Re: [9fans] sources down

2018-12-29 Thread hiro
Does somebody know if Russ still reads this list?
I would be very interested if he still has the annotations...



Re: [9fans] Plan 9 64-bit?

2018-12-29 Thread David du Colombier
> Would there be any way to get access to the sources for Nix Mark IV?

Nix Mark IV is available here: http://lsub.org/ls/nix.html

-- 
David du Colombier



Re: [9fans] Plan 9 64-bit?

2018-12-29 Thread Mayuresh Kathe

Would there be any way to get access to the sources for Nix Mark IV?

On 2018-12-29 06:42 PM, Gorka Guardiola wrote:

Not that I know of. People moved on to other projects afaik.

On Sat, Dec 29, 2018, 14:09 Mayuresh Kathe 
Yes, that's the one, thanks for that pointer Gorka, many thanks
indeed.
Anyone still working on "Nix Mark IV"?

On 2018-12-29 06:26 PM, Gorka Guardiola wrote:

Is it nix you are asking about?http://lsub.org/ls/nix.html [1] [1]

On Sat, Dec 29, 2018, 13:44 Mayuresh Kathe 
wrote:



I can't remember the name of the person, but he used to work for

a

European research lab and had made a 64-bit version of an

operating

system derived from Plan 9. That operating system had some
interesting
features, one of which was the ability to isolate a process on a
single
core of a CPU.

Does anyone have more details about that operating system? Or

would

anyone know the name of that person?
It would be nice to work with that operating system and I would

be

willing to pay a license fee to use it if granted access to the
source
for personal study.

Thanks,

~Mayuresh





Re: [9fans] sources down

2018-12-29 Thread David du Colombier
> i have wondered if it would be possible to apply the historic plan9 
> kernel diffs and regenerate these ancient kernels.

The diff files are ed scripts generated with "diff -e", so it should be
possible to regenerate the original files with a bit of scripting.

-- 
David du Colombier



Re: [9fans] Plan 9 64-bit?

2018-12-29 Thread Gorka Guardiola
Not that I know of. People moved on to other projects afaik.

On Sat, Dec 29, 2018, 14:09 Mayuresh Kathe  Yes, that's the one, thanks for that pointer Gorka, many thanks indeed.
> Anyone still working on "Nix Mark IV"?
>
> On 2018-12-29 06:26 PM, Gorka Guardiola wrote:
> > Is it nix you are asking about?http://lsub.org/ls/nix.html [1]
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 29, 2018, 13:44 Mayuresh Kathe  >
> >> I can't remember the name of the person, but he used to work for a
> >> European research lab and had made a 64-bit version of an operating
> >> system derived from Plan 9. That operating system had some
> >> interesting
> >> features, one of which was the ability to isolate a process on a
> >> single
> >> core of a CPU.
> >>
> >> Does anyone have more details about that operating system? Or would
> >> anyone know the name of that person?
> >> It would be nice to work with that operating system and I would be
> >> willing to pay a license fee to use it if granted access to the
> >> source
> >> for personal study.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> ~Mayuresh
>
>
>


Re: [9fans] Plan 9 64-bit?

2018-12-29 Thread Mayuresh Kathe

Yes, that's the one, thanks for that pointer Gorka, many thanks indeed.
Anyone still working on "Nix Mark IV"?

On 2018-12-29 06:26 PM, Gorka Guardiola wrote:

Is it nix you are asking about?http://lsub.org/ls/nix.html [1]

On Sat, Dec 29, 2018, 13:44 Mayuresh Kathe 
I can't remember the name of the person, but he used to work for a
European research lab and had made a 64-bit version of an operating
system derived from Plan 9. That operating system had some
interesting
features, one of which was the ability to isolate a process on a
single
core of a CPU.

Does anyone have more details about that operating system? Or would
anyone know the name of that person?
It would be nice to work with that operating system and I would be
willing to pay a license fee to use it if granted access to the
source
for personal study.

Thanks,

~Mayuresh






Re: [9fans] Plan 9 64-bit?

2018-12-29 Thread Gorka Guardiola
Is it nix you are asking about?
http://lsub.org/ls/nix.html

On Sat, Dec 29, 2018, 13:44 Mayuresh Kathe  I can't remember the name of the person, but he used to work for a
> European research lab and had made a 64-bit version of an operating
> system derived from Plan 9. That operating system had some interesting
> features, one of which was the ability to isolate a process on a single
> core of a CPU.
>
> Does anyone have more details about that operating system? Or would
> anyone know the name of that person?
> It would be nice to work with that operating system and I would be
> willing to pay a license fee to use it if granted access to the source
> for personal study.
>
> Thanks,
>
> ~Mayuresh
>
>
>


[9fans] Plan 9 64-bit?

2018-12-29 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
I can't remember the name of the person, but he used to work for a 
European research lab and had made a 64-bit version of an operating 
system derived from Plan 9. That operating system had some interesting 
features, one of which was the ability to isolate a process on a single 
core of a CPU.


