Re: [9fans] clarification needed

[balaji]

weren't you blissfully semi retired?

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.com wrote:
 You bet your ass. You're not playing with children here!

 No-one listens to me though.

 I should retire again.

 brucee

 On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:31 PM,  j...@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote:
 Are you? Native? With wireless?

 --jim

Re: [9fans] log oversight

[balaji]

intentional. if you do a ls -ltm, you will see [none] would have
updated smtp*, runq etc...
upas/*, others run as none, and well...

is it a shortcoming compared to unix world? these logs
are not sacrosanct.

On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com wrote:
 I've just built out a new Plan 9 cpu/auth server and noticed that others are
 able to write to the logs.  Is this intentional or just an oversight?


 cpu% ls -l /sys/log
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys          0 Aug  3  2007 /sys/log/6in4
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys          0 Apr 26  2002 /sys/log/aan
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys       9644 Mar 15 19:45 /sys/log/auth
 a-rw-rw-r-- M 2936 bootes bootes  219734 Mar 15 20:30 /sys/log/cron
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys          0 May 21  2000 /sys/log/cs
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys    1273328 Mar 15 20:37 /sys/log/dns
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys          0 Sep 12  2007 /sys/log/fossil
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys       1145 Mar  7 14:55 /sys/log/ftp
 d-rwxrwxr-x M 2936 sys    sys          0 Feb 28 13:32 /sys/log/httpd
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys          0 May 21  2000 /sys/log/imap4d
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys          0 May 21  2000 /sys/log/ipboot
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys          0 Jul 31  2007 /sys/log/ipconfig
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys      29713 Mar 13 01:46 /sys/log/listen
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys        914 Sep 12  2007 /sys/log/mail
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys          0 May 21  2000 /sys/log/nfs
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys          0 May 21  2000 /sys/log/nfsserver
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys          0 May 21  2000 /sys/log/pop3
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys          0 May 21  2000 /sys/log/portmapper
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys          0 May 21  2000 /sys/log/ppp
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys          0 May 21  2000 /sys/log/pptpd
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys        182 Mar 24  2004 /sys/log/runq
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys          0 Jan  5  2005 /sys/log/secstore
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys         69 Mar 24  2004 /sys/log/smtp
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys          0 May 21  2000 /sys/log/smtp.fail
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys       1032 Mar 13 06:56 /sys/log/smtpd
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys          0 Oct 29  2004 /sys/log/smtpd.mx
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys       4965 Mar 14 10:24 /sys/log/ssh
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys          0 May 21  2000 /sys/log/telnet
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys       1764 Mar  8 12:57 /sys/log/timesync
 d-rwxrwxr-x M 2936 sys    sys          0 Feb 28 13:32 /sys/log/timesync.d
 a-rw-rw-rw- M 2936 sys    sys          0 Jul 31  2007 /sys/log/v6routeradv

Re: [9fans] iwp9.org (Re: BibTex collections of all 4 proceedings)

[balaji]

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:08 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:03 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com 
 wrote:

 which one did athens, ga fail?

 I think athens won big on cheap and pretty, and I also think we all
 felt the host (i.e. coraid) was fantastic.

 It was somewhat inconvenient to get to, and people had to pay the cost
 of a rental car.

i believe it had the best combination for a US location. conference,
accommodation, hang out places and entertainment all within
walking distance to each other, priced very reasonably.

 I would not object to going there again, however. But it's also nice
 to be in a city convenient to a different part of the world each year.
 Seattle and SF are good for our friends on the pacific rim.

well, it was not that far away from a very busy international airport with
convenient shuttles (except for you ron, who got in pretty late).

having seen many places in US (conference towns like Vegas, pretty
cities like SF, Boston etc), Athens imo provided the best combination
of everything for a 'non-sponsored' conference (and a terrific host).

balaji

Re: [9fans] higher-end compute server recommendations?

