[AI] India's first accessible restaurant finder & menu reading app - My Take

[ramya]

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India's first accessible restaurant finder & menu reading app - My Take

Anyone can access GoodFoodTalks as easily as an ordinary menu.
People with vision impairments, senior citizens, or those with fading
vision, dyslexia and autism are friendly by nature. They love food and
like to eat out. Most important, they value their independence.
However, when they go to restaurants, their experience is not always
pleasant. One of the problems they face is of reading the menu card and
selecting what to order.
At first, I changed the menus of popular restaurants into Audio and
Braille books. But this was very difficult to maintain over a period of
time.
After research, I decided that the solution created by Matt Wadsworth in
the United Kingdom is what I was looking for. Matt agreed to partner with
me and now Good Food Talks is in India.
Most smartphones, tablets and computers now come with many accessibility
features, including a built-in screen reader that speaks everything out
loud.
GFT is using this to present menus in an easy-to-read and control format
on smart phones and tablets.
Just tap the `Find restaurants near me` button or use the search feature
if you are looking for a restaurant. You will get a list with address,
phone number and distance from your location.
Tap on the name of a restaurant to see menu types, foods and timings.
People who have limited vision, can enlarge the print and highlight
buttons.
Since its launch in Delhi early this year, the app has grown to include
menus of more than 500 restaurants from cities like Mumbai, Bengaluru,
Hyderabad, Jaipur and more.
It will be launched in more cities and probably other countries. I am also
looking to partner with organizations like Zomato to expand the list of
menus.

About the Writer
Prashant Verma is an accessibility expert associated with several
organizations. GoodFoodTalks is a web app that works on all platforms and
devices. Open www.goodfoodtalks.in in any laptop, desktop, tablet or
smartphone, on Android, iOS or Windows, to use it. For information, call
1800 300 20469 or email to g...@saksham.org.



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Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online payments is tough call

[Aravind R]

central government has launched accessible india campaign i think.
there, we have to raise these issues. does any one us know how to
raise these issues there?

On 12/6/16, Leikhu Laishram Leingakpa  wrote:
> Dear All
> Still many of blind customers are denied ATM card, cheque book, net
> banking, etc. by their respective bank branches inspite of having RBI
> circulars asking the banks not to deny these facilities. How can we
> think of cashless economy without fixing these issues.
>
> Leikhu Laishram
>
>
> On 12/6/16, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>> if accessibility is available, there is a CAPTCHA where you have to stuck.
>> e.g. you can book your tickets on IRCTC with OTP, but mostly you can get
>> stucked on CAPTCHA at payment gateways. some payment gateways like IDBI
>> payment gateway are having both CAPTCHA and OTP. one has to fill both the
>> option at the time of making payment.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: George Abraham
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 10:01 AM
>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.'
>> Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
>> payments is tough call
>>
>> This is the fear! Digital India  could easily leave us out.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Sruti disAbility Rights Centre
>> Sent: 05 December 2016 15:49
>> To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
>> phones
>> and Tabs.
>> Subject: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
>> payments is tough call
>>
>> *http://globalaccessibilitynews.com/2016/11/23/for-millions-of-indians-with-disabilities-making-payments-online-is-tough-call/
>> *
>>
>> *BANGALORE, INDIA:* Booking cabs, buying food and making payments online
>> seem like they’re just a swipe and a tap away, but for millions of Indians
>> with disabilities, these apps are not designed for them to use.
>>
>>
>> According to a study conducted by Centre for Internet and Society (CIS)
>> last month, many of the most-commonly used mobile apps for food delivery,
>> online payments, grocery shopping and transportation were not accessible
>> to
>> people with vision disabilities. The study covered 22 apps.
>>
>> The 2011 census puts the number of people with disabilities in the country
>> at 26 million, while advocacy groups say the real figure is closer to 150
>> million. Last year, India recorded nearly nine billion downloads of
>> mobile-based applications last year.
>>
>> “The national policy for universal electronic accessibility says that all
>> IT products and services should be accessible. However, the government is
>> still unable to implement it. Several government apps are inaccessible,”
>> said Nirmita Narasimhan, policy director at CIS. CIS’s survey of some key
>> government mobile based applications like My Gov, EPathshala and Prime
>> Minister Narendra Modi’s official app found them to be severely lacking.
>> The illiterate, aged and those not proficient in English would also
>> struggle with the apps, the study found. The guidelines for government
>> websites laid out accessibility standards in 2009. The 2013 national
>> policy
>> on universal electronic accessibility clearly upholds equal rights
>> “ensuring that accessibility standards and guidelines and universal design
>> concepts are adopted and adhered to.”
>>
>> However, most commonly-used apps fail to follow this. All 22 of the apps
>> studied were privately owned but not all were fully compliant with
>> universal standards. Of taxi-hailing apps Meru, Ola and Uber, only Uber
>> was
>> completely accessible to the disabled. The others had mis-labelled or
>> unlabeled buttons and graphics.
>>
>> When it came to food delivery, Zomato was the best at replicating the user
>> experience for people with disabilities. Swiggy and Foodpanda were
>> difficult for new users, and Freshmenu was completely inaccessible.
>>
>> Of the marketplace apps, Amazon and Snapdeal were the only accessible
>> ones.
>> Myntra and Flipkart had incorrectly labelled buttons and misleading
>> graphic
>> tags, which made them impossible for people with disabilities to use. For
>> instance, customers would be able to select the product they wanted to buy
>> but had no way of choosing the quantity, the study said. Online grocery
>> delivery apps Grofers and Zop Now were hard for people with disabilities
>> to
>> use, while Big Basket was relatively better though pages change during
>> orders. Online payment portals Paytm, Oxigen and FreeCharge were
>> relatively
>> accessible, the study found.
>>
>> “Designers, developers and industries need to realize that there are more
>> people out there who use this technology 

Re: [AI] Smart workarounds

[Shaswat Jena]

Hi Anshul,

FYI we are planning to have Eye-D for iOS users by Feb 1st week.

Hope we live up to your expectations.

Regards,
Shaswat

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Anshul Kapoor (अंशुल कपूर) <
anshul.kap...@gail.co.in> wrote:

> Hi,
> Can we get the same from apple store? Or any similar app of this type
> available for IOS?
>
> With regards
>
> Anshul Kapoor
> Cell- 9958890358.
>
> “”Geography has made us neighbours. History has made us friends. Economics
> has made us partners, and necessity has made us allies. Those whom God has
> so joined together, let no man put as under.
> John F. Kennedy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of Shaswat Jena
> Sent: 06 December 2016 11:56
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Smart workarounds
>
> Hello All,
>
> I'm Shaswat from Eye-D. I'm really sorry that some of your are not being
> able to use the app. Please note that there was an similar issue with the
> Facebook app which resulted in the failure of image sharing and processing
> it externally earlier, so I would suggest you to update your Eye-D app and
> WhatsApp as no such issue is being observed on our end.
>
> Gufran / Vikas,
>
> For better results results please try to hold your phone 15-20 cms above
> the printed document for now. We will be rolling out major OCR and feature
> upgrades gradually to improve your app experience.
>
> Thank you Satguru for answering the queries :)
>
> Please do let me know if you have any queries and suggestions.
>
> Regards,
> Shaswat
>
> Eye-D 
>
> https://in.linkedin.com/in/shaswatjena
>
> National Award Winner (Best Innovators of 2016
> )
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Mujeeb Rahman 
> wrote:
>
> > Super!!
> >
> > On 11/29/16, shankar shan  wrote:
> > > 1. open WhatsApp.
> > > 2. go to the chat from which you got the image.
> > > 3. select the image by dubble tap and long press.
> > > 4. click on share.
> > > 5. click on image recagnation  eye-d app, and wait for the results
> > > from the talkback.
> > >
> > > note: you need internet connection to use this service.
> > >
> > > yes, you can solve the captcha using this app, but, you need to work
> > > around with it.
> > >
> > > here, guess work takes place.
> > >
> > > you cant expect perfect solution from this app.
> > >
> > > this is just my opinion.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/29/16, Mujeeb Rahman  wrote:
> > >> Whatsapp images too will be read! sounds amazing and interesting!!
> > >> Request the steps..
> > >>
> > >> On 11/29/16, shankar shan  wrote:
> > >>> exactly, and also, without sighted assistance,  you can read all
> > >>> the information from the image  which you will get on WhatsApp and
> > >>> other social networking sites.
> > >>> currently, the app is supporting the default language, bbut,its
> > >>> not supporting for other languages.
> > >>>
> > >>> if the person using Arabic language in there windows, it will be
> > >>> very much trubble for them, hence, the app developers has to add
> > >>> the international and indian languages with the app, so that, all
> > >>> lingual people might benifited.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 11/28/16, Prashant Naik  wrote:
> >  Hi,
> > 
> >  As mentioned in the subject sharing one smart workaround. Such
> >  workarounds we all must have innovated while working with access
> >  technologies.
> >  Today
> >  we have multiple devices with A T, combination of them will be
> > helpful.
> >  It
> >  will be a great thing if we share with the A I list for
> >  benefiting others.
> > 
> >  One such case is suppose your PC has a bit locker login where we
> >  need
> > to
> >  enter password for booting of Windows OS.  In such case screen
> >  reader will not get loaded till windows starts.  Many a times we
> >  are unsure what’s on
> >  the screen.   Our dependency on human assistance to move further. In
> >  this
> >  case used Eye-D mobile app’s ‘Read text in image’ option. Wah! It
> >  read screen with text ‘Bit locker enter the pin for windows
> >  drive’.  No
> > more
> >  disturbing colleagues for the help.
> > 
> >  This work around you can use when system hangs and screen reader
> >  is
> > not
> >  responding or in case of reading notifications, messages, alerts,
> >  screens, etc. where screen reader not reaching.
> > 
> >  Do share more.
> > 
> >  Regards,
> > 
> >  Prashant Naik
> > 
> >  9967968881
> > 
> >  Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
> > accessibility
> >  of
> >  mobile phones / Tabs on:
> >  

Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online payments is tough call

[Leikhu Laishram Leingakpa]

Dear All
Still many of blind customers are denied ATM card, cheque book, net
banking, etc. by their respective bank branches inspite of having RBI
circulars asking the banks not to deny these facilities. How can we
think of cashless economy without fixing these issues.

Leikhu Laishram


On 12/6/16, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
> if accessibility is available, there is a CAPTCHA where you have to stuck.
> e.g. you can book your tickets on IRCTC with OTP, but mostly you can get
> stucked on CAPTCHA at payment gateways. some payment gateways like IDBI
> payment gateway are having both CAPTCHA and OTP. one has to fill both the
> option at the time of making payment.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: George Abraham
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 10:01 AM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
> payments is tough call
>
> This is the fear! Digital India  could easily leave us out.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Sruti disAbility Rights Centre
> Sent: 05 December 2016 15:49
> To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones
> and Tabs.
> Subject: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
> payments is tough call
>
> *http://globalaccessibilitynews.com/2016/11/23/for-millions-of-indians-with-disabilities-making-payments-online-is-tough-call/
> *
>
> *BANGALORE, INDIA:* Booking cabs, buying food and making payments online
> seem like they’re just a swipe and a tap away, but for millions of Indians
> with disabilities, these apps are not designed for them to use.
>
>
> According to a study conducted by Centre for Internet and Society (CIS)
> last month, many of the most-commonly used mobile apps for food delivery,
> online payments, grocery shopping and transportation were not accessible to
> people with vision disabilities. The study covered 22 apps.
>
> The 2011 census puts the number of people with disabilities in the country
> at 26 million, while advocacy groups say the real figure is closer to 150
> million. Last year, India recorded nearly nine billion downloads of
> mobile-based applications last year.
>
> “The national policy for universal electronic accessibility says that all
> IT products and services should be accessible. However, the government is
> still unable to implement it. Several government apps are inaccessible,”
> said Nirmita Narasimhan, policy director at CIS. CIS’s survey of some key
> government mobile based applications like My Gov, EPathshala and Prime
> Minister Narendra Modi’s official app found them to be severely lacking.
> The illiterate, aged and those not proficient in English would also
> struggle with the apps, the study found. The guidelines for government
> websites laid out accessibility standards in 2009. The 2013 national policy
> on universal electronic accessibility clearly upholds equal rights
> “ensuring that accessibility standards and guidelines and universal design
> concepts are adopted and adhered to.”
>
> However, most commonly-used apps fail to follow this. All 22 of the apps
> studied were privately owned but not all were fully compliant with
> universal standards. Of taxi-hailing apps Meru, Ola and Uber, only Uber was
> completely accessible to the disabled. The others had mis-labelled or
> unlabeled buttons and graphics.
>
> When it came to food delivery, Zomato was the best at replicating the user
> experience for people with disabilities. Swiggy and Foodpanda were
> difficult for new users, and Freshmenu was completely inaccessible.
>
> Of the marketplace apps, Amazon and Snapdeal were the only accessible ones.
> Myntra and Flipkart had incorrectly labelled buttons and misleading graphic
> tags, which made them impossible for people with disabilities to use. For
> instance, customers would be able to select the product they wanted to buy
> but had no way of choosing the quantity, the study said. Online grocery
> delivery apps Grofers and Zop Now were hard for people with disabilities to
> use, while Big Basket was relatively better though pages change during
> orders. Online payment portals Paytm, Oxigen and FreeCharge were relatively
> accessible, the study found.
>
> “Designers, developers and industries need to realize that there are more
> people out there who use this technology .The market is much bigger and
> they should work towards being inclusive,” said Narasimhan of CIS.
>
> Albinder Dhinda, cofounder of grocery delivery service Grofers, said their
> app meets all accessibility requirements. “However, the disability tools
> provided by Google Play Store or the App Store often don’t benefit the user
> and are hard for them to 

Re: [AI] Smart workarounds

[अंशुल कपूर]

Hi,
Can we get the same from apple store? Or any similar app of this type available 
for IOS?  

With regards

Anshul Kapoor
Cell- 9958890358.

“”Geography has made us neighbours. History has made us friends. Economics has 
made us partners, and necessity has made us allies. Those whom God has so 
joined together, let no man put as under.
John F. Kennedy

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Shaswat Jena
Sent: 06 December 2016 11:56
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Smart workarounds

Hello All,

I'm Shaswat from Eye-D. I'm really sorry that some of your are not being able 
to use the app. Please note that there was an similar issue with the Facebook 
app which resulted in the failure of image sharing and processing it externally 
earlier, so I would suggest you to update your Eye-D app and WhatsApp as no 
such issue is being observed on our end.

Gufran / Vikas,

For better results results please try to hold your phone 15-20 cms above the 
printed document for now. We will be rolling out major OCR and feature upgrades 
gradually to improve your app experience.

Thank you Satguru for answering the queries :)

Please do let me know if you have any queries and suggestions.

Regards,
Shaswat

Eye-D 

https://in.linkedin.com/in/shaswatjena

National Award Winner (Best Innovators of 2016
)


On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Mujeeb Rahman 
wrote:

> Super!!
>
> On 11/29/16, shankar shan  wrote:
> > 1. open WhatsApp.
> > 2. go to the chat from which you got the image.
> > 3. select the image by dubble tap and long press.
> > 4. click on share.
> > 5. click on image recagnation  eye-d app, and wait for the results 
> > from the talkback.
> >
> > note: you need internet connection to use this service.
> >
> > yes, you can solve the captcha using this app, but, you need to work 
> > around with it.
> >
> > here, guess work takes place.
> >
> > you cant expect perfect solution from this app.
> >
> > this is just my opinion.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11/29/16, Mujeeb Rahman  wrote:
> >> Whatsapp images too will be read! sounds amazing and interesting!!
> >> Request the steps..
> >>
> >> On 11/29/16, shankar shan  wrote:
> >>> exactly, and also, without sighted assistance,  you can read all 
> >>> the information from the image  which you will get on WhatsApp and 
> >>> other social networking sites.
> >>> currently, the app is supporting the default language, bbut,its 
> >>> not supporting for other languages.
> >>>
> >>> if the person using Arabic language in there windows, it will be 
> >>> very much trubble for them, hence, the app developers has to add 
> >>> the international and indian languages with the app, so that, all 
> >>> lingual people might benifited.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 11/28/16, Prashant Naik  wrote:
>  Hi,
> 
>  As mentioned in the subject sharing one smart workaround. Such 
>  workarounds we all must have innovated while working with access 
>  technologies.
>  Today
>  we have multiple devices with A T, combination of them will be
> helpful.
>  It
>  will be a great thing if we share with the A I list for 
>  benefiting others.
> 
>  One such case is suppose your PC has a bit locker login where we 
>  need
> to
>  enter password for booting of Windows OS.  In such case screen 
>  reader will not get loaded till windows starts.  Many a times we 
>  are unsure what’s on
>  the screen.   Our dependency on human assistance to move further. In
>  this
>  case used Eye-D mobile app’s ‘Read text in image’ option. Wah! It 
>  read screen with text ‘Bit locker enter the pin for windows 
>  drive’.  No
> more
>  disturbing colleagues for the help.
> 
>  This work around you can use when system hangs and screen reader 
>  is
> not
>  responding or in case of reading notifications, messages, alerts, 
>  screens, etc. where screen reader not reaching.
> 
>  Do share more.
> 
>  Regards,
> 
>  Prashant Naik
> 
>  9967968881
> 
>  Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
> accessibility
>  of
>  mobile phones / Tabs on:
>  http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.acces
> sindia_accessindia.org.in
> 
> 
>  Search for old postings at:
>  http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
> 
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>  accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in
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Re: [AI] pdf needed for jib exam.

[surinder raina]

On 12/4/16, suhas J  wrote:
> Hi friends I am in need for the current jib book of macmillan
> publications. thanks/ regards suhas.
>
> --
> you can reach me through my mobile nos 9769269354 and 9867008174
>
>
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> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity;
>
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> sent through this mailing list..
>


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Re: [AI] Smart workarounds

[Shaswat Jena]

Hello All,

I'm Shaswat from Eye-D. I'm really sorry that some of your are not being
able to use the app. Please note that there was an similar issue with the
Facebook app which resulted in the failure of image sharing and processing
it externally earlier, so I would suggest you to update your Eye-D app and
WhatsApp as no such issue is being observed on our end.

Gufran / Vikas,

For better results results please try to hold your phone 15-20 cms above
the printed document for now. We will be rolling out major OCR and feature
upgrades gradually to improve your app experience.

Thank you Satguru for answering the queries :)

Please do let me know if you have any queries and suggestions.

