Re: [AI] Irritant with NVDA voice

2020-02-14 Thread Satguru Rathi

Hi,


I don't know where do you get your facts from as you have said "Since 
NVDA is open source software & crack software can't work with this one". 
As you remember, the previous eloquence was not a valid one and was 
indeed a cracked one. I don't remember seeing anywhere anything being 
said about eloquence being made open source. Being an open source 
software doesn't mean you can not use some crack addon with that. And, 
modding something to something and changing the name doesn't make that 
thing one's property and eloquence was and remains to this day a 
copyright property unless the original developers choose to declare it 
open source which they haven't yet done. I will no more right on this 
and will leave it for the moderators to decide. If you think you can 
convince them for the legality of your post, I have no problem and have 
nothing against you personally.





With best regards,
Satguru Rathi
Mobile: +919871489945, +919315516985

On 14-02-2020 07:10 pm, B. R. Nautial wrote:
Since NVDA is open sourse software & crack software can't work with 
this one. Though this belongs to another company but its not a crack 
one. previously many of us were using mobile speak, it was also from 
Code Factory instead of Talks software. I know the rules and 
regulations of this group very well.
- Original Message - From: "Satguru Rathi" 

To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled." 

Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Irritant with NVDvoice



Hi,


Though Eloquence is no longer being developed, and previous one being 
offered by the same site too, was not an authorized one, I wonder if 
this can be considered as valid one as this is a modded version of 
the previous Eloquence by the same people and may violate the 
copyright laws. Using it or not is a personal choice but sharing it 
on the group needs to be re-thought.




With best regards,
Satguru Rathi
Mobile: +919871489945, +919315516985

On 13-02-2020 06:35 pm, B. R. Nautial wrote:

Hello Sir!
You can download the latest IBM synthasizer through the given link. 
you need to install the same like earlier eloquence.
https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1yTD174vaMapYHJ_ixxHTeXmCFTCOAbz1=download 

- Original Message - From: "Harish Kumar P Kotian" 

To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled." 

Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:25 AM
Subject: [AI] Irritant with NVDA voice



All
Pl find below a post from George which did not get on the list.
I am also responding with  inline.
Harish.

Quoting:
Just yesterday, I believe the latest update from NVDA was released. 
I downloaded the same and installed. I was surprise when the 
voice/speech had dramatically dropped in quality. No idea how I can 
restore the earlier voice quality. Presently it is quite an 
irritant to use NVDA. Any way out?
 It is because most of the plugins have to be updated. You may 
change the TTS to Windows Core voice for the present until there is 
clarity and fix for the add-ons.

Harish

George Abraham
CEO
Score Foundation
17/107 LGF
Vikram Vihar
Lajpat Nagar 4
New Delhi 110024
Email: geo...@eyeway.org
Ph: +91 11 26472581/2
Mob: +91 9810934040
Website: www.scorefoundation.org.in , www.eyeway.org
Twitter: @georgebhai
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[AI] Any UEB Enthusiasts Around?

2020-02-14 Thread Saaqib Mahmuud
Hello once again to all the AccessIndia mates! 


I've since June 2016 been working on the Unified English Braille (UEB) and have 
recently even volunteered as the instructor for a fortnight-long training 
programme on UEB Mathematics for the teachers of a school for blind girls.

If there are any AccessIndia list members working on the UEB (i.e. learning the 
UEB, teaching the UEB to others, transcribing braille books and other materials 
in the UEB, or have access to UEB materials), I would love to get in touch with 
those fellows!

Regards.

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[AI] JAWS & Related Stuff - A WhatsApp Group

2020-02-14 Thread Saaqib Mahmuud
Hi AccessIndia mates? Hope you'de be fine.
I've created a WhatsApp group by the name of JAWS & Related Stuff.
This group is for asking and answering questions on or about the JAWS for 
Windows computer screen reading program and also for seeking and providing 
information related to all matters JAWS and using Windows with JAWS; 
occasionally even other screen reader solutions can also come under discussion.
If anybody on this list who is not already in the JAWS & Related Stuff WhatsApp 
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Re: [AI] IRCTC Accessibility

2020-02-14 Thread Dr Aruni Sharma
Hello, You can directly enter the date in the edit box located next to the
destination edit box. You must use hyphen symbol instead of slash for this
purpose. The IRCTC app has many issues as of now. Personally I like using
NVDA or Narrator screen readers for booking tickets on the website.

