Re: [9fans] Plan9 on virtual machine in Mac os

[Ethan Gardener]

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020, at 9:30 PM, Nicolas S. Montanaro wrote:
> VMware works excellently with 9front on macOS. No quirks - just install 
> as usual.

9vx doesn't even require installation as such, which is nice but doesn't matter 
so much in the long term. (but i did have trouble getting vmware itself 
installed in windows 7 a couple of years ago.) how is network setup in vmware?

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Re: [9fans] Plan9 on virtual machine in Mac os

[Ethan Gardener]

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020, at 8:11 PM, Brian L. Stuart wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 25, 2020, 02:02:40 PM EDT, Ethan Gardener 
>  wrote:
> > i still miss 9vx. it was so convenient when it
> > worked. fun too; i had it full-screened in a little
> > ...
> 
> Was? I still use it everyday. It's my primary
> terminal. I have it take the root from my file
> server when I'm on my home network, and
> off a little local mini root when I'm not.

it doesn't work on 64-bit only linux or freebsd, and it can't work at all on 
windows due to some page size issue, so i haven't had an os to run it on for 
many years. that might not be quite true, i probably had multilib linux at some 
points, but i didn't need it when i ran plan 9 native on my laptops. i have 
ergonomic issues which are getting worse with age, and so i stopped using 
laptops.

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Re: [9fans] Plan9 on virtual machine in Mac os

[Skip Tavakkolian]

Harassing part costs extra :)

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 2:36 PM Mark Everett  wrote:

> Thanks to all. I appreciate your support. And its nice to find a forum
> where everyone isn’t harassing…..
>
> — Mark
>
>
> On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:44 AM, Cyber Fonic  wrote:
>
> As for strings to pull, try:
>
> String 1 
>
> String 2 
>
> Hope that helps !  It's where I launched my research from.
>
>
> On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 12:33, Mark Everett  wrote:
>
>> Mostly a lurker so far, but wanted to try the actual system rather than
>> plan9port.  But sometimes getting actual hardware up an running is a steep
>> first step :-)
>> 
>> Does anyone know of a virtual machine running on current Mac OS that
>> hosts plan9?  Preferably one that isn’t too difficult to set up….
>> 
>> Also, I’m a little unclear on what the advantages/disadvantages of the
>> various forks of plan9 are best on, their audience, etc. And it seems
>> somewhat difficult to determine where to find the code for the different
>> forks. Most likely I’m just not paying attention….
>> 
>> I do have a pi 4 but probably not the one with the wall wart fix. Is Mr.
>> Miller’s code all in one place? Where is it publicly available?
>> 
>> Is there some repository for add-on file systems ala 9P2000 in one place.
>> If not the actual code, perhaps pointers to the actual repositories.
>> 
>> Sorry if it appears that I’m not digging in to find this information
>> myself, but I can’t seem to find the end of the string to pull…
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Lurker Mark
>> 
>
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Re: [9fans] Plan9 on virtual machine in Mac os

[Mark Everett]

Thanks to all. I appreciate your support. And its nice to find a forum where 
everyone isn’t harassing…..

— Mark


> On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:44 AM, Cyber Fonic  wrote:
> 
> As for strings to pull, try:
> 
> String 1 
> 
> String 2 
> 
> Hope that helps !  It's where I launched my research from.
> 
> 
> On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 12:33, Mark Everett  > wrote:
> Mostly a lurker so far, but wanted to try the actual system rather than 
> plan9port.  But sometimes getting actual hardware up an running is a steep 
> first step :-)
> 
> Does anyone know of a virtual machine running on current Mac OS that hosts 
> plan9?  Preferably one that isn’t too difficult to set up….
> 
> Also, I’m a little unclear on what the advantages/disadvantages of the 
> various forks of plan9 are best on, their audience, etc. And it seems 
> somewhat difficult to determine where to find the code for the different 
> forks. Most likely I’m just not paying attention….
> 
> I do have a pi 4 but probably not the one with the wall wart fix. Is Mr. 
> Miller’s code all in one place? Where is it publicly available?
> 
> Is there some repository for add-on file systems ala 9P2000 in one place. If 
> not the actual code, perhaps pointers to the actual repositories.
> 
> Sorry if it appears that I’m not digging in to find this information myself, 
> but I can’t seem to find the end of the string to pull…
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Lurker Mark
> 
> 
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Re: [9fans] Plan9 on virtual machine in Mac os

