Re: [9fans] troll paper

[Peter Hull]

On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 at 11:05, Anthony Martin  wrote:
>
> The IWP9 paper titled "centre, left and right" looks like
> a complete troll. Was it generated by an LLM?

I don't always understand things written about plan9 but this seemed
even to me to be a bit off. However the author is listed as being part
of the organising committee. Maybe it is a joke to see if we are awake
and paying attention?

Really interesting stuff in the other papers though, congratulations
to all who contributed!

Peter

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Re: [9fans] Re: How do I run plan9 in virtualbox?

[Peter Hull]

On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 at 03:18, Don Bailey  wrote:
>
> forgot to respond to this but fwiw, running plan9 on virtualbox seems to work 
> peachy. Hiro what was the bug(s) you were running into before? I've never ran 
> into an issue with it, but I've only used vbox on Linux; maybe it's a 
> host/CPU issue?

My experience is that I ran 9front mostly successfully for a long
time, but sometimes versions of either 9front or VB would conflict.
Recently it stopped working for me:
https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=109347
I think the issue is that, due to the way it works (it's
virtualisation, not an emulator), some aspects of the host CPU 'leak
through' and that isn't always handled correctly. I had another issue
with valgrind and Fedora linux which was down to the same thing.
Someone once told me that QEMU always works, but last time I tried,
QEMU is not very nice to use on Windows.
Pete

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Re: [9fans] goodbye cruel world

[Peter Hull]

On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 11:21 PM, Jules Merit
 wrote:
I suppose it's one of those "If you have to ask..." things but can
anyone explain (any of) Jules Merit's posts for me?
Cheers,
Pete

Re: [9fans] Killing another user's process

[Peter Hull]

On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 at 10:14 Charles Forsyth  wrote:
>
> lower case kill restricts the list to processes of the invoking user
> initial cap Kill doesn't do that.
Apologies both - didn't read Skip's answer properly. I saw kill where
I should have seen Kill.

> for lower case kill, you can @{rfork n; echo -n none >/tmp/none && bind 
> /tmp/none /dev/user && kill tftpd}
> you wouldn't normally of course but aspects of that command might be 
> instructive
Definitely.

Re: [9fans] Killing another user's process

[Peter Hull]

Thanks, Skip.
I thought that ought to work, however 'kill tftpd' doesn't give any
output. (I can kill other processes)
I think maybe I have misunderstood the host owner part. If I do a
plain install (of 9front, actually) from the CD and log in as glenda,
am I not the host owner?
Thanks,
Pete


On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 at 20:02 Skip Tavakkolian
<skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> If you're the host owner, you can:
>
> Kill tftpd | rc
>
> (See rc scripts kill and Kill)
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 24, 2017, 9:41 AM Peter Hull <peterhul...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Is it possible to kill another user's process in plan9?
>> Specifically I've been messing about with tftpd, which sets itself up
>> as user 'none' - if I want to stop the tftp server, how do I do that?
>> Thanks,
>> Pete
>>

[9fans] Killing another user's process

[Peter Hull]

Is it possible to kill another user's process in plan9?
Specifically I've been messing about with tftpd, which sets itself up
as user 'none' - if I want to stop the tftp server, how do I do that?
Thanks,
Pete

Re: [9fans] 9Front in Virtualbox with Internet and Host Drawterm Access

[Peter Hull]

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 at 05:48 Sean Hinchee  wrote:

> Network -> Adapter 1
> Attached to: Host-only Adapter
> Name: VirtualBox Host-Only Ethernet Adapter
> -> Advanced
> Adapter Type: Intel PRO/1000 MT Server
>
> Network -> Adapter 2
> Attached to: NAT
> -> Advanced
> Adapter Type: Intel PRO/1000 MT Server
>
> My current 9front VM set-up works fine with the virtio-net ethernet
adapter, attached to NAT Network. Does this also work for you? I have never
used it with drawterm on the host, though.
Peter

Re: [9fans] DNS

[Peter Hull]

Doesn’t work quite right for me. It resolves a few steps and gets to
an IP address but it never prints out the “answer” between -
lines. If I do it for www.google.com then it does.
Also it prints some console messages - "no rr from dblookup; crapped out"
Pete

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

[Peter Hull]

On 23/08/16 13:39, Adriano Verardo wrote:

Yes, but not in June/July and all around the world.
Sent just to see if this message reaches the list.
Your message definitely has reached the list ... whether it gets back to 
you is another matter!


