Re: [AI] Deaf Awareness Month: What’s your deafness quotient?

[Mangal Hazra]

Thanks for the article

Kind regards

Mangal Hazra

On Fri, 16 Sep, 2022, 9:47 am Sandeep Singh, 
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> Dear Shruti
>
> Thank you for this very well written, informative article.
>
> Warm regards
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> On 9/15/22, shruti pushkarna  wrote:
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> >
> > Here's my latest article on the occasion of Deaf Awareness Month.
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> >
> https://www.mxmindia.com/2022/09/shruti-pushkarna_-deaf-awareness-month-whats-your-deafness-quotient/
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Re: [AI] Deaf Awareness Month: What’s your deafness quotient?

[Sandeep Singh]

Dear Shruti

Thank you for this very well written, informative article.

Warm regards
Sandeep Singh

On 9/15/22, shruti pushkarna  wrote:
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> Here's my latest article on the occasion of Deaf Awareness Month.
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> https://www.mxmindia.com/2022/09/shruti-pushkarna_-deaf-awareness-month-whats-your-deafness-quotient/
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Re: [AI] Smart vision glasses feedback?

['Saravanan K' via AccessIndia]

Dear friend,
Is it available in bangalore.
Let us have a chance of testing it.
May I know the price of it.
Does they provide the usage guidelines on availing the same.

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RE: [AI] Income tax portal testing/simulation

[Ved]

Mobile No.

9013000251.

I never used WebEx. Comfortable with zoom or google meet.

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of Kanchan Pamnani
Sent: 15 September 2022 04:45 PM
To: singhmi...@gmail.com; 'Amar Jain' 
Cc: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Income tax portal testing/simulation

 

Jeegar, Minar, amar, Vasu,  Ved Rahul 

And last call for anyone else wanting to try. 

The call is fixed for 14.00 ie 2pm on Saturday 17th September with Infosys. 

1.   Will webex work

2.   Please send me your mobile nos on or off this list for coordination 
purposes. 

3.   You are testing Form 1 and 4 only. Please ensure that you check other 
links as well and please give me your independent feedback when you finish. 

Best wishes 

Kanchan 

 

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[AI] Mahesh Panikar!

[George Abraham]

Hi,

 

Looking for contact info for Mahesh Panikar formerly of JNU and now lecturer
at LSR. Can mail me off the list on george.abrah...@gmail.com

 

 

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RE: [AI] Smart vision glasses feedback?

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Hi Ajay,

Many thanks, I'll contact the Dr. Shroff Charitable Eye Hospital. 

I have seen list member's feedback but have a unique use case so let us see if 
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Re: [AI] Comprehensive WCAG conformance leads to accessibility for all irrespective of the technology used-any statement to prove this legally?

[Vaibhav Saraf]

Hi Amar,

WCAG is technology agnostic. It states that before anything else on the W3C
doc.