[Nicolas S. Montanaro]

VMware works excellently with 9front on macOS. No quirks - just install as 
usual.
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Re: [9fans] Plan9 on virtual machine in Mac os

[Skip Tavakkolian]

9legacy.org has readymade images to run on qemu and GCE.

http://9legacy.org/download.html

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 6:34 PM Mark Everett  wrote:

> Mostly a lurker so far, but wanted to try the actual system rather than
> plan9port.  But sometimes getting actual hardware up an running is a steep
> first step :-)
> 
> Does anyone know of a virtual machine running on current Mac OS that hosts
> plan9?  Preferably one that isn’t too difficult to set up….
> 
> Also, I’m a little unclear on what the advantages/disadvantages of the
> various forks of plan9 are best on, their audience, etc. And it seems
> somewhat difficult to determine where to find the code for the different
> forks. Most likely I’m just not paying attention….
> 
> I do have a pi 4 but probably not the one with the wall wart fix. Is Mr.
> Miller’s code all in one place? Where is it publicly available?
> 
> Is there some repository for add-on file systems ala 9P2000 in one place.
> If not the actual code, perhaps pointers to the actual repositories.
> 
> Sorry if it appears that I’m not digging in to find this information
> myself, but I can’t seem to find the end of the string to pull…
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Lurker Mark
> 

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Re: [9fans] Plan9 on virtual machine in Mac os

[Brian L. Stuart]

 On Wednesday, March 25, 2020, 02:02:40 PM EDT, Ethan Gardener 
 wrote:
> i still miss 9vx. it was so convenient when it
> worked. fun too; i had it full-screened in a little
> ...

Was? I still use it everyday. It's my primary
terminal. I have it take the root from my file
server when I'm on my home network, and
off a little local mini root when I'm not.

BLS

  
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Re: [9fans] Plan9 on virtual machine in Mac os

[Ethan Gardener]

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020, at 6:39 AM, Cyber Fonic wrote:
> I have been using Russ Cox's 9vx  on OS/X Mavericks 
> with considerable success. The only issue being that I need to connect a 
> Logitech 3 button mouse via a Unifying RF dongle (BlueTooth mice don't work 
> for me).

i still miss 9vx. it was so convenient when it worked. fun too; i had it 
full-screened in a little laptop & it felt like it was native. i've tried to 
use inferno in the same way, but i found it rougher than plan 9 and it lacks 
awk.

> Personally I find the 9vx environment more to my liking as I can edit code 
> with vim, use Finder, etc using OS/X concurrently with Plan9 -- yes, I know 
> that is heretical to die-hard Plan9 folks, but I'm a *nix guy foremost and a 
> Plan9 newbie.

this was exactly how i used it until i got used to acme, but i also got used to 
eagle mode and badly missed that when i switched to native plan 9. i still miss 
it. if i could code half as well as i'd like to, we'd have a zui file manager & 
notes organizer by now.

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Re: [9fans] Plan9 on virtual machine in Mac os

[Kim Lassila]

On Mar 25, 2020, at 3:32 AM, Mark Everett  wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know of a virtual machine running on current Mac OS that hosts 
> plan9?  Preferably one that isn’t too difficult to set up….