Thanks and regards,
Dr. Aruni Sharma.
Associate Professor,
Dept. of Political Science,
Shri Jai Narayan Mishr PG College,
Lucknow, India.
twitter: www.twitter.com/arunisharma
facebook: www.facebook.com/arunisharma
Skype: arunisha...@outlook.com




On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 12:48 PM Vinod Benjamin 
wrote:

> Dear Accessindians,
>
> I am trying to get my self to access IRCTC website and the Androyd
> Apk, i could find a great difficulty in accessing them.
> 1. the calender in the irctc website seems to be in accessible,
> 2. both the androyd apk and in the portel the train list it seems to b
> in accessible.
> do you have any other option to access them.
> or in any way could we tell this to IRCTC?
> the previous version was better in turms of the booking page or
> finding the seets availability .
> kindly help.
>
> Regards,
> Vinod Benjamin
> +919841554430 (Call/Whatsapp)
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Re: [AI] Irritant with NVDA voice

2020-02-14 Thread B. R. Nautial
Since NVDA is open sourse software & crack software can't work with this 
one. Though this belongs to another company but its not a crack one. 
previously many of us were using mobile speak, it was also from Code Factory 
instead of Talks software. I know the rules and regulations of this group 
very well.
- Original Message - 
From: "Satguru Rathi" 
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." 

Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Irritant with NVDvoice



Hi,


Though Eloquence is no longer being developed, and previous one being 
offered by the same site too, was not an authorized one, I wonder if this 
can be considered as valid one as this is a modded version of the previous 
Eloquence by the same people and may violate the copyright laws. Using it 
or not is a personal choice but sharing it on the group needs to be 
re-thought.




With best regards,
Satguru Rathi
Mobile: +919871489945, +919315516985

On 13-02-2020 06:35 pm, B. R. Nautial wrote:

Hello Sir!
You can download the latest IBM synthasizer through the given link. you 
need to install the same like earlier eloquence.

https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1yTD174vaMapYHJ_ixxHTeXmCFTCOAbz1=download
- Original Message - From: "Harish Kumar P Kotian" 

To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled." 

Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2020 10:25 AM
Subject: [AI] Irritant with NVDA voice



All
Pl find below a post from George which did not get on the list.
I am also responding with  inline.
Harish.

Quoting:
Just yesterday, I believe the latest update from NVDA was released. I 
downloaded the same and installed. I was surprise when the voice/speech 
had dramatically dropped in quality. No idea how I can restore the 
earlier voice quality. Presently it is quite an irritant to use NVDA. 
Any way out?
 It is because most of the plugins have to be updated. You may 
change the TTS to Windows Core voice for the present until there is 
clarity and fix for the add-ons.

Harish

George Abraham
CEO
Score Foundation
17/107 LGF
Vikram Vihar
Lajpat Nagar 4
New Delhi 110024
Email: geo...@eyeway.org
Ph: +91 11 26472581/2
Mob: +91 9810934040
Website: www.scorefoundation.org.in , www.eyeway.org
Twitter: @georgebhai
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Re: [AI] Mobile banking apps

2020-02-14 Thread George Abraham
Are you able to do fund transfer using immobile?
 I have problems with it on my iPhone using voice over.



.Original Message-
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Singhal, Vivek (?, ?)
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2020 5:45 PM
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Subject: [AI] Mobile banking apps

Dear Sir,
I am using the following two mobile banking apps on Iphone 5s :
1. ICICI Bank
2. M+ from Bank of Baroda.

I am happy to share that both the apps are accessible  and I am able to 
transact  independently with Voiceover.
Hope you find above useful.

