Re: [9fans] 64-bit usb boot environment

2013-10-21 Thread john francis lee


 Object not found

The object /other/usbtest.bz2 does not exist on this server.

errstr: '/usr/web/ftp/other/usbtest.bz2' directory entry not found
uri host:
header host: ftp.quanstro.net
actual host: ladd.quanstro.net



On 10/21/2013 11:48 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:

this isn't perfect, or complete, but there is a minimal
64-bit and/or 386/pae usb boot environment here
http://ftp.quanstro.net/other/usbtest.bz2.  it's only 10mb,
so it should be a quick download.  the reason
for building this was to quickly debug a system that wouldn't
install, but it might be interesting to try out.

a few random notes and gotchas:

0.  with dhcp, one can get to get to the full distribution with:
ip/ipconfig  ndb/dns  9fs atom

1.  you will find the usb boot device @ /dev/sdu0, a loopback
device.

2.  there is a bug in kfs (patched in 9atom; patch submitted to
sources) to be aware of.  so be careful if using tools from
sources on 64-bit kernels.

3.  finally, there's (by plan 9 standards) quite a bit of acpi support
in the 64-bit kernel.  power events have been somewhat rashly
turned on, and may cause trouble.

as always, i'd be interested in any reports of success or failure.

- erik




--
john francis lee
246/3 Moo 22
Thanon Kaew Wai
Mueang Chiangrai 57000
Thailand

Hi there, NSA 'analysts', in-house and/or contracted.

Just reminding you that if you are reading this you are committing a crime, 
that you are felons mocking the 4th Amendment of our US Constitution ...

  The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and 
effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no 
warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and 
particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be 
seized.

... and that someday, really soon I hope, you're going to have to pay for your 
crimes.

You're breaking international laws as well, so if you're thinking of the 'I was 
only following orders!' 'defense' ... Please see Nuremberg Principle IV ...

  The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior 
does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice 
was in fact possible to him.

... and start exercising your moral choice. Look upon Thomas Andrews Drake and 
Edward Snowden as your exemplars and Patron Saints.



Re: [9fans] 64-bit usb boot environment

2013-10-21 Thread gdiaz
Hello

I think the correct url is:

http://newftp.9atom.org/other/usbtest.bz2

regards,
gabi


From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-boun...@9fans.net] On Behalf Of
john francis lee
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 1:07 AM
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
Subject: Re: [9fans] 64-bit usb boot environment

Object not found
The object /other/usbtest.bz2 does not exist on this server. 
errstr: '/usr/web/ftp/other/usbtest.bz2' directory entry not found
uri host: 
header host: ftp.quanstro.net
actual host: ladd.quanstro.net 


On 10/21/2013 11:48 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
this isn't perfect, or complete, but there is a minimal
64-bit and/or 386/pae usb boot environment here
http://ftp.quanstro.net/other/usbtest.bz2.  it's only 10mb,
so it should be a quick download.  the reason
for building this was to quickly debug a system that wouldn't
install, but it might be interesting to try out.

a few random notes and gotchas:

0.  with dhcp, one can get to get to the full distribution with:
ip/ipconfig  ndb/dns  9fs atom

1.  you will find the usb boot device @ /dev/sdu0, a loopback
device.

2.  there is a bug in kfs (patched in 9atom; patch submitted to
sources) to be aware of.  so be careful if using tools from
sources on 64-bit kernels.

3.  finally, there's (by plan 9 standards) quite a bit of acpi support
in the 64-bit kernel.  power events have been somewhat rashly
turned on, and may cause trouble.

as always, i'd be interested in any reports of success or failure.

- erik




-- 
john francis lee
246/3 Moo 22
Thanon Kaew Wai
Mueang Chiangrai 57000
Thailand

Hi there, NSA 'analysts', in-house and/or contracted. 

Just reminding you that if you are reading this you are committing a crime,
that you are felons mocking the 4th Amendment of our US Constitution ...

  The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by
oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched,
and the persons or things to be seized.

... and that someday, really soon I hope, you're going to have to pay for
your crimes.

You're breaking international laws as well, so if you're thinking of the 'I
was only following orders!' 'defense' ... Please see Nuremberg Principle IV
...

  The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a
superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law,
provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him.

... and start exercising your moral choice. Look upon Thomas Andrews Drake
and Edward Snowden as your exemplars and Patron Saints.




Re: [9fans] 64-bit usb boot environment

2013-10-21 Thread john francis lee

thanks.