[balaji]

unlike newegg, acmemicro does not stock anything so delivery time is long.

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:58 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
 On Wed Jul 25 00:45:01 EDT 2012, j...@jfloren.net wrote:
 We've got some budget left for hardware, so I'm looking for a server
 suitable for running Plan 9, preferably as good as I can get for about
 $3000-5000. Buying non-Thinkpad Plan 9 hardware is kind of a
 crapshoot, and this isn't just some $100 Atom system, so if any of you
 are running something along these lines, please let me know. I'd most
 like to see lots of cores and lots of RAM, I don't even want storage
 (we've got other methods for storage).

 hey, john, i've had incredible luck with intel servers from supermicro
 for general beat-about servers.

 just as a quick suggestion, i'd look at this server here.

 http://www.supermicro.com/products/system/1U/6017/SYS-6017R-WRF.cfm

 with 8-core socket-r cpus, you can have 32 cores and 128gb of memory
 without stretching the budget too much.  the intel i350 nics work fine,
 but for something that hot, i'd get a myircom or intel 10gbe adapter.

 this was just whatever came up in 5 minutes.  you might want to look
 at this page here for more options

 http://www.supermicro.com/products/nfo/Xeon_X9_E5.cfm?pg=SS

 acmemicro.com (fitting, no?) should have the full range of stuff.

 - erik

Re: [9fans] higher-end compute server recommendations?

[balaji]

true, but one order of mine took 2-3 times longer to fulfill than
newegg. not attempted returns with these guys either. prices were just
about competitive, however, if you're in the bay area you can pick it
up and save shipping. the order was just a bunch of 1U supermicros.

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:47 AM, erik quanstrom
quans...@labs.coraid.com wrote:
 On Wed Jul 25 12:46:23 EDT 2012, balaji.srinivasa+pl...@gmail.com wrote:
 unlike newegg, acmemicro does not stock anything so delivery time is long.


 depends on what you order.  you can call 'em up and get an account.  they'll
 let you know, and help you change your order slightly to meet whatever 
 deadline
 you've got.

 i've done this a few times personally.

 - erik

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

[balaji]

On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 12:50 PM, David du Colombier 0in...@gmail.com wrote:
  I've been trying for about two days to get the stock Plan9 from Bell
  Labs to install with Networking under Virtual Box

 Bell Labs Plan 9 and networking works well in virtualbox 3.1.8 using
 Am79C973 virtual ethernet adapter in bridged mode, chipset PIIX3
 selected and Enable IO APIC turned off.  (Maybe not the only usable
 settings but these work for me.)

 Some newer versions of virtualbox have been reported as problematic.
 You can search for virtualbox old builds on the web.

 I agree with Richard and I can confirm Plan 9 works
 fine in VirtualBox 4.1.24 (2012-12-19).

 It can be downloaded here:

 http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.1.24/

 However, as Richard said, VirtualBox 4.2 is known
 not to work with Plan 9 from Bell Labs.

confirmed working with the same setup (bridged/Am79C973), IDE primary
drive and DHCP.

Re: [9fans] 9n

[balaji]

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:01 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
 On Mon Jun 17 12:55:25 EDT 2013, ara...@mgk.ro wrote:
  a lot of effort has gone into making code public.

 But it would be zero effort if code wouldn't be secret in the first place.

 and usually one gets pissed on for going to the effort.

now we know why this society may exist after all... those who do
something actually get pissed on. why bother even telling the masses
when they know what to expect in return.

Re: [9fans] Vanilla Plan 9 or one of the flavors?

[balaji]

+1

On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:36 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote:

 On Jan 5, 2014, at 8:03 PM, Steven Stallion sstall...@gmail.com wrote:

 There are a few of us that still hold out hope for the Labs
 distribution.

 But realistically, for how much longer?  The past year has shown the love is 
 gone.  I haven't been able to run a labs distribution on physical hardware 
 for years.  Nor on virtual hardware.  It's time to choose a new king ...