Hi Mark,

I run both 9front and 9legacy on macOS with Qemu. The installation of qemu 
4.2.0 was a breeze via Homebrew:

Mac % brew install qemu

The Plan 9 file server VM boots off a virtual disk image that has 9fat, nvram, 
and fossil. I launch it with the following command:

Mac % cd $HOME/plan9/fs &&
qemu-system-x86_64 -m 512 -name 'file server' \
-nographic \
-no-reboot \
-drive 'if=none,id=hd,file=fossil.raw,format=raw' \
-device 'virtio-scsi-pci,id=scsi' -device 'scsi-hd,drive=hd' \
-device virtio-net-pci,netdev=n0,mac=52:54:00:09:09:02 \
-netdev user,id=n0,hostfwd=tcp::564-:564

The Plan 9 terminal boots directly off a 9front kernel supplied on the command 
line. I launch the VM with this command:

Mac % cd $HOME/plan9/terminal &&
qemu-system-x86_64 -m 1024 -kernel 9pc64 -initrd plan9.ini \
-name terminal \
-no-reboot \
-device virtio-net-pci,netdev=n0,mac=52:54:00:09:09:09 \
-netdev user,id=n0,hostfwd=tcp::8080-:80 2>&1 | grep -v 'multiboot knows VBE'

I was testing a simple web server written in Go on the terminal and that’s why 
I am forwarding tcp port 8080 into it. 

It took quite a lot of iterations to get these commands right. Hope this helps.

Kim


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Re: [9fans] Plan9 on virtual machine in Mac os

[Cyber Fonic]

As for strings to pull, try:

String 1 

String 2 

Hope that helps !  It's where I launched my research from.


On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 12:33, Mark Everett  wrote:

> Mostly a lurker so far, but wanted to try the actual system rather than
> plan9port.  But sometimes getting actual hardware up an running is a steep
> first step :-)
> 
> Does anyone know of a virtual machine running on current Mac OS that hosts
> plan9?  Preferably one that isn’t too difficult to set up….
> 
> Also, I’m a little unclear on what the advantages/disadvantages of the
> various forks of plan9 are best on, their audience, etc. And it seems
> somewhat difficult to determine where to find the code for the different
> forks. Most likely I’m just not paying attention….
> 
> I do have a pi 4 but probably not the one with the wall wart fix. Is Mr.
> Miller’s code all in one place? Where is it publicly available?
> 
> Is there some repository for add-on file systems ala 9P2000 in one place.
> If not the actual code, perhaps pointers to the actual repositories.
> 
> Sorry if it appears that I’m not digging in to find this information
> myself, but I can’t seem to find the end of the string to pull…
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Lurker Mark
> 

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Re: [9fans] Plan9 on virtual machine in Mac os

[Cyber Fonic]

I have been using Russ Cox's 9vx  on OS/X Mavericks
with considerable success.  The only issue being that I need to connect a
Logitech 3 button mouse via a Unifying RF dongle (BlueTooth mice don't work
for me).

Although 9vx is somewhat minimal, I download sources as I require them
from 9p.io
website .

Richard Millers Plan9 port 
works fine for me on an older RPi - B (?)  using the same mouse that I use
with MBP.

Personally I find the 9vx environment more to my liking as I can edit code
with vim, use Finder, etc using OS/X concurrently with Plan9 -- yes, I know
that is heretical to die-hard Plan9 folks, but I'm a *nix guy foremost and
a Plan9 newbie.

Pardon the confusion over which model RPi I am using. I have several from
different releases and I get confused as to which one I am using at any
given time. Swapping SDHC cards, etc



On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 12:33, Mark Everett  wrote:

> Mostly a lurker so far, but wanted to try the actual system rather than
> plan9port.  But sometimes getting actual hardware up an running is a steep
> first step :-)
> 
> Does anyone know of a virtual machine running on current Mac OS that hosts
> plan9?  Preferably one that isn’t too difficult to set up….
> 
> Also, I’m a little unclear on what the advantages/disadvantages of the
> various forks of plan9 are best on, their audience, etc. And it seems
> somewhat difficult to determine where to find the code for the different
> forks. Most likely I’m just not paying attention….
> 
> I do have a pi 4 but probably not the one with the wall wart fix. Is Mr.
> Miller’s code all in one place? Where is it publicly available?
> 
> Is there some repository for add-on file systems ala 9P2000 in one place.
> If not the actual code, perhaps pointers to the actual repositories.
> 
> Sorry if it appears that I’m not digging in to find this information
> myself, but I can’t seem to find the end of the string to pull…
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Lurker Mark
> 

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