RE: [abcusers] Sorting ABC files

2004-08-12 Thread Derek Bone



Good 
News - I will test it as soon as it is ready and report back any problems, (if 
any)  -  thanks for your prompt attention 
 
Meanwhile, after a long time with no way of sorting large files, we may 
now be spoilt for choice, since I have found a nice way of sorting large files 
with our old favourite abcmus. I have tried before with no luck, but have now 
found how to do it  
After 
trying to split the files into 16000 separate files and merge back together 
incorporating a title sort, I ran up against the limit of about 1000 tunes to be 
merged at one time, meaning 16 sepqrate merges to get 16 files of 1000 tunes and 
then 1 final merge to get the sorted file - it works, but is very 
tediooouus!!
However. having thought that through process, I have now established the 
definitive way of sorting large file in abcmus
Simply 
merge the large file with one new abc tune file and select title sort, and the 
new file is sorted during the merge - took about 3 minutes, and I can't believe 
I have'nt been able to work it out before
This 
means that each times a tune is added, rather than adding it in the main window, 
just merge it using the merge facility and the whole file is resorted each time, 
taking in any amendments to the titles of the existing tunes
The 
large file can then be downloaded to the Palm using the PalmABC program, and it 
is very efficient way of taking just about every tune around with you 
everywhere
The 
files on the PC & Palm are then synchronised each time the Palm is 
synchronised
 
Finally got what I wanted - if any one else is interested in this and is 
struggling please e-mail me & I would be happy to save you all the hassle I 
have had trying to sort it out
 
Thanks 
for all who have tried to help with this over the past few 
months
 
Cheers
 
Derek
 
 
 

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Neil 
  JenningsSent: 12 August 2004 19:37To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [abcusers] Sorting ABC 
  filesI have amended HARMONY to allow files of up to 30Mb, 
  though there may be some degradation of performance with large files. There is 
  no limit to the number of tunes in the file, unless it hits some Windows limit 
  that I don't know about.This will be in version 3.3.3 when I get the 
  chance to upload it - in the next few days, I hope.neilDEREK BONE 
  wrote:
  

Neil 
 
File is approx 7Mb (15,000 tunes), but could get to about 10Mb 
eventually I guess
I don't know how many characters that is, but I suppose each tune would 
average about 500 characters
 
Regards
 
DerekNeil Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
This 
  refers to the number of characters. The limit was imposed because the 
  program uses fixed size arrays for efficient reading of large files. I 
  will increase the limit, and also work to replace the arrays by 
  collections, which do not need bounds or resizing.How large is 
  your file?Derek Bone wrote:
  Neil

I have just tried the new version of Harmony, which now has the ability
to sort abc files by title, and save them in the new sorted order, and
it works very well, but it has a file size limit of '100'

What does '100' refer to, ie lines, tunes, characters ??

For some time I have been trying to find a way to sort a large tunefile
to use on a handheld, since it really is no use unless it is sorted, since
it is albut impossible to find the tune quickly

The file I have in mind currently has about 15,000 tunes, and will continue
to grow as I merge in new tunes - since the idea is to carry all the tunes
on the handheld for use on 'PalmABC', ahich requires all the abc's to be in
one file

Then if I come across a good new tune while out & about, the chances are
I can look it up and learn it without logging on to net

Is it actually necessary to have a maximum file size in Harmony ??

Any ideas

Regards

Derek

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neil Jennings
Sent: 30 November 2003 09:39
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [abcusers] Sorting ABC files


Rewriting the abc file sorted alphabetically has now been implemented, and
will be available in the next release of HARMONY
Neil
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From: "Neil Jennings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 23 November 2003 09:51
Subject: Re: [abcusers] Sorting ABC files


  
I will try and get it ino the next release, due sometime before Christmas

(v 3.2.5 will also support multi-voice abc files and font directives, to
name just a few improvements)
Neil

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From: "Derek Bone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 16 November 2003 21:50
Subject: RE: [abcusers] Sorting ABC files



  Neil

I'd like that facility to be able to rewrite the file in the new
  alphameric

  sequence
If you could add this I would be very grate

Re: [abcusers] Sorting ABC files

2004-08-12 Thread Neil Jennings




I have amended HARMONY to allow files of up to 30Mb, though there may
be some degradation of performance with large files. There is no limit
to the number of tunes in the file, unless it hits some Windows limit
that I don't know about.
This will be in version 3.3.3 when I get the chance to upload it - in
the next few days, I hope.
neil

DEREK BONE wrote:

  
  Neil 
   
  File is approx 7Mb (15,000 tunes), but could get to about 10Mb
eventually I guess
  I don't know how many characters that is, but I suppose each
tune would average about 500 characters
   
  Regards
   
  Derek
  
  Neil Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  This
refers to the number of characters. The limit was imposed because the
program uses fixed size arrays for efficient reading of large files. I
will increase the limit, and also work to replace the arrays by
collections, which do not need bounds or resizing.

How large is your file?

Derek Bone wrote:

  Neil

I have just tried the new version of Harmony, which now has the ability
to sort abc files by title, and save them in the new sorted order, and
it works very well, but it has a file size limit of '100'

What does '100' refer to, ie lines, tunes, characters ??

For some time I have been trying to find a way to sort a large tunefile
to use on a handheld, since it really is no use unless it is sorted, since
it is albut impossible to find the tune quickly

The file I have in mind currently has about 15,000 tunes, and will continue
to grow as I merge in new tunes - since the idea is to carry all the tunes
on the handheld for use on 'PalmABC', ahich requires all the abc's to be in
one file

Then if I come across a good new tune while out & about, the chances are
I can look it up and learn it without logging on to net

Is it actually necessary to have a maximum file size in Harmony ??

Any ideas

Regards

Derek

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neil Jennings
Sent: 30 November 2003 09:39
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [abcusers] Sorting ABC files


Rewriting the abc file sorted alphabetically has now been implemented, and
will be available in the next release of HARMONY
Neil
- Original Message -
From: "Neil Jennings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 23 November 2003 09:51
Subject: Re: [abcusers] Sorting ABC files


  
  
I will try and get it ino the next release, due sometime before Christmas

(v 3.2.5 will also support multi-voice abc files and font directives, to
name just a few improvements)
Neil

- Original Message -
From: "Derek Bone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 16 November 2003 21:50
Subject: RE: [abcusers] Sorting ABC files




  Neil

I'd like that facility to be able to rewrite the file in the new
  

alphameric


  sequence
If you could add this I would be very grateful
I've been after this facility for some time to enable me to make up one
  

big


  alphameric
file for use on my handheld

Thanks

Derek Bone



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neil Jennings
Sent: 16 October 2003 09:08
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [abcusers] Sorting ABC files


My program HARMONY can present the list of files within an abc tunebook
  

  
  in
  
  

  either title or number sequence.
If anyone wants the file written out in a new sequence, I could easily
  

  
  add
  
  

  that facility.
Neil Jennings

(Download HARMONY shareware from www.greenhedges.com. Its original
  

function


  was to add chords to a tune but it now does much more)


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From: "Phil Headford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 16 October 2003 03:34
Subject: [abcusers] Sorting ABC files


  
  
I've written a little routine which runs under Windows 3.1, 95, 98
It's a bit like Noddy, wobbles a bit, but the bell on the hat still

  

rings.


  
Phil (Flos) Headford
fiddle: Old Swan Band, The English Country Dance Band, Cwm Dancing,

  

  
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