Re: [AI] groups for visually impaired girls/women

2015-03-04 Thread neerajsaxena12456
Mr. Moderater i sed something of on this i urg you release it only mistake i 
made is to write on subject line moderater.. O
Thanks

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Subject: Re: [AI] groups for visually impaired girls/women
From: SriPriya kbkd1...@gmail.com
Date: 04-03-2015 6.57 pm

lol but your name sounding like a male to me. :]
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Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 3:42 PM
Subject: [AI] groups for visually impaired girls/women


 Dear Madam,
 I am Rama Tripathi I will also intrested join that group.
 Thanks and regards
 Rama Tripathi NTPC Barodra Gujarat India



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Re: [AI] groups for visually impaired girls/women

2015-03-01 Thread neerajsaxena12456
I can not agree with this. Which century we are living in? Lets promote 
openness. 
Thanks

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Subject: Re: [AI] groups for visually impaired girls/women
From: Vamshi. G gvamsh...@gmail.com
Date: 02-03-2015 7.49 am

Hi Neeraj,

It is absolutely necessary for women to have an exclusive group.  We
had a group of that kind in Retina India by name of Women of RI.  I
publicised it on AI.  However not many people joined that time.  Let
us hope it succeeds this time.  My best wishes to the team working on
this.





On 3/1/15, neerajsaxena12...@gmail.com neerajsaxena12...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why you need exvlusive group? Lets be open, problem is our girls are bad at
 expressing. You may not like, but it is true.
 Thanks

 -original message-
 Subject: Re: [AI] groups for visually impaired girls/women
 From: Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org
 Date: 01-03-2015 6.01 pm

 Dear Madhu,

 Great! Thank you! Working on the same just keep a look out for the news!
  Preeti

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 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of madhu
 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 5:54 PM
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 the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] groups for visually impaired girls/women

 Dearr Preeti,
 I can also join.

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
 Of Preeti Monga
 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 3:12 PM
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
 the disabled.'
 Subject: Re: [AI] groups for visually impaired girls/women

 Girls,

 Am thinking of creating one list for only girls/women. How many of you will
 want that? Please can you respond to my personal ID below: then if there
 are
 many, we will start one!
 preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org
 Look forward to your response.

 Warmly

 Preeti

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 -Original Message-
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 Of Aartee Agarwal
 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 12:42 PM
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 Subject: [AI] groups for vissually impaired girls/women

 dear all hope all doing well .i want to know if there is any group or
 mailing list for discussing issues related to visually impaired girls nd
 women waiting for earliest response
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Re: [AI] Moderator: groups for visually impaired girls/women

2015-03-01 Thread neerajsaxena12456
No question of opposing or protesting issue is openness, my experience is that 
blind are extremely reluctent to discuss their problems freely, whether 
personal, professional or social. This results in everyone speaking in 
different voices. Lets face it we can not ask anithing from govt. As one.
Thanks

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Subject: Re: [AI] Moderator:   groups for visually impaired girls/women
From: kailas amolik kailasamo...@rediffmail.com
Date: 02-03-2015 11.48 am

Dear All,

Questionn is not who are good or bad while expressing. Its a matter of choice 
for all of us.

and, important is we are coming with different baggage (unique background) with 
ourselves. Whosoever maybe,interested to start separate group let them do so, 
an who knows tomorrow it may turn the best to protect their interest. 
Experiment should help them to grow. All the best Preeti

Thanks

KailasOn Mon, 02 Mar 2015 10:56:47 +0530 Kotian, H P  wrote

All







Now, please get in touch with Pritie directly and spare the list from these 
mails.







I guess there is sufficient interest and please go ahead with this egroup.







Harish Kotian







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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Preeti Monga



Sent: 02 March 2015 10:33



To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'



Subject: Re: [AI] groups for visually impaired girls/women







Yes, Menal,







Thank you for your support!







There is so much we are all doing. There is so much we can do! We already do 
double the things that most men do, I wonder why they are feeling like this?



Warmly



Preeti







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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
meennal singhvi



Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 10:06 AM



To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.



