Re: [AI] Call for names of inaccessible apps/websites

2021-11-06 Thread Yasir Jan
Bhim by n p c I is also inaccessible

On Sat, Nov 6, 2021, 7:44 PM Amar Jain  wrote:

> Tejaswi help us with audit assessment. Ping me on 9892622230. Will speak
> to Dhananjay as well. Thank you.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 06-Nov-2021, at 5:10 PM, Vemuri Tejaswi 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Greetings Rahul,
>
> Few more apps which are inaccessible in on Android which I'd like to add a
> re
> 1 hotstar
> 2 zee five
> 3 you know SBI and you know light SBi
>
> On Sat, 6 Nov, 2021, 11:46 Amar Jain,  wrote:
>
>> Amina-you can help with accessibility audit. Can you ping me on
>> +91-9892622230? Thank you.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 06-Nov-2021, at 11:06 AM, vikas shivsharan 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> bhim app
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 4:14 PM Amena Kanchwala 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rahul,
>>> It is really a good innitiative. Happy to be the part of the same.
>>> Few more applications which are inaccessible are:- make my trip, yatra
>>> and indigo.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Amena
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 1:59 PM George Abraham 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Happy to collaborate!

 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
 accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
 Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 12:28 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Call for names of inaccessible apps/websites

 Thanks, George sir. I read the transcript of your conversation with
 Lainey with great interest. I have been in touch with Lainey for some years
 now, and we will definitely consult her as we move forward. We would love
 to have you as a consultant as well, if you have the inclination and time
 to contribute.

 Warmly,
 Rahul



 On 04/11/2021, George Abraham  wrote:
 > Interesting coincidence! We are talking of Structured Negotiation on
 > the day we had released our Podcast Eyeway Conversations with Lainey
 > Feingold. She has extensively used Structured Negotiation to address
 > challenges faced by blind persons in the space of inclusion and
 > access.  Lainey speaks at length on her success and experiences with
 > Structured Negotiation on the Podcast. I had shared the link on AI on
 > Tuesday the 2nd. Anyone interested can write to me off the list.
 >
 > George
 >
 > -Original Message-
 > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 > [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
 > On Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
 > Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 6:28 PM
 > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 > Subject: Re: [AI] Call for names of inaccessible apps/websites
 >
 > Dear rahul, income tax e-filing portal. as many of us have to file
 > return and also will file coming years.
 >
 > - Original Message -
 > From: "Rahul Bajaj" 
 > To: 
 > Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 2:14 PM
 > Subject: [AI] Call for names of inaccessible apps/websites
 >
 >
 >> Hi Everyone,
 >>
 >> Along with some like-minded people, I have started an initiative
 >> aimed at constructively engaging with the developers of inaccessible
 >> apps/websites to make them more accessible for the visually
 >> challenged in particular and the disabled in general. We have plenty
 >> of people as volunteers for this work. The first [and preferred]
 >> strategy is to engage in structured negotiation with them. Failing
 >> that, however, we have the wherewithal and desire to opt for legal
 remedies.
 >>
 >> At this stage, we're collating a list of inaccessible apps/websites.
 >> We will reach out to developers in a phased manner. The focus right
 >> now is more on the private sector. Government websites and apps
 >> require a different approach and hence will be addressed separately
 >> and perhaps later.
 >>
 >> If you can share with me the names of apps/websites that you use on
 a
 >> regular basis that are inaccessible, that would be great. I might
 ask
 >> you for specific inputs in terms of what the accessibility barriers
 >> precisely are at a later stage in the process. Thanks a lot.
 >>
 >> Warmly,
 >> Rahul
 >>
 >> --
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 >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the
 thinking
 >> of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to
 its
 >> veracity;
 >>
 >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the
 >> mails
 >>
 >> sent through this mailing list..
 >>
 >>
 >> Search for old postings at:
 >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
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Re: [AI] Call for names of inaccessible apps/websites