Thanks,
Vaibhav



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> Amar,
> Just to add to Harish Sir,
> the new digital accessibility standard from Bureau of Indian Standard
> has published and same is going to be notify by MSJE.
> This is completely based on WCAG2.1 and EN... standard.
> This also clearly specifies that as technology is evolving standard
> needs to be revised every 3 years.
> I don't know whether this would help legally but this what we heard is
> going to be mandatory from Meity.
> Thanks and regards
> Asif
>
>
> On 9/15/22, Harish Kotian  wrote:
> > Hi Amar
> >
> > Regarding this:
> >
> >  is more legal in nature, which is to say that current Indian
> > standards only restrict testing with NVDA which we can work around.
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> > What is the basis of the above statement that current Indian standards
> > only restrict testing with NVDA
> >
> >
> >  From where did this restriction come from? It is important to
> > understand it to move forward. We need not go by the vendor statement
> > until and unless there is a basis to it and that the testing tool may be
> > one of them and not a particular tool exclusively.
> >
> > I am very doubtful that NVDA is the only screenreader to test with.
> >
> > If they follow the guidelines meticulously, then it will work with any
> > access technology.
> >
> >
> > If they have chosen a wrong an appropriate technology then it is their
> > stupidity. They are a technology company and definitely they need to
> > understand the pro's and con's of the technology. These guidelines are
> > evolving and that these guidelines have been around in some form or the
> > other. If they plead ignorance, then they should pay for their folly.
> >
> >
> > Sometimes screen reader's provide either natively or through ad don
> > functionality more information to the user than what they are expected
> > to. Therefore, use of a particular screen reader cannot be prescribed.
> >
> >
> > It should be strongly argued, that, an application is either compliant
> > or non compliant. If they are not, they should be treated as defaulters
> > and appropriate penalty should be imposed. If the cost of non compliance
> > is a deterrent, then they will not resort to short cut strategy of
> > fixing only those issues that someone complaints rather they will move
> > to detailed testing on entire functionality.
> >
> >
> > Harish
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 14/09/2022 11:42, Amar Jain wrote:
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> We have a case going on for inaccessibility of our tax submission
> >> portal. The vendor is Infosys, and the problem is that only those
> >> issues that we are highlighting are getting resolved and comprehensive
> >> audit is not being done due to commercial reasons.
> >>
> >> Further, there seems to be hard coding for NVDA, as the portal is
> >> reasonably functional with NVDA and not with Jaws. The lack of audit
> >> is also leaving behind persons with other disabilities.
> >>
> >> The argument of the vendor is that it is because of the architecture
> >> of the portal which is why NVDA will be the only screen reader which
> >> should be used for maximum functionality. Second argument is more
> >> legal in nature, which is to say that current Indian standards only
> >> restrict testing with NVDA which we can work around.
> >>
> >> We need to prove to the Court that a comprehensive WCAG conformance is
> >> technology independent and irrespective of the technology that people
> >> use, a comprehensive conformance will ensure widest accessibility
> >> possible.
> >>
> >> Is there any document which backs-up this statement and is there any
> >> precedent where comprehensive audit has been asked by way of a court
> >> order?
> >>
> >> In nutshell, I need to convince the court that a comprehensive audit
> >> is the only way to go, and a comprehensive conformance to WCAG will
> >> not produce different results with different technologies in terms of
> >> accessibility.
> >>
> >> Your valuable inputs will be greatly appreciated before September 22.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Amar Jain
> >>
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Re: [AI] Re: Income tax portal testing/simulation

[Vaibhav Saraf]

I would advise to use Teams rather than Webex.

Logging into the current Webex interface is a pain sometimes, totally
unadvisable for any such call when a Teams option is available.

I would have been happy to be a part but I think it can be some sort of
conflict being an Infosys employee.

Thanks,
Vaibhav



On Thu, 15 Sept 2022 at 07:55, Amar Jain  wrote:

> Not forgot as this was purely a technical call so didn’t think it would be
> worth your time bhaiya.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 15-Sep-2022, at 5:00 PM, 'Mohammed Asif Iqbal (IN)' via AccessIndia <
> accessindia@accessindia.org.in> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Amar,
> > Guess you forgot me to include in this call.  haha.
> > If you recall; I introduce you to income tax efiling team and infosys
> > subsequently because of our existing relationship with Pwc.  We worked
> > on eFiling 1.0 which was largely accessible but now current UI is
> > sadly inaccessible.
> > Thanks and will join the call.
> > Wish team all the best with this initiative.
> > Asif
> >
> >> On 9/15/22, Amar Jain  wrote:
> >> Let's use Teams please.
> >>
> >> I am including Vasu bhaiya to this email threat.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Amar Jain
> >>> On 15/09/2022 16:44, Minar Singh wrote:
> >>> I think MS team or google meet will work for everyone. I haven't used
> >>> webex
> >>>
> >>> On 9/15/22, Kanchan Pamnani  wrote:
>  Jeegar, Minar, amar, Vasu,  Ved Rahul
> 
>  And last call for anyone else wanting to try.
> 
>  The call is fixed for 14.00 ie 2pm on Saturday 17th September with
>  Infosys.
> 
> 
>  1.   Will webex work
> 
>  2.   Please send me your mobile nos on or off this list for
>  coordination
>  purposes.
> 
>  3.   You are testing Form 1 and 4 only. Please ensure that you
>  check
>  other links as well and please give me your independent feedback when
>  you
>  finish.
> 
>  Best wishes
> 
>  Kanchan
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [AI] Re: Income tax portal testing/simulation