Regards,
Shaswat

Eye-D 

https://in.linkedin.com/in/shaswatjena

National Award Winner (Best Innovators of 2016
)


On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Mujeeb Rahman 
wrote:

> Super!!
>
> On 11/29/16, shankar shan  wrote:
> > 1. open WhatsApp.
> > 2. go to the chat from which you got the image.
> > 3. select the image by dubble tap and long press.
> > 4. click on share.
> > 5. click on image recagnation  eye-d app, and wait for the results
> > from the talkback.
> >
> > note: you need internet connection to use this service.
> >
> > yes, you can solve the captcha using this app, but, you need to work
> > around with it.
> >
> > here, guess work takes place.
> >
> > you cant expect perfect solution from this app.
> >
> > this is just my opinion.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11/29/16, Mujeeb Rahman  wrote:
> >> Whatsapp images too will be read! sounds amazing and interesting!!
> >> Request the steps..
> >>
> >> On 11/29/16, shankar shan  wrote:
> >>> exactly, and also, without sighted assistance,  you can read all the
> >>> information from the image  which you will get on WhatsApp and other
> >>> social networking sites.
> >>> currently, the app is supporting the default language, bbut,its not
> >>> supporting for other languages.
> >>>
> >>> if the person using Arabic language in there windows, it will be very
> >>> much trubble for them, hence, the app developers has to add the
> >>> international and indian languages with the app, so that, all lingual
> >>> people might benifited.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 11/28/16, Prashant Naik  wrote:
>  Hi,
> 
>  As mentioned in the subject sharing one smart workaround. Such
>  workarounds
>  we all must have innovated while working with access technologies.
>  Today
>  we have multiple devices with A T, combination of them will be
> helpful.
>  It
>  will be a great thing if we share with the A I list for benefiting
>  others.
> 
>  One such case is suppose your PC has a bit locker login where we need
> to
>  enter password for booting of Windows OS.  In such case screen reader
>  will
>  not get loaded till windows starts.  Many a times we are unsure what’s
>  on
>  the screen.   Our dependency on human assistance to move further. In
>  this
>  case used Eye-D mobile app’s ‘Read text in image’ option. Wah! It read
>  screen with text ‘Bit locker enter the pin for windows drive’.  No
> more
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> 
>  This work around you can use when system hangs and screen reader is
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Re: [AI] Using powerpoint online.

[Aravind R]

thank you sir

On 12/6/16, Kiran Baug  wrote:
> Please find the link below
>
> https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Use-PowerPoint-Online-with-a-screen-reader-ab07181b-06c1-4edd-81a7-da160aa8289b
>
> On 12/6/16, Aravind R  wrote:
>> but where is the link?
>>
>> On 12/5/16, Kiran Baug  wrote:
>>> Friends,
>>>
>>> Reading power point online is much more accesible?
>>>
>>> Does anybody tried reading power point online?
>>>
>>> I just came across the below post from Microsoft.
>>>
>>> Friends,
>>>
>>> Reading power point online is much more accesible?
>>>
>>> Does anybody tried reading power point online?
>>>
>>> I just came across the below post from Microsoft.
>>> "Use PowerPoint Online with a screen reader"
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Kiran.
>>>
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Re: [AI] Using powerpoint online.

[Kiran Baug]

Please find the link below

https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Use-PowerPoint-Online-with-a-screen-reader-ab07181b-06c1-4edd-81a7-da160aa8289b

On 12/6/16, Aravind R  wrote:
> but where is the link?
>
> On 12/5/16, Kiran Baug  wrote:
>> Friends,
>>
>> Reading power point online is much more accesible?
>>
>> Does anybody tried reading power point online?
>>
>> I just came across the below post from Microsoft.
>>
>> Friends,
>>
>> Reading power point online is much more accesible?
>>
>> Does anybody tried reading power point online?
>>
>> I just came across the below post from Microsoft.
>> "Use PowerPoint Online with a screen reader"
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kiran.
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] Big step taken by NAB Delhi to make visually impaired students independent in reading and writing

[Swati Sinha]

Really nice step

On 12/6/16, Dhananjay Bhole  wrote:
> Dear all,
> This has inspired me to make independent our university students with
> visual impairment in writing exams. We already have provision that
> students can write their exams using computer and assistive
> technologies.
> But unfortunately students with visual impairment do not choose
> computer option for writing exams. We impart basic computer training
> to our undergraduate and graduate students to make them independent in
> all kinds of academic assignments.
> Unfortunately very few students take interest in learning computer.
> Because they are getting easy jobs in banks and government sector.
> Malpractises are going in such recruitment exams. aspirents always
> demand qualified writers to write their exams so that they can qualify
> such recruitment exams without efforts. Several NGOs are also openly
> supporting such malpractises. Also most of the selected candidates for
> government jobs are not given any assignment after deployment. That's
> the reason the interest of the students is lowered in academics and
> learning job oriented skill.
> Now a days corporate Employers are willing to employ persons with
> disabilities. But they are not getting qualified job aspirents with
> disabilities. In rural Maharashtra students with disabilities do not
> ready to appear job interviews of corporate organizations. In short it
> seems that aspirents with visual impairment don't want to take
> efforts.
>
> We compulsorily conduct theory exams of our basic computer course on
> computer without any scribe which get them difficult to qualify.
> In last 2 years I have seen that students are not interested in
> completing computer assignments in our basic computing course.
> Therefore, Students choose other institutes for basic computer course
> certification which is easy for them to get a piece  of paper so
> called certificate.
>
> Also enrolment of students with visual impairment is low in the
> schools and departments of Savitribai Phule Pune university despite of
> having good disability support service and parcial financial
> assistance. Because we never entertain excuses of students with visual
> impairment and their demand for exemption in academic assignments. We
> provide support to make them independent in entire academics. Instead,
> they choose colleges where their excuses are entertained and they are
> even allowed to skip classes and academic assignments.
> However every year I get few very good students who have strong desire
> to learn  and take challenges. But their number is very less.
>
> This initiative of NAB delhi will make students independent right from
> primary schooling and create interest in childhood about technologies.
>
> Regards
>
> 12/5/16, Prashant Ranjan Verma  wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I think NAB Delhi is the first institution in the country to take this
>> pro-active step. When a solution is available, there is no reason the
>> visually impaired should depend upon volunteers for writing and reading.
>> Please see the document below, it is self-explanatory. We seek your
>> support
>> in its implementation.
>>
>> NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE BLIND
>> Sector - 5, R.K. Puram, New Delhi - 110022
>>
>>
>>
>> CIRCULAR
>>
>> 3 December 2016
>>
>>
>>
>> Policy to make visually impaired students independent in writing
>> examinations
>>
>>
>>
>> All teachers, students, parents and staff associated with NAB Delhi are
>> requested to take a note of this important policy change.
>>
>>
>>
>> Recognizing the positive impact of introducing ICT in school education of
>> the visually impaired children, NAB Delhi proposes to make all its Class
>> 6
>> to 12 students independent in reading and writing. NAB Delhi wants to do
>> away with the practice of using Scribes and enable its students to write
>> their examinations independently using computers.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1.  This policy covers all visually impaired students pursuing school
>> education through the Integrated Education Department of NAB Delhi
>> possessing a laptop either provided by NAB Delhi or their own
>>
>>
>>
>> 2.  Such students will have to compulsorily take the school
>> examinations
>> (unit tests, half yearly/yearly exams) of Class 6 to 12 using the
>> computers
>> after April 2017.
>>
>>
>>
>> 3.  The only exemption to this will be the board examination of Class
>> 10
>> and 12 till 2018.
>>
>>
>>
>> 4.  NAB Delhi will not arrange for scribes or make any payment for
>> scribes after April 2017 to assist blind students in school examinations.
>>
>>
>>
>> 5.  A list of those students who have to write exams using the
>> computers
>> after April 2017 will be prepared and published before end of December
>> 2016.
>> Arrangements for computer training of these students will be made. These
>> students will be evaluated for their typing speed, accuracy and computer
>> operation skills before end of 

Re: [AI] Smart workarounds

[Mujeeb Rahman]

Super!!

On 11/29/16, shankar shan  wrote:
> 1. open WhatsApp.
> 2. go to the chat from which you got the image.
> 3. select the image by dubble tap and long press.
> 4. click on share.
> 5. click on image recagnation  eye-d app, and wait for the results
> from the talkback.
>
> note: you need internet connection to use this service.
>
> yes, you can solve the captcha using this app, but, you need to work
> around with it.
>
> here, guess work takes place.
>
> you cant expect perfect solution from this app.
>
> this is just my opinion.
>
>
>
>
> On 11/29/16, Mujeeb Rahman  wrote:
>> Whatsapp images too will be read! sounds amazing and interesting!!
>> Request the steps..
>>
>> On 11/29/16, shankar shan  wrote:
>>> exactly, and also, without sighted assistance,  you can read all the
>>> information from the image  which you will get on WhatsApp and other
>>> social networking sites.
>>> currently, the app is supporting the default language, bbut,its not
>>> supporting for other languages.
>>>
>>> if the person using Arabic language in there windows, it will be very
>>> much trubble for them, hence, the app developers has to add the
>>> international and indian languages with the app, so that, all lingual
>>> people might benifited.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/28/16, Prashant Naik  wrote:
 Hi,

 As mentioned in the subject sharing one smart workaround. Such
 workarounds
 we all must have innovated while working with access technologies.
 Today
 we have multiple devices with A T, combination of them will be helpful.
 It
 will be a great thing if we share with the A I list for benefiting
 others.

 One such case is suppose your PC has a bit locker login where we need to
 enter password for booting of Windows OS.  In such case screen reader
 will
 not get loaded till windows starts.  Many a times we are unsure what’s
 on
 the screen.   Our dependency on human assistance to move further. In
 this
 case used Eye-D mobile app’s ‘Read text in image’ option. Wah! It read
 screen with text ‘Bit locker enter the pin for windows drive’.  No more
 disturbing colleagues for the help.

 This work around you can use when system hangs and screen reader is not
 responding or in case of reading notifications, messages, alerts,
 screens,
 etc. where screen reader not reaching.

 Do share more.

 Regards,

 Prashant Naik

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Re: [AI] Big step taken by NAB Delhi to make visually impaired students independent in reading and writing

[vivek doddamani]

 This is good initiative by NAB Delhi, but there are several drawbacks
like a small child of 7 or 8 class should learn english & another
regional language such as hindi  or sanskrit language typing, as
everybody knows hindi & sanskrit typing is very difficult, a child
should be well aware of computers problem while typing the exams
related technical issues,

On 12/6/16, Prashant Verma  wrote:
> Dear all,
> Please note that this policy at NAB Delhi has not been declared suddenly.
> First of all, for those who do not know, NAB Delhi pursues integrated
> education where our children study in the best mainstream schools in our
> area with non-disabled children. NAB Delhi provides all required support to
> the blind students on a day to day basis. Our special educators help the
> students with homework and difficult subjects in the afternoon just as
> parents do. We provide reading material in accessible formats and visit the
> school regularly to sensitize and support the school teachers in working
> with blind students in their class.
>
> The result of this model has been just fantastic. We are proud  that most
> of
> our ex-students are doing very well. There is a notable improvement in the
> personality, general awareness and confidence of our students due to
> schooling in the mainstream.
>
> During the last 5 years we have started a program of supporting the
> education with technology tools. Children are given exposure to the
> computers and digital devices like Android tablets from class 3 and by
> class
> 6 they are expected to be independent in using the computers for reading
> and
> writing. 90% of our students between class 6 and 12 have been given
> personal
> laptops. There is a dedicated computer lab for training the students and
> classes are also arranged in the evenings. There is limited internet Wi-Fi
> for senior students in the campus. Note that the primary education still
> happens in the Braille medium. All blind students learn to read and write
> Braille and get their books in Braille. We also have large print facilities
> for those who are recommended to use large print and magnifiers for reading
> and writing.
>
> Some of our students have been writing school exams on computers with great
> success for years.  However, many others have taken the easy way out and
> opted for the volunteer provided by the school to write the exam. This
> scribe is sometimes a student of a  higher class or even a teacher or staff
> of the school. I am sure all of you will admit that when our exams are
> written by others, the results do not always reflect our knowledge and
> ability. Sometimes we suffer due to mistakes made by the scribe and at
> other
> times gain due to interventions made by the scribe knowingly or
> unknowingly.
> On the other hand, we have noticed a remarkable improvement in the academic
> performance and development  of those students who are writing exams
> independently as compared to those who do not yet do so.
>
> I understand that it will not be possible for other institutions to
> implement such a policy soon. They should do the ground work before  blind
> students are asked to write exams on the computers.
>
> At my stint in Delhi university, I was involved in adoption and
> implementation of the current exam writing policy. I fully support the
> current CCPD and MSJE policy where print disabled students are entitled to
> extra time and choice of a medium to write their exam - using a scribe,
> computers or Braille.  The students must have the choice   and should get
> extra time even when they use the computers.
>
> However, at NAB where we are in the position of guardians, we must do all
> we
> can to  develop the skills and knowledge levels  of our students. We
> understand that in the current information age and digital era, there is a
> threat of digital divide for persons with blindness. Those who will adopt
> the digital medium will have the opportunity to grow and progress and those
> who do not adopt it may get left behind. This is why we are  trying to
> encourage our children to use the digital medium through this policy.
>
> I believe when the scribe option was created, there was no way the blind
> could write in a medium that could be read directly by the mainstream. But
> now we have  solutions. The computer is just a replacement of pen and paper
> as far as exam writing is concerned.  The sighted children at school need
> not use a computer since they can use the pen and paper.
>
> We are firmly behind our students and will support them at each step of
> this
> transition. Children will be given required training and we will work with
> the schools to facilitate  provision of question papers in electronic
> format. As far as technology and its reliability is concerned, there are no
> major doubts. Class 10, 12 and university exams have been written using the
> computers for many years now by some of our friends on this list.
>
> I have 

Re: [AI] Big step taken by NAB Delhi to make visually impaired students independent in reading and writing

[Dhananjay Bhole]

Dear all,
This has inspired me to make independent our university students with
visual impairment in writing exams. We already have provision that
students can write their exams using computer and assistive
technologies.
But unfortunately students with visual impairment do not choose
computer option for writing exams. We impart basic computer training
to our undergraduate and graduate students to make them independent in
all kinds of academic assignments.
Unfortunately very few students take interest in learning computer.
Because they are getting easy jobs in banks and government sector.
Malpractises are going in such recruitment exams. aspirents always
demand qualified writers to write their exams so that they can qualify
such recruitment exams without efforts. Several NGOs are also openly
supporting such malpractises. Also most of the selected candidates for
government jobs are not given any assignment after deployment. That's
the reason the interest of the students is lowered in academics and
learning job oriented skill.
Now a days corporate Employers are willing to employ persons with
disabilities. But they are not getting qualified job aspirents with
disabilities. In rural Maharashtra students with disabilities do not
ready to appear job interviews of corporate organizations. In short it
seems that aspirents with visual impairment don't want to take
efforts.

We compulsorily conduct theory exams of our basic computer course on
computer without any scribe which get them difficult to qualify.
In last 2 years I have seen that students are not interested in
completing computer assignments in our basic computing course.
Therefore, Students choose other institutes for basic computer course
certification which is easy for them to get a piece  of paper so
called certificate.

Also enrolment of students with visual impairment is low in the
schools and departments of Savitribai Phule Pune university despite of
having good disability support service and parcial financial
assistance. Because we never entertain excuses of students with visual
impairment and their demand for exemption in academic assignments. We
provide support to make them independent in entire academics. Instead,
they choose colleges where their excuses are entertained and they are
even allowed to skip classes and academic assignments.
However every year I get few very good students who have strong desire
to learn  and take challenges. But their number is very less.

This initiative of NAB delhi will make students independent right from
primary schooling and create interest in childhood about technologies.

Regards

12/5/16, Prashant Ranjan Verma  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I think NAB Delhi is the first institution in the country to take this
> pro-active step. When a solution is available, there is no reason the
> visually impaired should depend upon volunteers for writing and reading.
> Please see the document below, it is self-explanatory. We seek your support
> in its implementation.
>
> NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE BLIND
> Sector - 5, R.K. Puram, New Delhi - 110022
>
>
>
> CIRCULAR
>
> 3 December 2016
>
>
>
> Policy to make visually impaired students independent in writing
> examinations
>
>
>
> All teachers, students, parents and staff associated with NAB Delhi are
> requested to take a note of this important policy change.
>
>
>
> Recognizing the positive impact of introducing ICT in school education of
> the visually impaired children, NAB Delhi proposes to make all its Class 6
> to 12 students independent in reading and writing. NAB Delhi wants to do
> away with the practice of using Scribes and enable its students to write
> their examinations independently using computers.
>
>
>
> 1.  This policy covers all visually impaired students pursuing school
> education through the Integrated Education Department of NAB Delhi
> possessing a laptop either provided by NAB Delhi or their own
>
>
>
> 2.  Such students will have to compulsorily take the school
> examinations
> (unit tests, half yearly/yearly exams) of Class 6 to 12 using the computers
> after April 2017.
>
>
>
> 3.  The only exemption to this will be the board examination of Class
> 10
> and 12 till 2018.
>
>
>
> 4.  NAB Delhi will not arrange for scribes or make any payment for
> scribes after April 2017 to assist blind students in school examinations.
>
>
>
> 5.  A list of those students who have to write exams using the
> computers
> after April 2017 will be prepared and published before end of December
> 2016.
> Arrangements for computer training of these students will be made. These
> students will be evaluated for their typing speed, accuracy and computer
> operation skills before end of March 2017.
>
>
>
> 6.  I.Ed. teachers will ensure that their students develop the
> confidence and typing speed to take exams on the computers. Teachers will
> liaison with the Computer Department for training of students in their
> charge.
>
>
>
> 

Re: [AI] Big step taken by NAB Delhi to make visually impaired students independent in reading and writing

[bhawani shankar verma]

it is good to know that the primary education still
happens in the Braille medium. All blind students learn to read and write
Braille and get their books in Braille. now these days most students don't 
know english braille grade 2. I found that it is due to their teachers who 
also don't know english braille grade 2.



