Re: [9fans] Object Icon, drawterm, riox

2020-01-27 Thread Rodrigo G . López
they don't.

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020, 11:00 PM Anthony Sorace  wrote:

> I get why someone might want those rio changes, even if they're not for me
> (although some I'm curious about). But can anyone help me understand why
> what they've done to drawterm is desirable? I can't say that resizing the
> window to change the scale factor has ever seemed like something I'd want.
> How do they use this?
>
> > On Jan 4, 2020, at 3:04 , Mark van Atten  wrote:
> >
> > For whomever may find this of interest -- the Object Icon project,
> > mentioned on this list in passing in August 2018, also caters to Plan
> > 9:
> >
> > The Object Icon object-oriented programming language:
> > http://objecticon.sourceforge.net/
> >
> > Of wider use may be its version of drawterm
> > http://objecticon.sourceforge.net/Drawterm.html
> > and its (much) modified rio
> > http://objecticon.sourceforge.net/Riox.html
> >
> > Mark.

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Re: [9fans] Object Icon, drawterm, riox

2020-01-27 Thread Anthony Sorace
I get why someone might want those rio changes, even if they're not for me 
(although some I'm curious about). But can anyone help me understand why what 
they've done to drawterm is desirable? I can't say that resizing the window to 
change the scale factor has ever seemed like something I'd want. How do they 
use this?

> On Jan 4, 2020, at 3:04 , Mark van Atten  wrote:
> 
> For whomever may find this of interest -- the Object Icon project,
> mentioned on this list in passing in August 2018, also caters to Plan
> 9:
> 
> The Object Icon object-oriented programming language:
> http://objecticon.sourceforge.net/
> 
> Of wider use may be its version of drawterm
> http://objecticon.sourceforge.net/Drawterm.html
> and its (much) modified rio
> http://objecticon.sourceforge.net/Riox.html
> 
> Mark.

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Re: [9fans] Getting git9 -- moved to github.

2020-01-27 Thread Sergey Zhilkin
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вс, 19 янв. 2020 г. в 20:04, :

> I realized that a few people were still running the hg repo.
> It's buggy and no longer maintained (and now, gone). Git9 is
> self-hosting on github now.
> 
> To bootstrap git9:
> 
> hget https://github.com/oridb/git9/archive/master.tar.gz >
> git9-master.tar.gz
> tar xzf git9-master.tar.gz
> cd git9-master
> mk install
> 
> If you want to get the bugfixes and new features
> that will eventually show up (commit grafting,
> https clone, stable ids on git/import, ...):
> 
> git/clone git://github.com/oridb/git9
> cd git9
> mk install
> 
> And then update occasionally with
> 
> git/pull && mk install
> 


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Re: [9fans] factotum vs. SASL+TLS+applications

2020-01-27 Thread Ori Bernstein
> The following is all hypothetical.  I'm curious about how people
> think auth(2)/factotum(4) could be adapted to support the use
> case ...
> 
> factotum was intended to handle the authentication dance on behalf
> of network apps. But in the case of things like IMAP, it really
> just stores the client's login/password, and provides a bit of
> helper glue for CRAM-MD5. Similarly for ftpfs.
> 
> I'm curious why upasfs and ftpfs are outliers in only using factotum
> as a credential store, but leaving the actual authentication protocol
> dance in the clients/servers.  The "Security" paper (/sys/doc/auth)
> strongly hints that these parts of the application protocols were
> meant to be outsourced to factotum.  Section 2.2 in particular
> argues that the auth modules should be implemented once in factotum,
> for consumption by the rest of the system.

Probably simple expediency.
 
> 
>
> To require a specific SASL mechanism, add "sasl=scram-md5" (using
> "sasl=*" as a default if you need to fall back for some reason).

This all sounds fairly reasonable. I think that patches to this effect
would be worth integrating.

> Of course all of this needs to be glued into auth(2) in a way that
> doesn't destroy the existing API.  But it does need to handle
> factotum replacing the underlying connection to the client/server
> with one that has been pushtls()ed by factotum itself.

I'm not sure how factotum can have this action at a distance. I think
the pushtls is stuck in the client itself -- though, the auth code can
probably return the parameters needed for this.

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