Re: [abcusers] Any chance of print outs in bass clef?

[Guido Gonzato]

On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, John Chambers wrote:

> Alain Henry wrote:
> | X:1
> | T:Signore delle cime - basse
> | M:4/4
> | L:1/4
> | Q:100
> | K:G clef=bass octave=-1

(snip)

> I've seen that "octave=-1" notation, but I  haven't  implemented  it,
> because  I  don't understand it.  Anyone know what it means, and what
> programs implement it?

it's used by abc2midi to produce notes an octave lower. The latest abcm2ps
accepts this extension and just ignores it.

Ciao,
Guido =8-)

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RE: [abcusers] online abc previewer

[Guido Gonzato]

On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Wil Macaulay wrote:

>  Actually, I just built abcm2ps for Mac OSX - 
> it compiled without any changes.  However I no longer have a
> development system for OS 9.  If anyone is interested I can make
> it available

yes, you could send it to me and I'll make it available at the abcplus site.

Ciao,
 Guido =8-)

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[abcusers] about Signore delle cime

[Guido Gonzato]

On 9 Feb 2003, Alain Henry wrote:

> Example from one of the piece sung at my choral 
> 
> X:1
> T:Signore delle cime - basse
> M:4/4
> L:1/4
> Q:100
> K:G clef=bass octave=-1
> G2 G G | F2 F3/2 F/2 | E E E E | B,2 B,2 | C2 D D |
> w: Di-o del cie-lo, Si-tgno-re del-le ci-me, un no stroa
> G2 G F | A, A, A, A, | B,2 B,2 | E2 E E | A,2 A,2|
> w: mi-co hal chie-stoal-la mon-ta-gna. Ma Ti pre-ghia-mo,
> F2 F F | B,2 (B, A,) | G G E E | B,2 B,2 | C C D D | G2 G2 |
> w: ma ti pre-ghia-mo:_ su nel pa-ra-di-so, su nel pa-ra-di-so
> C2 C C | B,2 E2 | C C D D | D4 | (G,4 | G,2) z2 |
> w: la-seia-loan-da-re per le tue mon-ta_-gne._

this seems truly amazing to me - "Signore delle cime" crossed the
(presumably northern) Italian borders and is sung somewhere else!

Do you know what this song is all about? It's a mountain mourning song,
often sung at funerals when somebody dies in a mountain accident. It's
extremely popular over here in northern Italy. Sadly, I had to sing it when a
friend of mine died at 19 falling from a cliff. Also, I personally met the
author, Maestro Bepi De Marzi, a famous choir conductor.

The excerpt you sent to the list contains spelling mistakes. I'd be very 
grateful if you sent all parts to the list; I'd correct the Italian text
and add an English translation.

Ciao,
 Guido =8-)

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Re: [abcusers] Any chance of print outs in bass clef?

[ANewman110]

This looks fine using iabc, except that I think the cleff that you actually want is
an octave lower.


In a message dated 2/9/2003 2:54:19 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


X:1
T:Signore delle cime - basse
M:4/4
L:1/4
Q:100
K:G clef=bass octave=-1
G2 G G | F2 F3/2 F/2 | E E E E | B,2 B,2 | C2 D D |
w: Di-o del cie-lo, Si-tgno-re del-le ci-me, un no stroa
G2 G F | A, A, A, A, | B,2 B,2 | E2 E E | A,2 A,2|
w: mi-co hal chie-stoal-la mon-ta-gna. Ma Ti pre-ghia-mo,
F2 F F | B,2 (B, A,) | G G E E | B,2 B,2 | C C D D | G2 G2 |
w: ma ti pre-ghia-mo:_ su nel pa-ra-di-so, su nel pa-ra-di-so
C2 C C | B,2 E2 | C C D D | D4 | (G,4 | G,2) z2 |
w: la-seia-loan-da-re per le tue mon-ta_-gne._

Re: [abcusers] Any chance of print outs in bass clef?