-Original Message- 
From: Prashant Verma

Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 9:29 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Big step taken by NAB Delhi to make visually impaired 
students independent in reading and writing


Dear all,
Please note that this policy at NAB Delhi has not been declared suddenly.
First of all, for those who do not know, NAB Delhi pursues integrated
education where our children study in the best mainstream schools in our
area with non-disabled children. NAB Delhi provides all required support to
the blind students on a day to day basis. Our special educators help the
students with homework and difficult subjects in the afternoon just as
parents do. We provide reading material in accessible formats and visit the
school regularly to sensitize and support the school teachers in working
with blind students in their class.

The result of this model has been just fantastic. We are proud  that most of
our ex-students are doing very well. There is a notable improvement in the
personality, general awareness and confidence of our students due to
schooling in the mainstream.

During the last 5 years we have started a program of supporting the
education with technology tools. Children are given exposure to the
computers and digital devices like Android tablets from class 3 and by class
6 they are expected to be independent in using the computers for reading and
writing. 90% of our students between class 6 and 12 have been given personal
laptops. There is a dedicated computer lab for training the students and
classes are also arranged in the evenings. There is limited internet Wi-Fi
for senior students in the campus. Note that the primary education still
happens in the Braille medium. All blind students learn to read and write
Braille and get their books in Braille. We also have large print facilities
for those who are recommended to use large print and magnifiers for reading
and writing.

Some of our students have been writing school exams on computers with great
success for years.  However, many others have taken the easy way out and
opted for the volunteer provided by the school to write the exam. This
scribe is sometimes a student of a  higher class or even a teacher or staff
of the school. I am sure all of you will admit that when our exams are
written by others, the results do not always reflect our knowledge and
ability. Sometimes we suffer due to mistakes made by the scribe and at other
times gain due to interventions made by the scribe knowingly or unknowingly.
On the other hand, we have noticed a remarkable improvement in the academic
performance and development  of those students who are writing exams
independently as compared to those who do not yet do so.

I understand that it will not be possible for other institutions to
implement such a policy soon. They should do the ground work before  blind
students are asked to write exams on the computers.

At my stint in Delhi university, I was involved in adoption and
implementation of the current exam writing policy. I fully support the
current CCPD and MSJE policy where print disabled students are entitled to
extra time and choice of a medium to write their exam - using a scribe,
computers or Braille.  The students must have the choice   and should get
extra time even when they use the computers.

However, at NAB where we are in the position of guardians, we must do all we
can to  develop the skills and knowledge levels  of our students. We
understand that in the current information age and digital era, there is a
threat of digital divide for persons with blindness. Those who will adopt
the digital medium will have the opportunity to grow and progress and those
who do not adopt it may get left behind. This is why we are  trying to
encourage our children to use the digital medium through this policy.

I believe when the scribe option was created, there was no way the blind
could write in a medium that could be read directly by the mainstream. But
now we have  solutions. The computer is just a replacement of pen and paper
as far as exam writing is concerned.  The sighted children at school need
not use a computer since they can use the pen and paper.

We are firmly behind our students and will support them at each step of this
transition. Children will be given required training and we will work with
the schools to facilitate  provision of question papers in electronic
format. As far as technology and its reliability is concerned, there are no
major doubts. Class 10, 12 and university exams have been written using the
computers for many years 

Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online payments is tough call

[bhawani shankar verma]

if accessibility is available, there is a CAPTCHA where you have to stuck. 
e.g. you can book your tickets on IRCTC with OTP, but mostly you can get 
stucked on CAPTCHA at payment gateways. some payment gateways like IDBI 
payment gateway are having both CAPTCHA and OTP. one has to fill both the 
option at the time of making payment.





-Original Message- 
From: George Abraham

Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 10:01 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online 
payments is tough call


This is the fear! Digital India  could easily leave us out.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf 
Of Sruti disAbility Rights Centre

Sent: 05 December 2016 15:49
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones 
and Tabs.
Subject: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online 
payments is tough call


*http://globalaccessibilitynews.com/2016/11/23/for-millions-of-indians-with-disabilities-making-payments-online-is-tough-call/
*

*BANGALORE, INDIA:* Booking cabs, buying food and making payments online
seem like they’re just a swipe and a tap away, but for millions of Indians
with disabilities, these apps are not designed for them to use.


According to a study conducted by Centre for Internet and Society (CIS)
last month, many of the most-commonly used mobile apps for food delivery,
online payments, grocery shopping and transportation were not accessible to
people with vision disabilities. The study covered 22 apps.

The 2011 census puts the number of people with disabilities in the country
at 26 million, while advocacy groups say the real figure is closer to 150
million. Last year, India recorded nearly nine billion downloads of
mobile-based applications last year.

“The national policy for universal electronic accessibility says that all
IT products and services should be accessible. However, the government is
still unable to implement it. Several government apps are inaccessible,”
said Nirmita Narasimhan, policy director at CIS. CIS’s survey of some key
government mobile based applications like My Gov, EPathshala and Prime
Minister Narendra Modi’s official app found them to be severely lacking.
The illiterate, aged and those not proficient in English would also
struggle with the apps, the study found. The guidelines for government
websites laid out accessibility standards in 2009. The 2013 national policy
on universal electronic accessibility clearly upholds equal rights
“ensuring that accessibility standards and guidelines and universal design
concepts are adopted and adhered to.”

However, most commonly-used apps fail to follow this. All 22 of the apps
studied were privately owned but not all were fully compliant with
universal standards. Of taxi-hailing apps Meru, Ola and Uber, only Uber was
completely accessible to the disabled. The others had mis-labelled or
unlabeled buttons and graphics.

When it came to food delivery, Zomato was the best at replicating the user
experience for people with disabilities. Swiggy and Foodpanda were
difficult for new users, and Freshmenu was completely inaccessible.

Of the marketplace apps, Amazon and Snapdeal were the only accessible ones.
Myntra and Flipkart had incorrectly labelled buttons and misleading graphic
tags, which made them impossible for people with disabilities to use. For
instance, customers would be able to select the product they wanted to buy
but had no way of choosing the quantity, the study said. Online grocery
delivery apps Grofers and Zop Now were hard for people with disabilities to
use, while Big Basket was relatively better though pages change during
orders. Online payment portals Paytm, Oxigen and FreeCharge were relatively
accessible, the study found.

“Designers, developers and industries need to realize that there are more
people out there who use this technology .The market is much bigger and
they should work towards being inclusive,” said Narasimhan of CIS.

Albinder Dhinda, cofounder of grocery delivery service Grofers, said their
app meets all accessibility requirements. “However, the disability tools
provided by Google Play Store or the App Store often don’t benefit the user
and are hard for them to use. We are trying to make it better. Things like
online payments won’t be accessible to people with disabilities as those
apps are supported by third party sites, and don’t fall within our
settings. We’re trying to make it better. We’re three years behind the US,
in the playground they made. It’ll be a while before we reach their level,”
he said.

Source: Times of India

Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of 
mobile phones / Tabs on:

Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online payments is tough call

[George Abraham]

This is the fear! Digital India  could easily leave us out. 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Sruti disAbility Rights Centre
Sent: 05 December 2016 15:49
To: Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones 
and Tabs.
Subject: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online payments 
is tough call

*http://globalaccessibilitynews.com/2016/11/23/for-millions-of-indians-with-disabilities-making-payments-online-is-tough-call/
*

*BANGALORE, INDIA:* Booking cabs, buying food and making payments online
seem like they’re just a swipe and a tap away, but for millions of Indians
with disabilities, these apps are not designed for them to use.


According to a study conducted by Centre for Internet and Society (CIS)
last month, many of the most-commonly used mobile apps for food delivery,
online payments, grocery shopping and transportation were not accessible to
people with vision disabilities. The study covered 22 apps.

The 2011 census puts the number of people with disabilities in the country
at 26 million, while advocacy groups say the real figure is closer to 150
million. Last year, India recorded nearly nine billion downloads of
mobile-based applications last year.

“The national policy for universal electronic accessibility says that all
IT products and services should be accessible. However, the government is
still unable to implement it. Several government apps are inaccessible,”
said Nirmita Narasimhan, policy director at CIS. CIS’s survey of some key
government mobile based applications like My Gov, EPathshala and Prime
Minister Narendra Modi’s official app found them to be severely lacking.
The illiterate, aged and those not proficient in English would also
struggle with the apps, the study found. The guidelines for government
websites laid out accessibility standards in 2009. The 2013 national policy
on universal electronic accessibility clearly upholds equal rights
“ensuring that accessibility standards and guidelines and universal design
concepts are adopted and adhered to.”

However, most commonly-used apps fail to follow this. All 22 of the apps
studied were privately owned but not all were fully compliant with
universal standards. Of taxi-hailing apps Meru, Ola and Uber, only Uber was
completely accessible to the disabled. The others had mis-labelled or
unlabeled buttons and graphics.

When it came to food delivery, Zomato was the best at replicating the user
experience for people with disabilities. Swiggy and Foodpanda were
difficult for new users, and Freshmenu was completely inaccessible.

Of the marketplace apps, Amazon and Snapdeal were the only accessible ones.
Myntra and Flipkart had incorrectly labelled buttons and misleading graphic
tags, which made them impossible for people with disabilities to use. For
instance, customers would be able to select the product they wanted to buy
but had no way of choosing the quantity, the study said. Online grocery
delivery apps Grofers and Zop Now were hard for people with disabilities to
use, while Big Basket was relatively better though pages change during
orders. Online payment portals Paytm, Oxigen and FreeCharge were relatively
accessible, the study found.

“Designers, developers and industries need to realize that there are more
people out there who use this technology .The market is much bigger and
they should work towards being inclusive,” said Narasimhan of CIS.

Albinder Dhinda, cofounder of grocery delivery service Grofers, said their
app meets all accessibility requirements. “However, the disability tools
provided by Google Play Store or the App Store often don’t benefit the user
and are hard for them to use. We are trying to make it better. Things like
online payments won’t be accessible to people with disabilities as those
apps are supported by third party sites, and don’t fall within our
settings. We’re trying to make it better. We’re three years behind the US,
in the playground they made. It’ll be a while before we reach their level,”
he said.

Source: Times of India

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Re: [AI] Big step taken by NAB Delhi to make visually impaired students independent in reading and writing

[Prashant Verma]

Dear all,
Please note that this policy at NAB Delhi has not been declared suddenly.
First of all, for those who do not know, NAB Delhi pursues integrated
education where our children study in the best mainstream schools in our
area with non-disabled children. NAB Delhi provides all required support to
the blind students on a day to day basis. Our special educators help the
students with homework and difficult subjects in the afternoon just as
parents do. We provide reading material in accessible formats and visit the
school regularly to sensitize and support the school teachers in working
with blind students in their class. 

The result of this model has been just fantastic. We are proud  that most of
our ex-students are doing very well. There is a notable improvement in the
personality, general awareness and confidence of our students due to
schooling in the mainstream. 

During the last 5 years we have started a program of supporting the
education with technology tools. Children are given exposure to the
computers and digital devices like Android tablets from class 3 and by class
6 they are expected to be independent in using the computers for reading and
writing. 90% of our students between class 6 and 12 have been given personal
laptops. There is a dedicated computer lab for training the students and
classes are also arranged in the evenings. There is limited internet Wi-Fi
for senior students in the campus. Note that the primary education still
happens in the Braille medium. All blind students learn to read and write
Braille and get their books in Braille. We also have large print facilities
for those who are recommended to use large print and magnifiers for reading
and writing.   

Some of our students have been writing school exams on computers with great
success for years.  However, many others have taken the easy way out and
opted for the volunteer provided by the school to write the exam. This
scribe is sometimes a student of a  higher class or even a teacher or staff
of the school. I am sure all of you will admit that when our exams are
written by others, the results do not always reflect our knowledge and
ability. Sometimes we suffer due to mistakes made by the scribe and at other
times gain due to interventions made by the scribe knowingly or unknowingly.
On the other hand, we have noticed a remarkable improvement in the academic
performance and development  of those students who are writing exams
independently as compared to those who do not yet do so. 

I understand that it will not be possible for other institutions to
implement such a policy soon. They should do the ground work before  blind
students are asked to write exams on the computers. 

At my stint in Delhi university, I was involved in adoption and
implementation of the current exam writing policy. I fully support the
current CCPD and MSJE policy where print disabled students are entitled to
extra time and choice of a medium to write their exam - using a scribe,
computers or Braille.  The students must have the choice   and should get
extra time even when they use the computers.  

However, at NAB where we are in the position of guardians, we must do all we
can to  develop the skills and knowledge levels  of our students. We
understand that in the current information age and digital era, there is a
threat of digital divide for persons with blindness. Those who will adopt
the digital medium will have the opportunity to grow and progress and those
who do not adopt it may get left behind. This is why we are  trying to
encourage our children to use the digital medium through this policy.   

I believe when the scribe option was created, there was no way the blind
could write in a medium that could be read directly by the mainstream. But
now we have  solutions. The computer is just a replacement of pen and paper
as far as exam writing is concerned.  The sighted children at school need
not use a computer since they can use the pen and paper.  

We are firmly behind our students and will support them at each step of this
transition. Children will be given required training and we will work with
the schools to facilitate  provision of question papers in electronic
format. As far as technology and its reliability is concerned, there are no
major doubts. Class 10, 12 and university exams have been written using the
computers for many years now by some of our friends on this list.  

I have full confidence in the ability of our students. Children learn so
fast, we get surprised to see how easily our class 2 and 3 students have
learnt to use the android touchscreen tablets to download and read Bookshare
titles. They are just too  eager to learn more and are taking to computers
like duck takes to water. 

With regards,
Prashant Ranjan Verma 
NAB Delhi General Secretary 

 

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Of Bhavya shah
Sent: 06 December 2016 07:19
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Re: [AI] Using powerpoint online.

[Aravind R]

but where is the link?

On 12/5/16, Kiran Baug  wrote:
> Friends,
>
> Reading power point online is much more accesible?
>
> Does anybody tried reading power point online?
>
> I just came across the below post from Microsoft.
>
> Friends,
>
> Reading power point online is much more accesible?
>
> Does anybody tried reading power point online?
>
> I just came across the below post from Microsoft.
> "Use PowerPoint Online with a screen reader"
>
> Regards,
> Kiran.
>
>
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Re: [AI] Big step taken by NAB Delhi to make visually impaired students independent in reading and writing

[Aravind R]

yes friends a great step by NAB.
the implementation is the main concern like what happened during this
demonetization time in banks.
as bhavya sir and others told, maths and science related papers should
be made accessible.
teaching touch screen computers and mobile devises should be a part of
curreculam from class1 of blind students which NAB should take it up
to government.
then, they can slowly bring exam writing in to practice.
NAB should sensitise government in contributing to the development of
free screen readers like NVDA and focus on developing good
synthesisers for major indian languages.
government and NAB need not born entire cost from public taxes.
they can use well-settled blind employee's sponsers and interested
contributers in making all books and question papers accessible to
screen-readers.

On 12/6/16, Bhavya shah  wrote:
> Hi Prashant Sir,
> Firstly, I thoroughly welcome this necessary policy change, being a
> Grade 9 student myself who gives a majority of his school examinations
> digitally too.
> However, following are a few concerns I have which you may wish to
> take into account to ensure that these don't surface as problems:
> * I am compelled to give my Unit Tests and SummaSummative Assessments
> (quarterly and half-yearly) for the Hindi subject (and formerly
> Sanskrit too) with a scribe, because my school is unable to provide
> the question paper in Unicode. Also, although I do give the small
> Formative Assessments for Hindi on my computer, I must confess that it
> is a slightly more arduous task to proofread Hindi typing than English
> text partially due to slight lack of speech synthesis quality. It
> should also be noted that I maintain all my Hindi notes myself on a
> Word file, and used to do the same for Sanskrit.
> * I use Math Type and NVDA to type Math, and despite what I would like
> to believe to be a fairly good typing speed, significantly also due to
> my lack of regular self-practice, my Math typing speed is not always
> equal to a sighted counterpart writing on paper. The Math subject and
> its examination digitization would needed to be considered carefully.
> Thanks.
>
> On 12/6/16, Ramdas Shivhare  wrote:
>> dear Prashant sir,
>>
>> it is a really a grate step and it should be appreciated by all. now
>> it is the time when visually challenged persons must be independent.
>> and if same starts from the school students then deffinatly the
>> visually challenged people will be totally independent in the future.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/5/16, Prashant Ranjan Verma  wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I think NAB Delhi is the first institution in the country to take this
>>> pro-active step. When a solution is available, there is no reason the
>>> visually impaired should depend upon volunteers for writing and reading.
>>> Please see the document below, it is self-explanatory. We seek your
>>> support
>>> in its implementation.
>>>
>>> NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE BLIND
>>> Sector - 5, R.K. Puram, New Delhi - 110022
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> CIRCULAR
>>>
>>> 3 December 2016
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Policy to make visually impaired students independent in writing
>>> examinations
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All teachers, students, parents and staff associated with NAB Delhi are
>>> requested to take a note of this important policy change.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Recognizing the positive impact of introducing ICT in school education
>>> of
>>> the visually impaired children, NAB Delhi proposes to make all its Class
>>> 6
>>> to 12 students independent in reading and writing. NAB Delhi wants to do
>>> away with the practice of using Scribes and enable its students to write
>>> their examinations independently using computers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.  This policy covers all visually impaired students pursuing
>>> school
>>> education through the Integrated Education Department of NAB Delhi
>>> possessing a laptop either provided by NAB Delhi or their own
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2.  Such students will have to compulsorily take the school
>>> examinations
>>> (unit tests, half yearly/yearly exams) of Class 6 to 12 using the
>>> computers
>>> after April 2017.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 3.  The only exemption to this will be the board examination of
>>> Class
>>> 10
>>> and 12 till 2018.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 4.  NAB Delhi will not arrange for scribes or make any payment for
>>> scribes after April 2017 to assist blind students in school
>>> examinations.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 5.  A list of those students who have to write exams using the
>>> computers
>>> after April 2017 will be prepared and published before end of December
>>> 2016.
>>> Arrangements for computer training of these students will be made. These
>>> students will be evaluated for their typing speed, accuracy and computer
>>> operation skills before end of March 2017.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 6.  I.Ed. teachers will ensure that their students develop the
>>> confidence and typing speed to take exams on 

Re: [AI] Big step taken by NAB Delhi to make visually impaired students independent in reading and writing

[Bhavya shah]

Hi Prashant Sir,
Firstly, I thoroughly welcome this necessary policy change, being a
Grade 9 student myself who gives a majority of his school examinations
digitally too.
However, following are a few concerns I have which you may wish to
take into account to ensure that these don't surface as problems:
* I am compelled to give my Unit Tests and SummaSummative Assessments
(quarterly and half-yearly) for the Hindi subject (and formerly
Sanskrit too) with a scribe, because my school is unable to provide
the question paper in Unicode. Also, although I do give the small
Formative Assessments for Hindi on my computer, I must confess that it
is a slightly more arduous task to proofread Hindi typing than English
text partially due to slight lack of speech synthesis quality. It
should also be noted that I maintain all my Hindi notes myself on a
Word file, and used to do the same for Sanskrit.
* I use Math Type and NVDA to type Math, and despite what I would like
to believe to be a fairly good typing speed, significantly also due to
my lack of regular self-practice, my Math typing speed is not always
equal to a sighted counterpart writing on paper. The Math subject and
its examination digitization would needed to be considered carefully.
Thanks.