 --lyndon

Re: [9fans] [GSOC] plan9 which arch code to use?

[balaji]

When Charles brought up that 64bit binaries can be built from Labs
distribution, it would have been so much simple if either 9atom or
9front owners took a quick look at what was there and confirmed what
he meant by binaries.
To a lot of lurkers it's still not clear what the labs amd64 binaries
are. bootable kernel? commands?

On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:06 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
 On Wed May  7 21:40:05 EDT 2014, k...@sciops.net wrote:
 Quoting Charles Forsyth charles.fors...@gmail.com:

  they weren't shot down, but saying use MY distribution over here,
  or use MY distribution over here,

 what i said was that both 9front and 9atom have the relevant bits in
 an easily accessible location.  i mentioned this in an attempt to be
 helpful, and i'm sorry it was not.

 - erik

Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview

[balaji]

On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 3:23 AM, Pierre-Jean pl...@utroff.org wrote:

 Helped by the various answers and a promotion
 on a webstore, I've purchased a supermicro x9SCAA
 motherboard.
 http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/X9/X9SCAA.cfm

 That might be working out of the box with one or the other
 distribution. I'll make a report here once tested.

I've tried booting from usd cdrom, usb stick both 9labs and 9legacy.
it does not recognize them. this is ICH9R that's claimed to be
supported.

I'm going to try one that has IDE support and ICH9R so it can boot
from cdrom and hopefully then recognize the sata chipset, like this
one:
http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon3000/3210/X7SBi.cfm

Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview

[balaji]

On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 9:20 AM, balaji balaji.srinivasa+pl...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 3:23 AM, Pierre-Jean pl...@utroff.org wrote:

 Helped by the various answers and a promotion
 on a webstore, I've purchased a supermicro x9SCAA
 motherboard.
 http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/X9/X9SCAA.cfm

 That might be working out of the box with one or the other
 distribution. I'll make a report here once tested.

 I've tried booting from usd cdrom, usb stick both 9labs and 9legacy.
 it does not recognize them. this is ICH9R that's claimed to be
 supported.

the board is
http://www.supermicro.com.tw/products/motherboard/ATOM/ICH9/X7SPE.cfm
part of
http://www.supermicro.com.tw/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-PHF.cfm

 I'm going to try one that has IDE support and ICH9R so it can boot
 from cdrom and hopefully then recognize the sata chipset, like this
 one:
 http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon3000/3210/X7SBi.cfm

Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview

[Balaji]

On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 10:02 AM, David du Colombier 0in...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've tried booting from usd cdrom, usb stick both 9labs and 9legacy.
 it does not recognize them. this is ICH9R that's claimed to be
 supported.

 ICH9R should be supported, but the sdiahci driver is not present
 in the installation kernel (pcflop) from the Bell Labs CD image.

 You may try this image, which is not ideal, but has the merit
 to include the sdiahci driver in the pcflop kernel.

 http://9legacy.org/download/9spirit.iso.bz2

winrar says unexpected end of archive when extracting...

Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview

[Balaji]

ok this download worked, may be problem from my side. however, same outcome:

foidn partition #S/sdE0/data 9 625,142,448
disks: sdE0 .. sdE5
trying sdE0:5...dosinit: can't open #S/sdE0:5/9fat
dosinit #S/sdE0:5/9fat failed

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 10:29 AM, David du Colombier 0in...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://9legacy.org/download/9spirit.iso.bz2

 winrar says unexpected end of archive when extracting...

 That's surprising, it works fine here with bzip2 on Plan 9 or Linux.

 Also, these CD images are generated using the same scripts
 as the Bell Labs ones (ie compressed with bzip2 -9).

 % hget -o 9spirit.iso.bz2 http://9legacy.org/download/9spirit.iso.bz2
 % bunzip2 9spirit.iso.bz2
 % sha1sum 9spirit.iso.bz2
 a6599db5660b930b5cbb72626947382db0aebd92 9spirit.iso.bz2
 % sha1sum 9spirit.iso
 f2a5689dbe60fec207bfdce2cb1aa5cd351333d4 9spirit.iso

 You should check the sha1 of the downloaded file matches
 the one from http://9legacy.org/download/9spiritchecksums.txt.