[Amar Jain]

Not forgot as this was purely a technical call so didn’t think it would be 
worth your time bhaiya.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 15-Sep-2022, at 5:00 PM, 'Mohammed Asif Iqbal (IN)' via AccessIndia 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Amar,
> Guess you forgot me to include in this call.  haha.
> If you recall; I introduce you to income tax efiling team and infosys
> subsequently because of our existing relationship with Pwc.  We worked
> on eFiling 1.0 which was largely accessible but now current UI is
> sadly inaccessible.
> Thanks and will join the call.
> Wish team all the best with this initiative.
> Asif
> 
>> On 9/15/22, Amar Jain  wrote:
>> Let's use Teams please.
>> 
>> I am including Vasu bhaiya to this email threat.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Amar Jain
>>> On 15/09/2022 16:44, Minar Singh wrote:
>>> I think MS team or google meet will work for everyone. I haven't used
>>> webex
>>> 
>>> On 9/15/22, Kanchan Pamnani  wrote:
 Jeegar, Minar, amar, Vasu,  Ved Rahul
 
 And last call for anyone else wanting to try.
 
 The call is fixed for 14.00 ie 2pm on Saturday 17th September with
 Infosys.
 
 
 1.   Will webex work
 
 2.   Please send me your mobile nos on or off this list for
 coordination
 purposes.
 
 3.   You are testing Form 1 and 4 only. Please ensure that you
 check
 other links as well and please give me your independent feedback when
 you
 finish.
 
 Best wishes
 
 Kanchan
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AI] Re: Income tax portal testing/simulation

['Mohammed Asif Iqbal (IN)' via AccessIndia]

Hi Amar,
Guess you forgot me to include in this call.  haha.
If you recall; I introduce you to income tax efiling team and infosys
subsequently because of our existing relationship with Pwc.  We worked
on eFiling 1.0 which was largely accessible but now current UI is
sadly inaccessible.
Thanks and will join the call.
Wish team all the best with this initiative.
Asif

On 9/15/22, Amar Jain  wrote:
> Let's use Teams please.
>
> I am including Vasu bhaiya to this email threat.
>
> Regards,
> Amar Jain
> On 15/09/2022 16:44, Minar Singh wrote:
>> I think MS team or google meet will work for everyone. I haven't used
>> webex
>>
>> On 9/15/22, Kanchan Pamnani  wrote:
>>> Jeegar, Minar, amar, Vasu,  Ved Rahul
>>>
>>> And last call for anyone else wanting to try.
>>>
>>> The call is fixed for 14.00 ie 2pm on Saturday 17th September with
>>> Infosys.
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.   Will webex work
>>>
>>> 2.   Please send me your mobile nos on or off this list for
>>> coordination
>>> purposes.
>>>
>>> 3.   You are testing Form 1 and 4 only. Please ensure that you
>>> check
>>> other links as well and please give me your independent feedback when
>>> you
>>> finish.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Kanchan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[AI] Re: Income tax portal testing/simulation

[Amar Jain]

Let's use Teams please.

I am including Vasu bhaiya to this email threat.

Regards,
Amar Jain
On 15/09/2022 16:44, Minar Singh wrote:
I think MS team or google meet will work for everyone. I haven't used 
webex


On 9/15/22, Kanchan Pamnani  wrote:

Jeegar, Minar, amar, Vasu,  Ved Rahul

And last call for anyone else wanting to try.

