Re: [9fans] usbohci in pccpuf
On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 01:56:07PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: Hello 9fans, Jsyk, I had to comment out usbohci in /sys/src/9/pc/pccpuf for the usb keyboard to work with a freshly built 9pccpuf. (there's only usb ports on the eserver 325). System pulled last friday (06/06/08). Cheers, Mathieu. likely if you turn off usb legacy in bios, you will be able to use the standard kernel. I've just tried, it doesn't seem to change anything on that matter. Well, it's not blocking for me in that case anyway, I can live without usbohci. Mathieu.
Re: [9fans] usbohci in pccpuf
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:17:20AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: Jsyk, I had to comment out usbohci in /sys/src/9/pc/pccpuf for the usb keyboard to work with a freshly built 9pccpuf. (there's only usb ports on the eserver 325). System pulled last friday (06/06/08). Cheers, Mathieu. likely if you turn off usb legacy in bios, you will be able to use the standard kernel. I've just tried, it doesn't seem to change anything on that matter. Well, it's not blocking for me in that case anyway, I can live without usbohci. you also need to start usb/usbd and usb/kb, at least. yes, but if you need the keyboard to enter stuff during boot time, like the authid, or the path to the filesystem, then it's not possible because I think those choices happen before the point where those commands can be issued, right? Unless there is some place other than cpurc where I could set those commands?
Re: [9fans] usbohci in pccpuf
There is no support for usb keyboards. Well, nemo implemented it some billions of years ago, and the code is bittrotting somewhere in sources (which incidentally is down, as usual). So, lets just pretend usb keyboards don't exist (or that all bioses support the 'emulate ancient keyboards' switch and will do so for the rest of eternity). uriel On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 5:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:17:20AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: Jsyk, I had to comment out usbohci in /sys/src/9/pc/pccpuf for the usb keyboard to work with a freshly built 9pccpuf. (there's only usb ports on the eserver 325). System pulled last friday (06/06/08). Cheers, Mathieu. likely if you turn off usb legacy in bios, you will be able to use the standard kernel. I've just tried, it doesn't seem to change anything on that matter. Well, it's not blocking for me in that case anyway, I can live without usbohci. you also need to start usb/usbd and usb/kb, at least. yes, but if you need the keyboard to enter stuff during boot time, like the authid, or the path to the filesystem, then it's not possible because I think those choices happen before the point where those commands can be issued, right? Unless there is some place other than cpurc where I could set those commands?
Re: [9fans] usbohci in pccpuf
yes, but if you need the keyboard to enter stuff during boot time, like the authid, or the path to the filesystem, then it's not possible because I think those choices happen before the point where those commands can be issued, right? Unless there is some place other than cpurc where I could set those commands? yes, if that is the case, you're in a pickle. however, if you have a place for local nvram and you make sure your plan9.ini file (or pxe version thereof) specifies the path to the fs, you can still boot to a native usb kbd. if you can't resolve one of those issues, you will likely need to add some code to the init process and link usb/usbd and usb/kb into the kernel. - or - if you have working ethernet, the cec patches that i submitted a year or so ago will allow you to enter very early boot information using cec(8). i also have a prototype 9load that will also interact via cec. an older version of cec is part of the distribution. my current version is in /n/sources/contrib/quanstro/src/cec. i'd be happy to put the kernel patches somewhere if folks would find it useful. - erik
Re: [9fans] usbohci in pccpuf
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:25 PM, Uriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [top-posting fixed] On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 5:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:17:20AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: you also need to start usb/usbd and usb/kb, at least. yes, but if you need the keyboard to enter stuff during boot time, like the authid, or the path to the filesystem, then it's not possible because I think those choices happen before the point where those commands can be issued, right? Pretty sure you're right. This situation looks to me like one that could be avoided by replacing 9load with a proper kernel - otherwise we'd have to teach 9load about usb, no? There is no support for usb keyboards. Well, nemo implemented it some billions of years ago, and the code is bittrotting somewhere in sources (which incidentally is down, as usual). I understand your frustration uriel, but if you read carefully you'll notice erik's message here makes a reference to usb/kb. Which suggests to me that usb keyboards have some support nowadays. Some things change for the better :) -sqweek
Re: [9fans] usbohci in pccpuf
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Charles Forsyth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: or that all bioses support the 'emulate ancient keyboards' switch and will do so for the rest of eternity). probably. it's needed for DOS I used to need it for FreeBSD too... cuz their USB support pretty well sucked too for a long time. (USB printers could crash the whole OS back in the day... not sure how 7 is.)
Re: [9fans] usbohci in pccpuf
Hello 9fans, Jsyk, I had to comment out usbohci in /sys/src/9/pc/pccpuf for the usb keyboard to work with a freshly built 9pccpuf. (there's only usb ports on the eserver 325). System pulled last friday (06/06/08). Cheers, Mathieu. likely if you turn off usb legacy in bios, you will be able to use the standard kernel. - erik