Regards,
Vivek Singhal,






अस्वीकरण
यह संदेश इंडियनऑयल मेसेजिंग गेटवे, भारत से भेजा गया है। इस इलेक्ट्रॉनिक संदेश 
में निहित जानकारी और इसके साथ कोई भी संलग्‍नक केवल प्रेषित व्यक्ति (यों) के लिए 
ही है और इसमे स्वामित्व, गोपनीय या विशेषाधिकार प्राप्त जानकारी हो सकती है। यदि 
आप वांछित प्राप्तकर्ता नहीं हैं तो आपको इस ई-मेल को प्रसारित, वितरित या कॉपी 
नहीं करना चाहिए। कृपया इसकी सूचना तुरंत प्रेषक को दें और इस संदेश की सभी 
प्रतियां और सभी संलग्‍नक नष्ट कर दें। राजभाषा हिन्दी में हम आपके पत्रों का 
स्वागत करते है। 

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[AI] Mobile banking apps

2020-02-14 Thread सिंघल, विवेक
Dear Sir,
I am using the following two mobile banking apps on Iphone 5s :
1. ICICI Bank
2. M+ from Bank of Baroda.

I am happy to share that both the apps are accessible  and I am able to 
transact  independently with Voiceover.
Hope you find above useful.

Regards,
Vivek Singhal,






अस्वीकरण
यह संदेश इंडियनऑयल मेसेजिंग गेटवे, भारत से भेजा गया है। इस इलेक्ट्रॉनिक संदेश 
में निहित जानकारी और इसके साथ कोई भी संलग्‍नक केवल प्रेषित व्यक्ति (यों) के लिए 
ही है और इसमे स्वामित्व, गोपनीय या विशेषाधिकार प्राप्त जानकारी हो सकती है। यदि 
आप वांछित प्राप्तकर्ता नहीं हैं तो आपको इस ई-मेल को प्रसारित, वितरित या कॉपी 
नहीं करना चाहिए। कृपया इसकी सूचना तुरंत प्रेषक को दें और इस संदेश की सभी 
प्रतियां और सभी संलग्‍नक नष्ट कर दें।
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[AI] Apartment Registration at Noida

2020-02-14 Thread सिंघल, विवेक
Dear friends,

I have to initiate  the apartment registration process very soon. I would like 
to seek the help regarding from our learned friends on the list.
I shall be happy to  call our friends who might have  undergone the experience 
of interacting with different agencies for undertaking apartment registration 
at Noida.
I have purchased a flat in Noida jointly with my wife (sighted).  As per the 
standard document checklist  I am required to attach signature verification 
certificate from bank. My problem is that my signature does not match.  I am 
not sure if I would be able to reproduce the signatures that have been attested 
by bank on many other documents that I might be required to sign.  Please guide 
how to overcome this issue.
I would request list members who might have registered flat at Noida to write 
to me off the list for sharing their valuable experience.

Regards,
Vivek Singhal,






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में निहित जानकारी और इसके साथ कोई भी संलग्‍नक केवल प्रेषित व्यक्ति (यों) के लिए 
ही है और इसमे स्वामित्व, गोपनीय या विशेषाधिकार प्राप्त जानकारी हो सकती है। यदि 
आप वांछित प्राप्तकर्ता नहीं हैं तो आपको इस ई-मेल को प्रसारित, वितरित या कॉपी 
नहीं करना चाहिए। कृपया इसकी सूचना तुरंत प्रेषक को दें और इस संदेश की सभी 
प्रतियां और सभी संलग्‍नक नष्ट कर दें।
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[AI] Weekend read: Accessible at last?: what do new European digital accessibility laws mean for disabled people in the UK?:

2020-02-14 Thread avinash shahi
Abstract
Recent changes to the regulation of digital services could represent a
step-change in the accessibility of public sector websites and
applications in the UK and across Europe. Accessibility will be
centrally monitored meaning the onus is no longer exclusively on
disabled people to issue legal challenges to digital exclusion. How
will these changes affect disabled people in the UK, in light of
Brexit and the complex relationship between standards and disability?
Our society is becoming increasingly reliant on digital platforms.
When checking in at the doctor’s surgery, applying for a school place
or submitting a tax return, we are expected to interact with digital
platforms every day as governments and public services embrace
‘digital-first’ approaches, ostensibly to provide more efficient and
effective services. Disability has been a driver of technical
innovation in these digital domains. Early in the history of the Web,
inventor Tim Berners-Lee stated ‘The power of the Web is in its
universality. Access by everyone, regardless of disability is an
essential aspect’ (W3C 1997). However, for disabled people who use
assistive technology or need adaptations (such as increased
text-size), there has been no guarantee that digital services will
work as both the Web and digital tools have proliferated, and services
have diverged from their universalist origins. At the same time, the
digital accessibility standards mandated by pre-existing legislation
(UNCRPD 2017; Equality Act 2010) have not been enforced. While
internet use among disabled people is increasing in the UK (ONS,
2019), the lack of progress improving digital accessibility across the
UK and Europe is troubling (House of Commons Work and Pensions
Committee 2018).