[ANewman110]

In a message dated 2/9/2003 10:31:38 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


The reason that "octave=-1" is confusing is that  it's  dealing  with
pitch,  and music notation doesn't have pitch.

I agree that the transposition rules in abc were not well thought out.  There are really 3 different things (pitch, notation, or both) that you might want transposed, and its not clear from the rules what the octave.. and t=.. mean, except by tradition.

If anybody can think of rules that make sense, and that won't break all existing ABC files, I'd be willing to have iabc conform to it.

Re: [abcusers] online abc previewer

[ANewman110]

you might wantto try sourceforge.  They will allow it, and its free.  You have to abide by their rules, though.

Let me know if you want to use the sourceforge abc site.

Aaron

In a message dated 2/9/2003 2:25:51 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> >> I'm not sure my hosting service would allow to run
> applications...

Re: [abcusers] online abc previewer

[Jon Freeman]

From: "Forgeot Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> >> I'm not sure my hosting service would allow to run
> applications...
>
> >Hmmm, that would be a problem...
>
> yes, I tried yesterday, they don't allow this, I uploaded a
> version of abcm2ps I compiled on linux, but they don't even allow
> to change the CHMOD on it so it's not possible to run it. And many
> of your php scripts have functions they don't allow at all, in a
> way they're not wrong because of some abuse...

Do you have a cgi-bin directory? I'm guessing but I've a feeling some ISPs
may not allow a CHMOD but may have a cgi-bin directory set up to allow
execute.

Jon


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RE: [abcusers] online abc previewer

[Wil Macaulay]

 Actually, I just built abcm2ps for Mac OSX - 
it compiled without any changes.  However I no longer have a
development system for OS 9.  If anyone is interested I can make
it available

wilJavaScript:parent.DoCommand("send", parent.form_fr.document.mainForm)

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From: Jack Campin
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 2/8/2003 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [abcusers] online abc previewer

> It looks very good! Is it a result from Abcm2ps? oh yes, probably.
> I think it looks better here (in png) than with ps / pdf on my
> computer. Btw, maybe it could also generate a pdf file (if possible)
> for those who want to print it (not ps, it's useless) ppl who can
> install ghostscript probably don't need to use your tool, they'd
> generate partitions from their own machine...)

Not necessarily - there is no port of abcm2ps for the Mac, but
Ghostscript (and other ways of printing Postscript files) are
available for it.


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[abcusers] online abc previewer

[Forgeot Eric]

>> I'm not sure my hosting service would allow to run
applications...

>Hmmm, that would be a problem...

yes, I tried yesterday, they don't allow this, I uploaded a
version of abcm2ps I compiled on linux, but they don't even allow
to change the CHMOD on it so it's not possible to run it. And many
of your php scripts have functions they don't allow at all, in a
way they're not wrong because of some abuse...

>1) My code is a bit spaghetti here and there. When it goes fast I
find 

btw I don't know much about php and such... so I can't really know
what to do. I'll try it on local, as soon as I reinstall a decent
linux o/s. 

>2) Although I did (re)start some translation (look in lokale) the
>comments to the code are mostly in danish, sorry...

det er ikke noe problem... ;)


>Jack Campin :

>Not necessarily - there is no port of abcm2ps for the Mac, but
>Ghostscript (and other ways of printing Postscript files) are
>available for it.

ah yes, that's right. But if you compile the source of abcmp2ps,
doesn't it work ? Or is it because there is no command line on Mac
? I hope with MacOSX it is o.k. now. 