Subject: Re: [AI] groups for visually impaired girls/women







yes, i fully agree with u preety, we must have a mailing list for our self. 
now, girls we must show the boys that we can do something constructive . hip 
hip hurray girls.



Minal Singhvi







On 3/2/15, Preeti Monga  wrote:



 Sometimes we need to do things only for girls! And just for fun!



 Openness is fine, but still we like to be girls and do things just for



 ourselves! We are always doing things for everyone, then why protest



 if we also want to do things for ourselves! What say girls?







 Warmly



 Preeti







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 -Original Message-



 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On



Behalf



 Of neerajsaxena12...@gmail.com



 Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 9:28 AM



 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues



 concerning the disabled.



 Subject: Re: [AI] groups for visually impaired girls/women







 I can not agree with this. Which century we are living in? Lets



 promote openness.



 Thanks







 -original message-



 Subject: Re: [AI] groups for visually impaired girls/women



 From: Vamshi. G 



 Date: 02-03-2015 7.49 am







 Hi Neeraj,







 It is absolutely necessary for women to have an exclusive group. We



 had a group of that kind in Retina India by name of Women of RI. I



 publicised it on AI. However not many people joined that time. Let



 us hope it succeeds this time. My best wishes to the team working on



 this.























 On 3/1/15, neerajsaxena12...@gmail.com 



wrote:



 Why you need exvlusive group? Lets be open, problem is our girls are



 bad



 at



 expressing. You may not like, but it is true.



 Thanks







 -original message-



 Subject: Re: [AI] groups for visually impaired girls/women



 From: Preeti Monga 



 Date: 01-03-2015 6.01 pm







 Dear Madhu,







 Great! Thank you! Working on the same just keep a look out for the news!



 Preeti







 Preeti Monga - Chief Executive Officer











 Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY!











 Mobile :91 9871701646



 Landline :011 22781446



 E-mail :preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org Website :



 www.silver-linings.org Our Services: 

Re: [AI] groups for visually impaired girls/women

2015-03-01 Thread neerajsaxena12456
Why you need exvlusive group? Lets be open, problem is our girls are bad at 
expressing. You may not like, but it is true.
Thanks

-original message-
Subject: Re: [AI] groups for visually impaired girls/women
From: Preeti Monga preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org
Date: 01-03-2015 6.01 pm

Dear Madhu,

Great! Thank you! Working on the same just keep a look out for the news!
 Preeti

Preeti Monga - Chief Executive Officer


Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY!


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-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of madhu
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 5:54 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] groups for visually impaired girls/women

Dearr Preeti,
I can also join.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Preeti Monga
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 3:12 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] groups for visually impaired girls/women

Girls,

Am thinking of creating one list for only girls/women. How many of you will
want that? Please can you respond to my personal ID below: then if there are
many, we will start one!
preeti.mo...@silver-linings.org
Look forward to your response.

Warmly

Preeti

Preeti Monga - Chief Executive Officer


Inspiring INCLUSION! Fostering DIGNITY!


Mobile : 91 9871701646
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Diversity  Inclusion, Prevention of Sexual Harassment
Connect With Us :



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Aartee Agarwal
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 12:42 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: [AI] groups for vissually impaired girls/women

dear all hope all doing well .i want to know if there is any group or
mailing list for discussing issues related to visually impaired girls nd
women waiting for earliest response
Aartee Agarwal


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Re: [AI] sanitary napkin vs tampon? threading, plucker, or waxing? oops

2015-02-20 Thread neerajsaxena12456
What is not useful? Why people feel uncomfirtable with discussion on some 
subjects? Which century we are living in? Also consider we can not get the 
benefit of visual media we must learn by sharing freely. 
Thanks

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Subject: Re: [AI] sanitary napkin vs tampon? threading, plucker, or waxing? oops
From: nidhi goyal nidhigoyal...@gmail.com
Date: 20-02-2015 3.11 pm