On 12/6/16, Ramdas Shivhare  wrote:
> dear Prashant sir,
>
> it is a really a grate step and it should be appreciated by all. now
> it is the time when visually challenged persons must be independent.
> and if same starts from the school students then deffinatly the
> visually challenged people will be totally independent in the future.
>
>
>
> On 12/5/16, Prashant Ranjan Verma  wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I think NAB Delhi is the first institution in the country to take this
>> pro-active step. When a solution is available, there is no reason the
>> visually impaired should depend upon volunteers for writing and reading.
>> Please see the document below, it is self-explanatory. We seek your
>> support
>> in its implementation.
>>
>> NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE BLIND
>> Sector - 5, R.K. Puram, New Delhi - 110022
>>
>>
>>
>> CIRCULAR
>>
>> 3 December 2016
>>
>>
>>
>> Policy to make visually impaired students independent in writing
>> examinations
>>
>>
>>
>> All teachers, students, parents and staff associated with NAB Delhi are
>> requested to take a note of this important policy change.
>>
>>
>>
>> Recognizing the positive impact of introducing ICT in school education of
>> the visually impaired children, NAB Delhi proposes to make all its Class
>> 6
>> to 12 students independent in reading and writing. NAB Delhi wants to do
>> away with the practice of using Scribes and enable its students to write
>> their examinations independently using computers.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1.  This policy covers all visually impaired students pursuing school
>> education through the Integrated Education Department of NAB Delhi
>> possessing a laptop either provided by NAB Delhi or their own
>>
>>
>>
>> 2.  Such students will have to compulsorily take the school
>> examinations
>> (unit tests, half yearly/yearly exams) of Class 6 to 12 using the
>> computers
>> after April 2017.
>>
>>
>>
>> 3.  The only exemption to this will be the board examination of Class
>> 10
>> and 12 till 2018.
>>
>>
>>
>> 4.  NAB Delhi will not arrange for scribes or make any payment for
>> scribes after April 2017 to assist blind students in school examinations.
>>
>>
>>
>> 5.  A list of those students who have to write exams using the
>> computers
>> after April 2017 will be prepared and published before end of December
>> 2016.
>> Arrangements for computer training of these students will be made. These
>> students will be evaluated for their typing speed, accuracy and computer
>> operation skills before end of March 2017.
>>
>>
>>
>> 6.  I.Ed. teachers will ensure that their students develop the
>> confidence and typing speed to take exams on the computers. Teachers will
>> liaison with the Computer Department for training of students in their
>> charge.
>>
>>
>>
>> 7.  The I.Ed. Department will sensitize the school and facilitate
>> conduct of examinations in the school using the computer.
>>
>>
>>
>> 8.  Arrangements for computer training of all I.Ed. Teachers will be
>> made in a phased manner. NAB will strive to provide adequate access to
>> computers to the I.Ed. Teachers during work hours so that they can use
>> the
>> computers for teaching and evaluation. Till such time the I.Ed. teachers
>> develop sufficient ICT skills, the Computer Unit will  be responsible for
>> providing all technical assistance
>>
>>
>>
>> 9.  Students who yet do not have a laptop will be provided soon and
>> will
>> be brought under this policy at the earliest.
>>
>>
>>
>> 10.   Any exemption for any child on grounds of additional disability or
>> otherwise. Must be sought from NAB Delhi President by the concerned
>> teacher/parent.
>>
>>
>>
>> 11.   The 

Re: [AI] Big step taken by NAB Delhi to make visually impaired students independent in reading and writing

[Ramdas Shivhare]

dear Prashant sir,

it is a really a grate step and it should be appreciated by all. now
it is the time when visually challenged persons must be independent.
and if same starts from the school students then deffinatly the
visually challenged people will be totally independent in the future.



On 12/5/16, Prashant Ranjan Verma  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I think NAB Delhi is the first institution in the country to take this
> pro-active step. When a solution is available, there is no reason the
> visually impaired should depend upon volunteers for writing and reading.
> Please see the document below, it is self-explanatory. We seek your support
> in its implementation.
>
> NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE BLIND
> Sector - 5, R.K. Puram, New Delhi - 110022
>
>
>
> CIRCULAR
>
> 3 December 2016
>
>
>
> Policy to make visually impaired students independent in writing
> examinations
>
>
>
> All teachers, students, parents and staff associated with NAB Delhi are
> requested to take a note of this important policy change.
>
>
>
> Recognizing the positive impact of introducing ICT in school education of
> the visually impaired children, NAB Delhi proposes to make all its Class 6
> to 12 students independent in reading and writing. NAB Delhi wants to do
> away with the practice of using Scribes and enable its students to write
> their examinations independently using computers.
>
>
>
> 1.  This policy covers all visually impaired students pursuing school
> education through the Integrated Education Department of NAB Delhi
> possessing a laptop either provided by NAB Delhi or their own
>
>
>
> 2.  Such students will have to compulsorily take the school
> examinations
> (unit tests, half yearly/yearly exams) of Class 6 to 12 using the computers
> after April 2017.
>
>
>
> 3.  The only exemption to this will be the board examination of Class
> 10
> and 12 till 2018.
>
>
>
> 4.  NAB Delhi will not arrange for scribes or make any payment for
> scribes after April 2017 to assist blind students in school examinations.
>
>
>
> 5.  A list of those students who have to write exams using the
> computers
> after April 2017 will be prepared and published before end of December
> 2016.
> Arrangements for computer training of these students will be made. These
> students will be evaluated for their typing speed, accuracy and computer
> operation skills before end of March 2017.
>
>
>
> 6.  I.Ed. teachers will ensure that their students develop the
> confidence and typing speed to take exams on the computers. Teachers will
> liaison with the Computer Department for training of students in their
> charge.
>
>
>
> 7.  The I.Ed. Department will sensitize the school and facilitate
> conduct of examinations in the school using the computer.
>
>
>
> 8.  Arrangements for computer training of all I.Ed. Teachers will be
> made in a phased manner. NAB will strive to provide adequate access to
> computers to the I.Ed. Teachers during work hours so that they can use the
> computers for teaching and evaluation. Till such time the I.Ed. teachers
> develop sufficient ICT skills, the Computer Unit will  be responsible for
> providing all technical assistance
>
>
>
> 9.  Students who yet do not have a laptop will be provided soon and
> will
> be brought under this policy at the earliest.
>
>
>
> 10.   Any exemption for any child on grounds of additional disability or
> otherwise. Must be sought from NAB Delhi President by the concerned
> teacher/parent.
>
>
>
> 11.   The Director Programs and I.Ed. Coordinator are responsible for
> implementation of this policy.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Prashant Ranjan Verma
>
> Hony. General Secretary
>
> Copy to
>
> 1.  All parents by post
>
> 2.  All I.Ed. Teachers
>
> 3.  All students through their teachers and parents
>
> 4.  Notice Board
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
> mobile phones / Tabs on:
> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in
>
>
> Search for old postings at:
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thanks and regards,
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asst. Manager (prob)-State bank of Patiala,
office: 32-33, Nehru Place, Delhi 110019,
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Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online payments is tough call

[Ajay Minocha]

Hi,

It intirely depends on us if we want to see it half empty or half full.

On 12/5/16, Shyam M. Sayanekar  wrote:
> A very good and factbased article. In fact a lot of discussion on this issue
> should be unddertaken. Further, the risk factor involved in cashless
> transactions with regard to the VI also has to be taken into account.
> Non-availability of network, the phones getting out of range are also other
> issues. Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sruti disAbility Rights Centre" 
> To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile
> phones and Tabs." 
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 3:49 PM
> Subject: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online
> payments is tough call
>
>
>> *http://globalaccessibilitynews.com/2016/11/23/for-millions-of-indians-with-disabilities-making-payments-online-is-tough-call/
>> *
>>
>> *BANGALORE, INDIA:* Booking cabs, buying food and making payments online
>> seem like they’re just a swipe and a tap away, but for millions of Indians
>> with disabilities, these apps are not designed for them to use.
>>
>>
>> According to a study conducted by Centre for Internet and Society (CIS)
>> last month, many of the most-commonly used mobile apps for food delivery,
>> online payments, grocery shopping and transportation were not accessible
>> to
>> people with vision disabilities. The study covered 22 apps.
>>
>> The 2011 census puts the number of people with disabilities in the country
>> at 26 million, while advocacy groups say the real figure is closer to 150
>> million. Last year, India recorded nearly nine billion downloads of
>> mobile-based applications last year.
>>
>> “The national policy for universal electronic accessibility says that all
>> IT products and services should be accessible. However, the government is
>> still unable to implement it. Several government apps are inaccessible,”
>> said Nirmita Narasimhan, policy director at CIS. CIS’s survey of some key
>> government mobile based applications like My Gov, EPathshala and Prime
>> Minister Narendra Modi’s official app found them to be severely lacking.
>> The illiterate, aged and those not proficient in English would also
>> struggle with the apps, the study found. The guidelines for government
>> websites laid out accessibility standards in 2009. The 2013 national
>> policy
>> on universal electronic accessibility clearly upholds equal rights
>> “ensuring that accessibility standards and guidelines and universal design
>> concepts are adopted and adhered to.”
>>
>> However, most commonly-used apps fail to follow this. All 22 of the apps
>> studied were privately owned but not all were fully compliant with
>> universal standards. Of taxi-hailing apps Meru, Ola and Uber, only Uber
>> was
>> completely accessible to the disabled. The others had mis-labelled or
>> unlabeled buttons and graphics.
>>
>> When it came to food delivery, Zomato was the best at replicating the user
>> experience for people with disabilities. Swiggy and Foodpanda were
>> difficult for new users, and Freshmenu was completely inaccessible.
>>
>> Of the marketplace apps, Amazon and Snapdeal were the only accessible
>> ones.
>> Myntra and Flipkart had incorrectly labelled buttons and misleading
>> graphic
>> tags, which made them impossible for people with disabilities to use. For
>> instance, customers would be able to select the product they wanted to buy
>> but had no way of choosing the quantity, the study said. Online grocery
>> delivery apps Grofers and Zop Now were hard for people with disabilities
>> to
>> use, while Big Basket was relatively better though pages change during
>> orders. Online payment portals Paytm, Oxigen and FreeCharge were
>> relatively
>> accessible, the study found.
>>
>> “Designers, developers and industries need to realize that there are more
>> people out there who use this technology .The market is much bigger and
>> they should work towards being inclusive,” said Narasimhan of CIS.
>>
>> Albinder Dhinda, cofounder of grocery delivery service Grofers, said their
>> app meets all accessibility requirements. “However, the disability tools
>> provided by Google Play Store or the App Store often don’t benefit the
>> user
>> and are hard for them to use. We are trying to make it better. Things like
>> online payments won’t be accessible to people with disabilities as those
>> apps are supported by third party sites, and don’t fall within our
>> settings. We’re trying to make it better. We’re three years behind the US,
>> in the playground they made. It’ll be a while before we reach their
>>  level,”
>> he said.
>>
>> Source: Times of India
>>
>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
>>
>> mobile phones / 

Re: [AI] Big step taken by NAB Delhi to make visually impaired students independent in reading and writing

[Ajay Minocha]

Hi,

A grate innitiative indeed! The only way to groom our next generation
is to make technology a necessaty since their childhood.

Congratulations Prashant Sir and NAB team for tirelessly working towards this.

Ajay

On 12/5/16, Shyam M. Sayanekar  wrote:
> Although it is a revolutionary step, what Rajendra Durve has written must
> also be taken into consideration. Even the sighted school students are not
> using computers for writing their examinations. the level of students is
> bound to be different, and all students may not learn the computer with
> equal ease. See the example of touch screen mobiles. some find it to be very
> comfortable while others are struggling to manage with it.  Therefore,
> though the idea is good, it should be implemented on experimental basis and
> the students should be given the freedom to choose whether he wants to use
> the computer system or the traditional writer system. Professor Shyam M.
> Sayanekar
> - Original Message -
> From: "rajendra dhurve" 
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled." 
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 8:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Big step taken by NAB Delhi to make visually impaired
> students independent in reading and writing
>
>
>> This is not at all a revolutionary decision!!
>>
>> Sorry friends... but I'm as a student who knows technology very well
>> is not at all agree with this decision!!
>> It won't  100% work!
>> I myself come across many Technical failures, Machinery faults,
>> several times during online exams!
>> It will increase the burden of VH student during Examination time like:
>> A student has to listen the question from Synthetic voice to read out
>> the questions, at the same time She/he has to focus on her/his typing
>> speed, has to be careful about the Symbols to put in, while typing,
>> time duration, Spelling mistakes, Paragraph change, etc.
>> tell me one thing, then what will happen with the vital right of the
>> scribe guidelines of the country for which many big lawyers fought
>> cases in Supreme court to converts the Extra time into Compensatory
>> time?
>> In this way, the Scribe rule of the country will be affected and being
>> a very young age students will have to come across various natural
>> difficulties other than these I mentioned above!
>> I don't understand, how the passed out students from school is
>> supporting such rough innovative experiment on their Innocent
>> juniors!!
>> Friends, just remember your own school days class test, unit test and
>> examinations difficulties! Just assume yourself in their place and
>> then give a flick of immagination! How difficult it will be!!
>> Regards:
>>
>> On 12/5/16, shankar shan  wrote:
>>> wow!!!
>>>
>>> this is called revolution.
>>>
>>> this should be Executed all across  the country.
>>>
>>> and also, the students  should  get an Opportunity  to explore the
>>> computers  from the standard 1.
>>>
>>> keep going!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/5/16, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
 Wow, a revolutionary step indeed. Happy to see my alma mater making
 such progressive moves.

 On 12/5/16, avinash shahi  wrote:
> Excellent initiative – I wish it a great success.
>
> On 12/5/16, Prashant Ranjan Verma  wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I think NAB Delhi is the first institution in the country to take this
>> pro-active step. When a solution is available, there is no reason the
>> visually impaired should depend upon volunteers for writing and
>> reading.
>> Please see the document below, it is self-explanatory. We seek your
>> support
>> in its implementation.
>>
>> NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE BLIND
>> Sector - 5, R.K. Puram, New Delhi - 110022
>>
>>
>>
>> CIRCULAR
>>
>> 3 December 2016
>>
>>
>>
>> Policy to make visually impaired students independent in writing
>> examinations
>>
>>
>>
>> All teachers, students, parents and staff associated with NAB Delhi
>> are
>> requested to take a note of this important policy change.
>>
>>
>>
>> Recognizing the positive impact of introducing ICT in school education
>> of
>> the visually impaired children, NAB Delhi proposes to make all its
>> Class
>> 6
>> to 12 students independent in reading and writing. NAB Delhi wants to
>> do
>> away with the practice of using Scribes and enable its students to
>> write
>> their examinations independently using computers.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1.  This policy covers all visually impaired students pursuing
>> school
>> education through the Integrated Education Department of NAB Delhi
>> possessing a laptop either provided by NAB Delhi or their own
>>

Re: [AI] Big step taken by NAB Delhi to make visually impaired students independent in reading and writing

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Although it is a revolutionary step, what Rajendra Durve has written must 
also be taken into consideration. Even the sighted school students are not 
using computers for writing their examinations. the level of students is 
bound to be different, and all students may not learn the computer with 
equal ease. See the example of touch screen mobiles. some find it to be very 
comfortable while others are struggling to manage with it.  Therefore, 
though the idea is good, it should be implemented on experimental basis and 
the students should be given the freedom to choose whether he wants to use 
the computer system or the traditional writer system. Professor Shyam M. 
Sayanekar
- Original Message - 
From: "rajendra dhurve" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Big step taken by NAB Delhi to make visually impaired 
students independent in reading and writing




This is not at all a revolutionary decision!!

Sorry friends... but I'm as a student who knows technology very well
is not at all agree with this decision!!
It won't  100% work!
I myself come across many Technical failures, Machinery faults,
several times during online exams!
It will increase the burden of VH student during Examination time like:
A student has to listen the question from Synthetic voice to read out
the questions, at the same time She/he has to focus on her/his typing
speed, has to be careful about the Symbols to put in, while typing,
time duration, Spelling mistakes, Paragraph change, etc.
tell me one thing, then what will happen with the vital right of the
scribe guidelines of the country for which many big lawyers fought
cases in Supreme court to converts the Extra time into Compensatory
time?
In this way, the Scribe rule of the country will be affected and being
a very young age students will have to come across various natural
difficulties other than these I mentioned above!
I don't understand, how the passed out students from school is
supporting such rough innovative experiment on their Innocent
juniors!!
Friends, just remember your own school days class test, unit test and
examinations difficulties! Just assume yourself in their place and
then give a flick of immagination! How difficult it will be!!
Regards:

On 12/5/16, shankar shan  wrote:

wow!!!

this is called revolution.

this should be Executed all across  the country.

and also, the students  should  get an Opportunity  to explore the
computers  from the standard 1.

keep going!!!





On 12/5/16, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:

Wow, a revolutionary step indeed. Happy to see my alma mater making
such progressive moves.

On 12/5/16, avinash shahi  wrote:

Excellent initiative – I wish it a great success.

On 12/5/16, Prashant Ranjan Verma  wrote:

Dear all,

I think NAB Delhi is the first institution in the country to take this
pro-active step. When a solution is available, there is no reason the
visually impaired should depend upon volunteers for writing and 
reading.

Please see the document below, it is self-explanatory. We seek your
support
in its implementation.

NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE BLIND
Sector - 5, R.K. Puram, New Delhi - 110022



CIRCULAR

3 December 2016



Policy to make visually impaired students independent in writing
examinations



All teachers, students, parents and staff associated with NAB Delhi 
are

requested to take a note of this important policy change.