The call is fixed for 14.00 ie 2pm on Saturday 17th September with 
Infosys.



1.   Will webex work

2.   Please send me your mobile nos on or off this list for
coordination
purposes.

3.   You are testing Form 1 and 4 only. Please ensure that you 
check
other links as well and please give me your independent feedback when 
you

finish.

Best wishes

Kanchan






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[AI] Re: Income tax portal testing/simulation

[Minar Singh]

I think MS team or google meet will work for everyone. I haven't used webex

On 9/15/22, Kanchan Pamnani  wrote:
> Jeegar, Minar, amar, Vasu,  Ved Rahul
>
> And last call for anyone else wanting to try.
>
> The call is fixed for 14.00 ie 2pm on Saturday 17th September with Infosys.
>
>
> 1.   Will webex work
>
> 2.   Please send me your mobile nos on or off this list for
> coordination
> purposes.
>
> 3.   You are testing Form 1 and 4 only. Please ensure that you check
> other links as well and please give me your independent feedback when you
> finish.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Kanchan
>
>
>
>


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[AI] Income tax portal testing/simulation

[Kanchan Pamnani]

Jeegar, Minar, amar, Vasu,  Ved Rahul 

And last call for anyone else wanting to try. 

The call is fixed for 14.00 ie 2pm on Saturday 17th September with Infosys. 

1.   Will webex work

2.   Please send me your mobile nos on or off this list for coordination
purposes. 

3.   You are testing Form 1 and 4 only. Please ensure that you check
other links as well and please give me your independent feedback when you
finish. 

Best wishes 

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Re: [AI] any accessible way to by Google drive storage other then credit card?

[Shek Mohammad Ali]

You can get Google play gift card which is worth of 100 GB and redeem in to 
your Google account.
Google play gift cards can be purchased from the various sources such as Amazon 
and Paytm.


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From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  on behalf 
of faiyaz attar 
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2022 3:27:23 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in 
Subject: Re: [AI] any accessible way to by Google drive storage other then 
credit card?

Hi Minar,

Thank you for your suggestion, but my requirement is to get 100 GB for
Single google drive acount
Best,
Faiyaz.

On 9/15/22, Minar Singh  wrote:
> Hi,
> You can create multiple gmail account and  increase google drive
> space. Google offers 15 GB space for every gmail account.
>
> On 9/15/22, faiyaz attar  wrote:
>> Dear Access Indians,
>>
>> Greetings. as the subject line suggests, I would like to know about
>> any accessible methods to get 100 GB Google Drive storage(other then
>> use of credit card). please describe the method as well. Thank you.
>> Best,
>> Faiyaz.
>>
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[AI] Deaf Awareness Month: What’s your deafness quotient?

[shruti pushkarna]

Hi all,

Here's my latest article on the occasion of Deaf Awareness Month.

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Re: [AI] any accessible way to by Google drive storage other then credit card?

[faiyaz attar]

Hi Minar,

Thank you for your suggestion, but my requirement is to get 100 GB for
Single google drive acount
Best,
Faiyaz.

