Re: [9fans] KerTeX: e-TeX, CWEB and packaging!
Voting Thierry for #1 poster of 2012 [so far] Looking forward to trying the new release! John On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:02 PM, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: Hello, A supplementary note for Plan9 users before reproducing the announce. I was testing the new version on Plan9 when the infamous Disk full error occured [my plan9 installation is still the initial one...]. So I have tested the compilation. The installation should go without problem, but there is a new thing that I have not tested: the new! packaging system. More précisely, to install LaTeX for example there is a pkg_latex.sh scripts that handles everything. The problem is not here, but in the system dependent part of pkglib.sh, indeed the http/ftp retriever (with a own pkg syntax). I have written it before testing... and have not tested. It would be mere chance if this preliminary version has no blunder (the script is short; but that's never prevented me from doing obvious stupid mistakes). So be careful... or courageous. [I will redo entirely the install sometimes in the week...]. Now, the official announce: == The 0..0.2 version of kerTeX has been released. This version includes: - NEW! NTS team' e-TeX (e-TeX passes the 3 steps ETRIP test); for the ones unaware, amongst other things, e-TeX offers left-to-right and right-to-left... - NEW! Donald E. Knuth and Silvio Levy' CWEB programs (CWEBINPUTS accept the same syntax for path searching as the other kerTeX programs: colon separated alternatives); - NEW! A packaging system! kerTeX passes the TRAP (METAFONT), TRIP (TeX), TWIST (New name for MetaPost torture test) and ETRIP (NTS e-TeX) tests. WHAT IS KERTEX? KerTeX aims to be a portable, maintainable, small and robust TeX kernel System, providing the basis upon which everything depends: D.E. Knuth's digital typography programs. It has maximum portability: C89 and that's all the binaries program. For running, one program---MetaPost---depends on a handful Bourne shell script. For the administration of the system, we use only a limited subset of essential POSIX.2 tools (that can typically be found on Plan9). KerTex has to be thought as a guest system: it is hosted by an OS. Once kerTeX is ported to the OS, the ideal would be that TeXpkg are solely the problem of kerTeX: one packages for kerTeX, and the host system has nothing to worry about. KerTeX is small (see LISEZ.MOI/README): - 10 Mb of sources to download. - The sources are taken read-only by the R.I.S.K framework. So one needs, at least... 16 Mb of writable space to compile and package (with R.I.S.K SAVE_SPACE=YES option, that removes all intermediary products---including the generated Makefiles...---once a target is obtained (make SAVE_SPACE=YES; make SAVE_SPACE=yes pkg). - The initial installation needs 16 Mb of free space. - After installation, kerTeX uses its own packaging system to compile the dumps (for METAFONT, TeX, e-TeX and MetaPost) and to generate the fonts and derived TFM. It is so for not running the compiler/interpreter as root. This adds 9 Mb to the base system. So it needs apx. 25 Mb to install. TeX THE AWARD WINNING SOFTWARE! AWARDED! best software of 2012! [so far] READ WHAT OTHER CUSTOMERS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT kerTeX! Mr Euclides [Alexandria]: Whoa!... If only I had had it before, I wouldn't have to copy my books by hand! And furthermore, I wouldn't have to answer again, and again and again! the very same question: How were your other books lost ? That's not my _books_ that were lost: that's my time, trying to install another TeX distribution! EXTRACTS FROM THE FAQ Q: We are professionals in the printing business, with professional needs. Do you have a kerTeX-pro? A: no: all our products are professional ones. Q: We were planning to install a TeX distribution. So we have bought a Top10 supercomputer; planned to hire 30 TeX wizards and were in negociation to buy some Megawatts when heating is almost over, and cooling not already there, in order to have cheaper prices. And now, you announce this What shall I do? A: Resp.: sell, fire and revoke. With your pocket money, go to the next supermarket and buy a middle sized programmable toaster. It should have memory enough to cross-compile kerTeX for your wrist-watch. GET THE FACTS! The scientific community has shamelessly hiden what is known as David Hilbert's 24th problem---because it was deemed too hard. Here we restore the facts. David Hilbert has spoken in this way: And last, because it is the most urgent; because it is the most difficult and shall be done first! I'm going to speak about the mathematical typographic problem!