>Sue Andrews :

>whether 
>there is  way to print
>out fiddle tunes in the bass clef?

yes there is ! :)

or ex. I play this tune on fiddle (it should be cello btw, or
conterbass I can't remember) :

X:41
T:Premier Divertissement - Jupiter modérément (version de travail)
C:Forqueray
O:France
Z:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- http://anamnese.fr.st
M:C
L:1/8
Q:1/4=147
K:Dm
GFE |: DFEF AFED | ^CA,^CE AGFE | FDFA dfed | ^cd^cB ABAG | 
FAdf  agfe | GBdg bagf | ed^cB  Aeae | fgfe dGFE | 
DFEF AFED | ^CA,^CE AGFE | FDFA dfed | ^cd^cB ABAG |
FAdf  agfe | GBdg bagf | ed^cB  AGFE | FGFE DGFE | 

To display it for bass key, just add this :

K:Dm bass
%%MIDI transpose -24

it gives :

X:41
T:Premier Divertissement - Jupiter modérément (version de travail)
C:Forqueray
O:France
Z:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- http://anamnese.fr.st
M:C
L:1/8
Q:1/4=147
K:Dm bass
%%MIDI transpose -24
GFE |: DFEF AFED | ^CA,^CE AGFE | FDFA dfed | ^cd^cB ABAG | 
FAdf  agfe | GBdg bagf | ed^cB  Aeae | fgfe dGFE | 
DFEF AFED | ^CA,^CE AGFE | FDFA dfed | ^cd^cB ABAG |
FAdf  agfe | GBdg bagf | ed^cB  AGFE | FGFE DGFE | 


It works fine even on http://atte.dyndns.dk/lovsang/input.php if
you don't have all the ghostscript things installed on your
system.

For a folk tune it's the same :

just add "bass" in the K: field (it seems it's not necessary to
add %%MIDI transpose -24 (or -12) for the lastest abcm2ps, it is
"intelligent" and can transpose automatically)

X:3
T:Statia Donelly's
R:jig
O:Ireland - Éire
Z:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
M:6/8
L:1/8
Q:3/8=130
K:C bass
E |: AGA cBA | ede ged | ege ede | cec dBG |
 AGA cBA | ede ged | edc BAB | cAA A2 E :|
  |: A2B cBA | c2d ecA | G^FG dBG | dBG BAG |
 A2B cBA | GBA GED | EDC B,A,B,|1 CA,A,A,2 E :| CA,A,A,2 z ||

your son will be able to play all the O'Neill book on cello now !
:)




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Re: [abcusers] Any chance of print outs in bass clef?

[John Chambers]

Alain Henry wrote:
| X:1
| T:Signore delle cime - basse
| M:4/4
| L:1/4
| Q:100
| K:G clef=bass octave=-1
| G2 G G | F2 F3/2 F/2 | E E E E | B,2 B,2 | C2 D D |
| w: Di-o del cie-lo, Si-tgno-re del-le ci-me, un no stroa
| G2 G F | A, A, A, A, | B,2 B,2 | E2 E E | A,2 A,2|
| w: mi-co hal chie-stoal-la mon-ta-gna. Ma Ti pre-ghia-mo,
| F2 F F | B,2 (B, A,) | G G E E | B,2 B,2 | C C D D | G2 G2 |
| w: ma ti pre-ghia-mo:_ su nel pa-ra-di-so, su nel pa-ra-di-so
| C2 C C | B,2 E2 | C C D D | D4 | (G,4 | G,2) z2 |
| w: la-seia-loan-da-re per le tue mon-ta_-gne._

I've seen that "octave=-1" notation, but I  haven't  implemented  it,
because  I  don't understand it.  Anyone know what it means, and what
programs implement it?

Several discussions here have led to the conclusion that,  for  music
formatters, the best way to indicate octaves is the "middle=" clause,
which several programs now implement (and some allow the abbreviation
"m="). This says which abc note maps to the middle line of the staff.
>From the fact that the above uses no lower-case letters and does  use
single commas, I'd guess that the intended notation is "middle=D".