On 9/15/22, Minar Singh  wrote:
> Hi,
> You can create multiple gmail account and  increase google drive
> space. Google offers 15 GB space for every gmail account.
>
> On 9/15/22, faiyaz attar  wrote:
>> Dear Access Indians,
>>
>> Greetings. as the subject line suggests, I would like to know about
>> any accessible methods to get 100 GB Google Drive storage(other then
>> use of credit card). please describe the method as well. Thank you.
>> Best,
>> Faiyaz.
>>
>> --
>> "Every problem is a part of the life, But, solving the problem is an
>> art of the life"
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>> Faiyaz.A.
>>
>> Technical Head Consultant,
>>
>> and, community representative for Organization's connect, (persons
>> with disabilities).
>>
>> From Team Manobal Project,
>>
>> Deepstambh Foundation, Pune Branch.
>> Postal Address:
>>
>> Manobal Project, deepstambh foundation, opposite Pimple gurav Main bus
>> stop, old boys PCMC School Pimple gurav-411061, Pune, Maharashtra
>> India.
>>
>> Google Mapp link,
>>
>> https://maps.app.goo.gl/PVTQq39A6ZEKLWU7
>>
>> Workphone/Whatsapp:+919657724559.
>>
>> (available between 8:00 A.M10:00 P.M).
>>
>> Visit our Website at:
>>
>> www.deepstambhfoundation.org.
>>
>> Vidio clip about Manobal Project:
>>
>> https://youtu.be/2Y-r1TNEUpc
>>
>> Dare to dream:
>> https://youtu.be/9Lz2wgmK7LY
>>
>> Email: deepstambh...@gmail.com
>>
>> YouTube Channel: Deepstambh Foundation
>>
>> Facebook:
>>
>> https://m.facebook.com/DeepManobal/?ref=bookmarks
>>
>> Instagram:
>>
>> https://www.instagram.com/deepstambhmanobal2015?r=nametag
>>
>> Telegram:
>>
>> https://t.me/DeepstambhManobal
>>
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[AI] Political science books from Disha NGO

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The above books are available from Sugamya pustakalaya, as well as are
available for downloading by clicking the link given with each title.



1.   भारतीय राजनीतिक चिंतन – II (Indian Political Thought) Hindi By
U.R. Ghai recorded by Anant alam

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1dIhbxO2UOk65eTDnwWsZIHFpK7Ww3Zsj?usp=sharing

2.  कक्षा 12 वीं के लिए राजनीतिक विज्ञान (हरियाण)(Hindi)By NCERT.
Recorded by Anant Alam

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1K6BwGJYkEg5wY6Ae3wU9am_6NcylLshr?usp=sharing

3.   भारतीय सरकार और राजनीति-बीए के लिए (Hindi)for B.A. Recorded by
Anant Alam

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1A4lH5knd_sAsw214TQVqhR51kLESehLC?usp=sharing



4.   भारतीय राजनीतिक चिंतन by U.R. Ghai (Indian Political Thought)
(Hindi)M.A. Semester 4 (Notes). Recorded by Anant Alam.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qOMY_XgE6k1xMVkNFlRilwkAPDnMSjWb?usp=sharing



5.   भारतीय राजनीति-विचारक – Indian Political Thinkers (Hindi)by OP
Gaaba – Recorded by Anant Alam

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11paNtHZJXYseLGJOcz189IynpgYhtl1H?usp=sharing

6.   भारत की राजव्यवस्था – Bharat ki Rajya Vyavastha by M. Laxmikant
(Hindi). Recorded by Anant Alam

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NES58kMcX4nuttRmvBSguydZcttWxnMd?usp=sharing



7.  Western Political Thinkers (Notes in Hindi) by O.P Gauba; recorded
by Anant Alam

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1IK96iSuLiUM62McQ_k0p1Rpf9O9NLljl?usp=sharing

8.  पाश्चात्य राजनीति विचार (Western Political Thought) (Hindi) Edited
By: Dr. Sukanya Das, recorded by Priyanka Singh:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1UOxgU8DQJadA3OX8cduQFbXMjuiEBezj?usp=sharing



9.   GENDER INNOVATION IN POLITICAL SCIENCE NEW NORMS, NEW KNOWLEDGE
presented by PEC students.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1FnpA5k8Gql7RPYGFvDJ_fyUEANDhBbBH?usp=sharing





10.Political Theory – an introduction edited by Rajeev Bhargava |
Ashok Acharya presented by Anamika Negi.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18l69YMAxdbXD_kcIViJnmkQYl2tFdDBt/view?usp=sharing



11.   Global Politics by Andrew Heywood, recorded by PEC students

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/13LlS3kQvQ7-QR-YHzlZ6_gJ3ThmUrE6_?usp=sharing







Most of the books produced by Disha NGO are available on Sugmaya
Pustakalya, as well.



