Re: [9fans] pkg(1) and tbz2

2015-02-19 Thread Álvaro Jurado
I don't think it can work with pkg.
Note that it isn't a repo and has only 72 KB/s max uploading rate. So it
means that will be very slow and
none of that packages was set to work with pkg tool. In most cases they are
only sources.
And I think gcc bootstrap will be more complicated that a simple pkg/create.

Álvaro Jurado Cuevas

2015-02-19 12:01 GMT+01:00 Giacomo Tesio giac...@tesio.it:

 Hi, with the hope to port a (complex) tool to plan9 I've found this
 interesting repo with an updated ape + gcc + some other useful
 tools...

 http://marcus.biz.tm/files/

 I tried to set the pkgpath to that url but pkg/list only show the two
 packages named .tbz2 (lighthttp and m4).

 I noted that all files in http://9front.org/pkg/386/ are tbz.

 I'd like to know if (and how) I could install the tar.gz and tar.bz2
 packages from that repo or I have to manually download them, repackage
 as with pkg/create and then install from a local pkgpath.


 Thanks for your help!


 Giacomo




Re: [9fans] pkg(1) and tbz2

2015-02-19 Thread Álvaro Jurado
First, you need a gcc to compile gcc. There is a complete set here
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6YNt0aHfaA0am1oNGNSR3pXU1Uusp=sharing#list
(get
more recent), and a clue about configures here
http://marcus.biz.tm/files/configure.txt.
But I'm sure that 9fans list don't want any noise about this. So ask there
where you found that soft.


Álvaro Jurado Cuevas
colmenar.biz.tm

2015-02-19 12:30 GMT+01:00 Giacomo Tesio giac...@tesio.it:

 So have  I any hope to compile them?

 Giacomo

 2015-02-19 12:24 GMT+01:00 Álvaro Jurado elbingm...@gmail.com:
  I don't think it can work with pkg.
  Note that it isn't a repo and has only 72 KB/s max uploading rate. So
 it
  means that will be very slow and
  none of that packages was set to work with pkg tool. In most cases they
 are
  only sources.
  And I think gcc bootstrap will be more complicated that a simple
 pkg/create.
 
  Álvaro Jurado Cuevas
 
  2015-02-19 12:01 GMT+01:00 Giacomo Tesio giac...@tesio.it:
 
  Hi, with the hope to port a (complex) tool to plan9 I've found this
  interesting repo with an updated ape + gcc + some other useful
  tools...
 
  http://marcus.biz.tm/files/
 
  I tried to set the pkgpath to that url but pkg/list only show the two
  packages named .tbz2 (lighthttp and m4).
 
  I noted that all files in http://9front.org/pkg/386/ are tbz.
 
  I'd like to know if (and how) I could install the tar.gz and tar.bz2
  packages from that repo or I have to manually download them, repackage
  as with pkg/create and then install from a local pkgpath.
 
 
  Thanks for your help!
 
 
  Giacomo
 
 




[9fans] pkg(1) and tbz2

2015-02-19 Thread Giacomo Tesio
Hi, with the hope to port a (complex) tool to plan9 I've found this
interesting repo with an updated ape + gcc + some other useful
tools...

http://marcus.biz.tm/files/

I tried to set the pkgpath to that url but pkg/list only show the two
packages named .tbz2 (lighthttp and m4).

I noted that all files in http://9front.org/pkg/386/ are tbz.

I'd like to know if (and how) I could install the tar.gz and tar.bz2
packages from that repo or I have to manually download them, repackage
as with pkg/create and then install from a local pkgpath.


Thanks for your help!


Giacomo



Re: [9fans] pkg(1) and tbz2

2015-02-19 Thread Giacomo Tesio
Ops. Sorry I thought I was writing to 9front.

Thanks for your help!

Giacomo
Il 19/Feb/2015 12:49 Álvaro Jurado elbingm...@gmail.com ha scritto:

 First, you need a gcc to compile gcc. There is a complete set here
 https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B6YNt0aHfaA0am1oNGNSR3pXU1Uusp=sharing#list
  (get
 more recent), and a clue about configures here
 http://marcus.biz.tm/files/configure.txt.
 But I'm sure that 9fans list don't want any noise about this. So ask there
 where you found that soft.


 Álvaro Jurado Cuevas
 colmenar.biz.tm

 2015-02-19 12:30 GMT+01:00 Giacomo Tesio giac...@tesio.it:

 So have  I any hope to compile them?

 Giacomo

 2015-02-19 12:24 GMT+01:00 Álvaro Jurado elbingm...@gmail.com:
  I don't think it can work with pkg.
  Note that it isn't a repo and has only 72 KB/s max uploading rate. So
 it
  means that will be very slow and
  none of that packages was set to work with pkg tool. In most cases they
 are
  only sources.
  And I think gcc bootstrap will be more complicated that a simple
 pkg/create.
 