2021-11-06 Thread rahul agarwal
zomatto
MakeMyTrip
Paytm

On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 at 2:14 PM, Rahul Bajaj 
wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> Along with some like-minded people, I have started an initiative aimed
> at constructively engaging with the developers of inaccessible
> apps/websites to make them more accessible for the visually challenged
> in particular and the disabled in general. We have plenty of people as
> volunteers for this work. The first [and preferred] strategy is to
> engage in structured negotiation with them. Failing that, however, we
> have the wherewithal and desire to opt for legal remedies.
>
> At this stage, we're collating a list of inaccessible apps/websites.
> We will reach out to developers in a phased manner. The focus right
> now is more on the private sector. Government websites and apps
> require a different approach and hence will be addressed separately
> and perhaps later.
>
> If you can share with me the names of apps/websites that you use on a
> regular basis that are inaccessible, that would be great. I might ask
> you for specific inputs in terms of what the accessibility barriers
> precisely are at a later stage in the process. Thanks a lot.
>
> Warmly,
> Rahul
>
> --
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>
> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails
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>
>
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Re: [AI] Accessibility, security and authenticity of digital signature for a person with blindness and low vision

2021-11-06 Thread Amar Jain
Signing PDFs is slightly difficult as signature panel of Acrobat is slightly 
inaccessible. But depending on the severity of the document, there are ways to 
deal with it.

Another less expensive method which is legally same as digital signature is to 
use E-sign. Subscription based Aadhar signature in short.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 06-Nov-2021, at 6:57 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
> 
> How can one use it in day to day business and other official purposes?
> like signing and uploading the documents online, if not demanded in
> hard copy by the office.
> 
>> On 11/6/21, Amar Jain  wrote:
>> Legally valid under Information Technology Act, 2000.
>> 
>> Works well for e-transactions with Government. And utilities of some
>> providers are good.
>> 
>> You can’t use it for forms etc because audit and compliance demands hard
>> copy.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 06-Nov-2021, at 9:55 AM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Amar, it would be so kind of you if you describe about digital
>>> signature and its use for persons with visual impairment in official
>>> documents etc. Many other members on the list would be benefited here.
>>> 
 On 11/5/21, Amar Jain  wrote:
 Bini mam call me on 9892622230. Completely legal. Will give you full
 lecture
 on it :p
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On 05-Nov-2021, at 4:39 PM, Binni Kumari 
> wrote:
> 
> Dear All Greetings for the day.
> I hope that everybody is relishing the mood of festivity.
> Is there anybody on the list who is using digital signature? Kindly
> help me understand if it is accessible with screen reader like NVDA?
> Is it safe to use? I mean to ask if it can be misused in any
> condition? How can those pit-faults be avoided? Is it widely accepted?
> I mean has it become authentic?
> Thanks for your anticipated responses.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Let's be in peace but not into pieces
> 
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Re: [AI] Call for names of inaccessible apps/websites

2021-11-06 Thread Amar Jain
Tejaswi help us with audit assessment. Ping me on 9892622230. Will speak to 
Dhananjay as well. Thank you.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 06-Nov-2021, at 5:10 PM, Vemuri Tejaswi  wrote:
> 
> 
> Greetings Rahul,
> 
> Few more apps which are inaccessible in on Android which I'd like to add a re
> 1 hotstar 
> 2 zee five
> 3 you know SBI and you know light SBi
> 
> 
>> On Sat, 6 Nov, 2021, 11:46 Amar Jain,  wrote:
>> Amina-you can help with accessibility audit. Can you ping me on 
>> +91-9892622230? Thank you.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On 06-Nov-2021, at 11:06 AM, vikas shivsharan  
 wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> bhim app
>>> 
>>> 
 On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 4:14 PM Amena Kanchwala  
 wrote:
 Hi Rahul, 
 It is really a good innitiative. Happy to be the part of the same. 
 Few more applications which are inaccessible are:- make my trip, yatra and 
 indigo.
 