The reason that "octave=-1" is confusing is that  it's  dealing  with
pitch,  and music notation doesn't have pitch.  Notation has vertical
position on a staff, but that's not at all the same  thing,  and  the
two are often quite independent.  The bass clef is routinely used for
instruments that sound in  at  least  three  different  octaves.   So
specifying the octave is useful to an abc player, but it's not useful
to a formatter.  The formatter needs to know the mapping of abc notes
to  staff positions, not the mapping of abc notes to octaves.  Saying
"clef=bass" usually means that the middle staff line is a D,  but  in
abc terms, it could be "d", "D" or "D,". All three are reasonable for
some bass parts.

Much of the confusion in the past has been because discussions  often
go  into  the  areas  of  pitch  and  transposition.   This  leads to
terminology that is confusing for people  writing  music  formatters.
People   try   to   make   sense  of  it,  but  they  have  different
(mis)understandings of the words.  The best way to clear it up is  to
observe that notation doesn't have pitch, and pitch-related terms are
only for players, not formatters.  A formatter is only concerned with
where  a  note  appears  on  the  staff  (or  on  the instrument, for
tablature).  The most useful abc notation would then deal  separately
with  the  pitch and position information, and use different notation
for each.

My inference is that "octave=-1" is aimed at abc players. It's likely
based on the concept that abc notes have absolute pitch, soprano/alto
in this case.  So the "octave=-1" is instruction to a player to  play
them  an  octave  lower  than the treble pitch.  You'd think that the
"clef=bass" would imply this, but stating the octave would  still  be
useful, because of the different octaves used by bass instruments. If
this guess is right, then the above contains a useful hint for an abc
player, but no information for an abc formatter.

I've experimented a bit (in my jcabc2ps clone) with code that guesses
the  mapping  (abc  note  => staff position) if it isn't stated.  The
above sample turns out  to  be  a  useful  example  of  why  this  is
unreliable. This part has a range of "G," to "G". So as a vocal part,
it looks like it's written with D mapped to the middle  line  of  the
bass staff. This could be guessed by counting abc octaves, and noting
that there are ","  notes  but  no  lower-case  notes.   So  guessing
"middle=D" would put most of the notes on the staff. But if this were
the bass half of a piano part, this would probably be wrong.  In  the
common  piano  notation  for  "bass-chord"  accompaniment it would be
normal for bass notes to be below the staff and chords to be  on  the
top part of the staff, giving "middle=d" as the correct mapping. Even
without chords, you sometimes see piano bass parts  that  are  mostly
below the staff.

The program might infer that this is a vocal part from  the  presence
of  "w:" lines.  But now the heuristic code is getting a bit complex,
and when it fails (as it must part of the time),  it  would  lead  to
much user bafflement.

Of course, I'm doing this mostly for use in my abc tune finder, whose
job  is to try to do something sensible with the abc that it finds on
other people's web sites.  No sensible user would expect it to  guess
right  all  the  time,  considering  the  sloppy stuff Out There that
passes for abc.  Sometimes you just have to download the abc, edit it
by hand, and format it locally. This will probably be true long after
all of us have passed on to that great session in the sky.   So  it's
not that big a deal.

Still, it would be nice to get it right most of the  time.   In  this
case, I can't yet, because I can't write code to handle notation that
I don't understand.  And it may be that the  "octave=-1"  isn't  even
int

RE: [abcusers] Everybody SING ALONG!

[Karl Dallas]

The Original Dixieland Jazz Band (or Jass Band, as it said on the
original label) recorded a tune called Palestina which seems to me to be
the first example of a world music jazz hybrid. It can be heard on my
jazz radio show on Tuesday Feb 18, which will be transmitted over the
Internet from http://www.bcb.yorks.com at 20.00 GMT. It will also be
rebroadcast at midnight GMGT on Feb 19.
Palestina has a very Jewish/Middle Eastern feel. I'm thinking of setting
some words about the situation in present-day Palestine to the tune.
--
Karl Dallas
Please note: This is a personal communication, representing my own
personal views, and does not necessarily represent the views of any
organisation with which I may be connected, locally, nationally, or
internationally.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jack Campin
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [abcusers] Everybody SING ALONG!