Things could be about to change. In September 2019, new regulations
that entered the UK statute back in 2018 came into force, with the
potential to remake the digital accessibility landscape. These
regulations, the Public Sector Bodies (Websites and Mobile
Applications) (No 2) Accessibility Regulations (Public Sector Bodies
2018), are the first to specifically require organisations to ensure
their websites, documents and mobile apps are accessible to all. The
regulations require public sector organisations to comply with digital
accessibility standards (such as WCAG 2.1 Level AA 2008) and publish
an accessibility statement. Moreover, in section 5.11 the regulations
also explicitly identify the provision of accessible digital services
and alternative formats as ‘reasonable adjustments’ under the Equality
Act (2010). These moves offer a concrete legal impetus towards
accessibility.

The regulations originate from the EU directive 2016/2102 on the
accessibility of the websites and mobile applications of public sector
bodies (European Commission (EC), 2016), which support the Digital
Agenda for Europe as well as the implementation of the UNCRPD (2017)
in members states. While the regulations are technical, importantly
the key purpose of the directive is twofold; first, to ensure that all
citizens can access services and participate in society, and promote
and facilitate accessible digital developments; and second, to
mitigate the need for individuals to take legal action to ensure basic
access. To this end, the success or failure of digital accessibility
in the public sector will be centrally monitored for the first time.

These mechanisms are sorely needed. For example, in 2017 with the roll
out of Universal Credit - a transformation of the UK social security
payment system - applications can only be made online. Applicants have
had to complete application forms that had no ‘save’ or return
function and timed-out after 20 min of inactivity, whilst battling
with a complex form system in which ‘41 separate pieces of information
are need to be entered online in order to complete the claim’ (Easton
2014). Accessibility audits by the DWP appear not to have been
completed until 2016 (Anderson 2016). And online barriers have
continued, making applications practically impossible for many with
learning disabilities, amongst others (Hc Deb 2019). This
inaccessibility, in combination with ‘built-in delay’ to payments
(Universal Credit is paid monthly in arrears, resulting in a five-week
wait for the first payment) has proven a tipping point pushing many
into hardship and debt.

To mitigate such failings, the new directive sets out a Europe-wide
framework for monitoring and enforcing accessibility. EU national
governments will now sample a proportion of their websites annually.
This will require national monitoring teams to do a simplified
accessibility check on a sample of their public sector websites. In
the UK this will be approximately 2,000 of 44,000 websites covering
education, health, welfare, local and central government services.
Sampling will be guided by complaints escalated to the government as
well as feedback from representatives of the disabled community. The
process is designed to 

[AI] paper of interest: The customer is always right: Study on Chinese persons with sight loss’ opinion on audio description:

2020-02-14 Thread avinash shahi
Abstract
Audio description is in its infancy in China, both in terms of the
provision of the service and as an academic object of study. This
article provides a useful insight into what Chinese audio description
users think of this access service and how they consume it. This
information was gathered through two different questionnaires, mostly
distributed in the city of Shanghai, although not exclusively. The
results show what the profile of the audio description user is, how
satisfied they are with the service that is currently available and
their expectations for the future. Only after identifying the areas
that matter to users the most can both science and industry contribute
to guaranteeing their rights in the best possible way.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09687599.2020.1713727
-- 
सादर/ Regards