Dear Moderator,
Thank you for the clarification.
As you must have read, all of us women felt the same -
however, i am surprised that objections were raised by other women as well,
but your email only addresses me to bring objections to you. obviously as an
equal member of the list, i would not appreciate if rules and displeasure
was only exclusively reserved for me or expressed towards me. 
blindness and lack of literature on these subjects in an acessible format
in the presence of google, sure if you and the monitoring team and other
members think- i agree.
i will definitely not retract from the other things that i said.
once again, thank  you for the clarification. happy to comply.
Cheers,
Nidhi Goyal
disability and gender rights activist
+919820529792




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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of hp.kot...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 2:36 PM
To: accessindia
Subject: [AI] sanitary napkin vs tampon? threading, plucker, or waxing? oops

Dear Nidhi
1 Well, the boundaries of the list has not been extended.
2 May I point to the list guidelines which states, if any member is
having any objection relating to any post, it should be brought to the
attention of the moderator and not put on the list.
3 The subject line was very clear on the thread and I see no objection
on the discussion on this thread.
4 All the points you have flagged are really questions arrising due to
blindness and lack of literature on these subjects in an accessible
form.
5 I don't agree with your asertion of space invaders in this context,
nor:patriarchal attitude and male hegemony.
6 I don't see any objection if women related topics are brought to the
list which is of course blindness related.I do recall, there was some
discussion on make up etc in the past.

Due to keywords in the mail, this mail did not reach me as it got
filtered out at our servers. Hence, I may not be able to respond
quickly on this thread.

 Harish Kotian

[AI] sanitary napkin vs tampon? threading, plucker, or waxing? oops or
only electric shavers?

nidhi goyal Thu, 19 Feb 2015 21:46:25 -0800

Dear all,

Greetings from Mumbai.
i have  read the very interesting discussions going on on this list, and i
would request someone to provide me with the guidelines of the list again-
it seems we are pushing boundaries each time.

In a very recent eenthusiastic thread active on the list i can only say that
it is shocking how couple of points could be related to blindness or
accessibility:

-what should be done first, trimming or  shaving

-how much time does a shave take

-if someone has a hard growth or a soft one

-how to clean the blade

-getting rid of the pubic hair



the first one or two exchanges were okay or could be directly/indirectly
related to accessibility but seriously the 37 others that followed?

these are only a few out of the many objectionable contents.



As a woman i can and will share my idea that this list suddenly seems like
an electronic space invader. for those who dont know who space invaders
are, let me tell you. they are those men who share a two seater bench with a
woman and take up three quarters of that seat/bench. now why do i say that ?
because the gendered discussion going on this list reflects a very strong
patriarchal attitude and male hegemony. i can see how objections by women
were royally ignored.

it is not about personal is political but about the boundaries of a said
list and where i choose to be. if Access India decides that the boundaries
have changed and they are okay with gendered discussions and personal
matters that concern the blind then just for a minute reflect on this.

Women will absolutely bring up the accessibility of a sanitary napkin vs
tampon. i am sure menstrual issues  are of great concern to blind women. if
toilet habits of men are okay being discussed here so should be that of
women. and of course we will too indulge into enlighting discussions of
whether waxing is more doable than  self threading, and elaborate on how
frequently will we have to do the hair removal, or which method will leave
our skin soft and not let it go dark.



well, i really cant miss out on personal is political. we could bring up sex
positions on this list, because blindness leaves many people apprehensive
about not having seen sex positions earlier and lack of that impacting their
sexual lives. i work on gender, sexual rights, and disability so definitely
this wont make me shy away.



the point is that please tell us what is access India all about and some of
us will be happy to 

[AI] FW: RE: Disabled people are God's mistake, says Goa CM Parsekar

2015-01-23 Thread neerajsaxena12456

Thanks

-original message-
Subject: FW: RE: [AI] Disabled people are God's mistake, says Goa CM Parsekar
From: neerajsaxena12...@gmail.com
Date: 23-01-2015 9.44 pm


Thanks

-original message-
Subject: RE: [AI] Disabled people are God's mistake, says Goa CM Parsekar
From: neerajsaxena12...@gmail.com
Date: 22-01-2015 10.47 am

This is laughable, makes you think what to expect from present day rulers? 
Think how to get stake in decision making, that is main streaming.
Thanks

-original message-
Subject: [AI] Disabled people are God's mistake, says Goa CM Parsekar
From: Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com
Date: 22-01-2015 8.10 am


Disabled people are God's mistake, says Goa CM Parsekar


Goa chief minister Laxmikant Parsekar on Wednesday said some people are born 
with disabilities due to the mistake and negligence committed by God.