John Chambers wrote:
> Karl Dallas writes:
>| Next week . . . the Horst Wessel song and other anthems of the
>| Holocaust.
> The silver lining in such things can be the body of good music that is
> sometimes the only way to deal with it. Maybe someone has the abcs ...

I played this tune at the session in Musselburgh on Monday:

X:1
T:Palestine Song
M:C
L:1/8
Q:1/4=80
K:E Dorian
B|E2 E2 G2 G2  |E2  E/F/G/F/ E2 ED |\
  F2 A2 B2 B/A/G   |F2(3E/D/E/   F/G/F HE2:|
B|B2 d2 d2 BA  |B2  dc   B3  z |\
  B2 dc B2 B/A/G/F/|G2  A/G/F/E/ D3  z |
  E2 B2 B2 AG  |FG/F/ (3E/D/E/   F/G/F HE2|]

Then I explained what it was about.  It's the tune for a song by
the German minnesinger Walther von der Vogelweide, written about
1200; the words begin in a tone of mystical exaltation, a pilgrim
talking about his joy in setting foot in the land the Saviour walked
on.  That's the bit that early music groups frequently perform.  It
ends with a call to all-out slaughter of the Saracens.  It was a
rallying cry for what became the Fourth Crusade.

That crusade was bankrolled by the Venetians.  Once the Crusaders
got to Venice (having killed an indeterminate number of Jews along
the way) it was payback time.  The Venetians got them first to
conquer a Christian city in Hungary they'd had their eyes on, and
then went for the big one: the capture of Constantinople and the
ransacking of its wealth for the Venetian treasury (the Lions of
St Mark, still in Venice, were a small part of the booty), with a
regime change installing a Venetian client as ruler of the Byzantine
empire.  The pillage was so thorough that Byzantium never recovered;
250 years later the Turks walked into a ghost town.

The Crusaders never got to Palestine, but the Venetians got what
they wanted.

(There are probably better ways to notate that: I'm reconstructing
what I've heard various early music groups do with it).




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RE: [abcusers] Everybody SING ALONG!

[Karl Dallas]

The Original Dixieland Jazz Band (or Jass Band, as it said on the
original label) recorded a tune called Palestina which seems to me to be
the first example of a world music jazz hybrid. It can be heard on my
jazz radio show on Tuesday Feb 18, which will be transmitted over the
Internet from http://www.bcb.yorks.com at 20.00 GMT. It will also be
rebroadcast at midnight GMGT on Feb 19.
Palestina has a very Jewish/Middle Eastern feel. I'm thinking of setting
some words about the situation in present-day Palestine to the tune.
--
Karl Dallas
Please note: This is a personal communication, representing my own
personal views, and does not necessarily represent the views of any
organisation with which I may be connected, locally, nationally, or
internationally.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jack Campin
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [abcusers] Everybody SING ALONG!

John Chambers wrote:
> Karl Dallas writes:
>| Next week . . . the Horst Wessel song and other anthems of the
>| Holocaust.
> The silver lining in such things can be the body of good music that is
> sometimes the only way to deal with it. Maybe someone has the abcs ...

I played this tune at the session in Musselburgh on Monday:

X:1
T:Palestine Song
M:C
L:1/8
Q:1/4=80
K:E Dorian
B|E2 E2 G2 G2  |E2  E/F/G/F/ E2 ED |\
  F2 A2 B2 B/A/G   |F2(3E/D/E/   F/G/F HE2:|
B|B2 d2 d2 BA  |B2  dc   B3  z |\
  B2 dc B2 B/A/G/F/|G2  A/G/F/E/ D3  z |
  E2 B2 B2 AG  |FG/F/ (3E/D/E/   F/G/F HE2|]

Then I explained what it was about.  It's the tune for a song by
the German minnesinger Walther von der Vogelweide, written about
1200; the words begin in a tone of mystical exaltation, a pilgrim
talking about his joy in setting foot in the land the Saviour walked
on.  That's the bit that early music groups frequently perform.  It
ends with a call to all-out slaughter of the Saracens.  It was a
rallying cry for what became the Fourth Crusade.

