Re: [9fans] Purism laptops

2016-11-12 Thread Andrés Domínguez 
2016-11-11 19:51 GMT+01:00 James A. Robinson :
> Have folks seen https://puri.sm/ ?  Their description of how they are trying
> to put together "open" hardware (not 100% there yet)

Do they really make open hardware? In what aspect is their hardware
more open than any other laptop?

Andrés

 makes me wonder if
> it'd be open enough w/re to hardware specs to make it a target for Plan 9
> porting/support.
>
> Jim
>

Re: [9fans] Distros

2016-09-11 Thread Andrés Domínguez 
2016-09-11 19:50 GMT+02:00  :
> he wrote *AMD*64 not *ARM*64 ;-)

Does plan9 on the rpi run armv8? I thought it was armv7 even on the rpi3.

Andrés

Re: [9fans] Distros

2016-09-11 Thread Andrés Domínguez 
2016-09-11 19:48 GMT+02:00 Kurt H Maier <k...@sciops.net>:
> On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 07:39:31PM +0200, Andrés Domínguez wrote:
>> 2016-09-11 18:40 GMT+02:00 Benjamin Huntsman 
>> <bhunts...@mail2.cu-portland.edu>:
>> > with amd64 support?
>>
>> the rpi image
>
> I predict suffering.

I understood that he wanted to start with a distribution with amd64
support, not to start running it on amd64. Most, if not all, rpi
sources has been integrated into bell labs' distribution. It's not
clear to me if he wants the distribution with better amd64 support or
the most used/developed/supported with amd64 support (from the
question looks more the later).

Andrés

Re: [9fans] Distros

2016-09-11 Thread Andrés Domínguez 
2016-09-11 18:40 GMT+02:00 Benjamin Huntsman :
> Hi!
>
>What would be the best place to start in, looking for the most
> current/widely-used distribution with amd64 support?  9front?  9atom?
> Other?

I would bet that the best distribution to start working with out of
the box is the rpi image by Richard Miller. It's bell labs' based,
afaik, but probably the most active fork is 9front (or maybe there is
no fork).

Andrés

Re: [9fans] thank you

2015-06-27 Thread Andrés Domínguez 
2015-06-27 12:41 GMT+02:00 Antonio Barrones antonio@gmail.com:
 The First Unix port was made in 1977 by Richard Miller in the
 Computing Science Department at the University of Wollongong.
 http://www.uow.edu.au/content/groups/public/@web/@inf/@scsse/documents/doc/uow103747.pdf
 https://www.usenix.org/legacy/publications/library/proceedings/usenix98/invited_talks/miller.ps

 I think that he is the same Richard Miller who did the Plan9 port to
 Raspberry Pi, right or am I wrong?

Right.

Andrés

[9fans] 3d Glenda

2015-05-14 Thread Andrés Domínguez 
Does anyone have a 3d model of Glenda?

Thanks,
Andrés

Re: [9fans] [Off topic] Raspberry Pi 2 gets the evil OS

2015-02-04 Thread Andrés Domínguez 
2015-02-04 8:41 GMT+01:00 arn...@skeeve.com:

 Raspberry Pi 2 gets the evil OS

Raspberry Pi has always supported Linux.

[9fans] Teg2 port on qemu

2014-12-22 Thread Andrés Domínguez 
Has someone run successfully the teg2 port on qemu-system-arm?

Andrés

Re: [9fans] Teg2 port on qemu

2014-12-22 Thread Andrés Domínguez 
2014-12-23 0:39 GMT+01:00 minux minux...@gmail.com:


 On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Andrés Domínguez andres...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Has someone run successfully the teg2 port on qemu-system-arm?

 I don't think qemu-system-arm supports the tegra2 platform.


I know that it doesn't support tegra2, but it supports cortex-a9 mp, so I
was dreaming (without
much hope) that someone had run the teg2 port at some level, at least
booting it with
console support.

