RE: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] [libreoffice-accessibility] keyboard accessibility of new template manager - fdo#61390
From: Markus Mohrhard [markus.mohrh...@googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 3:13 AM >Thanks a lot for your effort rising awareness of these problems. If >you think it is a general problem that we are not paying enough >attention on accessibility support in new dialogs it would be nice if >you could give us some examples so that we can discuss how we can >improve our workflow in the future. Markus, I will try to do exactly that and find an appropriate spot on the Wiki to clarify design and development requirements for support of Assistive Technologies and accessibility, probably with some linkage to standards work of the cognizant organizations. In the meanwhile, testing and understanding requirements for including accessibility is well within the grasp of ANY developer or user of LibreOffice--we just don't think about it. Here is my simple guide--and I am not being flippant--this is a reasonable demonstration. So, if on a GNOME Linux, activate ORCA, on Windows JAWS or NVDA, on OSX VoiceOver--then launch LibreOffice. Now close your eyes (or put on a blind fold) and try to write a document--I won't suggest a spreadsheet, or presentation, or even an illustration although why not? How does that work for you? Is the new Template Manager effective? If we are meeting our responsibilities as supporters of LibreOffice--developers, designers, QA, even users--we should be equally effective working with the Assistive Technologies support exposed with UNO Accessibility API as with moving a cursor with a mouse. Anything less and we are not meeting our responsibilities. If the GUI can not be made to talk, and does not follow reasonable hierarchical structures AT support falters. Put another way, if we can not drive the interface without peeking, how is someone who does not have that option to cope? Additionally, think of the challenge if you can not point with a mouse or type on the keyboard, are we helping those users. Stuart Cross posting to the devs, and accessibility lists, so apologize now to all who receive multiple copies of this post. And again this is not intended to be flippant response, I am simply asking folks to consider accessibility aspect of their individual design and development efforts. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to accessibility+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/accessibility/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] keyboard accessibility of new template manager - fdo#61390
of course that fdo#61389 was a typo for fdo#61390... -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice-accessibility-keyboard-accessibility-of-new-template-manager-fdo-61390-tp4041168p4041177.html Sent from the Accessibility mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to accessibility+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/accessibility/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-accessibility] keyboard accessibility of new template manager - fdo#61390
fdo#61468 was added to mab 4.0, but it needed to be combined with fdo#61389. So used the earlier report on the MAB list. Cross posting this to the UX list because while the the new (at 4.0.0) Template Manager is a a really great feature, it somehow made it through development and QA deficient in its accessibility roles. I hope all can agree that for effective AT, accessibility roles and interfaces really benefit from consistency and a fully instrumented accessibility structure. With so many development channels, it is not clear to me how to achieve that earlier in the component and feature design, But looking at the new Template Manager, in context with long standing accessibility issues with the F11 - Styles & Formatting panel, it is clear that some renewed UX team emphasis on accessibility and support for AT in the user interface is needed. Stuart -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to accessibility+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/accessibility/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-accessibility] keyboard accessibility of new template manager - fdo#61390
This has been filed as LibreOffice bug fdo#61390 - https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61390 and the DEVs of template manager notified. Stuart From: ktc [r...@c-net.us] Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 9:38 AM To: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-accessibility] keyboard accessibility of new template manager Is it on anyone's radar to make the LO 4.x template manager keyboard accessible? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to accessibility+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/accessibility/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