Re: [9fans] KerTeX: e-TeX, CWEB and packaging!
+1 On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 5:41 PM, John Floren j...@jfloren.net wrote: Voting Thierry for #1 poster of 2012 [so far] Looking forward to trying the new release! John On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 3:02 PM, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: Hello, A supplementary note for Plan9 users before reproducing the announce. I was testing the new version on Plan9 when the infamous Disk full error occured [my plan9 installation is still the initial one...]. So I have tested the compilation. The installation should go without problem, but there is a new thing that I have not tested: the new! packaging system. More précisely, to install LaTeX for example there is a pkg_latex.sh scripts that handles everything. The problem is not here, but in the system dependent part of pkglib.sh, indeed the http/ftp retriever (with a own pkg syntax). I have written it before testing... and have not tested. It would be mere chance if this preliminary version has no blunder (the script is short; but that's never prevented me from doing obvious stupid mistakes). So be careful... or courageous. [I will redo entirely the install sometimes in the week...]. Now, the official announce: == The 0..0.2 version of kerTeX has been released. This version includes: - NEW! NTS team' e-TeX (e-TeX passes the 3 steps ETRIP test); for the ones unaware, amongst other things, e-TeX offers left-to-right and right-to-left... - NEW! Donald E. Knuth and Silvio Levy' CWEB programs (CWEBINPUTS accept the same syntax for path searching as the other kerTeX programs: colon separated alternatives); - NEW! A packaging system! kerTeX passes the TRAP (METAFONT), TRIP (TeX), TWIST (New name for MetaPost torture test) and ETRIP (NTS e-TeX) tests. WHAT IS KERTEX? KerTeX aims to be a portable, maintainable, small and robust TeX kernel System, providing the basis upon which everything depends: D.E. Knuth's digital typography programs. It has maximum portability: C89 and that's all the binaries program. For running, one program---MetaPost---depends on a handful Bourne shell script. For the administration of the system, we use only a limited subset of essential POSIX.2 tools (that can typically be found on Plan9). KerTex has to be thought as a guest system: it is hosted by an OS. Once kerTeX is ported to the OS, the ideal would be that TeXpkg are solely the problem of kerTeX: one packages for kerTeX, and the host system has nothing to worry about. KerTeX is small (see LISEZ.MOI/README): - 10 Mb of sources to download. - The sources are taken read-only by the R.I.S.K framework. So one needs, at least... 16 Mb of writable space to compile and package (with R.I.S.K SAVE_SPACE=YES option, that removes all intermediary products---including the generated Makefiles...---once a target is obtained (make SAVE_SPACE=YES; make SAVE_SPACE=yes pkg). - The initial installation needs 16 Mb of free space. - After installation, kerTeX uses its own packaging system to compile the dumps (for METAFONT, TeX, e-TeX and MetaPost) and to generate the fonts and derived TFM. It is so for not running the compiler/interpreter as root. This adds 9 Mb to the base system. So it needs apx. 25 Mb to install. TeX THE AWARD WINNING SOFTWARE! AWARDED! best software of 2012! [so far] READ WHAT OTHER CUSTOMERS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT kerTeX! Mr Euclides [Alexandria]: Whoa!... If only I had had it before, I wouldn't have to copy my books by hand! And furthermore, I wouldn't have to answer again, and again and again! the very same question: How were your other books lost ? That's not my _books_ that were lost: that's my time, trying to install another TeX distribution! EXTRACTS FROM THE FAQ Q: We are professionals in the printing business, with professional needs. Do you have a kerTeX-pro? A: no: all our products are professional ones. Q: We were planning to install a TeX distribution. So we have bought a Top10 supercomputer; planned to hire 30 TeX wizards and were in negociation to buy some Megawatts when heating is almost over, and cooling not already there, in order to have cheaper prices. And now, you announce this What shall I do? A: Resp.: sell, fire and revoke. With your pocket money, go to the next supermarket and buy a middle sized programmable toaster. It should have memory enough to cross-compile kerTeX for your wrist-watch. GET THE FACTS! The scientific community has shamelessly hiden what is known as David Hilbert's 24th problem---because it was deemed too hard. Here we restore the facts. David
[9fans] KerTeX: e-TeX, CWEB and packaging!