I see from the archive (http://marc.info/?l=9fans) there were no 
messages at all in June, maybe everyone was tired out after the 203 
messages in May?


Cheers,
Peter

Re: [9fans] Virtual Box 5.1 and Plan 9

[Peter Hull]

Thanks, both. I use VB because it works well for what I need it for
(running Linux on Win and Mac) and for me it works better than qemu in that
respect. I'd rather stick to one virtualisation solution if possible.

I've narrowed the problem down to the emulated ethernet card - the Intel MT
PRO/1000 Server was the only card that worked with Plan9 and now it does
not.

So if anyone has any advice on how to debug this I'd be grateful.

Ironically 9front is the only variant that does work, because it has a
driver for virtio-net. Well done cinap and thank you.

Pete




On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 at 08:16 Matthew Veety  wrote:

> I run 9front in virtualbox, and, while I totally agree that its a
> waste of time to test it because they *always* break something in
> vbox, you're pretty safe if you stay on the 4.3 series and 5.0 series
> (on my end: 4.3 on freebsd is tested and 5.0 on windows is tested). I
> know you don't get the latest and greatest features, but it works and
> you can get your work done which is more important than features.
> If you want to try fixing things, I'm sure the patches would be
> accepted, but I don't think you should unless you have *very* good
> reasons to because of how terrible virtualbox is.
>
> --
> Veety
>
>

[9fans] Virtual Box 5.1 and Plan 9

[Peter Hull]

I've been using plan 9 on Virtual Box 5.0.x for a while and it's been
running fine. However the latest update to 5.1 seems not to work.

I want to try and sort this out but I need a bit of help on figuring out
what's going during boot.

On both Labs and 9front the booting just hangs somewhere after login (see
http://i.imgur.com/6hXLbbq.png) presumably while running some rc scripts.
On 9front I was running the most recent installer CD.

Is there anyway to make this more verbose so I can tell what's going on?

Thanks.
Peter

Re: [9fans] bug in exportfs

[Peter Hull]

On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 11:31 PM, arisawa  wrote:
> It seems cpu command is buggy in -P option.
> the sources of the problem is in command option -P of exportfs.

I had a look at the manpage for exportfs(4), it says: "For a file to
be exported, all lines with a prefix + must match and all those with
prefix - must not match." (http://man.9front.org/4/exportfs)

So isn't the original code correct according to the manpage? If any of
the regexps in 'include' fail to match, the function returns -1, then
if any in 'exclude' do match, -1 is returned.

> patternfile sample
> + /usr/arisawa
> + /usr/glenda
> - /adm
> - /sys/log
> - /mail
> - /usr/.*
>
Is this sample invalid - no path could match /usr/arisawa and
/usr/glenda at the same time?

Pete

Re: [9fans] cpu/auth/file servers

[Peter Hull]

On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Peter Hull peterhul...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:30 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
 I've been using this document :
 http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/expanding_your_grid/index.html
Not had the AHA! moment promised in this document...

Do I need to run the terminal as user None (and specify that as the
default in plan9.ini) so that the 'real' user can log on to the cpu
server with their credentials after rio has started?

I see how it would work where the terminal has some local resources
that are useful (including where you use drawterm from another OS) -
log onto the local terminal then log on to the cpu - but in the PXE
boot case the terminal isn't supposed to have any local storage or
even much processing power.

Pete

[9fans] cpu/auth/file servers

[Peter Hull]

I've had some success setting up and using plan9 standalone and I have
moved on to trying a networked configuration.

Following the instructions I have set up a combined  cpu/auth server,
and a terminal booting with PXE.

When I boot my terminal it asks for my username (no password) and
starts rio. I can then access my home directory as read-only. I then
run 'cpu', which asks me for a password, and then I can write  my
files.

This doesn't seem right and I think the problem is that I don't really
understand how it's supposed to work. The terminal needs to see the
cpu's filesystem because that's where its root filesystem is coming
from but it shouldn't be able to get to files in /usr/ without a
password, surely. I've used X terminals in the past and I suppose I am
expecting some sort of XDMCP prompt like that.