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Re: [AI] any accessible way to by Google drive storage other then credit card?

[Minar Singh]

Hi,
You can create multiple gmail account and  increase google drive
space. Google offers 15 GB space for every gmail account.

On 9/15/22, faiyaz attar  wrote:
> Dear Access Indians,
>
> Greetings. as the subject line suggests, I would like to know about
> any accessible methods to get 100 GB Google Drive storage(other then
> use of credit card). please describe the method as well. Thank you.
> Best,
> Faiyaz.
>
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[AI] any accessible way to by Google drive storage other then credit card?

[faiyaz attar]

Dear Access Indians,

Greetings. as the subject line suggests, I would like to know about
any accessible methods to get 100 GB Google Drive storage(other then
use of credit card). please describe the method as well. Thank you.
Best,
Faiyaz.

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Technical Head Consultant,

and, community representative for Organization's connect, (persons
with disabilities).

>From Team Manobal Project,

Deepstambh Foundation, Pune Branch.
Postal Address:

Manobal Project, deepstambh foundation, opposite Pimple gurav Main bus
stop, old boys PCMC School Pimple gurav-411061, Pune, Maharashtra
India.

Google Mapp link,

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Workphone/Whatsapp:+919657724559.

(available between 8:00 A.M10:00 P.M).

Visit our Website at:

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Vidio clip about Manobal Project:

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Dare to dream:
https://youtu.be/9Lz2wgmK7LY

Email: deepstambh...@gmail.com

YouTube Channel: Deepstambh Foundation

Facebook:

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Re: [AI] Comprehensive WCAG conformance leads to accessibility for all irrespective of the technology used-any statement to prove this legally?

[Amar Jain]

Few thoughts on everyone's response:

1. GIGW nowhere mentions that NVDA should be used for testing. It is in 
the recommended tools and also from the DEPWD this is the recommendation 
as part of accessible India campaign.


2. BIS standards are not yet notified so will have to wait to see how 
the formulation comes. If the formulation comes as what has been 
proposed, it will complicate the law for government establishments. 
Because for them, only GIGW will be binding for website and apps.


3. CCPD is neither inclined to impose penalty nor it is a body which has 
the judicial capacity to impose any deterrent order.


4. The court finds their argument of using NVDA reasonable because it is 
an open source software and costs nothing.


5. Other than visually impaired, no other disability has gone ahead and 
complained to CCPD about inaccessibility of the portal.


Ameena-we need something more strong to justify the stand we want to 
take. Something similar to what WCAG2.1 blog post contained in 2018 on 
technology nutral, implementable etc etc.


Regards,
Amar Jain
On 15/09/2022 12:47, 'Mohammed Asif Iqbal (IN)' via AccessIndia wrote:

Amar,
Just to add to Harish Sir,
the new digital accessibility standard from Bureau of Indian Standard
has published and same is going to be notify by MSJE.
This is completely based on WCAG2.1 and EN... standard.
This also clearly specifies that as technology is evolving standard
needs to be revised every 3 years.
I don't know whether this would help legally but this what we heard is
going to be mandatory from Meity.
Thanks and regards
Asif


On 9/15/22, Harish Kotian  wrote:

Hi Amar

Regarding this:

 is more legal in nature, which is to say that current Indian
standards only restrict testing with NVDA which we can work around.




What is the basis of the above statement that current Indian standards
only restrict testing with NVDA


 From where did this restriction come from? It is important to
understand it to move forward. We need not go by the vendor statement
until and unless there is a basis to it and that the testing tool may 
be

one of them and not a particular tool exclusively.

I am very doubtful that NVDA is the only screenreader to test with.

If they follow the guidelines meticulously, then it will work with any
access technology.


If they have chosen a wrong an appropriate technology then it is their
stupidity. They are a technology company and definitely they need to
understand the pro's and con's of the technology. These guidelines are
evolving and that these guidelines have been around in some form or 
the

other. If they plead ignorance, then they should pay for their folly.