Recognizing the positive impact of introducing ICT in school education
of
the visually impaired children, NAB Delhi proposes to make all its 
Class

6
to 12 students independent in reading and writing. NAB Delhi wants to 
do
away with the practice of using Scribes and enable its students to 
write

their examinations independently using computers.



1.  This policy covers all visually impaired students pursuing
school
education through the Integrated Education Department of NAB Delhi
possessing a laptop either provided by NAB Delhi or their own



2.  Such students will have to compulsorily take the school
examinations
(unit tests, half yearly/yearly exams) of Class 6 to 12 using the
computers
after April 2017.



3.  The only exemption to this will be the board examination of
Class
10
and 12 till 2018.



4.  NAB Delhi will not arrange for scribes or make any payment for
scribes after April 2017 to assist blind students in school
examinations.



5.  A list of those students who have to write exams using the
computers
after April 2017 will be prepared and published before end of December
2016.
Arrangements for computer training of these students will be made. 
These
students will be evaluated for their typing speed, accuracy and 
computer

operation skills before end of March 2017.



6.  I.Ed. 

Re: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online payments is tough call

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

A very good and factbased article. In fact a lot of discussion on this issue 
should be unddertaken. Further, the risk factor involved in cashless 
transactions with regard to the VI also has to be taken into account. 
Non-availability of network, the phones getting out of range are also other 
issues. Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
- Original Message - 
From: "Sruti disAbility Rights Centre" 
To: "Dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile 
phones and Tabs." 

Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 3:49 PM
Subject: [AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online 
payments is tough call




*http://globalaccessibilitynews.com/2016/11/23/for-millions-of-indians-with-disabilities-making-payments-online-is-tough-call/
*

*BANGALORE, INDIA:* Booking cabs, buying food and making payments online
seem like they’re just a swipe and a tap away, but for millions of Indians
with disabilities, these apps are not designed for them to use.


According to a study conducted by Centre for Internet and Society (CIS)
last month, many of the most-commonly used mobile apps for food delivery,
online payments, grocery shopping and transportation were not accessible 
to

people with vision disabilities. The study covered 22 apps.

The 2011 census puts the number of people with disabilities in the country
at 26 million, while advocacy groups say the real figure is closer to 150
million. Last year, India recorded nearly nine billion downloads of
mobile-based applications last year.

“The national policy for universal electronic accessibility says that all
IT products and services should be accessible. However, the government is
still unable to implement it. Several government apps are inaccessible,”
said Nirmita Narasimhan, policy director at CIS. CIS’s survey of some key
government mobile based applications like My Gov, EPathshala and Prime
Minister Narendra Modi’s official app found them to be severely lacking.
The illiterate, aged and those not proficient in English would also
struggle with the apps, the study found. The guidelines for government
websites laid out accessibility standards in 2009. The 2013 national 
policy

on universal electronic accessibility clearly upholds equal rights
“ensuring that accessibility standards and guidelines and universal design
concepts are adopted and adhered to.”

However, most commonly-used apps fail to follow this. All 22 of the apps
studied were privately owned but not all were fully compliant with
universal standards. Of taxi-hailing apps Meru, Ola and Uber, only Uber 
was

completely accessible to the disabled. The others had mis-labelled or
unlabeled buttons and graphics.

When it came to food delivery, Zomato was the best at replicating the user
experience for people with disabilities. Swiggy and Foodpanda were
difficult for new users, and Freshmenu was completely inaccessible.

Of the marketplace apps, Amazon and Snapdeal were the only accessible 
ones.
Myntra and Flipkart had incorrectly labelled buttons and misleading 
graphic

tags, which made them impossible for people with disabilities to use. For
instance, customers would be able to select the product they wanted to buy
but had no way of choosing the quantity, the study said. Online grocery
delivery apps Grofers and Zop Now were hard for people with disabilities 
to

use, while Big Basket was relatively better though pages change during
orders. Online payment portals Paytm, Oxigen and FreeCharge were 
relatively

accessible, the study found.

“Designers, developers and industries need to realize that there are more
people out there who use this technology .The market is much bigger and
they should work towards being inclusive,” said Narasimhan of CIS.

Albinder Dhinda, cofounder of grocery delivery service Grofers, said their
app meets all accessibility requirements. “However, the disability tools
provided by Google Play Store or the App Store often don’t benefit the 
user

and are hard for them to use. We are trying to make it better. Things like
online payments won’t be accessible to people with disabilities as those
apps are supported by third party sites, and don’t fall within our
settings. We’re trying to make it better. We’re three years behind the US,
in the playground they made. It’ll be a while before we reach their 
 level,”

he said.

Source: Times of India

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Re: [AI] Smart work arounds

[Vikas Kapoor]

Hi Satguru, astoundingly, after I reset my phone yesterday, I've also started 
confronting the same issue. While it is capable of reading the image sent 
through the camera app, it is giving the same message with the whatsap images. 
Haven't really been able to figure out what caused this!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Satguru Rathi 
  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled. 
  Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 4:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Smart work arounds


  Hi,

  In my case, I was able to red text from the immage. Make sure:
  1. You have the latest version of the app.
  2. The immage has the text in English only as the app doesn’t have support 
for Indian languages.


  With best regards,
  Satguru
  ___,__.___
  "Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man. But sooner or 
later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can."

  Satguru Rathi
  +91-9871489945
  +91-8076761833
  satgurura...@gmail.com

  From: jyothi 
  Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 4:00 PM
  To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.' 
  Subject: [AI] Smart work arounds

  I tried, but each time, I'm getting the error message "something wrong went 
with that image, pick a different 1 please?

  -Original Message-
  From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf 
Of shankar shan
  Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 6:41 PM
  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.
  Subject: Re: [AI] Smart workarounds

  1. open WhatsApp.
  2. go to the chat from which you got the image.
  3. select the image by dubble tap and long press.
  4. click on share.
  5. click on image recagnation  eye-d app, and wait for the results
  from the talkback.

  note: you need internet connection to use this service.

  yes, you can solve the captcha using this app, but, you need to work
  around with it.

  here, guess work takes place.

  you cant expect perfect solution from this app.

  this is just my opinion.




  On 11/29/16, Mujeeb Rahman  wrote:
  > Whatsapp images too will be read! sounds amazing and interesting!!
  > Request the steps..
  >
  > On 11/29/16, shankar shan  wrote:
  >> exactly, and also, without sighted assistance,  you can read all the
  >> information from the image  which you will get on WhatsApp and other
  >> social networking sites.
  >> currently, the app is supporting the default language, bbut,its not
  >> supporting for other languages.
  >>
  >> if the person using Arabic language in there windows, it will be very
  >> much trubble for them, hence, the app developers has to add the
  >> international and indian languages with the app, so that, all lingual
  >> people might benifited.
  >>
  >>
  >> On 11/28/16, Prashant Naik  wrote:
  >>> Hi,
  >>>
  >>> As mentioned in the subject sharing one smart workaround. Such
  >>> workarounds
  >>> we all must have innovated while working with access technologies.  Today
  >>> we have multiple devices with A T, combination of them will be helpful.
  >>> It
  >>> will be a great thing if we share with the A I list for benefiting
  >>> others.
  >>>
  >>> One such case is suppose your PC has a bit locker login where we need to
  >>> enter password for booting of Windows OS.  In such case screen reader
  >>> will
  >>> not get loaded till windows starts.  Many a times we are unsure what’s on
  >>> the screen.   Our dependency on human assistance to move further. In this
  >>> case used Eye-D mobile app’s ‘Read text in image’ option. Wah! It read
  >>> screen with text ‘Bit locker enter the pin for windows drive’.  No more
  >>> disturbing colleagues for the help.
  >>>
  >>> This work around you can use when system hangs and screen reader is not
  >>> responding or in case of reading notifications, messages, alerts,
  >>> screens,
  >>> etc. where screen reader not reaching.
  >>>
  >>> Do share more.
  >>>
  >>> Regards,
  >>>
  >>> Prashant Naik
  >>>
  >>> 9967968881
  >>>
  >>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility
  >>> of
  >>> mobile phones / Tabs on:
  >>> 
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Re: [AI] Big step taken by NAB Delhi to make visually impaired students independent in reading and writing

[Umang Mehndiratta]

fantastic!!! very grate and revalutionary step!! it will change many lifes.

On 12/5/16, Prashant Ranjan Verma  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I think NAB Delhi is the first institution in the country to take this
> pro-active step. When a solution is available, there is no reason the
> visually impaired should depend upon volunteers for writing and reading.
> Please see the document below, it is self-explanatory. We seek your support
> in its implementation.
>
> NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE BLIND
> Sector - 5, R.K. Puram, New Delhi - 110022
>
>
>
> CIRCULAR
>
> 3 December 2016
>
>
>
> Policy to make visually impaired students independent in writing
> examinations
>
>
>
> All teachers, students, parents and staff associated with NAB Delhi are
> requested to take a note of this important policy change.
>
>
>
> Recognizing the positive impact of introducing ICT in school education of
> the visually impaired children, NAB Delhi proposes to make all its Class 6
> to 12 students independent in reading and writing. NAB Delhi wants to do
> away with the practice of using Scribes and enable its students to write
> their examinations independently using computers.
>
>
>
> 1.  This policy covers all visually impaired students pursuing school
> education through the Integrated Education Department of NAB Delhi
> possessing a laptop either provided by NAB Delhi or their own
>
>
>
> 2.  Such students will have to compulsorily take the school
> examinations
> (unit tests, half yearly/yearly exams) of Class 6 to 12 using the computers
> after April 2017.
>
>
>
> 3.  The only exemption to this will be the board examination of Class
> 10
> and 12 till 2018.
>
>
>
> 4.  NAB Delhi will not arrange for scribes or make any payment for
> scribes after April 2017 to assist blind students in school examinations.
>
>
>
> 5.  A list of those students who have to write exams using the
> computers
> after April 2017 will be prepared and published before end of December
> 2016.
> Arrangements for computer training of these students will be made. These
> students will be evaluated for their typing speed, accuracy and computer
> operation skills before end of March 2017.
>
>
>
> 6.  I.Ed. teachers will ensure that their students develop the
> confidence and typing speed to take exams on the computers. Teachers will
> liaison with the Computer Department for training of students in their
> charge.
>
>
>
> 7.  The I.Ed. Department will sensitize the school and facilitate
> conduct of examinations in the school using the computer.
>
>
>
> 8.  Arrangements for computer training of all I.Ed. Teachers will be
> made in a phased manner. NAB will strive to provide adequate access to
> computers to the I.Ed. Teachers during work hours so that they can use the
> computers for teaching and evaluation. Till such time the I.Ed. teachers
> develop sufficient ICT skills, the Computer Unit will  be responsible for
> providing all technical assistance
>
>
>
> 9.  Students who yet do not have a laptop will be provided soon and
> will
> be brought under this policy at the earliest.
>
>
>
> 10.   Any exemption for any child on grounds of additional disability or
> otherwise. Must be sought from NAB Delhi President by the concerned
> teacher/parent.
>
>
>
> 11.   The Director Programs and I.Ed. Coordinator are responsible for
> implementation of this policy.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Prashant Ranjan Verma
>
> Hony. General Secretary
>
> Copy to
>
> 1.  All parents by post
>
> 2.  All I.Ed. Teachers
>
> 3.  All students through their teachers and parents
>
> 4.  Notice Board
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AI] Big step taken by NAB Delhi to make visually impaired students independent in reading and writing

[sadaf khan]

it is a wellcoming step!!!
but requires proper guidance, proper assessment of the students
knowledge of computers including the typing speed, and the functioning
of the machine before exam.
it will improve the spellings, grammer, punctuation knowledge, ETC. we
all learn through mistakes and all sited people have also learned
spellings by getting a negative marking for speling mistake. it will
be nice to concentrate on the positive aspect.
I hope this gets implemented across the country, with proper supervision.

On 12/5/16, Arjun Malhotra  wrote:
> Indeed a welcoming step. I've taken my exams using computers till 12th
> standard barring board exams  and I've no doubt the independence that
> it offers is truly liberating. In college I was forced to make use of
> scribe due to certain excruciating circumstances otherwise I would
> have continued using computers as a mode of taking exams. I completed
> my schooling in  2010 and now it is 2016 and there have been definite
> improvement in technology.
>
> On 12/5/16, rajendra dhurve  wrote:
>> This is not at all a revolutionary decision!!
>>
>> Sorry friends... but I'm as a student who knows technology very well
>> is not at all agree with this decision!!
>> It won't  100% work!
>> I myself come across many Technical failures, Machinery faults,
>> several times during online exams!
>> It will increase the burden of VH student during Examination time like:
>> A student has to listen the question from Synthetic voice to read out
>> the questions, at the same time She/he has to focus on her/his typing
>> speed, has to be careful about the Symbols to put in, while typing,
>> time duration, Spelling mistakes, Paragraph change, etc.
>> tell me one thing, then what will happen with the vital right of the
>> scribe guidelines of the country for which many big lawyers fought
>> cases in Supreme court to converts the Extra time into Compensatory
>> time?
>> In this way, the Scribe rule of the country will be affected and being
>> a very young age students will have to come across various natural
>> difficulties other than these I mentioned above!
>> I don't understand, how the passed out students from school is
>> supporting such rough innovative experiment on their Innocent
>> juniors!!
>> Friends, just remember your own school days class test, unit test and
>> examinations difficulties! Just assume yourself in their place and
>> then give a flick of immagination! How difficult it will be!!
>> Regards:
>>
>> On 12/5/16, shankar shan  wrote:
>>> wow!!!
>>>
>>> this is called revolution.
>>>
>>> this should be Executed all across  the country.
>>>
>>> and also, the students  should  get an Opportunity  to explore the
>>> computers  from the standard 1.
>>>
>>> keep going!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/5/16, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
 Wow, a revolutionary step indeed. Happy to see my alma mater making
 such progressive moves.

 On 12/5/16, avinash shahi  wrote:
> Excellent initiative – I wish it a great success.
>
> On 12/5/16, Prashant Ranjan Verma  wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I think NAB Delhi is the first institution in the country to take this
>> pro-active step. When a solution is available, there is no reason the
>> visually impaired should depend upon volunteers for writing and
>> reading.
>> Please see the document below, it is self-explanatory. We seek your
>> support
>> in its implementation.
>>
>> NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE BLIND
>> Sector - 5, R.K. Puram, New Delhi - 110022
>>
>>
>>
>> CIRCULAR
>>
>> 3 December 2016
>>
>>
>>
>> Policy to make visually impaired students independent in writing
>> examinations
>>
>>
>>
>> All teachers, students, parents and staff associated with NAB Delhi
>> are
>> requested to take a note of this important policy change.
>>
>>
>>
>> Recognizing the positive impact of introducing ICT in school education
>> of
>> the visually impaired children, NAB Delhi proposes to make all its
>> Class
>> 6
>> to 12 students independent in reading and writing. NAB Delhi wants to
>> do
>> away with the practice of using Scribes and enable its students to
>> write
>> their examinations independently using computers.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1.  This policy covers all visually impaired students pursuing
>> school
>> education through the Integrated Education Department of NAB Delhi
>> possessing a laptop either provided by NAB Delhi or their own
>>
>>
>>
>> 2.  Such students will have to compulsorily take the school
>> examinations
>> (unit tests, half yearly/yearly exams) of Class 6 to 12 using the
>> computers
>> after April 2017.
>>
>>
>>

Re: [AI] Big step taken by NAB Delhi to make visually impaired students independent in reading and writing

[Arjun Malhotra]

Indeed a welcoming step. I've taken my exams using computers till 12th
standard barring board exams  and I've no doubt the independence that
it offers is truly liberating. In college I was forced to make use of
scribe due to certain excruciating circumstances otherwise I would
have continued using computers as a mode of taking exams. I completed
my schooling in  2010 and now it is 2016 and there have been definite
improvement in technology.

On 12/5/16, rajendra dhurve  wrote:
> This is not at all a revolutionary decision!!
>
> Sorry friends... but I'm as a student who knows technology very well
> is not at all agree with this decision!!
> It won't  100% work!
> I myself come across many Technical failures, Machinery faults,
> several times during online exams!
> It will increase the burden of VH student during Examination time like:
> A student has to listen the question from Synthetic voice to read out
> the questions, at the same time She/he has to focus on her/his typing
> speed, has to be careful about the Symbols to put in, while typing,
> time duration, Spelling mistakes, Paragraph change, etc.
> tell me one thing, then what will happen with the vital right of the
> scribe guidelines of the country for which many big lawyers fought
> cases in Supreme court to converts the Extra time into Compensatory
> time?
> In this way, the Scribe rule of the country will be affected and being
> a very young age students will have to come across various natural
> difficulties other than these I mentioned above!
> I don't understand, how the passed out students from school is
> supporting such rough innovative experiment on their Innocent
> juniors!!
> Friends, just remember your own school days class test, unit test and
> examinations difficulties! Just assume yourself in their place and
> then give a flick of immagination! How difficult it will be!!
> Regards:
>
> On 12/5/16, shankar shan  wrote:
>> wow!!!
>>
>> this is called revolution.
>>
>> this should be Executed all across  the country.
>>
>> and also, the students  should  get an Opportunity  to explore the
>> computers  from the standard 1.
>>
>> keep going!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/5/16, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
>>> Wow, a revolutionary step indeed. Happy to see my alma mater making
>>> such progressive moves.
>>>
>>> On 12/5/16, avinash shahi  wrote:
 Excellent initiative – I wish it a great success.

