Re: [9fans] Plan9 and VMs

2016-09-01 Thread Julius Schmidt
9front works fine in vmware. I've never had a problem (including a very 
recent install at work).

How exactly does it fail in your case?

aiju

On Thu, 1 Sep 2016, Adriano Verardo wrote:


In the last two years I've very little used Plan9.
All appls I made for clients work, solved all problem thanks to 9fans help, 
clients don't ask for improvements, ...


Now I must install Plan9 in a VM. I'm testing VMware, but it is not a 
constraint.

The Bell distro work fine, all others I tried fail during install.
And, worse than this, I see just now that Bell non longer support Plan9 since 
Jan 2015.


So, what's the best Win7-32/64 VM product for Plan9 ? What Plan9 ?

Thanks in advance







Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

2016-09-01 Thread Julius Schmidt

Personally, I don't use Plan9, or even p9p, to get stuff done. I just like
to look at the code from time to time. I'm with Carmack on Plan9 circa 1997:
" It has an achingly elegant internal structure, but a user interface that
has been asleep for the past decade." Add a couple of decades to that.


Two more decades of what?

Unless you count mobile devices, UIs in 2016 still function largely like
Windows 95.
Incremental improvements, but no major innovations.
Some bad mistakes (ribbons...).

The best part is web interfaces, which continue to poorly imitate what
Win95 could do 20 years ago.

I'd rather stick to rio.

aiju



[9fans] aijuboard

2015-04-29 Thread Julius Schmidt
I am currently collecting funds for a production run of a Zynq based board 
built specifically with Plan 9 in mind. It has a dual-core ARM CPU and a 
Xilinx FPGA. We are running 9front, but labs and 9atom would likely work 
fine too.


You can preorder it for $500, buy a glenda or aijuboard t-shirt for $60 or 
just donate any amount you want.


The campaign will be running for 21 more days and we're currently $2300 
short. Any contribution would be greatly appreciated.


https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/aijuboard

-- aiju



[9fans] Compiler bug

2014-05-30 Thread Julius Schmidt
I have found what I believe to be a compiler bug: Comparing an int to a 
u16int causes the int to be cast to unsigned int, instead of the u16int 
being promoted to int and then compared (as I would argue the C89 
standard specifies).

As a result -1  u is false for any u16int u. Or is this intended behaviour?

I have verified that 8c exhibits the bug, but have not checked the other 
compilers.

gcc does not seem to have this bug.

Julius Schmidt



Re: [9fans] new-topic: typographical interface

2012-10-18 Thread Julius Schmidt

the solution is
to just stop worrying and love
the bitmap font because there
are more important things
in life.
such as not inserting spurious
new lines
in mailing list posts.

On Thu, 18 Oct 2012, Albert Skye wrote:


erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:


The question is rather: What killed the Plan 9 desktop?


poor special effects?


it's just resting!
but maybe it should die

yes
no modern GUI, c.
(and I'm grateful for that! :)

but Plan 9 (and other software)
can be much more useful by exposition
within a *typographical interface*
i.e.,
an interface
informed by typographical imperative[1]
(to increase signal
decrease noise)
in
arranging streams
(of text/numbers/symbols/images
outputs and inputs)
using established patterns
of typographical technology
for
improving the interface/tools
between process and user

to make it
natural/immediate/effortless

[1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elements_of_Typographic_Style






[9fans] Uriel

2012-10-14 Thread Julius Schmidt

I am very sorry to inform you that uriel has passed away recently.

He will be missed.



Re: [9fans] pcc limitation?

2010-11-08 Thread Julius Schmidt




Hardware programming is fun. Side effects include nausea and vomiting.


you're doing it wrong.

:-)

- erik




Just run Plan 9 on the hardware. Who wanted to create Plan 9 from 8-bit
space? Let's do it for AVR.
Then mount LEDs and the like...

aiju



Re: [9fans] Fifth Edition

2010-10-20 Thread Julius Schmidt

On 20 October 2010 11:44, Mark Tuson markfptu...@gmail.com wrote:

On Oct 19, 7:06 pm, 23h...@googlemail.com (hiro) wrote:

If this is peace I will not soon all of you to blow the whistle on the ss,
also why do you all secretly in the basement with the white rabbit
contagious! It is FORBIDDEN and a shame for my country!

What the hell is this, bad poetry?


Sounds more like the semirandom generated/quoted garbage that spammers
use to probe email addresses.

Of course google translation (or something worse) converts this
garbage.

If you don't be quiet, I'll tell the SS about you, especially what
you're doing to that white rabbit in the basement!
This is VERBOTEN [forbidden] and a shame for the homecountry!

Re: [9fans] πp

2010-10-15 Thread Julius Schmidt

Perhaps I'm getting this all wrong, but to me this seems like an
interesting idea, especially if you consider the impact of being near
the files on some classically considered computationally stressy tasks
like compiling (esp. with kencc). So moving the code near the data
definitely seems worth trying.

aiju


On Fri, 15 Oct 2010, Latchesar Ionkov wrote:


There are definitely cases when moving the code instead of the data
makes sense. But that discussion is mostly unrelated to the one on how
to make the file I/O work better over high-latency links.

2010/10/15 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:

On Fri Oct 15 12:33:19 EDT 2010, lu...@ionkov.net wrote:

What if the data your process needs is located on more than one
server? Play ping-pong?


one either plays ping pong with the process or data.  one
could imagine cases where the former case makes sense.

- erik