Sometimes screen reader's provide either natively or through ad don
functionality more information to the user than what they are expected
to. Therefore, use of a particular screen reader cannot be prescribed.


It should be strongly argued, that, an application is either compliant
or non compliant. If they are not, they should be treated as 
defaulters
and appropriate penalty should be imposed. If the cost of non 
compliance

is a deterrent, then they will not resort to short cut strategy of
fixing only those issues that someone complaints rather they will move
to detailed testing on entire functionality.


Harish




On 14/09/2022 11:42, Amar Jain wrote:

Dear all,

We have a case going on for inaccessibility of our tax submission
portal. The vendor is Infosys, and the problem is that only those
issues that we are highlighting are getting resolved and 
comprehensive

audit is not being done due to commercial reasons.

Further, there seems to be hard coding for NVDA, as the portal is
reasonably functional with NVDA and not with Jaws. The lack of audit
is also leaving behind persons with other disabilities.

The argument of the vendor is that it is because of the architecture
of the portal which is why NVDA will be the only screen reader which
should be used for maximum functionality. Second argument is more
legal in nature, which is to say that current Indian standards only
restrict testing with NVDA which we can work around.

We need to prove to the Court that a comprehensive WCAG conformance 
is

technology independent and irrespective of the technology that people
use, a comprehensive conformance will ensure widest accessibility
possible.

Is there any document which backs-up this statement and is there any
precedent where comprehensive audit has been asked by way of a court
order?

In nutshell, I need to convince the court that a comprehensive audit
is the only way to go, and a comprehensive conformance to WCAG will
not produce different results with different technologies in terms of
accessibility.

Your valuable inputs will be greatly appreciated before September 22.

Regards,

Amar Jain



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Re: [AI] Comprehensive WCAG conformance leads to accessibility for all irrespective of the technology used-any statement to prove this legally?

['Mohammed Asif Iqbal (IN)' via AccessIndia]

Amar,
Just to add to Harish Sir,
the new digital accessibility standard from Bureau of Indian Standard
has published and same is going to be notify by MSJE.
This is completely based on WCAG2.1 and EN... standard.
This also clearly specifies that as technology is evolving standard
needs to be revised every 3 years.
I don't know whether this would help legally but this what we heard is
going to be mandatory from Meity.
Thanks and regards
Asif


On 9/15/22, Harish Kotian  wrote:
> Hi Amar
>
> Regarding this:
>
>  is more legal in nature, which is to say that current Indian
> standards only restrict testing with NVDA which we can work around.
>
> 
>
>
> What is the basis of the above statement that current Indian standards
> only restrict testing with NVDA
>
>
>  From where did this restriction come from? It is important to
> understand it to move forward. We need not go by the vendor statement
> until and unless there is a basis to it and that the testing tool may be
> one of them and not a particular tool exclusively.
>
> I am very doubtful that NVDA is the only screenreader to test with.
>
> If they follow the guidelines meticulously, then it will work with any
> access technology.
>
>
> If they have chosen a wrong an appropriate technology then it is their
> stupidity. They are a technology company and definitely they need to
> understand the pro's and con's of the technology. These guidelines are
> evolving and that these guidelines have been around in some form or the
> other. If they plead ignorance, then they should pay for their folly.
>
>
> Sometimes screen reader's provide either natively or through ad don
> functionality more information to the user than what they are expected
> to. Therefore, use of a particular screen reader cannot be prescribed.
>
>
> It should be strongly argued, that, an application is either compliant
> or non compliant. If they are not, they should be treated as defaulters
> and appropriate penalty should be imposed. If the cost of non compliance
> is a deterrent, then they will not resort to short cut strategy of
> fixing only those issues that someone complaints rather they will move
> to detailed testing on entire functionality.
>
>
> Harish
>
>
>
>
> On 14/09/2022 11:42, Amar Jain wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> We have a case going on for inaccessibility of our tax submission
>> portal. The vendor is Infosys, and the problem is that only those
>> issues that we are highlighting are getting resolved and comprehensive
>> audit is not being done due to commercial reasons.
>>
>> Further, there seems to be hard coding for NVDA, as the portal is
>> reasonably functional with NVDA and not with Jaws. The lack of audit
>> is also leaving behind persons with other disabilities.
>>
>> The argument of the vendor is that it is because of the architecture
>> of the portal which is why NVDA will be the only screen reader which
>> should be used for maximum functionality. Second argument is more
>> legal in nature, which is to say that current Indian standards only
>> restrict testing with NVDA which we can work around.
>>
>> We need to prove to the Court that a comprehensive WCAG conformance is
>> technology independent and irrespective of the technology that people
>> use, a comprehensive conformance will ensure widest accessibility
>> possible.
>>
>> Is there any document which backs-up this statement and is there any
>> precedent where comprehensive audit has been asked by way of a court
>> order?
>>
>> In nutshell, I need to convince the court that a comprehensive audit
>> is the only way to go, and a comprehensive conformance to WCAG will
>> not produce different results with different technologies in terms of
>> accessibility.
>>
>> Your valuable inputs will be greatly appreciated before September 22.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Amar Jain
>>
>
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[AI] Through EnAble India, new series of short duration programs for employees with visual impairment working in public sector and Government departments