 Thanks 
 Amena
 
 
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 1:59 PM George Abraham  
> wrote:
> Happy to collaborate!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
> Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 12:28 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Call for names of inaccessible apps/websites
> 
> Thanks, George sir. I read the transcript of your conversation with 
> Lainey with great interest. I have been in touch with Lainey for some 
> years now, and we will definitely consult her as we move forward. We 
> would love to have you as a consultant as well, if you have the 
> inclination and time to contribute.
> 
> Warmly,
> Rahul
> 
> 
> 
> On 04/11/2021, George Abraham  wrote:
> > Interesting coincidence! We are talking of Structured Negotiation on 
> > the day we had released our Podcast Eyeway Conversations with Lainey 
> > Feingold. She has extensively used Structured Negotiation to address 
> > challenges faced by blind persons in the space of inclusion and 
> > access.  Lainey speaks at length on her success and experiences with 
> > Structured Negotiation on the Podcast. I had shared the link on AI on 
> > Tuesday the 2nd. Anyone interested can write to me off the list.
> >
> > George
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
> > [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
> > On Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 6:28 PM
> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> > Subject: Re: [AI] Call for names of inaccessible apps/websites
> >
> > Dear rahul, income tax e-filing portal. as many of us have to file 
> > return and also will file coming years.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Rahul Bajaj" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 2:14 PM
> > Subject: [AI] Call for names of inaccessible apps/websites
> >
> >
> >> Hi Everyone,
> >>
> >> Along with some like-minded people, I have started an initiative 
> >> aimed at constructively engaging with the developers of inaccessible 
> >> apps/websites to make them more accessible for the visually 
> >> challenged in particular and the disabled in general. We have plenty 
> >> of people as volunteers for this work. The first [and preferred] 
> >> strategy is to engage in structured negotiation with them. Failing 
> >> that, however, we have the wherewithal and desire to opt for legal 
> >> remedies.
> >>
> >> At this stage, we're collating a list of inaccessible apps/websites.
> >> We will reach out to developers in a phased manner. The focus right 
> >> now is more on the private sector. Government websites and apps 
> >> require a different approach and hence will be addressed separately 
> >> and perhaps later.
> >>
> >> If you can share with me the names of apps/websites that you use on a 
> >> regular basis that are inaccessible, that would be great. I might ask 
> >> you for specific inputs in terms of what the accessibility barriers 
> >> precisely are at a later stage in the process. Thanks a lot.
> >>
> >> Warmly,
> >> Rahul
> >>
> >> --
> >> Disclaimer:
> >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking 
> >> of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its 
> >> veracity;
> >>
> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the 
> >> mails
> >>
> >> sent through this mailing list..
> >>
> >>
> >> Search for old postings at:
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Re: [AI] Accessibility, security and authenticity of digital signature for a person with blindness and low vision

2021-11-06 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafay
How can one use it in day to day business and other official purposes?
like signing and uploading the documents online, if not demanded in
hard copy by the office.

On 11/6/21, Amar Jain  wrote:
> Legally valid under Information Technology Act, 2000.
>
> Works well for e-transactions with Government. And utilities of some
> providers are good.
>
> You can’t use it for forms etc because audit and compliance demands hard
> copy.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 06-Nov-2021, at 9:55 AM, Mohib Anwar Rafay 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Amar, it would be so kind of you if you describe about digital
>> signature and its use for persons with visual impairment in official
>> documents etc. Many other members on the list would be benefited here.
>>
>>> On 11/5/21, Amar Jain  wrote:
>>> Bini mam call me on 9892622230. Completely legal. Will give you full
>>> lecture
>>> on it :p
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On 05-Nov-2021, at 4:39 PM, Binni Kumari 
 wrote:

 Dear All Greetings for the day.
 I hope that everybody is relishing the mood of festivity.
 Is there anybody on the list who is using digital signature? Kindly
 help me understand if it is accessible with screen reader like NVDA?
 Is it safe to use? I mean to ask if it can be misused in any
 condition? How can those pit-faults be avoided? Is it widely accepted?
 I mean has it become authentic?
 Thanks for your anticipated responses.




 --
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>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>> Phone: +919 555 555 765
>>
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Re: [AI] Call for names of inaccessible apps/websites

2021-11-06 Thread Vemuri Tejaswi
Greetings Rahul,

Few more apps which are inaccessible in on Android which I'd like to add a
re
1 hotstar
2 zee five
3 you know SBI and you know light SBi

On Sat, 6 Nov, 2021, 11:46 Amar Jain,  wrote:

> Amina-you can help with accessibility audit. Can you ping me on
> +91-9892622230? Thank you.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 06-Nov-2021, at 11:06 AM, vikas shivsharan 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> bhim app
>
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 4:14 PM Amena Kanchwala 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Rahul,
>> It is really a good innitiative. Happy to be the part of the same.
>> Few more applications which are inaccessible are:- make my trip, yatra
>> and indigo.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Amena
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 1:59 PM George Abraham 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Happy to collaborate!
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
>>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
>>> Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 12:28 PM
>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Call for names of inaccessible apps/websites
>>>
>>> Thanks, George sir. I read the transcript of your conversation with
>>> Lainey with great interest. I have been in touch with Lainey for some years
>>> now, and we will definitely consult her as we move forward. We would love
>>> to have you as a consultant as well, if you have the inclination and time
>>> to contribute.
>>>
>>> Warmly,
>>> Rahul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/11/2021, George Abraham  wrote:
>>> > Interesting coincidence! We are talking of Structured Negotiation on
>>> > the day we had released our Podcast Eyeway Conversations with Lainey
>>> > Feingold. She has extensively used Structured Negotiation to address
>>> > challenges faced by blind persons in the space of inclusion and
>>> > access.  Lainey speaks at length on her success and experiences with
>>> > Structured Negotiation on the Podcast. I had shared the link on AI on
>>> > Tuesday the 2nd. Anyone interested can write to me off the list.
>>> >
>>> > George
>>> >
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> > [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
>>> > On Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 6:28 PM
>>> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> > Subject: Re: [AI] Call for names of inaccessible apps/websites
>>> >
>>> > Dear rahul, income tax e-filing portal. as many of us have to file
>>> > return and also will file coming years.
>>> >
>>> > - Original Message -
>>> > From: "Rahul Bajaj" 
>>> > To: 
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 2:14 PM
>>> > Subject: [AI] Call for names of inaccessible apps/websites
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Hi Everyone,
>>> >>
>>> >> Along with some like-minded people, I have started an initiative
>>> >> aimed at constructively engaging with the developers of inaccessible
>>> >> apps/websites to make them more accessible for the visually
>>> >> challenged in particular and the disabled in general. We have plenty
>>> >> of people as volunteers for this work. The first [and preferred]
>>> >> strategy is to engage in structured negotiation with them. Failing
>>> >> that, however, we have the wherewithal and desire to opt for legal
>>> remedies.
>>> >>
>>> >> At this stage, we're collating a list of inaccessible apps/websites.
>>> >> We will reach out to developers in a phased manner. The focus right
>>> >> now is more on the private sector. Government websites and apps
>>> >> require a different approach and hence will be addressed separately
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>>> >>
>>> >> If you can share with me the names of apps/websites that you use on a
>>> >> regular basis that are inaccessible, that would be great. I might ask
>>> >> you for specific inputs in terms of what the accessibility barriers
>>> >> precisely are at a later stage in the process. Thanks a lot.
>>> >>
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Re: [AI] Accessibility, security and authenticity of digital signature for a person with blindness and low vision

2021-11-06 Thread Amar Jain
Legally valid under Information Technology Act, 2000.

Works well for e-transactions with Government. And utilities of some providers 
are good.

You can’t use it for forms etc because audit and compliance demands hard copy.

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> On 06-Nov-2021, at 9:55 AM, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
> 
> Hi Amar, it would be so kind of you if you describe about digital
> signature and its use for persons with visual impairment in official
> documents etc. Many other members on the list would be benefited here.
> 
>> On 11/5/21, Amar Jain  wrote:
>> Bini mam call me on 9892622230. Completely legal. Will give you full lecture
>> on it :p
>> 
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>>> On 05-Nov-2021, at 4:39 PM, Binni Kumari 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear All Greetings for the day.
>>> I hope that everybody is relishing the mood of festivity.
>>> Is there anybody on the list who is using digital signature? Kindly
>>> help me understand if it is accessible with screen reader like NVDA?
>>> Is it safe to use? I mean to ask if it can be misused in any
>>> condition? How can those pit-faults be avoided? Is it widely accepted?
>>> I mean has it become authentic?
>>> Thanks for your anticipated responses.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [AI] Accessibility, security and authenticity of digital signature for a person with blindness and low vision

2021-11-06 Thread anirudh rao
yes I wanted to know about it as well!