 On 12/5/16, Prashant Ranjan Verma  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I think NAB Delhi is the first institution in the country to take this
> pro-active step. When a solution is available, there is no reason the
> visually impaired should depend upon volunteers for writing and
> reading.
> Please see the document below, it is self-explanatory. We seek your
> support
> in its implementation.
>
> NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE BLIND
> Sector - 5, R.K. Puram, New Delhi - 110022
>
>
>
> CIRCULAR
>
> 3 December 2016
>
>
>
> Policy to make visually impaired students independent in writing
> examinations
>
>
>
> All teachers, students, parents and staff associated with NAB Delhi are
> requested to take a note of this important policy change.
>
>
>
> Recognizing the positive impact of introducing ICT in school education
> of
> the visually impaired children, NAB Delhi proposes to make all its
> Class
> 6
> to 12 students independent in reading and writing. NAB Delhi wants to
> do
> away with the practice of using Scribes and enable its students to
> write
> their examinations independently using computers.
>
>
>
> 1.  This policy covers all visually impaired students pursuing
> school
> education through the Integrated Education Department of NAB Delhi
> possessing a laptop either provided by NAB Delhi or their own
>
>
>
> 2.  Such students will have to compulsorily take the school
> examinations
> (unit tests, half yearly/yearly exams) of Class 6 to 12 using the
> computers
> after April 2017.
>
>
>
> 3.  The only exemption to this will be the board examination of
> Class
> 10
> and 12 till 2018.
>
>
>
> 4.  NAB Delhi will not arrange for scribes or make any payment for
> scribes after April 2017 to assist blind students in school
> examinations.
>
>
>
> 5.  A list of those students who have to write exams using the
> computers
> after April 2017 will be prepared and published before end of December
> 2016.
> Arrangements for computer training of these students will be made.
> These
> students will be evaluated for their typing speed, accuracy and
> computer
> operation skills before end of March 2017.
>

Re: [AI] Big step taken by NAB Delhi to make visually impaired students independent in reading and writing

[rajendra dhurve]

This is not at all a revolutionary decision!!

Sorry friends... but I'm as a student who knows technology very well
is not at all agree with this decision!!
It won't  100% work!
I myself come across many Technical failures, Machinery faults,
several times during online exams!
It will increase the burden of VH student during Examination time like:
A student has to listen the question from Synthetic voice to read out
the questions, at the same time She/he has to focus on her/his typing
speed, has to be careful about the Symbols to put in, while typing,
time duration, Spelling mistakes, Paragraph change, etc.
tell me one thing, then what will happen with the vital right of the
scribe guidelines of the country for which many big lawyers fought
cases in Supreme court to converts the Extra time into Compensatory
time?
In this way, the Scribe rule of the country will be affected and being
a very young age students will have to come across various natural
difficulties other than these I mentioned above!
I don't understand, how the passed out students from school is
supporting such rough innovative experiment on their Innocent
juniors!!
Friends, just remember your own school days class test, unit test and
examinations difficulties! Just assume yourself in their place and
then give a flick of immagination! How difficult it will be!!
Regards:

On 12/5/16, shankar shan  wrote:
> wow!!!
>
> this is called revolution.
>
> this should be Executed all across  the country.
>
> and also, the students  should  get an Opportunity  to explore the
> computers  from the standard 1.
>
> keep going!!!
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12/5/16, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
>> Wow, a revolutionary step indeed. Happy to see my alma mater making
>> such progressive moves.
>>
>> On 12/5/16, avinash shahi  wrote:
>>> Excellent initiative – I wish it a great success.
>>>
>>> On 12/5/16, Prashant Ranjan Verma  wrote:
 Dear all,

 I think NAB Delhi is the first institution in the country to take this
 pro-active step. When a solution is available, there is no reason the
 visually impaired should depend upon volunteers for writing and reading.
 Please see the document below, it is self-explanatory. We seek your
 support
 in its implementation.

 NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE BLIND
 Sector - 5, R.K. Puram, New Delhi - 110022



 CIRCULAR

 3 December 2016



 Policy to make visually impaired students independent in writing
 examinations



 All teachers, students, parents and staff associated with NAB Delhi are
 requested to take a note of this important policy change.



 Recognizing the positive impact of introducing ICT in school education
 of
 the visually impaired children, NAB Delhi proposes to make all its Class
 6
 to 12 students independent in reading and writing. NAB Delhi wants to do
 away with the practice of using Scribes and enable its students to write
 their examinations independently using computers.



 1.  This policy covers all visually impaired students pursuing
 school
 education through the Integrated Education Department of NAB Delhi
 possessing a laptop either provided by NAB Delhi or their own



 2.  Such students will have to compulsorily take the school
 examinations
 (unit tests, half yearly/yearly exams) of Class 6 to 12 using the
 computers
 after April 2017.



 3.  The only exemption to this will be the board examination of
 Class
 10
 and 12 till 2018.



 4.  NAB Delhi will not arrange for scribes or make any payment for
 scribes after April 2017 to assist blind students in school
 examinations.



 5.  A list of those students who have to write exams using the
 computers
 after April 2017 will be prepared and published before end of December
 2016.
 Arrangements for computer training of these students will be made. These
 students will be evaluated for their typing speed, accuracy and computer
 operation skills before end of March 2017.



 6.  I.Ed. teachers will ensure that their students develop the
 confidence and typing speed to take exams on the computers. Teachers
 will
 liaison with the Computer Department for training of students in their
 charge.



 7.  The I.Ed. Department will sensitize the school and facilitate
 conduct of examinations in the school using the computer.



 8.  Arrangements for computer training of all I.Ed. Teachers will be
 made in a phased manner. NAB will strive to provide adequate access to
 computers to the I.Ed. Teachers during work hours so that they can use
 the
 computers for teaching 

[AI] Using powerpoint online.

[Kiran Baug]

Friends,

Reading power point online is much more accesible?

Does anybody tried reading power point online?

I just came across the below post from Microsoft.

Friends,

Reading power point online is much more accesible?

Does anybody tried reading power point online?

I just came across the below post from Microsoft.
"Use PowerPoint Online with a screen reader"

Regards,
Kiran.


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Re: [AI] Big step taken by NAB Delhi to make visually impaired students independent in reading and writing

[shankar shan]

wow!!!

this is called revolution.

this should be Executed all across  the country.

and also, the students  should  get an Opportunity  to explore the
computers  from the standard 1.

keep going!!!





On 12/5/16, Avichal Bhatnagar  wrote:
> Wow, a revolutionary step indeed. Happy to see my alma mater making
> such progressive moves.
>
> On 12/5/16, avinash shahi  wrote:
>> Excellent initiative – I wish it a great success.
>>
>> On 12/5/16, Prashant Ranjan Verma  wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I think NAB Delhi is the first institution in the country to take this
>>> pro-active step. When a solution is available, there is no reason the
>>> visually impaired should depend upon volunteers for writing and reading.
>>> Please see the document below, it is self-explanatory. We seek your
>>> support
>>> in its implementation.
>>>
>>> NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE BLIND
>>> Sector - 5, R.K. Puram, New Delhi - 110022
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> CIRCULAR
>>>
>>> 3 December 2016
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Policy to make visually impaired students independent in writing
>>> examinations
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All teachers, students, parents and staff associated with NAB Delhi are
>>> requested to take a note of this important policy change.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Recognizing the positive impact of introducing ICT in school education of
>>> the visually impaired children, NAB Delhi proposes to make all its Class
>>> 6
>>> to 12 students independent in reading and writing. NAB Delhi wants to do
>>> away with the practice of using Scribes and enable its students to write
>>> their examinations independently using computers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.  This policy covers all visually impaired students pursuing school
>>> education through the Integrated Education Department of NAB Delhi
>>> possessing a laptop either provided by NAB Delhi or their own
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2.  Such students will have to compulsorily take the school
>>> examinations
>>> (unit tests, half yearly/yearly exams) of Class 6 to 12 using the
>>> computers
>>> after April 2017.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 3.  The only exemption to this will be the board examination of Class
>>> 10
>>> and 12 till 2018.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 4.  NAB Delhi will not arrange for scribes or make any payment for
>>> scribes after April 2017 to assist blind students in school examinations.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 5.  A list of those students who have to write exams using the
>>> computers
>>> after April 2017 will be prepared and published before end of December
>>> 2016.
>>> Arrangements for computer training of these students will be made. These
>>> students will be evaluated for their typing speed, accuracy and computer
>>> operation skills before end of March 2017.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 6.  I.Ed. teachers will ensure that their students develop the
>>> confidence and typing speed to take exams on the computers. Teachers will
>>> liaison with the Computer Department for training of students in their
>>> charge.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 7.  The I.Ed. Department will sensitize the school and facilitate
>>> conduct of examinations in the school using the computer.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 8.  Arrangements for computer training of all I.Ed. Teachers will be
>>> made in a phased manner. NAB will strive to provide adequate access to
>>> computers to the I.Ed. Teachers during work hours so that they can use
>>> the
>>> computers for teaching and evaluation. Till such time the I.Ed. teachers
>>> develop sufficient ICT skills, the Computer Unit will  be responsible for
>>> providing all technical assistance
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 9.  Students who yet do not have a laptop will be provided soon and
>>> will
>>> be brought under this policy at the earliest.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 10.   Any exemption for any child on grounds of additional disability or
>>> otherwise. Must be sought from NAB Delhi President by the concerned
>>> teacher/parent.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 11.   The Director Programs and I.Ed. Coordinator are responsible for
>>> implementation of this policy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Prashant Ranjan Verma
>>>
>>> Hony. General Secretary
>>>
>>> Copy to
>>>
>>> 1.  All parents by post
>>>
>>> 2.  All I.Ed. Teachers
>>>
>>> 3.  All students through their teachers and parents
>>>
>>> 4.  Notice Board
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility
>>> of
>>> mobile phones / Tabs on:
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Re: [AI] Smart work arounds

[shankar shan]

I guess, your internet connection got lost.!!!



On 12/5/16, jyothi  wrote:
> I tried, but each time, I'm getting the error message "something wrong went
> with that image, pick a different 1 please?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of shankar shan
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 6:41 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Smart workarounds
>
> 1. open WhatsApp.
> 2. go to the chat from which you got the image.
> 3. select the image by dubble tap and long press.
> 4. click on share.
> 5. click on image recagnation  eye-d app, and wait for the results
> from the talkback.
>
> note: you need internet connection to use this service.
>
> yes, you can solve the captcha using this app, but, you need to work
> around with it.
>
> here, guess work takes place.
>
> you cant expect perfect solution from this app.
>
> this is just my opinion.
>
>
>
>
> On 11/29/16, Mujeeb Rahman  wrote:
>> Whatsapp images too will be read! sounds amazing and interesting!!
>> Request the steps..
>>
>> On 11/29/16, shankar shan  wrote:
>>> exactly, and also, without sighted assistance,  you can read all the
>>> information from the image  which you will get on WhatsApp and other
>>> social networking sites.
>>> currently, the app is supporting the default language, bbut,its not
>>> supporting for other languages.
>>>
>>> if the person using Arabic language in there windows, it will be very
>>> much trubble for them, hence, the app developers has to add the
>>> international and indian languages with the app, so that, all lingual
>>> people might benifited.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/28/16, Prashant Naik  wrote:
 Hi,

 As mentioned in the subject sharing one smart workaround. Such
 workarounds
 we all must have innovated while working with access technologies.
 Today
 we have multiple devices with A T, combination of them will be helpful.
 It
 will be a great thing if we share with the A I list for benefiting
 others.

 One such case is suppose your PC has a bit locker login where we need to
 enter password for booting of Windows OS.  In such case screen reader
 will
 not get loaded till windows starts.  Many a times we are unsure what’s
 on
 the screen.   Our dependency on human assistance to move further. In
 this
 case used Eye-D mobile app’s ‘Read text in image’ option. Wah! It read
 screen with text ‘Bit locker enter the pin for windows drive’.  No more
 disturbing colleagues for the help.

 This work around you can use when system hangs and screen reader is not
 responding or in case of reading notifications, messages, alerts,
 screens,
 etc. where screen reader not reaching.

 Do share more.

 Regards,

 Prashant Naik

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Re: [AI] Fwd: Request for Adopting Accessibility in Paytm App

[Aravind]

hi friends what is android web view? how to update it? I am using samsung s4

-Original Message- 
From: Vedprakash Sharma

Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 6:08 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.'

Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Request for Adopting Accessibility in Paytm App

Click on recharge. There both options of prepaid recharge and postpaid bills 
are available.


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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf 
Of Vamshi. G

Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 8:53 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled. 

Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Request for Adopting Accessibility in Paytm App

Where do we get the option to pay post paid mobile bills in Paytm app?
I could get options recharge, utilities, etc but not post paid mobile bill.



On 12/4/16, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:

firefox.

- Original Message -
From: "Mohit Gupta" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the disabled." 
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Request for Adopting Accessibility in Paytm App



Dear friends,
which internet browser in computer is accessible for paytm.

On 11/28/16, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:

did you face CAPTCHA while paying through pnb debit card. if it is a
rupay card, then how could you manage to enter pin on NPCI payment
gateway.

- Original Message -
From: "vivek doddamani" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the disabled." 
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Request for Adopting Accessibility in Paytm
App



paytm is also accessable on firefox on 25th November I added
Rs.5000 through firefox to my paytm account with PNB debit card I
did not face any problem I am using NVDA screen reader since from
past three days I am buying milk through mother dairy by using
paytm on my mobile, initially while transferring money by state
bank net banking I could not but when i used PNB debit card it was easy 
& fine.


On 11/27/16, Ajay Minocha  wrote:

Hi Shreedhar,

You must be running Android 6.0, because this feature isn't there
in the older versions. I have allowed it to access my contacts as
I frequently have to send money.

On 11/27/16, Shreedhar TS.  wrote:

Ajay,

I did not quite get "read OTP" I assume that you are talking
about automatically detecting OTP sent via SMS, then it depends
on the appropriate permission to the app. In my specific case, I
have not allowed the Paytm app for reading SMS/Call details and
Photos./media on my device.

On 11/27/16, Ajay Minocha  wrote:

Hi Tilak,

Even I have used netbanking and don't face this issue. There was
some issue with read OTP screen but if you tap to the butten
before the textbox containing the edit box it'll take to your
regular payment gateway which is accessible. The problem can be
device specific in your case.


On 11/27/16, Shreedhar TS.  wrote:

Hi Tilak,

I am a regular Uber user and use paytm for almost all the bills
and recharges. I never faced the issue which you are describing
with regards to adding money with net banking. In my
experience, the Paytm app for android is completely accessible.
Perhaps you can try updating Paytm app as well as Android web view.
It
is very essential to have Android web view updated since the
apps like paytm are heavily dependent on web view.

On 11/27/16, Tilakprasad Joshi  wrote:

Hi Ajay,

I didn't find fully accessible, I am unable to add money to
Uber App from or adding Cash to Patm App itself, I use net
banking to ad cash I always go stuck on last stage where we
have to confirm or cancel link/button, they have ask for
screen shot how can we send the screen shot? here I am refer
to Android Apple OS.

Warm Regards,
Tilak.

On 11/27/16, Ajay Minocha  wrote:

 hi it is already hundred percent accessible

Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com


On November 27, 2016 12:18:28 PM Tilakprasad Joshi
 wrote:


Hi Friends!

I wrote to Paytm requesting to make their app accessible with
Talkback
and Voice Over this is the response I got from them and I am not
sure
how to reply them. Can we all right to them requesting to make
their
app accessible? Request you to read the trail mail to see their
response.
We can write on i...@one97.com this is the e-mail that I have
used
to
write them.

Warm Regards,
Tilak.


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Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2016 

Re: [AI] Big step taken by NAB Delhi to make visually impaired students independent in reading and writing

[Avichal Bhatnagar]

Wow, a revolutionary step indeed. Happy to see my alma mater making
such progressive moves.

On 12/5/16, avinash shahi  wrote:
> Excellent initiative – I wish it a great success.
>
> On 12/5/16, Prashant Ranjan Verma  wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I think NAB Delhi is the first institution in the country to take this
>> pro-active step. When a solution is available, there is no reason the
>> visually impaired should depend upon volunteers for writing and reading.
>> Please see the document below, it is self-explanatory. We seek your
>> support
>> in its implementation.
>>
>> NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE BLIND
>> Sector - 5, R.K. Puram, New Delhi - 110022
>>
>>
>>
>> CIRCULAR
>>
>> 3 December 2016
>>
>>
>>
>> Policy to make visually impaired students independent in writing
>> examinations
>>
>>
>>
>> All teachers, students, parents and staff associated with NAB Delhi are
>> requested to take a note of this important policy change.
>>
>>
>>
>> Recognizing the positive impact of introducing ICT in school education of
>> the visually impaired children, NAB Delhi proposes to make all its Class 6
>> to 12 students independent in reading and writing. NAB Delhi wants to do
>> away with the practice of using Scribes and enable its students to write
>> their examinations independently using computers.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1.  This policy covers all visually impaired students pursuing school
>> education through the Integrated Education Department of NAB Delhi
>> possessing a laptop either provided by NAB Delhi or their own
>>
>>
>>
>> 2.  Such students will have to compulsorily take the school
>> examinations
>> (unit tests, half yearly/yearly exams) of Class 6 to 12 using the
>> computers
>> after April 2017.
>>
>>
>>
>> 3.  The only exemption to this will be the board examination of Class
>> 10
>> and 12 till 2018.
>>
>>
>>
>> 4.  NAB Delhi will not arrange for scribes or make any payment for
>> scribes after April 2017 to assist blind students in school examinations.
>>
>>
>>
>> 5.  A list of those students who have to write exams using the
>> computers
>> after April 2017 will be prepared and published before end of December
>> 2016.
>> Arrangements for computer training of these students will be made. These
>> students will be evaluated for their typing speed, accuracy and computer
>> operation skills before end of March 2017.
>>
>>
>>
>> 6.  I.Ed. teachers will ensure that their students develop the
>> confidence and typing speed to take exams on the computers. Teachers will
>> liaison with the Computer Department for training of students in their
>> charge.
>>
>>
>>
>> 7.  The I.Ed. Department will sensitize the school and facilitate
>> conduct of examinations in the school using the computer.
>>
>>
>>
>> 8.  Arrangements for computer training of all I.Ed. Teachers will be
>> made in a phased manner. NAB will strive to provide adequate access to
>> computers to the I.Ed. Teachers during work hours so that they can use the
>> computers for teaching and evaluation. Till such time the I.Ed. teachers
>> develop sufficient ICT skills, the Computer Unit will  be responsible for
>> providing all technical assistance
>>
>>
>>
>> 9.  Students who yet do not have a laptop will be provided soon and
>> will
>> be brought under this policy at the earliest.
>>
>>
>>
>> 10.   Any exemption for any child on grounds of additional disability or
>> otherwise. Must be sought from NAB Delhi President by the concerned
>> teacher/parent.
>>
>>
>>
>> 11.   The Director Programs and I.Ed. Coordinator are responsible for
>> implementation of this policy.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Prashant Ranjan Verma
>>
>> Hony. General Secretary
>>
>> Copy to
>>
>> 1.  All parents by post
>>
>> 2.  All I.Ed. Teachers
>>
>> 3.  All students through their teachers and parents
>>
>> 4.  Notice Board
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>
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Re: [AI] Smart work arounds

[gufran ahmed]

hi satguru, it would be better if you  could share tips how to hold
phone while taking the snappshot of the object to have a better
accuracy. in my case the eye d keep sayng that no text found in this
immage. i have test that app on my moto g gen 1 phone.