Can anyone enlighten me or point to the appropriate place in the docs?

Thanks very much,
Pete

Re: [9fans] cpu/auth/file servers

[Peter Hull]

On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:30 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
 is your file server in allow mode?  or are you really booting a cpu server
 with nvram?
The latter (I think) - the same system is the cpu, auth and file server.
I've got
bootfile=ether0!/386/9pcf
nobootprompt=tcp
in the terminal's plan9.ini

I've been using this document :
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/expanding_your_grid/index.html
and I am between 'level 2' and 'level 3' I suppose.

Pete

Re: [9fans] plan9 legacy tcs -t unicode sucks last char

[Peter Hull]

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ingo Krabbe ikrabbe@gmail.com wrote:
 I will post a fix tomorrow noone else feels guilty.
I can't tell if you already know the answer and are teasing us - but,
I will wade in...
I think the problem is in src/cmd/tcs/tcs.c, comparing unicode_out and
unicode_out_be it looks like the former is trying to write out 32-bit
Runes as if they were 16-bit uints.
If you try
echo 12345 | tcs -t unicode | xd -1x
you can see what it's doing.

Pete

Re: [9fans] Announcing The Virtual Plan 9 Server Cookbook

[Peter Hull]

On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 8:16 PM, David L. Craig dlc@gmail.com wrote:
 I really hope it is helpful to a lot of people as time
 goes by.
Hi David,
This is going to be a tremendously useful resource! I've not read it
all yet but:
1. Is there a reason for using Debian sid instead of current stable?
2. Would it be possible to make the section titles/steps stand out a
bit more from the rest of the text; it would help when scrolling up
and down?

Thanks,
pete

Re: [9fans] Announcing The Virtual Plan 9 Server Cookbook

[Peter Hull]

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 6:40 PM, David L. Craig dlc@gmail.com wrote:
 I've updated the vp9cb.css and the tar to use maximum white
 for the headers.  Let me know if they're too bright.
Well, I like it.
Thanks,
Pete

Re: [9fans] I want manual of OS

[Peter Hull]

On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Joseph Stewart joseph.stew...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Would a service like http://www.lulu.com/ work for this? I don't know
 what their cut is

That's a coincidence, when I saw Charles's email I immediately thought of
Lulu and was just browsing the site when Joe's message arrived. I've used
Lulu in the past and they were good. Info on their cut is here:
http://www.lulu.com/sell
Pete

Re: [9fans] Web Site broken

[Peter Hull]

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 3:43 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
 i got a slightly different error message, and came to the same educated
 guess as sergey.  the file server appears down or sick, but the web server is 
 still
 up and kicking enough to complain about missing files, etc.  the web
 server must boot from a different root, otherwise it would be down, too.
Just wondering - who should we report this too? Out of all the
characters who post on this list, I'm not sure who is associated with
Labs, 9Front, ... etc

Pete

Re: [9fans] VirtualBox, Mavericks, and Plan 9

[Peter Hull]

Hi Shane,
I just tried an installation from scratch of 9atom - downloaded the
ISO from Quanstro.net, installed on VirtualBox 4.3.12 on Mavericks
10.9.3 accepting the defaults as far as possible. It all installed
fine and booted fine. I've not had time to setup networking etc. but
it certainly doesn't hang as you describe.
I have noticed that the 'default install' doesn't seem to work if
installing on a virtual hard disk that already has plan9 on it (in my
case installing 9atom over the labs version, it didn't seem to
actually do anything and booted back to the labs distro) . Did you
start from a fresh HD this time?

I can send you my 9atom.vbox (the XML config file) separately if you want.

Pete



On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Shane Morris edgecombe...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi 9fans,

 I am running the latest VirtualBox on the latest Mavericks, and after an
 install of 9atom, go to run the resulting image, and execution stops at the
 /bin/rc command, just before entry into Rio.

 I noticed this same problem on my Macbook Air on 10.8 - I thought I had just
 botched my previous image, it appears not.

 All settings should be correct to what the pertinent blogs say the settings
 should be (ie, IDE hard drive, 1000MT Server network card, etc).

 Any help, criticism, explanations, etc, are most welcome!

 Shane.