Re: [9fans] Plan 9/ARM port wishlist: ODROID-U3 or XU3

2014-11-20 Thread Andrés Domínguez 
2014-11-20 23:13 GMT+01:00 Joshua Boyd jdb...@jdboyd.net:

 On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 11:22:09AM -0800, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
  they're well made, priced right, and fast (e.g. compiling Go on linux on
  rpi is *very* slow when compared with older odroid-u2 with the same
 config).

 If I may come out of lurking for a suggestion, what about the
 OLinuXino Allwinner based family family (prices from 30EUR to 65EUR)?


I got a couple of olinuxino boards today. I will have some free time, but I
don't
think that I'm able to do the port alone. I don't know yet enough about
olinuxino
or allwinner.

Andrés

[9fans] Vanilla Plan 9 or one of the flavors?

2014-01-07 Thread Andrés Domínguez 
El lunes, 6 de enero de 2014, Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca escribió:

 But realistically, for how much longer?  The  past year has shown the
love is gone.  I haven't been able to run a labs distribution on physical
hardware for years.  Nor on virtual hardware.  It's time to choose a new
king ...

The Raspberry Pi is well supported and AFAIK changes are integrated in the
Labs distribution (thanks Richard). With x86 do as with any other OS, look
what's supported and buy it.

Andres

Re: [9fans] Raspberry 9

2013-04-23 Thread Andrés Domínguez 
I'm very happy with Miller's port, it's the easiest way to try plan9 on
real hardware. I'm planning to port my Go program to Go on plan9
on the pi.

I also have a lot of USB errors with the keyboard connected to a
powered hub (missing some key events because the errors), but
it works plugging it directly to the rpi. Maybe ultracheap keyboard's
fault.


2013/4/23 Michael Stevens mstev...@etla.org

 On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 05:13:52PM -0400, OrangeCalx01 wrote:
  I've seen 9 running on a raspberry pi, and now am really interested in
  buying a model A to run it on (maybe B to have some fun with 9P). But
  before I jump the gun, are there any known brick walls associated with
  this set up? Like needing two usb instead of a hub? Thanks!

 I've started trying this this week, and it works, but I get a lot of USB
 errors from my keyboard. However so far the keyboard works.

 I haven't had time to do much beyond ooh, it boots.

 Michael

Re: [9fans] iwp9

2012-11-19 Thread Andrés Domínguez 
2012/11/19 Bence Fábián beg...@gmail.com:
 I wonder if there's an Athens in the country Georgia.
 That would make the confusion whole.

Nearly all Athens are in the United States (wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athens#Other_locations_named_after_Athens
Greeks should be proud being so famous. Without sign of Athens in
Near East's Georgia.

This days GPS coordinates are a must ;-).

Andrés

Re: [9fans] c++

2012-11-19 Thread Andrés Domínguez 
2012/11/19 Steve Simon st...@quintile.net:
 I need to learn c++ for work - people have strong opinions on
 languages I know, and not everyone likes c++ but its a requirment for me.

C++ Annotations is good for C programers, in my opinion.
http://www.icce.rug.nl/documents/cplusplus/

 I really want to develop a good sence of c++ style, I learnt C at the feet of
 KR and then the plan9 sourcecode so I learnt how to write clean elegant code
 (I think :-). The problem I am finding is there are many c++ styles and I have
 yet to find a clean and elegant one.

I don't think that an elegant c++ style exists, not even a usual c++
subset. Every
project uses his own c++ subsets and styles, so I think that adapting to every
project style is the key.

Andrés

Re: [9fans] iwp9

2012-11-19 Thread Andrés Domínguez 
2012/11/19 Andrés Domínguez andres...@gmail.com:
 Without sign of Athens in
 Near East's Georgia.

Maybe I was wrong http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontic_Athens.

