Re: [abcusers] Blow, blow, thou winter wind

2004-02-18 Thread Steve Mansfield
Thank you both for the info. Frank, I'll try to track down the Runge or 
Naylor books.

We (Trebuchet) are providing all the music for a production of As You 
Like It, and are currently exploring what's out there for accompanying 
the songs.

Come to the open air theatre season at Gawsworth Hall near Macclesfield, 
England, 22-26th June, to find out what we come up with :-)

Cheers

S

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Re: [abcusers] Blow, blow, thou winter wind

2004-02-18 Thread Frank Nordberg
Steve Mansfield wrote:
Come to the open air theatre season at Gawsworth Hall near Macclesfield, 
England, 22-26th June, to find out what we come up with :-)
Would love to, but I guess a trip corss the NOrth Sea is out of question 
for me this year.

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[abcusers] Blow, blow, thou winter wind

2004-02-17 Thread Steve Mansfield
Help please!

Can anyone point me at any settings (other than Thomas Arne's) of the 
song 'Blow, blow, thou winter wind' from Shakespeare's As You Like It? 
There's nothing coming up on JC's tune finder.

If not in abc, other formats (MIDI, graphics, PDF) would be most 
acceptable. I don't know whether Morley set it, he certainly did 'There 
Was A Lover And His Lass'.

TIA

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Re: [abcusers] Blow, blow, thou winter wind

2004-02-17 Thread Thomas Green
Hi Steve
if you don't get a reply from the abc list, try asking a university person. One 
possibility would be Dr Peter Holman of University of Leeds - he'd know of any C18th 
ones.

Thomas Green

Help please!

Can anyone point me at any settings (other than Thomas Arne's) of the 
song 'Blow, blow, thou winter wind' from Shakespeare's As You Like It? 
There's nothing coming up on JC's tune finder.

If not in abc, other formats (MIDI, graphics, PDF) would be most 
acceptable. I don't know whether Morley set it, he certainly did 'There 
Was A Lover And His Lass'.

TIA


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Re: [abcusers] Blow, blow, thou winter wind

2004-02-17 Thread Frank Nordberg


Steve Mansfield wrote:
Help please!

Can anyone point me at any settings (other than Thomas Arne's) of the 
song 'Blow, blow, thou winter wind' from Shakespeare's As You Like It? 
There's nothing coming up on JC's tune finder.
There is an anonymous tune from the time of Shakespeare (possibly even 
the one used by Shakespeare) in John Runge's It was a lover and his 
lass - a collection of original songs from Shakespeare's plays arranged 
for voice and guitar.
I believe the same tune also is in Edward W. Naylor's great 1898 book 
Shakespeare and Music.
Unfortunately I seem to have lost my copy of Runge's collection, and the 
Naylor book I found at a public library a thousand kilometers away from 
where I live today, so I can't help you much more than that.

I don't know whether Morley set it, he certainly did 'There 
Was A Lover And His Lass'.
He definitely didn't. It was a lover and his lass is the only known 
work by Morley with any Shakespeare association at all, and even then 
there's no reason to believe it to be anything more than that the two 
just happened to pick up and use the same poem. Morley doesn't seem to 
have been involved in theatre/masque at all. That field was mainly left 
for the younger generation of Elizabethan composers like John Coprario, 
Robert Johnson and to some extent the Campian/Rosseter duo and John Dowland.

If you're looking for original Shakespeare music in general, Robert 
Johnson would be the composer to check out. There seem to be strong 
evidence that some of his songs (including Hark, hark the lark, Where 
the bee sucks and Full fathom five) were indeed the ones used by 
Shakespeare.
First you should try to locate a copy of Naylor's book though. And don't 
let the publishing date put you off. Yes, it was written during a period 
when objetivity was a virtue virtually unkown among musicologists, but 
Naylor was unique - with a understanding and *respect* for his sources 
decades ahead of his contemporaries.

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