Re: [9fans] [9pi] standardize \ normalize setting dns in
On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 1:51:25 PM UTC+3, Richard Miller wrote: Go ahead. It's called termrc.'local' because it's your own local configuration to play with as you like. There's no standard. The one on sources is an empty template, and the one on the raspberry pi image is just an initial suggestion. Oh, I see. I'm just used to trying to separate code from data so much I thought a default that keeps the users from editing scripts is the norm and would get upstreamed. In practice my concern was that I'll replica\pull over it by mistake... I suppose you can tell I'm a linux user :P On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 1:54:45 PM UTC+3, Bence Fábián wrote: what does ndb/query sys $sysname say? try to add ether and dom like this: ip=10.0.0.13 sys=9pi ether=x... dom=9pi.Home Ops. Good call. It returned the ip as the sysname. :) All better now. Here's some breadcrumbs for any brave adventurers lucky enough to google this discussion: term% cat /lib/ndb/local # # files comprising the database, use as many as you like, see ndb(6) # database= file=/lib/ndb/local file=/lib/ndb/common auth=sources.cs.bell-labs.com authdom=outside.plan9.bell-labs.com # # because the public demands the name localsource # ip=127.0.0.1 sys=localhost dom=localhost ipnet=HOME ip=10.0.0.0 ipmask=255.255.255.0 ipsubmask=255.255.255.0 ipgw=10.0.0.138 auth=9pi cpu=9pi fs=9pi dns=1.2.3.4 dns=8.8.8.8 dns=8.8.4.4 dns=10.0.0.138 dnsdomain=HOME ip=10.0.0.13 sys=9pi dom=9pi.HOME proto=il auth=10.0.0.13 authdom=9pi.HOME term% ndb/query sys $sysname ip=10.0.0.13 sys=9pi dom=9pi.HOME proto=il Thanks !
Re: [9fans] [9pi] standardize \ normalize setting dns in
2013/4/4 c117...@rmqkr.net term% cat /lib/ndb/local # # files comprising the database, use as many as you like, see ndb(6) # database= file=/lib/ndb/local file=/lib/ndb/common auth=sources.cs.bell-labs.com authdom=outside.plan9.bell-labs.com # # because the public demands the name localsource # ip=127.0.0.1 sys=localhost dom=localhost ipnet=HOME ip=10.0.0.0 ipmask=255.255.255.0 ipsubmask=255.255.255.0 ipgw=10.0.0.138 auth=9pi cpu=9pi fs=9pi dns=1.2.3.4 dns=8.8.8.8 dns=8.8.4.4 dns=10.0.0.138 dnsdomain=HOME ip=10.0.0.13 sys=9pi dom=9pi.HOME proto=il auth=10.0.0.13 authdom=9pi.HOME term% ndb/query sys $sysname ip=10.0.0.13 sys=9pi dom=9pi.HOME proto=il Thanks ! Suppose you have ip=10.0.0.13 sys=9pi1 dom=9pi.HOME proto=il ip=10.0.0.14 sys=9pi4 dom=9pi.HOME proto=il which one is this machine? add the 'ether=' excerpt from my /lib/ndb/local: ipnet=9front ip=10.0.2.0 ipmask=255.255.255.0 ipgw=10.0.2.2 dns=10.150.128.15 sys=thor ether=525400123456 dom=thor.9front ip=10.0.2.15 and the output on my qemu terminal looks like this: term% ndb/query sys $sysname ip=10.0.2.15 ipmask=/120 ipgw=10.0.2.2 sys=thor dns=10.150.128.15 sys=thor ether=525400123456 dom=thor.9front ip=10.0.2.15 term%
Re: [9fans] [9pi] standardize \ normalize setting dns in
my concern was that I'll replica\pull over it by mistake pull will not update anything you have locally modified, unless you explicitly tell it to with a '-s file-or-directory-name' parameter. You get an error message instead.