Andrés

Re: [9fans] nix at lsub

2012-04-16 Thread Andrés Domínguez 
2012/4/16 Noah Evans noah.ev...@gmail.com:
 There's a bit of drama going on right now. Here's what I wrote in a
 private mail to Steve Simon:

 I don't think anybody really liked hg from a technical standpoint.

 There were two reasons behind choosing it:

I thoght the disagreement was because a stupid thing like coding style,
glad to know it's something important like code management.

You cannot be serious!

Andrés

Re: [9fans] Plan 9/plan9port coding conventions

2012-01-13 Thread Andrés Domínguez 
2012/1/11  smi...@icebubble.org:

 (1) For example, P9 code tends to use variable names like i and j,
 where I would typically use self-documenting variable names like row
 and col.  Variable names like row and col are much easier to
 search for (i.e., with a right-click), too.  Names like i and j
 (which occur in many identifiers) will generate many false positives.

I haven't written code for plan9, so this is my own taste about plan9
coding style.

for ( i=0; i  nrows; i++);

or

for (i=firstrow; i = lastrow; i++);

i is only an iterator variable, as used in the sigma notation for summation.
What has meaning to me is the condition or initialization variable (nrows,
firstrow, lastrow...)

 (2) In functions, variables are often declared together in one
 paragraph, and then, later, initialized in another paragraph, as in:

  int i;
  char *s;

  /* stuff */

  i = 0;
  s = nil;

This style looks standard.


Andrés

Re: [9fans] 9vx instability

2011-11-27 Thread Andrés Domínguez 
2011/11/27 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:

 I suspect one of the reasons why 9front exists is because some people
 in the Plan 9 community this days seem to take themselves and the
 whole project a bit too seriously.

 Which is kind of weird for a project called after an Ed Wood film.

 uriel, what you say would make sense if the jokes didn't include putting
 mein kampf in /lib.

I thought this was a disgusting joke by Eric. Sorry Eric!

Andrés

Re: [9fans] lowest valid stack address

2009-09-02 Thread Andrés Domínguez 
2009/9/2 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:

 aside: from the overcommit vm discussion.
 in http://9fans.net/archive/2000/06/634 rob
 says that plan 9 doesn't overcommit vm.
 what's the history here?

Exactly two years ago you started a thread about
memory overcommit. If I remember correctly, plan9
overcommits vm. Few weeks later the Go program
from gorka crashed while allocating the stack, maybe
an overcommiting check was added, probably gorka
knows.

Andrés

Re: [9fans] Plan9 as an everyday OS

2009-07-10 Thread Andrés Domínguez 
2009/7/10 Lorenzo Bolla lbo...@gmail.com:
 Hi all,
 I've just installed (with few difficulties, I must admit) a fresh Plan9 on
 my Dell Inspiron laptop.
 I played with it and I'd really like to study it and get used to it.
 Ideally, I would like to make it my everyday OS, to do all the nice stuff
 you can do with a computer (a part from work and study), like browsing the
 web, watching movies and so on...
 Is anyone using it for such things?
 Is there, for example, a decent browser for Plan9 (I haven't found any)?

8c

 Or a music/movie player?

8c

But the cold startup is a little bit slower than wmp or ie, have to
do some coding first.

If you are looking for something done:

Google - list of plan 9 applications - click I'm Feeling Lucky

Probably you will be more happy with Linux, running Plan9 on
virtual machine.

Andrés

Re: [9fans] Help for home user discovering Plan 9

2009-04-14 Thread Andrés Domínguez 
2009/4/14 Jim Habegger jimhabeg...@gmail.com:
 My wireless card is not listed in Plan9.ini. Does that mean there's no
 way for me to connect with that card?

The easy way is to run Plan9 inside a virtual machine like
qemu on Linux or Windows.

Andrés

Re: [9fans] sad commentary

2008-07-01 Thread Andrés Domínguez 
2008/7/1 Federico G. Benavento [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 eris,

 stop trolling and sending apples to the parties you're not invited.

Eris _Discordia_, good nick for a troll:

discordia: f discord

--
Andrés