Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Khajuraho and konark

2015-08-24 Thread sanjay
what about using  the devices with built-in compass.  I think they are 
availlable in market today.  If a person is facing north, east is to his 
right and west is to his left side.  If he is facing south, it is other way 
round.





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Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Khajuraho and konark



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Subject: Re: [AI] Khajuraho and konark

Hi,
Can mobile apps not assist us in recognizing the direction?
Thanks.

On 8/21/15, Vedprakash vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com wrote:

Unless we see sun light, no clue can be got about the direction.
Although, compass can help, but during regular outings, we do not use 
them.

Therefore the visually impaired cannot tell the direction accurately
unless they have felt the heat of the sun and speculated the direction 
beforehand.

During night, the situation is worse. The visually impaired can feel
the sun but not the moon and the stars. So unless they are aware of
the surroundings beforehand, they cannot guess the direction.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of Ekinath Khedekar
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 6:05 PM
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concerning the disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Khajuraho and konark

Dear Friends,

My friend is doing his PhD on literature which involves imagination by
inborn blind and limitations to such imaginations.

Learning few things from here, I am in the process of acquiring
miniature memorabilia’s of various structures and things around the
world. I have got a collection of old palaces in Netherlands,
cathedrals, Eifel tower, Taj mahal etc.

Basically, no description can complete the view that a sighted person
can see and enjoy. But 3d models along with good description can help
blind person visualise things better I suppose. Therefore, I had
raised a question of teachings to blind students about solar system,
world maps, directions etc.

Sadly, not much is being done on it.

DO the experiment, ask a VI suddenly which direction he or she is facing.
Most of the times, they will struggle.

This is not to make fun of anybody to make them aware where do they
stand in terms of directions, position on the earth and so on.


No offense intended please.

Regards




On 8/21/15, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote:

This is why, in such situations, I would try using the vOICe to
remotely sense what is on the walls. You may be able to sense these
carvings as dark lines. Be warned, these are 2d shapes so you will
need a fair bit of imagination to visualize their 3d equivalents.

Pranav

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Behalf Of vivek doddamani
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 3:02 PM
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concerning the disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Khajuraho and konark

Even in Karnataka manytemples in Belur  halibedu explain the life of
human being from birth till death which are very well carved on
stones of temple walls, Arkilogical servei of India mentains these
temples, a rope is tied nearly one meter away from these wall
carvings, nobody is allowed to touch these walls, we blind people
should mainly depend on the local guides who explains if you give him
more money he will explain very more thoroughly otherwise he just
explains in a simple manner.

On 8/20/15, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:

Haha, that was a typo of epic proportions. Forgive me.

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On Aug 20, 2015, at 12:34 PM, George Abraham geo...@eyeway.org 
wrote:


Did you mean carvings or did you mean cravings? I do hope it is a
typo Rahul!

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On Behalf Of Rahul Bajaj
Sent: 20 August 2015 12:24
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concerning the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Khajuraho and konark

Rajesh Sir,

I totally love you for questions like these. ;) I am told that the
carvings have considerably faded over the years and are barely
discernible with the naked eye. So I am not sure whether it would
even be possible for someone to accurately describe the things that
those cravings depict.

Best,
Rahul


On 19/08/2015, Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud

Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Khajuraho and konark

2015-08-24 Thread Vedprakash
But unless we touch the compass needle, how shall we know as to which way does 
the needle points to. I cannot find any other alternative to it.
In the morning I can feel the sun on my face and can tell that I am facing the 
sun and hence standing towards the east.
But unless I touch the needle of the compass, how can I tell as to which 
direction the needle indicates.

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From: sanjay [mailto:sanjaylpra...@yahoo.co.in] 
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 12:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Khajuraho and konark

what about using  the devices with built-in compass.  I think they are 
availlable in market today.  If a person is facing north, east is to his right 
and west is to his left side.  If he is facing south, it is other way round.




- Original Message -
From: Vedprakash vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com
To: 'Bhavya shah' bhavya.shah...@gmail.com; 'AccessIndia: a list for 
discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled.' 
accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Khajuraho and konark


 Not at all.


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 -Original Message-
 From: Bhavya shah [mailto:bhavya.shah...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2015 1:04 PM
 To: vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing 
 accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.
 accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Khajuraho and konark

 Hi,
 Can mobile apps not assist us in recognizing the direction?
 Thanks.

 On 8/21/15, Vedprakash vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Unless we see sun light, no clue can be got about the direction.
 Although, compass can help, but during regular outings, we do not use 
 them.
 Therefore the visually impaired cannot tell the direction accurately 
 unless they have felt the heat of the sun and speculated the 
 direction beforehand.
 During night, the situation is worse. The visually impaired can feel 
 the sun but not the moon and the stars. So unless they are aware of 
 the surroundings beforehand, they cannot guess the direction.

 Exciting Offers to Grab  Vedprakash Sharma

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
 Behalf Of Ekinath Khedekar
 Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 6:05 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
 concerning the disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Khajuraho and konark

 Dear Friends,

 My friend is doing his PhD on literature which involves imagination 
 by inborn blind and limitations to such imaginations.

 Learning few things from here, I am in the process of acquiring 
 miniature memorabilia’s of various structures and things around the 
 world. I have got a collection of old palaces in Netherlands, 
 cathedrals, Eifel tower, Taj mahal etc.

 Basically, no description can complete the view that a sighted person 
 can see and enjoy. But 3d models along with good description can help 
 blind person visualise things better I suppose. Therefore, I had 
 raised a question of teachings to blind students about solar system, 
 world maps, directions etc.

 Sadly, not much is being done on it.

 DO the experiment, ask a VI suddenly which direction he or she is facing.
 Most of the times, they will struggle.

 This is not to make fun of anybody to make them aware where do they 
 stand in terms of directions, position on the earth and so on.


 No offense intended please.

 Regards




 On 8/21/15, Pranav Lal pranav@gmail.com wrote:
 This is why, in such situations, I would try using the vOICe to 
 remotely sense what is on the walls. You may be able to sense these 
 carvings as dark lines. Be warned, these are 2d shapes so you will 
 need a fair bit of imagination to visualize their 3d equivalents.

 Pranav

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
 Behalf Of vivek doddamani
 Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 3:02 PM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
 concerning the disabled. accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: Re: [AI] Khajuraho and konark

 Even in Karnataka manytemples in Belur  halibedu explain the life 
 of human being from birth till death which are very well carved on 
 stones of temple walls, Arkilogical servei of India mentains these 
 temples, a rope is tied nearly one meter away from these wall 
 carvings, nobody is allowed to touch these walls, we blind people 
 should mainly depend on the local guides who explains if you give 
 him more money he will explain very more thoroughly otherwise he 
 just explains in a simple manner.

 On 8/20/15, Rahul Bajaj rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com wrote:
 Haha, that was a typo of epic proportions. Forgive