There are some brothers and sisters in the society, who are born with certain 
disabilities. God forgets to give them certain things. That is negligence on 
the part of God and for that the child has to suffer for entire life, Parsekar 
said.

Therefore, NGOs like Disability Rights Association of Goa (DRAG) have come 
into existence. The thing which God could not do, they are doing. They are 
rectifying the mistake committed by God. I would say NGOs' work is more than 
that of God, he added.

The chief minister was speaking at the inauguration of 'We Care Film Festival' 
on disability issues organised by DRAG at Margao town around 35 kms from Panaji 
Wednesday morning.

However, after the event, DRAG condemned chief minister's remarks, stating that 
the disabled were born to show the power of God.

CM Parskear, while speaking at the inauguration of 'We Care Film Festival' on 
disability at Chowgule college, Margao has said disabled people are mistake of 
God and NGOs are doing yeoman service by serving the disabled in rectifying 
God's mistake, DRAG chief Avelino D'Sa said in a statement in Panaji.

DRAG strongly objects to this statement and clarified that if God has created 
a person disabled it is to show people the power of God. Disabled people have 
more strength and will power and they are differently-abled, hence they are 
stronger than the normal people, he added.

Parsekar's comments came at a time when his cabinet colleague Ramesh Tawadkar 
had courted a controversy last week when he said that the state would set up 
centres to make LGBT people normal. The minister had retracted his statement 
after widespread criticism.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/disabled-people-are-god-s-mistake-says-goa-cm-parsekar/article1-1309376.aspx

Vikas Kapoor,
Mobile: (+91) 9891098137, 9013354994
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Re: [AI] Disabled people are God's mistake, says Goa CM Parsekar

2015-01-21 Thread neerajsaxena12456
This is laughable, makes you think what to expect from present day rulers? 
Think how to get stake in decision making, that is main streaming.
Thanks

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Subject: [AI] Disabled people are God's mistake, says Goa CM Parsekar
From: Vikas Kapoor dl.vi...@gmail.com
Date: 22-01-2015 8.10 am


Disabled people are God's mistake, says Goa CM Parsekar


Goa chief minister Laxmikant Parsekar on Wednesday said some people are born 
with disabilities due to the mistake and negligence committed by God.

There are some brothers and sisters in the society, who are born with certain 
disabilities. God forgets to give them certain things. That is negligence on 
the part of God and for that the child has to suffer for entire life, Parsekar 
said.

Therefore, NGOs like Disability Rights Association of Goa (DRAG) have come 
into existence. The thing which God could not do, they are doing. They are 
rectifying the mistake committed by God. I would say NGOs' work is more than 
that of God, he added.

The chief minister was speaking at the inauguration of 'We Care Film Festival' 
on disability issues organised by DRAG at Margao town around 35 kms from Panaji 
Wednesday morning.

However, after the event, DRAG condemned chief minister's remarks, stating that 
the disabled were born to show the power of God.

CM Parskear, while speaking at the inauguration of 'We Care Film Festival' on 
disability at Chowgule college, Margao has said disabled people are mistake of 
God and NGOs are doing yeoman service by serving the disabled in rectifying 
God's mistake, DRAG chief Avelino D'Sa said in a statement in Panaji.

DRAG strongly objects to this statement and clarified that if God has created 
a person disabled it is to show people the power of God. Disabled people have 
more strength and will power and they are differently-abled, hence they are 
stronger than the normal people, he added.

Parsekar's comments came at a time when his cabinet colleague Ramesh Tawadkar 
had courted a controversy last week when he said that the state would set up 
centres to make LGBT people normal. The minister had retracted his statement 
after widespread criticism.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/disabled-people-are-god-s-mistake-says-goa-cm-parsekar/article1-1309376.aspx

Vikas Kapoor,
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