Re: [9fans] first questions from a lurker

[Peter Hull]

On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Bakul Shah ba...@bitblocks.com wrote:
 Others have answered what to do within plan9. On the
 virtualbox side you need to attach to 'bridged adapter'
 instead of NAT.  Pick the right name (which is really the
 interface name on the host) -- wi-fi (airport) for instacnce
 if you are on a MBP.  I think the default adapter type should
 work (Intel pro/1000 MT desktop). You may also have to tell
 the dhcp server about mac address  etc. depending on how it is
 set up.
In my experience*, only the Intel Pro/1000 MT Server works. What did
you want to do with your Plan 9 installation? If you just want a
standalone system that can make outgoing connections, then NAT mode
works fine - in that case DHCP is provided by VirtualBox itself and it
passes through the ip addresses of the DNS servers from the host. If
you want external systems to make connections to Plan 9 servers then
you'll need Bridged mode as Bakul says.



Pete
* The Bell Labs distribution in VirtualBox 4.3.8 on Windows host.

Re: [9fans] first questions from a lurker

[Peter Hull]

On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:41 PM,  arn...@skeeve.com wrote:
 First questions.
I'm new too but I'll have a go, then someone will correct me!

 0. How to see my IP address? Cat a file in /net/... somewhere?
cat /net/ndb


 1. How to change the hostname - just edit /rc/bin/termrc and choose
whatever I want to echo into /dev/sysname?  Will that get reflected
back out to the corporate net via DHCP?
I'd edit plan9.ini - you'll need to mount the 9fat partition (either
9fat or 9fs 9fat(?)) then edit /n/9fs/plan9.ini

 2. How to use DHCP to get to the corporate DNS servers?  (This worked
pretty much OOTB on the labs dist, but I think that 9atom will be
the better match for the work we want to do.)  Right now all
hostname lookups (via ping) fail.
If you edit /rc/bin/termrc and uncomment the lines about ip/ipconfig
then reboot it should come up networked,
then try ndb/dnsquery to test your connectivity

Bonus answer: to shutdown I'd do
fshalt
wait a bit, then close the VM

Pete

[9fans] Editing the wiki

[Peter Hull]

 I mentioned this in a previous post but I will repeat here as it was
buried in a load of other stuff.
I tried to edit the sandbox in the wiki and wasn't able to. I ran

acme /acme/wiki/guide

and executed the commands in that file. I was then able to navigate
the wiki in acme (and confirmed it was the 'live' wiki and not the
local copy in /sys/lib/wiki.
I edited the sandbox page and executed the Put command. I got the error

Wiki commit 1028330739 12 -1: '/sys/lib/wiki/d/2.hist' permission denied.

I don't understand why wiki is looking in that directory.

If I instead run 'Local wikifs /sys/lib/wiki' then I get access to the
local copy and can edit it freely. In that case my changes are indeed
in /sys/lib/wiki/d/2.hist as I would expect.

Thanks,
Pete

Re: [9fans] Editing the wiki

[Peter Hull]

On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:42 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
 it's working for me from plan 9.  i just edited
 /mnt/wiki/plan_9_wiki_wish_list/
OK. I was able to edit the same page (I turned your text into a hyperlink!)

 to the OP, did you B2 the line
 Local srv net!plan9.bell-labs.com!wiki wiki /mnt/wiki
 that seems like the most likely issue.
The actual line was 'Local 9fs wiki' which in /bin/9fs evaluates to
'srv -m net!plan9.bell-labs.com!wiki' wiki /mnt/wiki'

So it seems (ironically) I can edit any page apart from the sandbox
and the error message is just misleading (i.e. the reference to
/sys/lib/wiki/... is not my file system but the one on the bell labs
server) Anyway, that is my guess; like Lucio I am not ready to give up
on guessing just yet ;)

Pete

Re: [9fans] Welcome Plan 9 community

[Peter Hull]

On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Alexandru Gheorghe
alghe.glo...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 03/04/2014 12:19 AM, Alexandru Gheorghe wrote:
 On 03/03/2014 10:53 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:

 On Mar 3, 2014, at 12:52, Alexandru Gheorghe alghe.glo...@gmail.com wrote:

 should we gather some configuration steps/examples for known stable
 builds of vbox and post them in a wiki somewhere(?)
I've got some instructions for running Plan 9 on Virtual Box, I was
going to post them on the wiki as Alexandru Gheorghe suggested. I got
onto the wiki and tried to edit the sandbox as a first step but got a
curious error when I tried to Put:
Wiki commit 1028330739 12 -1: '/sys/lib/wiki/d/2.hist' permission denied.