  Álvaro Jurado Cuevas
 
  2015-02-19 12:01 GMT+01:00 Giacomo Tesio giac...@tesio.it:
 
  Hi, with the hope to port a (complex) tool to plan9 I've found this
  interesting repo with an updated ape + gcc + some other useful
  tools...
 
  http://marcus.biz.tm/files/
 
  I tried to set the pkgpath to that url but pkg/list only show the two
  packages named .tbz2 (lighthttp and m4).
 
  I noted that all files in http://9front.org/pkg/386/ are tbz.
 
  I'd like to know if (and how) I could install the tar.gz and tar.bz2
  packages from that repo or I have to manually download them, repackage
  as with pkg/create and then install from a local pkgpath.
 
 
  Thanks for your help!
 
 
  Giacomo
 
 





Re: [9fans] r-pi usbotg error

2015-02-19 Thread Richard Miller
 oh, and remember that a *powered* hub is pretty much essential.

Just for the record, I use a classic IBM clicky Model M with a ps2/usb
adapter, and a very cheap generic chinese usb keyboard, both problem
free without any external hub.

Patch /n/sources/patch/maybe/usb-short-desc makes a lot more keyboards
work (especially some with hubs).

While working on the pi2, I have discovered one glitch which also seems
to be the case on the B+ but not the B or A: after rebooting with the
reboot command (as opposed to resetting the power or using ^t^tr)
the keyboard won't respond without being unplugged and replugged.
Perhaps the built-in 4-port hub on these pi models needs some sort
of reset which the 2-port hub doesn't.




[9fans] Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-02-19 Thread Anthony Sorace
(Resending (with tweaks) to get around moderation.)

Things are underway for this summer. The org application period is open, 
closing tomorrow, and ours is in, with a few tweaks pending. A few things to 
note, the first one could use lots of help:

• As always, the most important part of the application is the ideas page. This 
year's is at:

http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/gsoc-2015-ideas/index.html

I've just started updating it, and there's plenty to do. If you have an idea 
you'd be possibly willing to mentor or backup-mentor, *please* add it here. 
Provide enough detail that an interested student could get a decent idea of the 
scope of the project and what's involved. The more relevant information you can 
provide, the better. If the info for that project gets larger than a paragraph, 
it probably makes sense to create a wiki page dedicated to the idea; see the 
idea Replace language for wikifs for a good example of that. If the wiki is a 
challenge, email me what the entry should be and I'll take care of it.

In the GSoC feedback sessions every year, this page is always the main thing 
used to separate various otherwise-promising orgs out. Take a look.

• If you travel in circles with students, start telling them about the program 
and why they should want to work with us. You might point them at our Student 
Expectations, at

http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/GSoC_Student_Expectations/index.html
I'm reviewing those, but I don't expect significant changes.

• If you're an established community member, consider whether you'd be 
interested in mentoring. Take a look at our Mentor's Expectations at

http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/GSoC_Mentor_Expectations/index.html
and feel free to ask me or anyone else who's participated in the past questions 
- I'm sure everyone would be willing to talk.

• Prior-year mentors, it would be particularly helpful if you could take a look 
at those two previous pages and let me know (via the plan9-gsoc group 
preferably, or off-list) if you think anything needs changing. I think these 
expectations (which are more or less the same as the past 2-3 years, with small 
refinements) have served us pretty well, but would obviously be interested in 
other opinions.

• Also, if you're not on them and would like to contribute actively, we have 
two relevant Google Groups worth joining: plan9-gsoc and plan9-gsoc-mentors. 
The mentor's list is for mentors, backup mentors, and similar folks helping 
out; the other list is for anyone interested in helping out or following along 
on the GSoC-specific discussions more closely.

Let me know if you have any other questions. If you have real-time questions, 
I'm in #plan9 and #plan9-gsoc most of the time.
Anthony


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Re: [9fans] r-pi usbotg error

2015-02-19 Thread sstallion
 oh, and remember that a *powered* hub is pretty much essential.
 
 Just for the record, I use a classic IBM clicky Model M with a ps2/usb
 adapter, and a very cheap generic chinese usb keyboard, both problem
 free without any external hub.
 
 Patch /n/sources/patch/maybe/usb-short-desc makes a lot more keyboards
 work (especially some with hubs).

Unfortunately I didn't see any change with usb-short-desc applied, though 
switching to the Lenovo did the trick. I'm very happy with how the new terminal 
is shaping up so far.

Thanks!

Steve