On 12/5/16, Alok Kaushik  wrote:
> Hi,
> Is this app available for IOS as well? I tried searching for 'eye-D' in
> Apple App store but could not locate such an app.
>
> Thanks.
> Alok
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Satguru Rathi
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 4:20 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Smart work arounds
>
> Hi,
>
> In my case, I was able to red text from the immage. Make sure:
> 1. You have the latest version of the app.
> 2. The immage has the text in English only as the app doesn’t have support
> for Indian languages.
>
>
> With best regards,
> Satguru
> ___,__.___
> "Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man. But sooner
> or later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can."
>
> Satguru Rathi
> +91-9871489945
> +91-8076761833
> satgurura...@gmail.com
>
> From: jyothi
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 4:00 PM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: [AI] Smart work arounds
>
> I tried, but each time, I'm getting the error message "something wrong went
> with that image, pick a different 1 please?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of shankar shan
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 6:41 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Smart workarounds
>
> 1. open WhatsApp.
> 2. go to the chat from which you got the image.
> 3. select the image by dubble tap and long press.
> 4. click on share.
> 5. click on image recagnation  eye-d app, and wait for the results from the
> talkback.
>
> note: you need internet connection to use this service.
>
> yes, you can solve the captcha using this app, but, you need to work around
> with it.
>
> here, guess work takes place.
>
> you cant expect perfect solution from this app.
>
> this is just my opinion.
>
>
>
>
> On 11/29/16, Mujeeb Rahman  wrote:
>> Whatsapp images too will be read! sounds amazing and interesting!!
>> Request the steps..
>>
>> On 11/29/16, shankar shan  wrote:
>>> exactly, and also, without sighted assistance,  you can read all the
>>> information from the image  which you will get on WhatsApp and other
>>> social networking sites.
>>> currently, the app is supporting the default language, bbut,its not
>>> supporting for other languages.
>>>
>>> if the person using Arabic language in there windows, it will be very
>>> much trubble for them, hence, the app developers has to add the
>>> international and indian languages with the app, so that, all lingual
>>> people might benifited.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/28/16, Prashant Naik  wrote:
 Hi,

 As mentioned in the subject sharing one smart workaround. Such
 workarounds we all must have innovated while working with access
 technologies.  Today we have multiple devices with A T, combination
 of them will be helpful.
 It
 will be a great thing if we share with the A I list for benefiting
 others.

 One such case is suppose your PC has a bit locker login where we
 need to enter password for booting of Windows OS.  In such case
 screen reader will not get loaded till windows starts.  Many a times
 we are unsure what’s on
 the screen.   Our dependency on human assistance to move further. In
 this
 case used Eye-D mobile app’s ‘Read text in image’ option. Wah! It
 read screen with text ‘Bit locker enter the pin for windows drive’.
 No more disturbing colleagues for the help.

 This work around you can use when system hangs and screen reader is
 not responding or in case of reading notifications, messages,
 alerts, screens, etc. where screen reader not reaching.

 Do share more.

 Regards,

 Prashant Naik

 9967968881

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Re: [AI] Fwd: Request for Adopting Accessibility in Paytm App

[Vedprakash Sharma]

Click on recharge. There both options of prepaid recharge and postpaid bills 
are available.

Vedprakash Sharma
http://www.musicalexpressions.myehome.in/

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Vamshi. G
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 8:53 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Request for Adopting Accessibility in Paytm App

Where do we get the option to pay post paid mobile bills in Paytm app?
 I could get options recharge, utilities, etc but not post paid mobile bill.



On 12/4/16, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
> firefox.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mohit Gupta" 
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled." 
> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 3:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Request for Adopting Accessibility in Paytm App
>
>
>> Dear friends,
>> which internet browser in computer is accessible for paytm.
>>
>> On 11/28/16, bhawani shankar verma  wrote:
>>> did you face CAPTCHA while paying through pnb debit card. if it is a 
>>> rupay card, then how could you manage to enter pin on NPCI payment 
>>> gateway.
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "vivek doddamani" 
>>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>>> concerning the disabled." 
>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 5:22 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Fwd: Request for Adopting Accessibility in Paytm 
>>> App
>>>
>>>
 paytm is also accessable on firefox on 25th November I added 
 Rs.5000 through firefox to my paytm account with PNB debit card I 
 did not face any problem I am using NVDA screen reader since from 
 past three days I am buying milk through mother dairy by using 
 paytm on my mobile, initially while transferring money by state 
 bank net banking I could not but when i used PNB debit card it was easy & 
 fine.

 On 11/27/16, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
> Hi Shreedhar,
>
> You must be running Android 6.0, because this feature isn't there 
> in the older versions. I have allowed it to access my contacts as 
> I frequently have to send money.
>
> On 11/27/16, Shreedhar TS.  wrote:
>> Ajay,
>>
>> I did not quite get "read OTP" I assume that you are talking 
>> about automatically detecting OTP sent via SMS, then it depends 
>> on the appropriate permission to the app. In my specific case, I 
>> have not allowed the Paytm app for reading SMS/Call details and 
>> Photos./media on my device.
>>
>> On 11/27/16, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
>>> Hi Tilak,
>>>
>>> Even I have used netbanking and don't face this issue. There was 
>>> some issue with read OTP screen but if you tap to the butten 
>>> before the textbox containing the edit box it'll take to your 
>>> regular payment gateway which is accessible. The problem can be 
>>> device specific in your case.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/27/16, Shreedhar TS.  wrote:
 Hi Tilak,

 I am a regular Uber user and use paytm for almost all the bills 
 and recharges. I never faced the issue which you are describing 
 with regards to adding money with net banking. In my 
 experience, the Paytm app for android is completely accessible.
 Perhaps you can try updating Paytm app as well as Android web view.
 It
 is very essential to have Android web view updated since the 
 apps like paytm are heavily dependent on web view.

 On 11/27/16, Tilakprasad Joshi  wrote:
> Hi Ajay,
>
> I didn't find fully accessible, I am unable to add money to 
> Uber App from or adding Cash to Patm App itself, I use net 
> banking to ad cash I always go stuck on last stage where we 
> have to confirm or cancel link/button, they have ask for 
> screen shot how can we send the screen shot? here I am refer 
> to Android Apple OS.
>
> Warm Regards,
> Tilak.
>
> On 11/27/16, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
>>  hi it is already hundred percent accessible
>>
>> Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com
>>
>>
>> On November 27, 2016 12:18:28 PM Tilakprasad Joshi
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Friends!
>>>
>>> I wrote to Paytm requesting to make their app accessible with
>>> Talkback
>>> and Voice Over this is the response I got from them and I am not

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[AI] The Book to look for this month: "the Untold Story of the Talking Book" Matthew Rubery Harvard University Press

[avinash shahi]

 The Royal National Institute of Blind People began recording books on
to heavy fragile shellac records in 1935. Photograph: Andrew
Drysdale/Rex Feature
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/nov/21/unique-copy-of-first-full-length-audio-book-found-in-canada
A unique copy of the first full-length audio book ever made, a set of
four LPs recorded in 1935 with the full text of Joseph Conrad’s 1902
novella Typhoon, has been rediscovered in Canada.

The hunt continues for surviving copies of more of the earliest
titles, including The Gospel According to St John, and Agatha
Christie’s The Murder of Roger Ackroyd.

Selecting the books caused controversy at the time, with many blind
readers complaining of censorship, and that books judged good for them
were being selected instead of the kind of books sighted people were
reading. Many titles were rejected for passages of sex, violence or
profanity, or judged obscene – including classics like Muriel Spark’s
The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie.

The Royal National Institute of Blind People, which now has a library
of 25,000 titles available as digital downloads rather than the heavy
fragile shellac records of the 1930s, began creating audio books in
1935. They were originally intended for blind veterans of the first
world war, and it is believed Typhoon must have been taken to Canada
by a former armed forces member.

The recording resurfaced through research by Matthew Rubery, a
professor of modern literature at Queen Mary University of London, for
his new book on the history of talking books – which he regards as an
influential modern art form. A Canadian vintage record collector
contacted him to say he had acquired the Typhoon set, but had no idea
of its significance until he read of Rubery’s work.

Rubery said he had all but given up hope of tracking down the
recording. “This is a tremendous find for anyone interested in
literature, sound recording or the cultural heritage of blind and
partially sighted people.”

Mark McCree, the senior manager of the RNIB’s library and heritage
services, said: “Last year was our 80th anniversary, and to find one
of the original collection recordings after all these years is reason
to celebrate.”

The Untold Story of the Talking Book is published this month by
Harvard University Press.
-- 
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU


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Re: [AI] Smart work arounds

[Alok Kaushik]

Hi,
Is this app available for IOS as well? I tried searching for 'eye-D' in Apple 
App store but could not locate such an app.

Thanks.
Alok


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Satguru Rathi
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 4:20 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Smart work arounds

Hi,

In my case, I was able to red text from the immage. Make sure:
1. You have the latest version of the app.
2. The immage has the text in English only as the app doesn’t have support for 
Indian languages.


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From: jyothi
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 4:00 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.' 
Subject: [AI] Smart work arounds

I tried, but each time, I'm getting the error message "something wrong went 
with that image, pick a different 1 please?

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
shankar shan
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 6:41 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Smart workarounds

1. open WhatsApp.
2. go to the chat from which you got the image.
3. select the image by dubble tap and long press.
4. click on share.
5. click on image recagnation  eye-d app, and wait for the results from the 
talkback.

note: you need internet connection to use this service.

yes, you can solve the captcha using this app, but, you need to work around 
with it.

here, guess work takes place.

you cant expect perfect solution from this app.

this is just my opinion.




On 11/29/16, Mujeeb Rahman  wrote:
> Whatsapp images too will be read! sounds amazing and interesting!!
> Request the steps..
>
> On 11/29/16, shankar shan  wrote:
>> exactly, and also, without sighted assistance,  you can read all the 
>> information from the image  which you will get on WhatsApp and other 
>> social networking sites.
>> currently, the app is supporting the default language, bbut,its not 
>> supporting for other languages.
>>
>> if the person using Arabic language in there windows, it will be very 
>> much trubble for them, hence, the app developers has to add the 
>> international and indian languages with the app, so that, all lingual 
>> people might benifited.
>>
>>
>> On 11/28/16, Prashant Naik  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> As mentioned in the subject sharing one smart workaround. Such 
>>> workarounds we all must have innovated while working with access 
>>> technologies.  Today we have multiple devices with A T, combination 
>>> of them will be helpful.
>>> It
>>> will be a great thing if we share with the A I list for benefiting 
>>> others.
>>>
>>> One such case is suppose your PC has a bit locker login where we 
>>> need to enter password for booting of Windows OS.  In such case 
>>> screen reader will not get loaded till windows starts.  Many a times 
>>> we are unsure what’s on
>>> the screen.   Our dependency on human assistance to move further. In this
>>> case used Eye-D mobile app’s ‘Read text in image’ option. Wah! It 
>>> read screen with text ‘Bit locker enter the pin for windows drive’.  
>>> No more disturbing colleagues for the help.
>>>
>>> This work around you can use when system hangs and screen reader is 
>>> not responding or in case of reading notifications, messages, 
>>> alerts, screens, etc. where screen reader not reaching.
>>>
>>> Do share more.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Prashant Naik
>>>
>>> 9967968881
>>>
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>>
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>> whats app: +91  7795927572
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Re: [AI] Big step taken by NAB Delhi to make visually impaired students independent in reading and writing

[avinash shahi]

Excellent initiative – I wish it a great success.

On 12/5/16, Prashant Ranjan Verma  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I think NAB Delhi is the first institution in the country to take this
> pro-active step. When a solution is available, there is no reason the
> visually impaired should depend upon volunteers for writing and reading.
> Please see the document below, it is self-explanatory. We seek your support
> in its implementation.
>
> NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE BLIND
> Sector - 5, R.K. Puram, New Delhi - 110022
>
>
>
> CIRCULAR
>
> 3 December 2016
>
>
>
> Policy to make visually impaired students independent in writing
> examinations
>
>
>
> All teachers, students, parents and staff associated with NAB Delhi are
> requested to take a note of this important policy change.
>
>
>
> Recognizing the positive impact of introducing ICT in school education of
> the visually impaired children, NAB Delhi proposes to make all its Class 6
> to 12 students independent in reading and writing. NAB Delhi wants to do
> away with the practice of using Scribes and enable its students to write
> their examinations independently using computers.
>
>
>
> 1.  This policy covers all visually impaired students pursuing school
> education through the Integrated Education Department of NAB Delhi
> possessing a laptop either provided by NAB Delhi or their own
>
>
>
> 2.  Such students will have to compulsorily take the school
> examinations
> (unit tests, half yearly/yearly exams) of Class 6 to 12 using the computers
> after April 2017.
>
>
>
> 3.  The only exemption to this will be the board examination of Class
> 10
> and 12 till 2018.
>
>
>
> 4.  NAB Delhi will not arrange for scribes or make any payment for
> scribes after April 2017 to assist blind students in school examinations.
>
>
>
> 5.  A list of those students who have to write exams using the
> computers
> after April 2017 will be prepared and published before end of December
> 2016.
> Arrangements for computer training of these students will be made. These
> students will be evaluated for their typing speed, accuracy and computer
> operation skills before end of March 2017.
>
>
>
> 6.  I.Ed. teachers will ensure that their students develop the
> confidence and typing speed to take exams on the computers. Teachers will
> liaison with the Computer Department for training of students in their
> charge.
>
>
>
> 7.  The I.Ed. Department will sensitize the school and facilitate
> conduct of examinations in the school using the computer.
>
>
>
> 8.  Arrangements for computer training of all I.Ed. Teachers will be
> made in a phased manner. NAB will strive to provide adequate access to
> computers to the I.Ed. Teachers during work hours so that they can use the
> computers for teaching and evaluation. Till such time the I.Ed. teachers
> develop sufficient ICT skills, the Computer Unit will  be responsible for
> providing all technical assistance
>
>
>
> 9.  Students who yet do not have a laptop will be provided soon and
> will
> be brought under this policy at the earliest.
>
>
>
> 10.   Any exemption for any child on grounds of additional disability or
> otherwise. Must be sought from NAB Delhi President by the concerned
> teacher/parent.
>
>
>
> 11.   The Director Programs and I.Ed. Coordinator are responsible for
> implementation of this policy.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Prashant Ranjan Verma
>
> Hony. General Secretary
>
> Copy to
>
> 1.  All parents by post
>
> 2.  All I.Ed. Teachers
>
> 3.  All students through their teachers and parents
>
> 4.  Notice Board
>
>
>
>
>
>
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-- 
Avinash Shahi
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Re: [AI] Programme alert: do tune in to All India Radio FM Gold 9:30 pm today

[Kotian, H P]

Hi
To add, you may call up on 011 2331
There is a toll free number, which I don't have.
You can put in your queries / comments to the panelist. I would encourage AI 
members to avail it fully.
The queries has to be put between 9:30 - 10 pm.
Twitter too is available.
Harish Kotian


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avinash shahi
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 1:22 PM
To: disability-studies-india ; 
accessindia 
Subject: [AI] Programme alert: do tune in to All India Radio FM Gold 9:30 pm 
today

In the weekly half an hour programme 'publick speak' today, 'the steps taken by 
the government for the empowerment of PWDs' will be discussed. You can ask 
questions directly to the government representatives.

--
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU


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Re: [AI] DD News show on disability Day

[Preeti Monga]

Oh ho
There is  so much I say, I do manage to forget where I said what! Thanks for
reminding me! I am every day trying my very best to get blind people into
MNCs
Preeti Monga - Chief Executive Officer


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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of avinash shahi
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 16:00
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] DD News show on disability Day

Areh vahi, Multi-national company. Didn't you talk about how you were
asked by the company 'not to send any CV of blind people'? and they
went on to recruit someone with blindness. I wonder how you forget so
easily the show is not yet four days old.


On 12/5/16, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> And what is this MNC walla example? Please explain my dear!
>
> Preeti Monga - Chief Executive Officer
>
>
> Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY!
>
>
> Mobile : 91 9871701646
> Landline : 011 22781446
> E-mail : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org /preeti.mo...@gmail.com
> Website : www.silver-linings.org
> Our Services: Recruitment , Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes,
> Diversity & Inclusion, Prevention of Sexual Harassment
> Connect With Us :
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf
> Of avinash shahi
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 14:39
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] DD News show on disability Day
>
> Oh sorry, I skipped your name. sorry again. You put forward MNC vala
> example so brilliantly.
>
>
> On 12/5/16, Preeti Monga  wrote:
>> A small addition! I was there too on this show! Preeti Monga, Avnish I
>> think
>> you forgot to mention
>>
>> Warmly
>>
>> Preeti
>>
>>
>> Preeti Monga - Chief Executive Officer
>>
>>
>> Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY!
>>
>>
>> Mobile : 91 9871701646
>> Landline : 011 22781446
>> E-mail : preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org /preeti.mo...@gmail.com
>> Website : www.silver-linings.org
>> Our Services: Recruitment , Trainings- Unique Motivation Programmes,
>> Diversity & Inclusion, Prevention of Sexual Harassment
>> Connect With Us :
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf
>> Of avinash shahi
>> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 13:56
>> To: accessindia; jnuvision
>> Subject: [AI] DD News show on disability Day
>>
>> Do watch/listen
>> Experts: Mr Kaul, George Abraham, Prof Nilika Mehrotra and Avnish
>> Awasthi, JT Sec DEPWD government of india.
>> https://youtu.be/hB8pHloJCnI
>> --
>> Avinash Shahi
>> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU
>>
>>
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[AI] Big step taken by NAB Delhi to make visually impaired students independent in reading and writing

[Prashant Ranjan Verma]

Dear all,

I think NAB Delhi is the first institution in the country to take this
pro-active step. When a solution is available, there is no reason the
visually impaired should depend upon volunteers for writing and reading.
Please see the document below, it is self-explanatory. We seek your support
in its implementation.   

NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE BLIND 
Sector - 5, R.K. Puram, New Delhi - 110022 

 

CIRCULAR

3 December 2016 

 

Policy to make visually impaired students independent in writing
examinations

 

All teachers, students, parents and staff associated with NAB Delhi are
requested to take a note of this important policy change. 