Hello, A supplementary note for Plan9 users before reproducing the announce. I was testing the new version on Plan9 when the infamous Disk full error occured [my plan9 installation is still the initial one...]. So I have tested the compilation. The installation should go without problem, but there is a new thing that I have not tested: the new! packaging system. More précisely, to install LaTeX for example there is a pkg_latex.sh scripts that handles everything. The problem is not here, but in the system dependent part of pkglib.sh, indeed the http/ftp retriever (with a own pkg syntax). I have written it before testing... and have not tested. It would be mere chance if this preliminary version has no blunder (the script is short; but that's never prevented me from doing obvious stupid mistakes). So be careful... or courageous. [I will redo entirely the install sometimes in the week...]. Now, the official announce: == The 0..0.2 version of kerTeX has been released. This version includes: - NEW! NTS team' e-TeX (e-TeX passes the 3 steps ETRIP test); for the ones unaware, amongst other things, e-TeX offers left-to-right and right-to-left... - NEW! Donald E. Knuth and Silvio Levy' CWEB programs (CWEBINPUTS accept the same syntax for path searching as the other kerTeX programs: colon separated alternatives); - NEW! A packaging system! kerTeX passes the TRAP (METAFONT), TRIP (TeX), TWIST (New name for MetaPost torture test) and ETRIP (NTS e-TeX) tests. WHAT IS KERTEX? KerTeX aims to be a portable, maintainable, small and robust TeX kernel System, providing the basis upon which everything depends: D.E. Knuth's digital typography programs. It has maximum portability: C89 and that's all the binaries program. For running, one program---MetaPost---depends on a handful Bourne shell script. For the administration of the system, we use only a limited subset of essential POSIX.2 tools (that can typically be found on Plan9). KerTex has to be thought as a guest system: it is hosted by an OS. Once kerTeX is ported to the OS, the ideal would be that TeXpkg are solely the problem of kerTeX: one packages for kerTeX, and the host system has nothing to worry about. KerTeX is small (see LISEZ.MOI/README): - 10 Mb of sources to download. - The sources are taken read-only by the R.I.S.K framework. So one needs, at least... 16 Mb of writable space to compile and package (with R.I.S.K SAVE_SPACE=YES option, that removes all intermediary products---including the generated Makefiles...---once a target is obtained (make SAVE_SPACE=YES; make SAVE_SPACE=yes pkg). - The initial installation needs 16 Mb of free space. - After installation, kerTeX uses its own packaging system to compile the dumps (for METAFONT, TeX, e-TeX and MetaPost) and to generate the fonts and derived TFM. It is so for not running the compiler/interpreter as root. This adds 9 Mb to the base system. So it needs apx. 25 Mb to install. TeX THE AWARD WINNING SOFTWARE! AWARDED! best software of 2012! [so far] READ WHAT OTHER CUSTOMERS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT kerTeX! Mr Euclides [Alexandria]: Whoa!... If only I had had it before, I wouldn't have to copy my books by hand! And furthermore, I wouldn't have to answer again, and again and again! the very same question: How were your other books lost ? That's not my _books_ that were lost: that's my time, trying to install another TeX distribution! EXTRACTS FROM THE FAQ Q: We are professionals in the printing business, with professional needs. Do you have a kerTeX-pro? A: no: all our products are professional ones. Q: We were planning to install a TeX distribution. So we have bought a Top10 supercomputer; planned to hire 30 TeX wizards and were in negociation to buy some Megawatts when heating is almost over, and cooling not already there, in order to have cheaper prices. And now, you announce this What shall I do? A: Resp.: sell, fire and revoke. With your pocket money, go to the next supermarket and buy a middle sized programmable toaster. It should have memory enough to cross-compile kerTeX for your wrist-watch. GET THE FACTS! The scientific community has shamelessly hiden what is known as David Hilbert's 24th problem---because it was deemed too hard. Here we restore the facts. David Hilbert has spoken in this way: And last, because it is the most urgent; because it is the most difficult and shall be done first! I'm going to speak about the mathematical typographic problem! We hear: TeX-easy ignorabimus: we don't know how to install TeX easily, and we will never know. I say: TeX-easy ignoramus: we don't know _yet_! But because typography must help the mind; must be by its clarity
