Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Libreoffice 4.3 and Calc with NVDA

[V Stuart Foote]

For anyone following along, fyi...

The Windows Bug report is  fdo#81098
  
 and the Linux Bug report is  fdo#81264
  , but they will
probably be merged.

Stuart




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Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Libreoffice 4.3 and Calc with NVDA

[V Stuart Foote]

David,

David Goldfield wrote
> What is very odd is that spreadsheet navigation works perfectly with NVDA
> with OpenOffice and I'm under the impression that OO and LO are using the
> same Iaccessible2 code.

Wrong assumption, so while the IAccessible2 (v 1.3) and the same native
Windows bridge is used by both projects, the Office components are rapidly
diverging.  The LibreOffice Calc spreadsheet in particular has been
completely reworked from the OpenOffice.org era--similar refactoring has not
been done with Apache OpenOffice.

Unfortunately, with this new code base in LibreOffice, the triggering of
underlying accessibility events for cursor movements and accessible object
types have not been correctly done.  The shortcomings affect builds for all
OSs.

For Windows users, and indirectly the NVDA project, dumping a Java Runtime
Environment and Java Access Bridge dependency moves things along nicely.  

But there is room for improvements both with the Windows IAccessible2 bridge
implementation as well as instrumenting the GUI with AT tool support.  It is
not just with Calc, but it currently has some annoying behaviors that need
proper bug reporting and developer attention.

Stuart



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Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Libreoffice 4.3 and Calc with NVDA

[Robert Kingett]

I am not sure about anyone else but the spell checking is not read with 
NVDA. I have to mouse over the words and everything within the dialogue 
box. If I try and navigate via keyboard commands in the spelling and 
grammar dialogue, the choices of suggestions are not read


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[libreoffice-accessibility] Libreoffice 4.3 and Calc with NVDA

[David Goldfield]

Hello.
I've had a chance to download and install the official 4.3 build and did some 
testing with the almost latest edition of the NVDA master branch.  I am still 
having a great deal of difficulty successfully navigating in a Calc spreadsheet 
as I receive little or no speech feedback from the screen reader as I use arrow 
keys.  I do not have this problem in Writer, although the "read all" function 
seems to stop prematurely after reading a few lines of text and I believe this 
also occurs with OpenOffice.  What is very odd is that spreadsheet navigation 
works perfectly with NVDA with OpenOffice and I'm under the impression that OO 
and LO are using the same Iaccessible2 code.  Anyway, I wanted to report this 
and am wondering if others can verify my findings.
Btw, I've gone into the view menu and disabled all toolbars and have ensured 
that items like the sidebar are disabled.  However, I'm open to suggestions as 
to techniques I could try in order to improve Calc's accessibility.  Thanks for 
all you're doing.


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