अविनाश शाही/ Avinash Shahi
सहायक/ Assistant
मानव संसाधन प्रबंध विभाग/ Human Resource Management Department
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक/ Reserve Bank of India
लखनऊ क्षेत्रीय कार्यालय/Lucknow RO
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2020-02-14 Thread Eyeway Helpdesk
Dear All,
Greetings from the National Eyeway Helpdesk
Please, follow below the Daily Eyeway Alerts:
1. News-
Health Department set to start eye collection centres in district hospitals
Move aimed at bridging the gap between demand and supply of corneas
To promote eye donation and bridge the huge gap between demand and
supply of corneas, the Health Department is set to start eye
collection centres in district hospitals soon.
Increasing the number of eye donations is crucial as corneal blindness
can be treated only through transplantation from eye donations as
there is no substitute for human tissue. Source:
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/health-department-set-to-start-eye-collection-centres-in-district-hospitals/article30814383.ece
2. Jobs-
One post as Executive Officer (Executive State Municipal Services) (on
contract basis) for Low Vision in Himachal Pradesh Public Service
Commission (HPPSC). Qualifications: A candidates must possess a
Bachelor’s degree in any discipline from an Institution/ University
recognized by the Govt. The candidates are required to submit a
printout of online recruitment applications (ORA) alongwith self
attested / attested copies of requisite documents in support of their
eligibility for the concerned post(s) on the day of Screening Test or
as & when advised by the Commission and in other cases where direct
Personality Test will be held, 10 days time will be given to submit
requisite documents failing which his/ her candidature shall stand
finally rejected as per essential qualification(s) for the concerned
post(s). No extra time will be given for submission of any documents.
Age Limit: 18-45 years. Apply online through official website of the
Commission: www.hppsc.hp.gov.in/hppsc. For complete details:
http://www.hppsc.hp.gov.in/hppsc/WriteReadData/LINKS/Advertisement%20No%202202033b1bede-a397-419f-98a8-26b5e8684422.pdf.
Last date March 04, 2020. More at
http://www.eyeway.org/?q=executive-officer-himachal-pradesh-public-service-commission-hppsc
Required Medical Physicist, Medical Laboratory Technologist,
Stenographer, Assistant Warden for Low Vision in All India Medical
Science Institute (AIIMS), Delhi. Qualification: (i) Medical
Physicist: (i) Post Graduate Degree in Physics from a recognized
University. (ii) A Post M.sc, diploma in radiological/medical physics
from a recognized University; & (iii) An internship of minimum 12
months in a recognized well-equipped radiation therapy department. Age
Limit: 35 years. (ii) Medical Laboratory Technologist: Bachelors
Degree in Medical Laboratory Technology/Mecdical Laboratory Science
from a Govt. recognized university/institution with two years relevant
experience in a Laboratory attached with ahospital having minimum 100
beds. Age Limit: 30 years. (iii) Stenographer: (i) 12th class pass or
equivalent qualification from a recognized Board or University OR
Matriculation or equivalent qualification from a recognized board or
university with 5 years's service (regular or ad-hoc) as Stenographer
in Govt. Organisation/Institution. (ii) Skill Test Norms. Dictation:
10 mts @ 80 w.p.m. Transcription: 50 mts (English) & 65 mts. (Hindi)
(only on computers) Age Limit: 27 years. (iv) Assistant Warden: 1.
Degree from a recognized university. ii. Certificate/Diploma in House
keeping/Material Management/Public Relations/Estate Management from a
recognized Institution. Age Limit: 30 years. The online registration
of applications is made available on AIIMS website www.aiimsexams.org.
In case a candidate wishes to apply for more than one post, he/she is
required to fill in the form separately through online mode only. For
complete details visit:
https://www.aiims.edu/images/pdf/recruitment/advertisement/rectt-10-2-20.pdf.
Last date: March 12, 2020. More at
http://www.eyeway.org/?q=medical-physicist-medical-laboratory-technologist-assistant-warden-all-india-institute-medical
3. Event-
Annual fest “Utsav” on 19 February, 2020.
 Zakir Husain Delhi
College,Enabling Unit “Hum Honge Kamyab”  Cordially invites you to
attend/participate in its annual fest “Utsav” on 19 February, 2020.
Venue- ZHDC Auditorium
Time- 9 am.

You are requested to send entries of interested students for the
following competitions.
Date:19.02.2020
1.  Solo Singing   : 10 am onwards
2.  Solo Dance : 11 am onwards
3.  Quiz : 12 pm onwards
4.  Braille Writing  : 10 am
5   Poetries: 02 pm
Rules
Braille Writing Competition
1.Participants are requested to bring their own Braille slates and styles.
2. Both contracted and open Braille is allowed.
3. Topic for writing will be announced on the day itself.
Solo Dance
1.Participants are requested to bring their own CD/DVDs with music
2.3 + 1 minute will be given to each participant.
 Semi Classical singing
1.Each participant is requested to bring his/her own instrument and
the player to support.
2. Each participant will be