[Lokesh Naik]

Hello friends,
Greetings from EnAble India.
Hope you all are safe and doing great!
As part of offering more courses online for employees with
disabilities, EnAble India brings a new series of short duration
programs for employees with visual impairment working in public sector
and Government departments.  These programs are designed to enable you
in professional as well as personal space.
To make convenient, 2 hours programs are made available for you. Pick
up the suitable programs and date among the topics given below.
To learn new things and upgrade your skills, get yourself registered
for the program by filling the Registration form
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Note: all the programs will have practical assignments, joining
programs through Desktop/Laptop will be helpful for attending these
practical assignments.
Magic of screen reader, JAWS
•   Features of Screen Reader for improving quality of work on various
scenarios (documentation, data management, Reporting etc…).
•   Smart and well-organized usage of circumstances of screen reader for
making work easier.
•   Creating Voice Profiles, adding voice profiles, and modifying voice 
profiles.
•   Usage of Flexible Web in JAWS.
•   Help at Your Fingertips in JAWS.
•   Reading of Screens and Documents in JAWS.
•   Usage of Dictionary Manager, usage of OCR, Picture Smart, and Speech 
History.
•   In Web Pages, adding and removing Place Markers, etc.
Sunday, 18 September, 10:20 AM to 12:30 PM.
Magic of screen reader, NVDA
•   Features of Screen Reader for improving quality of work on various
scenarios (documentation, data management, Reporting etc…).
•   Smart and well-organized usage of circumstances of screen reader for
making work easier.
•   Voice profiles for different work scenarios.
•   Add magical features using add-ons.
•   Read document in your language.
•   Simplify web site reading.
•   Improve document proof reading with confidence.
•   Usage of Speech dictionary.
Sunday, 18 September, 3:00 PM to 5:00 PM.
Working with Spreadsheets
•   Are you struggling to read and understand the data in Excel?
Come and learn the effective way of understanding data presented in Excel.
Program includes –
•   Read and understand different data structures.
•   Screen reader specific settings while working on spread sheets.
•   Easier navigation and data retrieval.
•   Data entry.
Saturday, 24 September, 10:20 AM to 12:30PM.
Saturday, 24 September, 3:00 PM to 5:00 PM
Generating reports in Spreadsheet
Do you want to learn how to prepare reports in Excel?
Come and learn the effective way of generating report in simple way.
Program focusing on building / enhancing skills on,
•   Different methods to manage data in spreadsheet.
•   Different ways of retrieving data from data base in spreadsheets.
•   Generating reports based on requirement.
•   Screen reader settings and features for Spreadsheet.
Sunday, 25th September, 10:20 AM to 12:30 PM.
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