That crusade was bankrolled by the Venetians.  Once the Crusaders
got to Venice (having killed an indeterminate number of Jews along
the way) it was payback time.  The Venetians got them first to
conquer a Christian city in Hungary they'd had their eyes on, and
then went for the big one: the capture of Constantinople and the
ransacking of its wealth for the Venetian treasury (the Lions of
St Mark, still in Venice, were a small part of the booty), with a
regime change installing a Venetian client as ruler of the Byzantine
empire.  The pillage was so thorough that Byzantium never recovered;
250 years later the Turks walked into a ghost town.

The Crusaders never got to Palestine, but the Venetians got what
they wanted.

(There are probably better ways to notate that: I'm reconstructing
what I've heard various early music groups do with it).




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Re: [abcusers] Any chance of print outs in bass clef?

[Alain Henry]

I do that in the K: field.  It works at least with yaps to turn abc to
postscript.

Alain

Example from one of the piece sung at my choral 

X:1
T:Signore delle cime - basse
M:4/4
L:1/4
Q:100
K:G clef=bass octave=-1
G2 G G | F2 F3/2 F/2 | E E E E | B,2 B,2 | C2 D D |
w: Di-o del cie-lo, Si-tgno-re del-le ci-me, un no stroa
G2 G F | A, A, A, A, | B,2 B,2 | E2 E E | A,2 A,2|
w: mi-co hal chie-stoal-la mon-ta-gna. Ma Ti pre-ghia-mo,
F2 F F | B,2 (B, A,) | G G E E | B,2 B,2 | C C D D | G2 G2 |
w: ma ti pre-ghia-mo:_ su nel pa-ra-di-so, su nel pa-ra-di-so
C2 C C | B,2 E2 | C C D D | D4 | (G,4 | G,2) z2 |
w: la-seia-loan-da-re per le tue mon-ta_-gne._



On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 16:23, Sue Andrews wrote: 
> I am the parent of two boys who enjoy music and who have recently started to enjoy
> fiddling. I am curious to know on behalf of my cellist son whether there is  way to 
>print
> out fiddle tunes in the bass clef?
> 
> Thanks,
> Sue in Vermont
> 
> Forgeot Eric wrote:
> 
> > >http://atte.dyndns.dk/lovsang/input.php
> >
> > >Feel free to try it out and share any thoughts (please say which
> > >browser and platform).
> >
> > >(sorry, it's only in danish for now, "vis" means "show", "slet
> > alt"
> > >means "clear everything"):
> >
> > Well, gratulieren da !
> > It looks very good ! Is it a result from Abcm2ps ? oh yes,
> > probably. I think it looks better here (in png) than with ps / pdf
> > on my computer. Btw, maybe it could also generate a pdf file (if
> > possible) for those who want to print it (not ps, it's useless,
> > ppl who can install ghostscript probably don't need to use your
> > tool, they'd generate partitions from their own machine...)
> > Anyway, your converter is very conveniant.
> >
> > I wrote the above before you made some changes in the code... I
> > see there is now pdf generation, great.
> > But now it seems the png file has smaller notes hasn't it ?
> > I tried also to use some %%postscript and %%deco codes, and it
> > works perfect (like on my own computer). I'll recommend your site
> > to friends of mine who can't install all the abcm2ps / ghostscript
> > package...
> > Maybe I could also install your php script on my own homepage, but
> > I'm not sure my hosting service would allow to run applications...
> > (I've got the 1st release, but now there seem to be a pb on
> > http://atte.dyndns.dk/lovsang/kildekode-tarball.php )
> >
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