On 11/5/21, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
> Hi Amar, it would be so kind of you if you describe about digital
> signature and its use for persons with visual impairment in official
> documents etc. Many other members on the list would be benefited here.
>
> On 11/5/21, Amar Jain  wrote:
>> Bini mam call me on 9892622230. Completely legal. Will give you full
>> lecture
>> on it :p
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 05-Nov-2021, at 4:39 PM, Binni Kumari 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear All Greetings for the day.
>>> I hope that everybody is relishing the mood of festivity.
>>> Is there anybody on the list who is using digital signature? Kindly
>>> help me understand if it is accessible with screen reader like NVDA?
>>> Is it safe to use? I mean to ask if it can be misused in any
>>> condition? How can those pit-faults be avoided? Is it widely accepted?
>>> I mean has it become authentic?
>>> Thanks for your anticipated responses.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
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Re: [AI] Call for names of inaccessible apps/websites

2021-11-06 Thread Amar Jain
Amina-you can help with accessibility audit. Can you ping me on +91-9892622230? 
Thank you.

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> On 06-Nov-2021, at 11:06 AM, vikas shivsharan  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> bhim app
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 4:14 PM Amena Kanchwala  
>> wrote:
>> Hi Rahul, 
>> It is really a good innitiative. Happy to be the part of the same. 
>> Few more applications which are inaccessible are:- make my trip, yatra and 
>> indigo.
>> 
>> Thanks 
>> Amena
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 1:59 PM George Abraham  
>>> wrote:
>>> Happy to collaborate!
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
>>> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
>>> Sent: Friday, November 5, 2021 12:28 PM
>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Call for names of inaccessible apps/websites
>>> 
>>> Thanks, George sir. I read the transcript of your conversation with Lainey 
>>> with great interest. I have been in touch with Lainey for some years now, 
>>> and we will definitely consult her as we move forward. We would love to 
>>> have you as a consultant as well, if you have the inclination and time to 
>>> contribute.
>>> 
>>> Warmly,
>>> Rahul
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 04/11/2021, George Abraham  wrote:
>>> > Interesting coincidence! We are talking of Structured Negotiation on 
>>> > the day we had released our Podcast Eyeway Conversations with Lainey 
>>> > Feingold. She has extensively used Structured Negotiation to address 
>>> > challenges faced by blind persons in the space of inclusion and 
>>> > access.  Lainey speaks at length on her success and experiences with 
>>> > Structured Negotiation on the Podcast. I had shared the link on AI on 
>>> > Tuesday the 2nd. Anyone interested can write to me off the list.
>>> >
>>> > George
>>> >
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
>>> > [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in]
>>> > On Behalf Of BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 6:28 PM
>>> > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> > Subject: Re: [AI] Call for names of inaccessible apps/websites
>>> >
>>> > Dear rahul, income tax e-filing portal. as many of us have to file 
>>> > return and also will file coming years.
>>> >
>>> > - Original Message -
>>> > From: "Rahul Bajaj" 
>>> > To: 
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 2:14 PM
>>> > Subject: [AI] Call for names of inaccessible apps/websites
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Hi Everyone,
>>> >>
>>> >> Along with some like-minded people, I have started an initiative 
>>> >> aimed at constructively engaging with the developers of inaccessible 
>>> >> apps/websites to make them more accessible for the visually 
>>> >> challenged in particular and the disabled in general. We have plenty 
>>> >> of people as volunteers for this work. The first [and preferred] 
>>> >> strategy is to engage in structured negotiation with them. Failing 
>>> >> that, however, we have the wherewithal and desire to opt for legal 
>>> >> remedies.
>>> >>
>>> >> At this stage, we're collating a list of inaccessible apps/websites.
>>> >> We will reach out to developers in a phased manner. The focus right 
>>> >> now is more on the private sector. Government websites and apps 
>>> >> require a different approach and hence will be addressed separately 
>>> >> and perhaps later.
>>> >>
>>> >> If you can share with me the names of apps/websites that you use on a 
>>> >> regular basis that are inaccessible, that would be great. I might ask 
>>> >> you for specific inputs in terms of what the accessibility barriers 
>>> >> precisely are at a later stage in the process. Thanks a lot.
>>> >>
>>> >> Warmly,
>>> >> Rahul
>>> >>
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