Anyway here are the instructions for future reference.

PLAN9 INSTALL
=

VirtualBox
--

Set up VM in Virtual Box v4.3.8, OS X 9 host, recent (2014-03-02) CD Plan9.iso

64MB RAM
2GB hard disk
NAT network, Intel PRO/1000 MT Server (82545EM)
PIIX3 chipset
PS/2 Mouse
No USB
No Serial
No Sound
VT-x/AMD-V enabled
Storage PIIX4 IDE controller

Install from CD
---

Monitor: 1024x768x8 VESA
Mouse: PS2INTELLIMOUSE
Accept all defaults
Location of archives: /
Plan 9 boot, install MBR
Remove the virtual CD from the virtual drive
Reboot (type CTRL-T CTRL-T R)

Login
-
Accept default on 'Root is from:'
User: glenda
Get familiar with rio/acme

Net Access
--
Open /rc/bin/termrc in acme
Uncomment the lines
# if (! test -e /net/ipifc/0/ctl)
#  ip/ipconfig
and reboot.

Re: [9fans] Welcome Plan 9 community

[Peter Hull]

On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Alexandru Gheorghe
alghe.glo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hmm, actually related to this, I encounter dhcprecv read timed out.
I got those kind of errors for every type of network card apart from
'Intel PRO/1000 Server (82545EM)' Which one are you using?
Pete

Re: [9fans] How to find or build 9pxeload?

[Peter Hull]

OK got it now. I was specifying the wrong network card to VirtualBox,
the 'Intel PRO/1000 MT Server' works and the 'Desktop' doesn't. Now I
can TFTP boot but so far can't start a graphical session. That's for
the next email...

Thanks,
pete

Re: [9fans] How to find or build 9pxeload?

[Peter Hull]

I didn't understand any of the last 3 messages* but,
I've got tftpd and dhcpd up and running; I can see the
discover-offer-request-ack in /sys/log/ipboot. I see /386/9boot being
transferred by tftpd. 9boot seems to load ok, on the client I see
9boot.gz... starting protected-mode loader at 0x900020
but then a bit lower down
pxe on ether0 .T.T.T.T.T.T bootp on ether0 timed out
then it just repeats.
I'd expect it to be trying to load plan9.ini from /cfg/pxe/MAC by
now, yet don't see anything like that in the ipboot log. I see
bootp 0.0.0.0-10.0.2.9 from hwa01_080027835578 vie 10.0.2.9, file broadcast
bootp via 255.255.255.255: file /386/9boot xid(30) flag(8000) ...

What am I missing (sorry to keep asking)
Thanks,
Pete

* I have seen Brazil and I understood the film about as well as I now
understand plan9!!!

Re: [9fans] How to find or build 9pxeload?

[Peter Hull]

On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 1:21 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
 9boot.gz... starting protected-mode loader at 0x900020

 pxe doesn't know how to decompress.

Not quite sure how that's happening, 9boot on my disk isn't a .gz file
and I can't see any options to tftpd that are requesting compression.
Isn't 9boot running OK by then - and the errors coming from the next step?
Thanks for your help,
Pete

Re: [9fans] How to find or build 9pxeload?

[Peter Hull]

On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 3:42 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
 what is bootf in the ndb entry for the host that is supposed to pxe boot?
 ndb/query ether $myether bootf

/386/9boot

Re: [9fans] How to find or build 9pxeload?

[Peter Hull]

9boot (I think) comprises a stub and a compressed executable; once the
whole thing is loaded it decompresses the real 9boot and runs it. I do
think 9boot is running OK, it seems to fail when it goes back to bootp
to get its Ethernet config, hence the .T.T part of what it prints out.
I'll try those other distributions as you suggest.
pete

Re: [9fans] Welcome Plan 9 community

[Peter Hull]

It’s not as exciting as real hardware but you could always run it on a virtual 
machine. I’ve got it running fine on VirtualBox, with networking (internet and 
between VMs) 
Pete

On 2 Mar 2014, at 22:16, Szymon Olewniczak szymon.olewnic...@rid.pl wrote:

 Hi,
 I've just registerd to this mailing list, so hello everyone.
 