On 10/22/2013 01:50 AM, Gabriel Diaz wrote:

Hello

I think the correct url is:

http://newftp.9atom.org/other/usbtest.bz2

regards,
gabi


From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-boun...@9fans.net] On Behalf Of
john francis lee
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 1:07 AM
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
Subject: Re: [9fans] 64-bit usb boot environment

Object not found
The object /other/usbtest.bz2 does not exist on this server.
errstr: '/usr/web/ftp/other/usbtest.bz2' directory entry not found
uri host:
header host: ftp.quanstro.net
actual host: ladd.quanstro.net


On 10/21/2013 11:48 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
this isn't perfect, or complete, but there is a minimal
64-bit and/or 386/pae usb boot environment here
http://ftp.quanstro.net/other/usbtest.bz2.  it's only 10mb,
so it should be a quick download.  the reason
for building this was to quickly debug a system that wouldn't
install, but it might be interesting to try out.

a few random notes and gotchas:

0.  with dhcp, one can get to get to the full distribution with:
ip/ipconfig  ndb/dns  9fs atom

1.  you will find the usb boot device @ /dev/sdu0, a loopback
device.

2.  there is a bug in kfs (patched in 9atom; patch submitted to
sources) to be aware of.  so be careful if using tools from
sources on 64-bit kernels.

3.  finally, there's (by plan 9 standards) quite a bit of acpi support
in the 64-bit kernel.  power events have been somewhat rashly
turned on, and may cause trouble.

as always, i'd be interested in any reports of success or failure.

- erik







--
john francis lee
246/3 Moo 22
Thanon Kaew Wai
Mueang Chiangrai 57000
Thailand

Hi there, NSA 'analysts', in-house and/or contracted.

Just reminding you that if you are reading this you are committing a crime, 
that you are felons mocking the 4th Amendment of our US Constitution ...

  The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and 
effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no 
warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and 
particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be 
seized.

... and that someday, really soon I hope, you're going to have to pay for your 
crimes.

You're breaking international laws as well, so if you're thinking of the 'I was 
only following orders!' 'defense' ... Please see Nuremberg Principle IV ...

  The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior 
does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice 
was in fact possible to him.

... and start exercising your moral choice. Look upon Thomas Andrews Drake and 
Edward Snowden as your exemplars and Patron Saints.




Re: [9fans] 64-bit usb boot environment

2013-10-21 Thread erik quanstrom
 I think the correct url is:
 
 http://newftp.9atom.org/other/usbtest.bz2

yes, thanks.  although just http://ftp.9atom.org/other/usbtest.bz2
was intended.

- erik



[9fans] 5l compilation

2013-10-21 Thread Steve Simon
I am trying to build for arm (for my PI) but I cannot
link the linker or the compiler

hugo% objtype=arm
hugo% cd /sys/src/cmd/5l
hugo% mk install
5l  -o 5.out asm.5 list.5 noop.5 obj.5 optab.5 pass.5 span.5 enam.5 compat.5 
elf.5
lock: undefined: ainc
(813)   BL  ,ainc+0(SB)
unlock: undefined: adec
(824)   BL  ,adec+0(SB)
lock: illegal combination BL 0 0 26
(813)   BL  ,ainc+0(SB)
unlock: illegal combination BL 0 0 26
(824)   BL  ,adec+0(SB)
lock: illegal combination BL 0 0 26
(813)   BL  ,ainc+0(SB)
unlock: illegal combination BL 0 0 26
(824)   BL  ,adec+0(SB)

What am I missing?

-Steve



Re: [9fans] 5l compilation

2013-10-21 Thread erik quanstrom
On Mon Oct 21 15:58:59 EDT 2013, st...@quintile.net wrote:
 I am trying to build for arm (for my PI) but I cannot
 link the linker or the compiler
 
 hugo% objtype=arm
 hugo% cd /sys/src/cmd/5l
 hugo% mk install
 5l  -o 5.out asm.5 list.5 noop.5 obj.5 optab.5 pass.5 span.5 enam.5 compat.5 
 elf.5
 lock: undefined: ainc
 (813) BL  ,ainc+0(SB)
 unlock: undefined: adec
 (824) BL  ,adec+0(SB)
 lock: illegal combination BL 0 0 26
 (813) BL  ,ainc+0(SB)
 unlock: illegal combination BL 0 0 26
 (824) BL  ,adec+0(SB)
 lock: illegal combination BL 0 0 26
 (813) BL  ,ainc+0(SB)
 unlock: illegal combination BL 0 0 26
 (824) BL  ,adec+0(SB)

evidently ainc and adec (likely from /sys/src/libc/arm/atom.s)
need to be rebuilt into libc.a

- erik



[9fans] sam resizing

2013-10-21 Thread Mark van Atten
I would find it useful if a sam window resize could be undone one
step, i.e. resize the window again to its size and position before the
last resize. Perhaps by clicking B1, just as clicking B3 enlarges it.

That would help keeping windows arranged a bit while enlarging one
after the other as I see fit for my work.

One can of course do without the visual clue of such an arrangement
and rely on just the file list in the menu. When there are many files,
there is no choice, and that works well enough. But when working on
only a handful, it might be convenient to have this additional
possibility by just one click.

Have people experimented with this, or at least entertained the same wish?

Mark.