Re: [9fans] [9pi] standardize \ normalize setting dns in
ipnet=9front ip=10.0.2.0 ipmask=255.255.255.0 ipgw=10.0.2.2 dns=10.150.128.15 5: r !/bin/upas/marshal -s 'Re: [9fans] [9pi] standardize \ normalize setting dns in' -R /mail/fs/mbox/1698 9fans@9fans.net sys=thor ether=525400123456 dom=thor.9front ip=10.0.2.15 and the output on my qemu terminal looks like this: term% ndb/query sys $sysname ip=10.0.2.15 ipmask=/120 ipgw=10.0.2.2 sys=thor dns=10.150.128.15 sys=thor ether=525400123456 dom=thor.9front ip=10.0.2.15 term% that doesn't look right. using the ndb excerpt posed, i get this ; ndb/query -f /tmp/test.ndb sys thor sys=thor ether=525400123456 dom=thor.9front were some bits left out of your example? - erik
Re: [9fans] [9pi] standardize \ normalize setting dns in
I tried with a dummy file and I get the same results as you. My guess (haven't checked anything) that it gets the other information from /net/ndb. However I'm in no way an ndb expert. Maybe someone knowledgable can weigh in on this. 2013/4/4 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net ipnet=9front ip=10.0.2.0 ipmask=255.255.255.0 ipgw=10.0.2.2 dns=10.150.128.15 5: r !/bin/upas/marshal -s 'Re: [9fans] [9pi] standardize \ normalize setting dns in' -R /mail/fs/mbox/1698 9fans@9fans.net sys=thor ether=525400123456 dom=thor.9front ip=10.0.2.15 and the output on my qemu terminal looks like this: term% ndb/query sys $sysname ip=10.0.2.15 ipmask=/120 ipgw=10.0.2.2 sys=thor dns=10.150.128.15 sys=thor ether=525400123456 dom=thor.9front ip=10.0.2.15 term% that doesn't look right. using the ndb excerpt posed, i get this ; ndb/query -f /tmp/test.ndb sys thor sys=thor ether=525400123456 dom=thor.9front were some bits left out of your example? - erik
Re: [9fans] [9pi] standardize \ normalize setting dns in
On Thursday, March 28, 2013 2:41:42 PM UTC+2, Richard Miller wrote: For a machine not receiving net configuration via DHCP, the normal place to define dns= would be in /lib/ndb/local - 'man 6 ndb' for information. Yes. I've already figured out that much: term% cat /lib/ndb/local database= file=/lib/ndb/local file=/lib/ndb/common auth=sources.cd.bell-labs.com authdom=outside.plan9.bell-labs.com ip=127.0.0.1 sys=localhost dom=localhost ipnet=Home ip=10.0.0.0 ipmask=255.255.255.0 ipgw=10.0.0.138 dns=1.2.3.4 # (my isp's dns) dns=8.8.8.8 # (googleA) dns=8.8.4.4 # (googleB) dns=10.0.0.138 # (my router for when the net is down but I still want local quarries getting through and local dom - .Home - requests) auth=9pi cpu=9pi ip=10.0.0.13 sys=9pi The thing is, the way I understand and implement it, you have your basic networking split in at least two places: The /lib/ndb/local file and the ip/ipconfig command arguments (being called from termrc.local...). Now, if there's a DHCP then you can forgo /lib/ndb/local and just specify an empty ipconfig=. However, on a static ip you're only allowed to do everything except feeding it a dns. My idea is to have a line or two added to termrc.local that will parse a single dns var from the cmdline.txt file. This way you can get the same convenience you'd get with DHCP in a static setup. I'm not sure it's a possible needless un +\-foreseen complication, lack of interest, an oversight, a security concern or whatever... But it seems to me that it could simplify things a little. Just a thought really ;)
Re: [9fans] [9pi] standardize \ normalize setting dns in
On Thursday, March 28, 2013 2:41:42 PM UTC+2, Richard Miller wrote: For a machine not receiving net configuration via DHCP, the normal place to define dns= would be in /lib/ndb/local - 'man 6 ndb' for information. Yes. I've already figured out that much: term% cat /lib/ndb/local database= file=/lib/ndb/local file=/lib/ndb/common auth=sources.cd.bell-labs.com authdom=outside.plan9.bell-labs.com ip=127.0.0.1 sys=localhost dom=localhost ipnet=Home ip=10.0.0.0 ipmask=255.255.255.0 ipgw=10.0.0.138 dns=1.2.3.4 # (my isp's dns) dns=8.8.8.8 # (googleA) dns=8.8.4.4 # (googleB) dns=10.0.0.138 # (my router for when the net is down but I still want local quarries getting through and local dom - .Home - requests) auth=9pi cpu=9pi ip=10.0.0.13 sys=9pi The thing is, the way I understand and implement it, you have your basic networking split in at least two places: The /lib/ndb/local file and the ip/ipconfig command arguments (being called from termrc.local...). Now, if there's a DHCP then you can forgo /lib/ndb/local and just specify an empty ipconfig=. However, on a static ip you're only allowed to do everything except feeding it a dns. My idea is to have a line or two added to termrc.local that will parse a single dns var from the cmdline.txt file. This way you can get the same convenience you'd get with DHCP in a static setup. I'm not sure it's a possible needless un +\-foreseen complication, lack of interest, an oversight, a security concern or whatever... But it seems to me that it could simplify things a little. Just a thought really.