 I've read about Plan 9 several months ago and fascinated with ideas
 behind this OS. Now I've decided to try the system on my own and although 
 I don't know much about it yet, I believe that it can be something that
 I would like to work for(I'm an IT student, so if I find myself clever 
 enough to understand the power of Plan 9, I will try to help the project
 during the GOSC). 
 
 But to begin with the main issue that brings me to write this message. I
 know that before I can do anything on Plan 9, I need hardware that
 cooperate with it. I've read the Supported PC Hardware[0] and
 realised that there is not much of it. Is there only one reliable motherboard 
  
 (ASUS A8R32-MVP without NIC) that can run Plan9? I've also read there that
 there are several laptops pointed in this page without any additional
 comments in brackets. Does it mean that they are fully supported? I've
 also read that RaspberryPI can run Plan 9. I have RP rev. 2 so maybe it
 should be the hardware which I can use to start my Plan 9 adventure.
 
 What hardware can you recommend? What hardware do you use? Is there is
 any PC that can run both Plan 9 and Inferno?
 
 [0]http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/Supported_PC_hardware/index.html
 
 

Re: [9fans] Welcome Plan 9 community

[Peter Hull]

On 3 Mar 2014, at 20:52, Alexandru Gheorghe alghe.glo...@gmail.com wrote:

 should we gather some configuration steps/examples for known stable
 builds of vbox and post them in a wiki somewhere(?) at least people
 could resort to those and omit the minor releases,until a major (for
 which we write yet another entry in wiki if necessary and breaks plan9).
I will try and reinstall my setup and note down the configurations for the wiki.
Pete

[9fans] How to find or build 9pxeload?

[Peter Hull]

 Hi all,
I was looking at booting via PXE (this is all just on Virtual Box
VMs). I need to provide a 9pxeload in the boot process but I can't
find it in my distribution and I can't understand how to build it. I
looked in the source tree but 9pxeload doesn't seem to be a target in
the makefile.

How can I build 9pxeload? (I am using plan 9 from Bell Labs, not
9front or 9atom)

Thanks,
Peter

[9fans] Various distributions

[Peter Hull]

 Sorry for this extremely basic question but I'm a bit confused about
the various plan9 distributions.
As I understand it, 9front is a fork of the original plan 9 from Bell
Labs and 9atom consists of enhancements to plan9.
All three seem to be under development, but: Are changes being pulled
from one to the other, or are they slowly diverging? And, does the
recent announcement regarding GPLv2 have any bearing on the situation?
Thanks for any comments,
Pete

Re: [9fans] Inferno on XMOS

[Peter Hull]

It would be interesting to see Plan 9 running on the 40-node Raspberry
Pi 'supercomputer'!
http://likemagicappears.com/projects/raspberry-pi-cluster/
Pete



On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:26 AM,  lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
 Has anyone considered running Inferno on an XMOS system?

 I have a startkit, but my thought was to port (some day!) Plan 9 to
 it.  It sounds like I overlooked its small memory footprint, from your
 message.

 ++L

Re: [9fans] GPLv2

[Peter Hull]

There is a big discussion on this over at Hacker News which I don’t really 
understand but I think the main point was that this isn’t as big a change as it 
seems.
On the other hand, I’ve never heard of akaros. How similar is it to Plan9?
Pete

On 13 Feb 2014, at 20:53, Sergey Zhilkin szhil...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://akaros.cs.berkeley.edu/files/Plan9License 
 
 H ..
 
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 С наилучшими пожеланиями
 Жилкин Сергей
 With best regards
 Zhilkin Sergey

Re: [9fans] Help with networking on Virtual Box

[Peter Hull]

On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 9:29 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
 i certainly would do some debugging to see if ndb/cs is really
 running, and if dns is running, too.  iirc, the default termrc
 has ipconfig commented out, so dns will not start.
I'm typing ip/ipconfig and ndb/dns -r on every reboot at the moment. I
tried ndb/csquery and it looked reasonable. For a query of
'localhost!cs' I got  '/net/localhost/clone cs' and for
'localhost!dns' I got '/net/localhost/clone dns'
For ndb/dnsquery it looked less good, for 'localhost ip' I got
'!dns:resource does not exist; negrcode 0' and for 'www.google.com ip'
I got '!dns: dns failure'
I have only just started on plan 9 so apologies if this is the wrong
way to test the servers.

