Re: [9fans] lenovo or other laptop support
I've just tried booting Plan 9 on a borrowed SL510 (very low-end and low-cost but still thinkpad-branded Lenovo). Seems to run OK; ethernet works; disk works if bios ahci config is set to compatible. Vesa vga didn't seem to offer anything better than 1024x768.
Re: [9fans] lenovo or other laptop support
quans...@quanstro.net (erik quanstrom) writes: at coraid, we're considering asking new hires use ed for a week exclusively. Does it count if I already did that? :) http://chneukirchen.org/blog/archive/2010/09/the-week-of-ed.html -- Christian Neukirchen chneukirc...@gmail.com http://chneukirchen.org
Re: [9fans] lenovo or other laptop support
On Apr 30, 6:08 am, smi...@zenzebra.mv.com wrote: Has anybody come across a ThinkPad that ISN'T well-supported by Plan 9? IBM TPs are notorious for being Linux-friendly; it makes sense that they'd tend to be 9-friendly, too. I have a Thinkpad X31: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X31. It has not cdrom or dvd drive, which make the installation much more difficult. One solution was to buy a X3 UltraBase and then I was able to start the installation as normal (an external usb dvd drive didn' t work ). The live mode give me a problem with the graphic card and rio didn't start, but in the installation option rio worked without problems and I completed the installation. When I rebooted I got the same error with the graphic card as I got in the live mode. I think editing the 9fat.ini should resolve the problem, but I have to learn how to edit files in Plan9 without rio. The graphic card is not supported (I think so: http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/Supported_PC_hardware/index.html ) but it should work with vesa or the mode used in the installation mode. Antonio
Re: [9fans] lenovo or other laptop support
I completed the installation. When I rebooted I got the same error with the graphic card as I got in the live mode. I think editing the 9fat.ini should resolve the problem, but I have to learn how to edit files in Plan9 without rio. The graphic card is not supported (I think so: http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/Supported_PC_hardware/index.html ) but it should work with vesa or the mode used in the installation mode. this comment has come up a couple of times recently. how do i edit a file without rio. it's quite amazing to me that this appears to be an open question in many people's mind these days. ed(1) has been the answer for a long time—maybe 35 years. but that seems to have been forgotten. (you can use sam -d, but that's a little wierd for most tasks. very powerful, though.) and i think that's a big loss. there are plenty of cases where it's just too anoying to use rio, such as on a serial console*. since i administer 10s of cpu servers at 4 sites, i use ed within acme (!) to edit things in 9fat. it's often much easier than putting those things in acme's namespace. at coraid, we're considering asking new hires use ed for a week exclusively. - erik * historical irony notwithstanding.
Re: [9fans] lenovo or other laptop support
In article 271f1d4632de477f20e2dfe627cfd...@brasstown.quanstro.net you write: at coraid, we're considering asking new hires use ed for a week exclusively. As the only real Unix/Linux expert at my previous company, I used to tell people that the way to really learn to become comfortable as a command line user was to disconnect the mouse for a month. Not that anyone actually bothered to do it, but I think they understood my point. Erik, if you do ask your new hires to use ed, make it 2 weeks or a month. That will cement regular expressions into their heads really well. -- Aharon (Arnold) Robbins arnold AT skeeve DOT com P.O. Box 354Home Phone: +972 8 979-0381 Nof Ayalon Cell Phone: +972 50 729-7545 D.N. Shimshon 99785 ISRAEL
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On Wed May 4 15:32:42 EDT 2011, arn...@skeeve.com wrote: In article 271f1d4632de477f20e2dfe627cfd...@brasstown.quanstro.net you write: at coraid, we're considering asking new hires use ed for a week exclusively. As the only real Unix/Linux expert at my previous company, I used to tell people that the way to really learn to become comfortable as a command line user was to disconnect the mouse for a month. Not that anyone actually bothered to do it, but I think they understood my point. Erik, if you do ask your new hires to use ed, make it 2 weeks or a month. That will cement regular expressions into their heads really well. we'll see how much they know, that's for sure! - erik
Re: [9fans] lenovo or other laptop support
at coraid, we're considering asking new hires use ed for a week exclusively. sam -d allowed? :) -- vs
[9fans] lenovo or other laptop support
I remember hearing that some of the lenovo's thinkpads have good plan 9 support. Does anyone have a list of laptop models that are known to work with at least the basics (video, net, and maybe even sound)? Thanks, EBo --
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we've had good luck recently with x300 and x61 ron
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On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 7:31 AM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: we've had good luck recently with x300 and x61 ron x201 tablet also works. John
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everything but the wifi works on T61p and X200. -Skip On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 7:43 AM, John Floren j...@jfloren.net wrote: On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 7:31 AM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: we've had good luck recently with x300 and x61 ron x201 tablet also works. John
Re: [9fans] lenovo or other laptop support
The T410 mostly works: ethernet, (vesa) video, lower-speed usb. It has two EHCI controllers and that seems to interfere with high-speed usb so far. Haven't tried wifi but I wouldn't expect it to work.
Re: [9fans] lenovo or other laptop support
I've got a T23 that use to work great. The battery's definitely been a problem lately, but that's what wall warts are for! On Apr 29, 2011, at 6:46 PM, ge...@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote: The T410 mostly works: ethernet, (vesa) video, lower-speed usb. It has two EHCI controllers and that seems to interfere with high-speed usb so far. Haven't tried wifi but I wouldn't expect it to work.
Re: [9fans] lenovo or other laptop support
Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com writes: I've got a T23 that use to work great. The battery's definitely been a problem lately, but that's what wall warts are for! I have a T23, and Plan 9 works OK on it, except that I need to boot with sdC0dma=1 and can't seem to figure out how to get audio working. The machine tells me it has an AC97 audio device. Although the kernel recognizes the PCMCIA, I haven't tried using it yet. The screen also goes wierd when the lid is shut. Running aux/vga restores the screen to a correct state, but it's a minor inconvenience. Maybe someday I'll debug that glitch. Has anybody come across a ThinkPad that ISN'T well-supported by Plan 9? IBM TPs are notorious for being Linux-friendly; it makes sense that they'd tend to be 9-friendly, too. -- +---+ |E-Mail: smi...@zenzebra.mv.com PGP key ID: BC549F8B| |Fingerprint: 9329 DB4A 30F5 6EDA D2BA 3489 DAB7 555A BC54 9F8B| +---+
