopus/tmp shows nothing but error.
 /usr/okamoto/tmp, neither.
 Then I think the arrorwd line above shows that the program tryed 
 to do plumb the file on a wrong place, because of confusion of
 namespaces.
 
 Kenji
 
 /mnt/view is used for that. 
 open in olive will use it when in a
 terminal. 
 
 I tried this, but fails.
 




[9fans] Starting a blog on plan 9

2012-05-08 Thread IainWS
Hi there! I am trying to get involved more with plan 9 but having some
trouble finding resources on it that are all in one place. I have
started a blog so that I can add resources to make things more simple
for new users, and for the community in general. What do people think
about this?

You can find the link to this here:

http://plan9docs.wordpress.com/

Any feedback would be much appreciated.



Re: [9fans] Starting a blog on plan 9

2012-05-08 Thread Nicolas Bercher

On 08/05/2012 11:34, IainWS wrote:

Hi there! I am trying to get involved more with plan 9 but having some
trouble finding resources on it that are all in one place. I have
started a blog so that I can add resources to make things more simple
for new users, and for the community in general. What do people think
about this?

You can find the link to this here:

http://plan9docs.wordpress.com/

Any feedback would be much appreciated.


Its often useful to share your experience, I appreciate this.

Nicolas



Re: [9fans] Starting a blog on plan 9

2012-05-08 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Greetings.

On Tue, 08 May 2012 16:51:16 +0200 IainWS iai...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi there! I am trying to get involved more with plan 9 but having some
 trouble finding resources on it that are all in one place. I have
 started a blog so that I can add resources to make things more simple
 for new users, and for the community in general. What do people think
 about this?
 
 You can find the link to this here:
 
 http://plan9docs.wordpress.com/
 
 Any feedback would be much appreciated.

What are you using on Plan 9 to post to wordpress?


Sincerely,

Christoph Lohmann




Re: [9fans] Starting a blog on plan 9

2012-05-08 Thread Tassilo Philipp
I love it! Thanks for the work you put into this, hands-on experience is
always good.

 Hi there! I am trying to get involved more with plan 9 but having some
 trouble finding resources on it that are all in one place. I have
 started a blog so that I can add resources to make things more simple
 for new users, and for the community in general. What do people think
 about this?

 You can find the link to this here:

 http://plan9docs.wordpress.com/

 Any feedback would be much appreciated.







Re: [9fans] Starting a blog on plan 9

2012-05-08 Thread Anthony Sorace
This looks pretty well done - a good beginner's hands-on view to
getting to know the system.

In the interest of addressing the resources ... all in one place issue,
though, I would encourage you to also contribute to the wiki[1]. I'm
not suggesting everything you're putting on your blog belongs on the
wiki (the wiki isn't really good for the sort of narrative sense good
blogs give), but it is the best place for centralized resources. There
is a wiki page with instructions on how to edit it[2].

Anthony

[1] http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/plan_9_wiki/
[2] 
http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/acme_wiki_instructions/index.html



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Re: [9fans] Starting a blog on plan 9

2012-05-08 Thread John Floren
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 2:34 AM, IainWS iai...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi there! I am trying to get involved more with plan 9 but having some
 trouble finding resources on it that are all in one place. I have
 started a blog so that I can add resources to make things more simple
 for new users, and for the community in general. What do people think
 about this?

 You can find the link to this here:

 http://plan9docs.wordpress.com/

 Any feedback would be much appreciated.


Could you elaborate on your choice of using sam -d? It does make
things easier to translate into a textual blog format, without having
to worry about the windows. On the other hand, without the graphical
interface, sam is really just a super-enhanced ed(1), which is
certainly useful in itself but (in my opinion) not as convenient.

You might also consider making some youtube videos if you feel
confident enough; I made a few some years back and they were generally
well-received by the random youtubers who found them. Just please make
sure the things you're talking about are accurate--spreading bad
information about Plan 9 is worse than doing nothing :)


john



Re: [9fans] integer width on AMD64 (was: Re: AMD64 system)

2012-05-08 Thread Comeau At9Fans
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 6:36 AM, dexen deVries dexen.devr...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Monday 07 of May 2012 11:27:29 Charles Forsyth wrote:
  The MIPS, PowerPC and SPARC all grew to 64 bits from 32 bits, so 32 bit
  quantities
  (and usually but not always 16 bit and 8 bit quantities) have suitable
  instructions to fetch them.

 fwiw, back in my uni days we were using some old 64bit Solaris on Sun's
 UltraSparcs, and those had sizeof(int) == 8. i remember distinctly how my
 lame
 programs (developed on x86 and assuming sizeof(int) == 4) tripped on it.

 can't recall exact versions, but the CPUs were somewhere around 400MHz or
 so,
 and GCC was the compiler of choice.


I may be recalling this incorrectly, but I think you're right about the 8,
but didn't they also eventually bring it to 4 as well (or maybe I'm
thinking of Sun C)?

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Re: [9fans] integer width on AMD64 (was: Re: AMD64 system)

2012-05-08 Thread Comeau At9Fans
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:44 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:

 ...
processor bw  memory bw  == smaller integers faster
memory bw  processor bw  == natural integers faster

 (this is yet another reason that int_fast* are a half-baked idea.
 how does the compiler know this relation for the target machine
 ahead of time?) ...


I think that is all so, and I'm not necessarily trying to defend its
problems, but on the same note, similar assumptions are also make about
int, and it can be argued that int_fast* etc just become par for that
course, especially given that there may be command line arguments allowing
the user to give some of these things a poke so to speak.  And this is not
alone in those kinds of things (which are probably not even really
engineering compromises), for instance, take malloc.

-- 
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Comeau C/C++ ONLINE == http://www.comeaucomputing.com/tryitout
World Class Compilers:  Breathtaking C++, Amazing C99, Fabulous C90.
Comeau C/C++ with Dinkumware's Libraries... Have you tried it?


Re: [9fans] Starting a blog on plan 9

2012-05-08 Thread Yaroslav
 Could you elaborate on your choice of using sam -d?

Agree, 'sam -d' is not an entry-level choice.