For those already running on virtual box, what version are you
running? I could try that and see if it's a VB problem (I believe they
overhauled the network code in v4.3)

Thanks.
pete

Re: [9fans] Help with networking on Virtual Box

[Peter Hull]

On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Bakul Shah ba...@bitblocks.com wrote:
 Uncomment ip/ifconfig in termrc as Erik suggested or stick the four lines 
 that I showed in termrc.local. I think there is some sequencing issue if you 
 run them manually.
Bakul, Erik,
Thanks very much. Editing termrc as you suggested now gives me a
'proper' IP and DNS seems to work (dnsquery and ping both fine)

I will see if I can work out why the sequencing needs to be as it is.
Pete

[9fans] Help with networking on Virtual Box

[Peter Hull]

Dear All,
I am just trying to set up Plan 9 so I can have a play with it. I'm
running it in VirtualBox 4.3.6 and I'm running into the DNS problem
that has been reported earlier [1]

ip/ipconfig seems to run fine but it assigns an address of 127.0.0.1
and DNS doesn't work.

Unfortunately (as far as I can see) the previous reports didn't come
up with a solution or the reporter found a different way to run Plan
9.

 I used the -D option on ip/ipconfig and got this:
term% ip/ipconfig -D
ipconfig: parsebootp: new packet
ipconfig: parseoptions: type(53) len 1, bytes left 58
ipconfig: parseoptions: serverid(54) len 4, bytes left 55
ipconfig: parseoptions: lease(51) len 4, bytes left 49
ipconfig: parseoptions: ipmask(1) len 4, bytes left 43
ipconfig: parseoptions: ipgw(3) len 4, bytes left 37
ipconfig: parseoptions: dns(6) len 4, bytes left 31
ipconfig: got offer from 0.0.0.0
ipconfig: lease=86400
ipconfig: server=192.168.1.1 sname=
ipconfig: parsebootp: new packet
ipconfig: parseoptions: type(53) len 1, bytes left 58
ipconfig: parseoptions: serverid(54) len 4, bytes left 55
ipconfig: parseoptions: lease(51) len 4, bytes left 49
ipconfig: parseoptions: ipmask(1) len 4, bytes left 43
ipconfig: parseoptions: ipgw(3) len 4, bytes left 37
ipconfig: parseoptions: dns(6) len 4, bytes left 31
ipconfig: got ack from 0.0.0.0
ipconfig: lease=86400
ipconfig: ipaddr=192.168.1.25 ipmask=255.255.255.0
ipconfig: ipgw=192.168.1.1
ipconfig: dns=192.168.1.1
ipconfig: server=192.168.1.1 sname=
term% cat /net/ndb
ip=127.0.0.1 ipmask=/104 ipgw=::
sys=gnot
sys=gnot
dns=192.168.1.1

Does anyone know how I might go about solving the problem?

Thanks,
Peter

[1]: http://9fans.net/archive/2013/08/31

Re: [9fans] Help with networking on Virtual Box

[Peter Hull]

Hi All,
Thanks for the responses. To answer your questions
Erik, here is /net/iproute. Unfortunately I moved to a different wifi
network so the addresses are different to my initial post

0.0.0.0 /96  192.168.0.1 4none   -
192.168.0.0 /120 192.168.0.0 4i   ifc1
192.168.0.0 /128 192.168.0.0 4b   ifc-
192.168.0.28/128 192.168.0.284u   ifc1
192.168.0.255   /128 192.168.0.255   4b   ifc-
127.0.0.0   /104 127.0.0.0   4i   ifc-
127.0.0.0   /128 127.0.0.0   4b   ifc-
127.0.0.1   /128 127.0.0.1   4u   ifc-
127.255.255.255 /128 127.255.255.255 4b   ifc-
255.255.255.255 /128 255.255.255.255 4b   ifc1

I could ping the host PC from Plan 9 and vice versa.

Patryk, unfortunately that didn't seem to change anything; I still got
the dns error.

Bakul, The host is Windows 8.1 64-bit, network settings are intel pro
mt server, using bridged mode (to my wifi adaptor.) I got these
options from an earlier posting.

thanks,
Pete