Re: [9fans] [9pi] standardize \ normalize setting dns in
On Mar 28, 8:41 am, 9f...@hamnavoe.com (Richard Miller) wrote: For a machine not receiving net configuration via DHCP, the normal place to define dns= would be in /lib/ndb/local - 'man 6 ndb' for information. Yes. I've already figured out that much: term% cat /lib/ndb/local database= file=/lib/ndb/local file=/lib/ndb/common auth=sources.cd.bell-labs.com authdom=outside.plan9.bell-labs.com ip=127.0.0.1 sys=localhost dom=localhost ipnet=Home ip=10.0.0.0 ipmask=255.255.255.0 ipgw=10.0.0.138 dns=1.2.3.4 # (my isp's dns) dns=8.8.8.8 # (googleA) dns=8.8.4.4 # (googleB) dns=10.0.0.138 # (my router for when the net is down but I still want local quarries getting through and local dom - .Home - requests) auth=9pi cpu=9pi ip=10.0.0.13 sys=9pi The thing is, the way I understand and implement it, you have your basic networking split in at least two places: The /lib/ndb/local file and the ip/ipconfig command arguments (being called from termrc.local...). Now, if there's a DHCP then you can forgo /lib/ndb/ local and just specify an empty ipconfig=. However, on a static ip you're only allowed to do everything except feeding it a dns. My idea is to have a line or two added to termrc.local that will parse a single dns var from the cmdline.txt file. This way you can get the same convenience you'd get with DHCP in a static setup. I'm not sure it's a possible needless un +\-foreseen complication, lack of interest, an oversight, a security concern or whatever... But it seems to me that it could simplify things a little. Just a thought really. p.s. This is my third or fourth attempt at a reply. The first two were on the new groups interface. This attempt is on the old one. hopefully those aren't coming out somewhere as double\triple\quadruple posts...
Re: [9fans] [9pi] standardize \ normalize setting dns in
My idea is to have a line or two added to termrc.local that will parse a single dns var from the cmdline.txt file. Go ahead. It's called termrc.'local' because it's your own local configuration to play with as you like. There's no standard. The one on sources is an empty template, and the one on the raspberry pi image is just an initial suggestion.
Re: [9fans] [9pi] standardize \ normalize setting dns in
what does ndb/query sys $sysname say? try to add ether and dom like this: ip=10.0.0.13 sys=9pi ether=x... dom=9pi.Home 2013/4/3 c117...@rmqkr.net On Mar 28, 8:41 am, 9f...@hamnavoe.com (Richard Miller) wrote: For a machine not receiving net configuration via DHCP, the normal place to define dns= would be in /lib/ndb/local - 'man 6 ndb' for information. Yes. I've already figured out that much: term% cat /lib/ndb/local database= file=/lib/ndb/local file=/lib/ndb/common auth=sources.cd.bell-labs.com authdom=outside.plan9.bell-labs.com ip=127.0.0.1 sys=localhost dom=localhost ipnet=Home ip=10.0.0.0 ipmask=255.255.255.0 ipgw=10.0.0.138 dns=1.2.3.4 # (my isp's dns) dns=8.8.8.8 # (googleA) dns=8.8.4.4 # (googleB) dns=10.0.0.138 # (my router for when the net is down but I still want local quarries getting through and local dom - .Home - requests) auth=9pi cpu=9pi ip=10.0.0.13 sys=9pi The thing is, the way I understand and implement it, you have your basic networking split in at least two places: The /lib/ndb/local file and the ip/ipconfig command arguments (being called from termrc.local...). Now, if there's a DHCP then you can forgo /lib/ndb/ local and just specify an empty ipconfig=. However, on a static ip you're only allowed to do everything except feeding it a dns. My idea is to have a line or two added to termrc.local that will parse a single dns var from the cmdline.txt file. This way you can get the same convenience you'd get with DHCP in a static setup. I'm not sure it's a possible needless un +\-foreseen complication, lack of interest, an oversight, a security concern or whatever... But it seems to me that it could simplify things a little. Just a thought really. p.s. This is my third or fourth attempt at a reply. The first two were on the new groups interface. This attempt is on the old one. hopefully those aren't coming out somewhere as double\triple\quadruple posts...
[9fans] [9pi] standardize \ normalize setting dns in
In 9pi, the cmdline.txt allows defining an env var that is evaluated and used by /bin/termrc.local as line arguments for ip/ipconfig. e.g. term% dossrv -f/dev/sdM0/dos term% mount -c /srv/dos /mnt term% cat /mnt/cmdline.txt readparts=1 nobootprompt=local user=glenda ipconfig='-g 10.0.0.138 ether /net/ether0 10.0.0.13 255.255.255.0' term% This however is only sufficient in establishing an ip. For dns resolution it's necessary to add a dns ip to the ndb. e.g. term% ehco 'dns=8.8.8.8'/net/ndb What I'd like to ask is for termrc.local to have a dns option so something like dns='8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4' will add the entries properly. R.K. p.s. Manually adding ehco 'dns=8.8.8.8'/net/ndb works but I'd like a more official solution...
Re: [9fans] [9pi] standardize \ normalize setting dns in
Then why don't you add it to termrc.local? That's what it is for.
Re: [9fans] [9pi] standardize \ normalize setting dns in
For a machine not receiving net configuration via DHCP, the normal place to define dns= would be in /lib/ndb/local - 'man 6 ndb' for information.