Does anyone have more details about that operating system? Or would 
anyone know the name of that person?
It would be nice to work with that operating system and I would be 
willing to pay a license fee to use it if granted access to the source 
for personal study.


Thanks,

~Mayuresh




Re: [9fans] sources down

2018-12-29 Thread Steve Simon
i have wondered if it would be possible to apply the historic plan9 kernel 
diffs and regenerate these ancient kernels.

no real use but it would be interesting to see the code in its context.

> On 29 Dec 2018, at 10:05 am, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> after checking the git mirror, it turns out the change i'm interested
> in must have happened before it's beginning at 2002.
> 
>> On 12/28/18, Steve Simon  wrote:
>> i have a copy if the diffs russ’s web pages used, though i dont think the
>> annotations are included. it lived on russ’s server i think, not the labs
>> one.
> 
> i heard from Fish also that this is available, but I'm still waiting
> in case somebody might still pop up with the annotations...




Re: [9fans] sources down

2018-12-29 Thread hiro
after checking the git mirror, it turns out the change i'm interested
in must have happened before it's beginning at 2002.

On 12/28/18, Steve Simon  wrote:
> i have a copy if the diffs russ’s web pages used, though i dont think the
> annotations are included. it lived on russ’s server i think, not the labs
> one.

i heard from Fish also that this is available, but I'm still waiting
in case somebody might still pop up with the annotations...



Re: [9fans] sources down

2018-12-29 Thread hiro
> In all seriousness, it's not too difficult to integrate in. I used Russ'
> letsencrypt package before this one. Both have  been straight forward.
> There are samples too.

yeah, but with dp9ik around nowadays why not just use 9p access for
the really inclined.
somebody who doesn't even run plan9 might not need the extra security
certificate vouched for by the president (of some unstable country of
your chosing).

please don't concentrate on the web interface's web security so much,
i just want the data some way or another - primarily without web
involvement.



Re: [9fans] sources down

2018-12-29 Thread hiro
hitler jokes work to relativize anything. but eekee's point was valid.

On 12/28/18, Skip Tavakkolian  wrote:
> It's all relative. For example, compared to the current President of the
> United States, this API is extremely stable :)
>
> On Fri, Dec 28, 2018, 11:58 AM Ethan Gardener 
>> On Fri, Dec 28, 2018, at 7:43 PM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
>> > while I'm thinking about it, is it possible for 9legacy.org to use
>> letsencrypt?   Go's acme/autocert package (
>> golang.org/x/crypto/acme/autocert) works great.
>>
>> "This package is a work in progress and makes no API stability promises."
>>
>>
>



Re: [9fans] sources down

2018-12-29 Thread Lucio De Re
On 12/29/18, Ethan Gardener  wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 29, 2018, at 3:58 AM, Lucio De Re wrote:
>> Personally, I think HTTPS is overrated, or has just made itself
>> overrated.
>
> I've heard from multiple sources that this kind of single-ended
> authorization isn't worth much, but I'm not so sure.  My current ISP
> re-encrypts all data from imgur with their own certificate, which means I
> know the connection is being interfered with.
>
I like to think that I'm as sharp a security specialist as I'm likely
to encounter, despite living in a bit of a backwater.

My ISP (one of, thankfully) managed to arrange a certified X.509
certificate for a domain I have absolute control over. Since then, the
web site has had its ups and down, last of which (I really can't raise
enough anger to take them on) they won't let me install the
certificate myself: it needs root privileges and they won't grant them
to a user.

Thing is, the web site has no need whatever for user security, we hold
no private information,

Lucio.

PS: That was a bit O.T. But I bet I could run the site on a Plan 9 server...



Re: [9fans] sources down

2018-12-29 Thread Ethan Gardener
On Sat, Dec 29, 2018, at 3:58 AM, Lucio De Re wrote:
> Personally, I think HTTPS is overrated, or has just made itself overrated.

I've heard from multiple sources that this kind of single-ended authorization 
isn't worth much, but I'm not so sure.  My current ISP re-encrypts all data 
from imgur with their own certificate, which means I know the connection is 
being interfered with.  



Re: [9fans] sources down

2018-12-29 Thread Ethan Gardener
Oh, when you put it that way, I can't disagree! :D


On Fri, Dec 28, 2018, at 9:15 PM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
> It's all relative. For example, compared to the current President of
> the United States, this API is extremely stable :)> 
> On Fri, Dec 28, 2018, 11:58 AM Ethan Gardener
> > On Fri, Dec 28, 2018, at 7:43 PM, Skip 
> Tavakkolian wrote:
>>  > while I'm thinking about it, is it possible for 9legacy.org to use
>>  > letsencrypt?   Go's acme/autocert package
>>  > (golang.org/x/crypto/acme/autocert) works great.>> 
>>  "This package is a work in progress and makes no API stability
>>  promises.">> 


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