 

Recognizing the positive impact of introducing ICT in school education of
the visually impaired children, NAB Delhi proposes to make all its Class 6
to 12 students independent in reading and writing. NAB Delhi wants to do
away with the practice of using Scribes and enable its students to write
their examinations independently using computers. 

 

1.  This policy covers all visually impaired students pursuing school
education through the Integrated Education Department of NAB Delhi
possessing a laptop either provided by NAB Delhi or their own 

 

2.  Such students will have to compulsorily take the school examinations
(unit tests, half yearly/yearly exams) of Class 6 to 12 using the computers
after April 2017.

 

3.  The only exemption to this will be the board examination of Class 10
and 12 till 2018. 

 

4.  NAB Delhi will not arrange for scribes or make any payment for
scribes after April 2017 to assist blind students in school examinations. 

 

5.  A list of those students who have to write exams using the computers
after April 2017 will be prepared and published before end of December 2016.
Arrangements for computer training of these students will be made. These
students will be evaluated for their typing speed, accuracy and computer
operation skills before end of March 2017.  

 

6.  I.Ed. teachers will ensure that their students develop the
confidence and typing speed to take exams on the computers. Teachers will
liaison with the Computer Department for training of students in their
charge. 

 

7.  The I.Ed. Department will sensitize the school and facilitate
conduct of examinations in the school using the computer. 

 

8.  Arrangements for computer training of all I.Ed. Teachers will be
made in a phased manner. NAB will strive to provide adequate access to
computers to the I.Ed. Teachers during work hours so that they can use the
computers for teaching and evaluation. Till such time the I.Ed. teachers
develop sufficient ICT skills, the Computer Unit will  be responsible for
providing all technical assistance  

 

9.  Students who yet do not have a laptop will be provided soon and will
be brought under this policy at the earliest. 

 

10.   Any exemption for any child on grounds of additional disability or
otherwise. Must be sought from NAB Delhi President by the concerned
teacher/parent. 

 

11.   The Director Programs and I.Ed. Coordinator are responsible for
implementation of this policy. 

 

 

 

Prashant Ranjan Verma 

Hony. General Secretary  

Copy to

1.  All parents by post 

2.  All I.Ed. Teachers  

3.  All students through their teachers and parents  

4.  Notice Board 

 

 


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Re: [AI] Smart work arounds

[Satguru Rathi]

Hi,

In my case, I was able to red text from the immage. Make sure:
1. You have the latest version of the app.
2. The immage has the text in English only as the app doesn’t have support for 
Indian languages.


With best regards,
Satguru
___,__.___
"Life's battle do not always go, to the stronger or faster man. But sooner or 
later the one who wins, is the one who thinks he can."

Satguru Rathi
+91-9871489945
+91-8076761833
satgurura...@gmail.com

From: jyothi 
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 4:00 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.' 
Subject: [AI] Smart work arounds

I tried, but each time, I'm getting the error message "something wrong went 
with that image, pick a different 1 please?

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
shankar shan
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 6:41 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Smart workarounds

1. open WhatsApp.
2. go to the chat from which you got the image.
3. select the image by dubble tap and long press.
4. click on share.
5. click on image recagnation  eye-d app, and wait for the results
from the talkback.

note: you need internet connection to use this service.

yes, you can solve the captcha using this app, but, you need to work
around with it.

here, guess work takes place.

you cant expect perfect solution from this app.

this is just my opinion.




On 11/29/16, Mujeeb Rahman  wrote:
> Whatsapp images too will be read! sounds amazing and interesting!!
> Request the steps..
>
> On 11/29/16, shankar shan  wrote:
>> exactly, and also, without sighted assistance,  you can read all the
>> information from the image  which you will get on WhatsApp and other
>> social networking sites.
>> currently, the app is supporting the default language, bbut,its not
>> supporting for other languages.
>>
>> if the person using Arabic language in there windows, it will be very
>> much trubble for them, hence, the app developers has to add the
>> international and indian languages with the app, so that, all lingual
>> people might benifited.
>>
>>
>> On 11/28/16, Prashant Naik  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> As mentioned in the subject sharing one smart workaround. Such
>>> workarounds
>>> we all must have innovated while working with access technologies.  Today
>>> we have multiple devices with A T, combination of them will be helpful.
>>> It
>>> will be a great thing if we share with the A I list for benefiting
>>> others.
>>>
>>> One such case is suppose your PC has a bit locker login where we need to
>>> enter password for booting of Windows OS.  In such case screen reader
>>> will
>>> not get loaded till windows starts.  Many a times we are unsure what’s on
>>> the screen.   Our dependency on human assistance to move further. In this
>>> case used Eye-D mobile app’s ‘Read text in image’ option. Wah! It read
>>> screen with text ‘Bit locker enter the pin for windows drive’.  No more
>>> disturbing colleagues for the help.
>>>
>>> This work around you can use when system hangs and screen reader is not
>>> responding or in case of reading notifications, messages, alerts,
>>> screens,
>>> etc. where screen reader not reaching.
>>>
>>> Do share more.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Prashant Naik
>>>
>>> 9967968881
>>>
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[AI] Smart work arounds

[jyothi]

I tried, but each time, I'm getting the error message "something wrong went 
with that image, pick a different 1 please?

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
shankar shan
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 6:41 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Smart workarounds

1. open WhatsApp.
2. go to the chat from which you got the image.
3. select the image by dubble tap and long press.
4. click on share.
5. click on image recagnation  eye-d app, and wait for the results
from the talkback.

note: you need internet connection to use this service.

yes, you can solve the captcha using this app, but, you need to work
around with it.

here, guess work takes place.

you cant expect perfect solution from this app.

this is just my opinion.




On 11/29/16, Mujeeb Rahman  wrote:
> Whatsapp images too will be read! sounds amazing and interesting!!
> Request the steps..
>
> On 11/29/16, shankar shan  wrote:
>> exactly, and also, without sighted assistance,  you can read all the
>> information from the image  which you will get on WhatsApp and other
>> social networking sites.
>> currently, the app is supporting the default language, bbut,its not
>> supporting for other languages.
>>
>> if the person using Arabic language in there windows, it will be very
>> much trubble for them, hence, the app developers has to add the
>> international and indian languages with the app, so that, all lingual
>> people might benifited.
>>
>>
>> On 11/28/16, Prashant Naik  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> As mentioned in the subject sharing one smart workaround. Such
>>> workarounds
>>> we all must have innovated while working with access technologies.  Today
>>> we have multiple devices with A T, combination of them will be helpful.
>>> It
>>> will be a great thing if we share with the A I list for benefiting
>>> others.
>>>
>>> One such case is suppose your PC has a bit locker login where we need to
>>> enter password for booting of Windows OS.  In such case screen reader
>>> will
>>> not get loaded till windows starts.  Many a times we are unsure what’s on
>>> the screen.   Our dependency on human assistance to move further. In this
>>> case used Eye-D mobile app’s ‘Read text in image’ option. Wah! It read
>>> screen with text ‘Bit locker enter the pin for windows drive’.  No more
>>> disturbing colleagues for the help.
>>>
>>> This work around you can use when system hangs and screen reader is not
>>> responding or in case of reading notifications, messages, alerts,
>>> screens,
>>> etc. where screen reader not reaching.
>>>
>>> Do share more.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Prashant Naik
>>>
>>> 9967968881
>>>
>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility
>>> of
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>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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>>
>>
>> --
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>> whats app: +91  7795927572
>> skype: Shankar.a
>> email: shankarsai...@gmail.com
>> Thanks and regards
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>>
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> MRS
> "It's 

Re: [AI] DD News show on disability Day

[avinash shahi]

Areh vahi, Multi-national company. Didn't you talk about how you were
asked by the company 'not to send any CV of blind people'? and they
went on to recruit someone with blindness. I wonder how you forget so
easily the show is not yet four days old.


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> And what is this MNC walla example? Please explain my dear!
>
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> -Original Message-
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> Of avinash shahi
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 14:39
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] DD News show on disability Day
>
> Oh sorry, I skipped your name. sorry again. You put forward MNC vala
> example so brilliantly.
>
>
> On 12/5/16, Preeti Monga  wrote:
>> A small addition! I was there too on this show! Preeti Monga, Avnish I
>> think
>> you forgot to mention
>>
>> Warmly
>>
>> Preeti
>>
>>
>> Preeti Monga - Chief Executive Officer
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf
>> Of avinash shahi
>> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 13:56
>> To: accessindia; jnuvision
>> Subject: [AI] DD News show on disability Day
>>
>> Do watch/listen
>> Experts: Mr Kaul, George Abraham, Prof Nilika Mehrotra and Avnish
>> Awasthi, JT Sec DEPWD government of india.
>> https://youtu.be/hB8pHloJCnI
>> --
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>> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU
>>
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[AI] For Millions of Indians with Disabilities making online payments is tough call

[Sruti disAbility Rights Centre]

*http://globalaccessibilitynews.com/2016/11/23/for-millions-of-indians-with-disabilities-making-payments-online-is-tough-call/
*

*BANGALORE, INDIA:* Booking cabs, buying food and making payments online
seem like they’re just a swipe and a tap away, but for millions of Indians
with disabilities, these apps are not designed for them to use.


According to a study conducted by Centre for Internet and Society (CIS)
last month, many of the most-commonly used mobile apps for food delivery,
online payments, grocery shopping and transportation were not accessible to
people with vision disabilities. The study covered 22 apps.

The 2011 census puts the number of people with disabilities in the country
at 26 million, while advocacy groups say the real figure is closer to 150
million. Last year, India recorded nearly nine billion downloads of
mobile-based applications last year.

“The national policy for universal electronic accessibility says that all
IT products and services should be accessible. However, the government is
still unable to implement it. Several government apps are inaccessible,”
said Nirmita Narasimhan, policy director at CIS. CIS’s survey of some key
government mobile based applications like My Gov, EPathshala and Prime
Minister Narendra Modi’s official app found them to be severely lacking.
The illiterate, aged and those not proficient in English would also
struggle with the apps, the study found. The guidelines for government
websites laid out accessibility standards in 2009. The 2013 national policy
on universal electronic accessibility clearly upholds equal rights
“ensuring that accessibility standards and guidelines and universal design
concepts are adopted and adhered to.”

However, most commonly-used apps fail to follow this. All 22 of the apps
studied were privately owned but not all were fully compliant with
universal standards. Of taxi-hailing apps Meru, Ola and Uber, only Uber was
completely accessible to the disabled. The others had mis-labelled or
unlabeled buttons and graphics.

When it came to food delivery, Zomato was the best at replicating the user
experience for people with disabilities. Swiggy and Foodpanda were
difficult for new users, and Freshmenu was completely inaccessible.

Of the marketplace apps, Amazon and Snapdeal were the only accessible ones.
Myntra and Flipkart had incorrectly labelled buttons and misleading graphic
tags, which made them impossible for people with disabilities to use. For
instance, customers would be able to select the product they wanted to buy
but had no way of choosing the quantity, the study said. Online grocery
delivery apps Grofers and Zop Now were hard for people with disabilities to
use, while Big Basket was relatively better though pages change during
orders. Online payment portals Paytm, Oxigen and FreeCharge were relatively
accessible, the study found.

“Designers, developers and industries need to realize that there are more
people out there who use this technology .The market is much bigger and
they should work towards being inclusive,” said Narasimhan of CIS.

Albinder Dhinda, cofounder of grocery delivery service Grofers, said their
app meets all accessibility requirements. “However, the disability tools
provided by Google Play Store or the App Store often don’t benefit the user
and are hard for them to use. We are trying to make it better. Things like
online payments won’t be accessible to people with disabilities as those
apps are supported by third party sites, and don’t fall within our
settings. We’re trying to make it better. We’re three years behind the US,
in the playground they made. It’ll be a while before we reach their level,”
he said.

Source: Times of India

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Re: [AI] typing exam

[REKHA REVATHY]

Hi
In ssc exams we are provided with readers who will read out the content for
typing we have to type without support of screen readers
I don't know whether there are any recent developments in this regards
Hope this helps
Best
Rekha
On Dec 5, 2016 10:49 AM, "anjali Anand"  wrote:

> friends  please inform and educate me as to how is typing exam for
> visually impaired conducted? what facilities would be required for
> appearing in such test? how is the material provided?
> and any other relevant information.
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Re: [AI] DD News show on disability Day

[Preeti Monga]

And what is this MNC walla example? Please explain my dear!

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Of avinash shahi
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 14:39
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Subject: Re: [AI] DD News show on disability Day

Oh sorry, I skipped your name. sorry again. You put forward MNC vala
example so brilliantly.


On 12/5/16, Preeti Monga  wrote:
> A small addition! I was there too on this show! Preeti Monga, Avnish I
> think
> you forgot to mention
>
> Warmly
>
> Preeti
>
>
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>
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> To: accessindia; jnuvision
> Subject: [AI] DD News show on disability Day
>
> Do watch/listen
> Experts: Mr Kaul, George Abraham, Prof Nilika Mehrotra and Avnish
> Awasthi, JT Sec DEPWD government of india.
> https://youtu.be/hB8pHloJCnI
> --
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Re: [AI] DD News show on disability Day

[avinash shahi]

Oh sorry, I skipped your name. sorry again. You put forward MNC vala
example so brilliantly.


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[AI] Aadarsh jain reports in the Times of India: Tamil Nadu universities have failed disabled people

[avinash shahi]

December 5 2016
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/coimbatore/Tamil-Nadu-universities-ignore-disabled-while-hiring/articleshow/55798045.cms
COIMBATORE: Most state-run universities in Tamil Nadu ignore the 3%
reservation for candidates with physical disability, thanks to the
absence of penalty measures against violators in the Persons with
Disability (PwD) Act, 1995.
.

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Shockingly, both the universities and the state government have
flouted the directions from the Madras high court and the Supreme
Court in this regard.
.

.
Presently, a petition has been filed in Madras high court against
Bharathiar University for not inviting applications from people with
disability to the 81 posts it filled up recently.
.

.
"The university didn't advertise about the reservation. According to
the PwD Act, 3% of vacancies should be reserved for the
physically-disabled candidates. This means three posts should have
been allotted to persons with disability," said a teacher who is privy
to the petition in the high court.
.

.
In 2007, former syndicate member of Thiruvallur University, I
Elangovan, had moved the HC against the Bharathiar University for the
same offence. "The HC bench at that time had took note of the failure
of both the university and the state government to implement the rule
which forced me to move the court often," Elangovan said.
.

.
"Despite issuing orders in many cases, the universities or state
government officials have not paid heed to the rule (PwD Act, 1995),"
the former professor and head of English department at Thiruvallur
University recalled the observation the court made then.
.

.
Madras University too seem to have failed to follow the PwD Act, 1995.
Its response to a petition filed under the Right to Information Act,
2005, claimed that three candidates had been recruited under the
physically disabled category so far.
.

.
"But, the university failed to provide the details of the total
recruitments between 1996 and 2006, so that there is a clear picture
of how many differently-abled candidates should have been recruited,"
said the petitioner, who did not want to be named.
.

.
"There is a Supreme Court order in this matter wherein the former
chief justice of India, P Sathasivam, directed the Madras University
to fill all the backlog vacancies in the future recruitments," the
petitioner said. A copy of this judgement is with TOI.
.

Most universities, Elangovan said, do not even identify vacancies for
the people with disability.

.


.
"You cannot appoint a person with locomotor disability to chemistry or
physics departments because s/he cannot stand in the lab for hours
together. It is important to create a vacancy keeping in mind the
disability of the candidate," he said.
.

.
Teachers' associations said people with disabilities have lost faith
in the recruitment process and many didn't move the court as it
usually takes long periods to settle the matter.

.


.
"The court may rule in their favour. But, nobody is bothered about the
court ruling. Unless courts order punishment for the erring officials,
the Act will never be followed to its full effect," said M
Ravichandran, president of Association of University Teachers.
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Re: [AI] DD News show on disability Day

[Preeti Monga]

A small addition! I was there too on this show! Preeti Monga, Avnish I think
you forgot to mention

Warmly

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Subject: [AI] DD News show on disability Day

Do watch/listen
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[AI] DD News show on disability Day

[avinash shahi]

Do watch/listen
Experts: Mr Kaul, George Abraham, Prof Nilika Mehrotra and Avnish
Awasthi, JT Sec DEPWD government of india.
https://youtu.be/hB8pHloJCnI
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Re: [AI] reasoning ability ebook

[Sunil Sangtani.]

have you checked the menu options by pressing alt while the book is
opened in your brouzer window?
if my memory serves me right,
you should get the save as pdf option in the file menu.


On 11/30/16, Chandrashekhar Kulkarni  wrote:
> Dear list member,
> I visited the link given for downloading the verbal reasoning book by
> R. S. Agarwal. But was unable to download the entire book from the
> site. The book  opens in the browser but will you please explain how
> can it be downloaded for future use.
> Thanks and regards,
> C. B. Kulkarni
>
> On 30/11/2016, Maitreya Shah  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> if its the verbal reasoning book you are asking for,
>>  download it from here:
>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17950485/R%20S%20aggarwal%20verbal%20reasoning.pdf
>>
>> On 11/29/16, vedika phadke  wrote:
>>> Is the reasoning ability ebook of R. S. Aggarwal available in same
>>> format
>>> to
>>> download?
>>>
>>> Please inform how to download the reasoning ebook!
>>>
>>> thanks to all!
>>>
>>> Vedika
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 09:51:25 +0530 Maitreya Shah  wrote
>>>
Hi Naga,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> you can download the ebook from here:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17950485/Quantitative%20aptitude%20%28r.s.%20aggarwal%29.zip
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I amn't sure about the quality of the ebook, give it a try.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> see if this works.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/28/16, Nagababu Arepalli  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
 Sir,
>>>
>>>
>>>
 The exam is on first of december.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>>
>>>
>>>
 On 11/27/16, Amar Jain  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
> Hi Naga,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> Which author? Is it RS Agarwal? While I don't have it, but let me try.
>>>
>>>
>>>
> When
>>>
>>>
>>>
> is the exam?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
> Amar Jain
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> On 27-Nov-2016, at 8:57 PM, Nagababu Arepalli
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Dear all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>  Could somebody provide me the book mentioned in the subject it is
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> immediate need in deed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> [Sincerely,]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Nagababu Arepalli national law university odisha,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> cuttack
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> B.A.L.L.B
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> "associate at compass law associates"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> PH: +919000963966>+918688071288
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> mail ID:
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>>>
>>>
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