 --
 David du Colombier

Re: [9fans] How do I get a CSR CA's like?

[balaji]

as lucio says, just removing the word SIGNING makes it good.
you can test it here: https://www.sslshopper.com/csr-decoder.html

On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Brantley Coile brantleyco...@me.com wrote:
 I’m trying to buy a certificate.  Actually, I’m trying to *get* a 
 certificate.  They seem to already have my money.  Anyway, they want me to 
 paste a Certificate Signing Request into their web page.  I have done the 
 following:

 dmr% auth/rsagen -b2048 key
 dmr% auth/rsa2csr 'C=US ST=Georgia L=Athens O=South Suite 
 CN=www.etherdrive.com' key xx
 dmr% auth/pemencode 'CERTIFICATE SIGNING REQUEST' xx csr

 I then pasted the contents of ‘csr’ into the page and get “This CSR has an 
 invalid signature!”

 What am I doing wrong?

Re: [9fans] FP register usage in Plan9 assembler

[balaji]

go without the packages will be as useful as java without class libraries.
nothing.
i'm happy they understood the table stakes for a new software/application
development language.
i can also see why they bundled all the compilation stages into one --
script kiddies don't do make files

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Ryan Gonzalez  wrote:

>
>
> On February 4, 2016 10:09:49 AM CST, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
> >> *cough* that's what people said about Java *cough*
> >
> >What, that Java does what it says on the tin? Which tin?
> >
>
> cross-platform development tool
>
> >Lucio.
>
> --
> Sent from my Nexus 5 with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>
>

Re: [9fans] cpu command latency

[Balaji]

the ZKP process involves 3 synchronous round trips. SRP used to have same
problem but they can now do it in 1.5 round trips.

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Skip Tavakkolian <
skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com> wrote:

> it might be worth instrumenting the cpu command to time the authenticaiton
> step. i think that's where the problem is.
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 3:39 PM Skip Tavakkolian <
> skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> what's the latency caused by the auth step?
>> FYI, from Seattle I see about 8 seconds to establish but as Charles
>> noted, it's reasonably fast after that.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 2:05 PM arisawa  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> we can measure the latency that comes from network connection
>>> by executing simple program such as telnet or something others
>>> to the port 8006 of grid.nyx.link. the content is:
>>> #!/bin/rc
>>> cat $net/local
>>> cat $net/remote
>>>
>>> yes the DNS may make a problem in IPv4/IPv6 mixed environment.
>>> my server supports both IPs.
>>> the cpu command will select IPv4. the command does not have “-6” option.
>>> If we want to connect by IPv6, literal IP address is required in the
>>> argument of the command.
>>>
>>> Kenji Arisawa
>>>
>>> > In my experience, it's almost unfailingly the DNS that slows down
>>> > establishing an Internet session of any type.
>>> >
>>> > Lucio.
>>>
>>> > 2016/05/12 0:23、Kenny Lasse Hoff Levinsen 
>>> のメール：
>>> >
>>> > Well, based on the 9fs test that was posted, I'd think dial is being
>>> awfully slow.
>>> >
>>> > Maybe try something simpler? aux/listen1 echo hello and a simple
>>> network connection?
>>> >
>>> > Best regards,
>>> > Kenny Levinsen
>>> >
>>> > On 11. maj 2016, at 16.13, Charles Forsyth 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> On 11 May 2016 at 14:44, Kenny Lasse Hoff Levinsen <
>>> kennylevin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> Delete the channel from /srv in the loop to test a full remote mount
>>> dance, including the initial dial. It shouldn't take 3s to dial, though.
>>> >>
>>> >> There's something initially slow in connecting to  grid.nyx.link with
>>> cpu, and setting up, but once there it's fine.
>>>
>>>
>>>