Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel easierforvisually-challenged
What's the problem? there are multiple indicators and terminals for sighted folks in most of the stations and other public places. - Original Message - From: "Amiyo Biswas" <amiyo.bis...@gmail.com> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 7:27 AM Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel easierforvisually-challenged Another publicity stunt! should we grope for Braille symbols all over the station? Why the government is trying to prpmote education in Braille? They are concentrating on publicity like this because it costs less, but pays more. With best regards, Amiyo Biswas Cel: 9433464329 - Original Message - From: "avinash shahi" <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> To: "jnuvision" <jnuvis...@yahoogroups.com>; "accessindia" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel easier forvisually-challenged "Along with tactile maps of station describing the location and distance of entrance, platforms, counters, washrooms etc, schedule of trains, showing their arrival and departure time, the authorities have also put up 400 metal signages in Braille along the railings of the staircases leading various platforms" http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/mysuru-becomes-first-blindfriendly-railway-station/article7837144.ece On 10/28/15, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> wrote: Its a good move in the offing! blind people in the city need to follow it up! http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/mysuru-to-be-the-first-to-make-rail-travel-easier-for-visuallychallenged/article7811446.ece Tactile layout maps and platform numbers in Braille will help the visually challenged at the Mysuru station.— Photo: M.A. Sriram The Mysuru railway station is set to become the first visually challenged-friendly station in the country. Rajkumar Lal, Divisional Railway Manager of South Western Railway, Mysuru, said here on Tuesday that navigation maps in Braille would soon be put up at various points on the railway station premises. The tactile layout maps of the station, with distances in paces to utilities such as toilets, platforms, staircases and washrooms, will be displayed. The platform numbers in Braille will be written on the railings of staircases, a railway official said. The menu cards at the canteen and the schedule of trains will be made available in Braille, the official said. A private company sponsoring the project is taking suggestions from representatives of a visually challenged association to implement the facility. The sponsor is considering a proposal to engage non-governmental organisations and volunteers to help the visually challenged, the official said. These facilities for the visually challenged at the railway station, an official said, are aimed at seamlessly integrating with the Braille-embedded signage being made available in the coaches. With non-AC conventional coaches manufactured after 2013 coming with Braille-embedded metal signage on berths, toilets, washroom and doors, the introduction of tactile maps of the railway station’s layout will help make the station accessible to the blind, the official added. While the Braille signage in coaches were announced in the 2013-14 Railway Budget, no railway station has made available tactile maps on the platform, the official added. -- Avinash Shahi Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU -- Avinash Shahi Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscrib
Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel easierforvisually-challenged
Well seeing signs and feeling for signs are very different. Feeling for signs in public spaces could be a case for bad hygiene, it could be dangerous and it will be time consuming. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of sanjay Sent: 05 November 2015 15:15 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel easierforvisually-challenged What's the problem? there are multiple indicators and terminals for sighted folks in most of the stations and other public places. - Original Message - From: "Amiyo Biswas" <amiyo.bis...@gmail.com> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning thedisabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 7:27 AM Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel easierforvisually-challenged > Another publicity stunt! should we grope for Braille symbols all over the > station? Why the government is trying to prpmote education in Braille? > They are concentrating on publicity like this because it costs less, but > pays more. > > With best regards, > Amiyo Biswas > Cel: 9433464329 > - Original Message - > From: "avinash shahi" <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> > To: "jnuvision" <jnuvis...@yahoogroups.com>; "accessindia" > <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 4:29 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel easier > forvisually-challenged > > >> "Along with tactile maps of station describing the location and >> distance of entrance, platforms, counters, washrooms etc, schedule of >> trains, showing their arrival and departure time, the authorities have >> also put up 400 metal signages in Braille along the railings of the >> staircases leading various platforms" >> http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/mysuru-becomes-first-blindfriendly-railway-station/article7837144.ece >> >> >> On 10/28/15, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Its a good move in the offing! blind people in the city need to follow >>> it >>> up! >>> http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/mysuru-to-be-the-first-to-make-rail-travel-easier-for-visuallychallenged/article7811446.ece >>> Tactile layout maps and platform numbers in Braille will help the >>> visually challenged at the Mysuru station.— Photo: M.A. Sriram The >>> Mysuru railway station is set to become the first visually >>> challenged-friendly station in the country. >>> >>> Rajkumar Lal, Divisional Railway Manager of South Western Railway, >>> Mysuru, said here on Tuesday that navigation maps in Braille would >>> soon be put up at various points on the railway station premises. >>> >>> The tactile layout maps of the station, with distances in paces to >>> utilities such as toilets, platforms, staircases and washrooms, will >>> be displayed. The platform numbers in Braille will be written on the >>> railings of staircases, a railway official said. >>> >>> The menu cards at the canteen and the schedule of trains will be made >>> available in Braille, the official said. >>> >>> A private company sponsoring the project is taking suggestions from >>> representatives of a visually challenged association to implement the >>> facility. The sponsor is considering a proposal to engage >>> non-governmental organisations and volunteers to help the visually >>> challenged, the official said. >>> >>> These facilities for the visually challenged at the railway station, >>> an official said, are aimed at seamlessly integrating with the >>> Braille-embedded signage being made available in the coaches. >>> >>> With non-AC conventional coaches manufactured after 2013 coming with >>> Braille-embedded metal signage on berths, toilets, washroom and doors, >>> the introduction of tactile maps of the railway station’s layout will >>> help make the station accessible to the blind, the official added. >>> >>> While the Braille signage in coaches were announced in the 2013-14 >>> Railway Budget, no railway station has made available tactile maps on >>> the platform, the official added. >>> >>> -- >>> Avinash Shahi >>> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU >>> >> >> >> -- >> Avinash Shahi >&g
Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel easierforvisually-challenged
That's exactly most of the art museums maintain to deny access to blind visitors. Don't touch, don't feel and remain dependent on others who see and explain to you. They are your eyes to the world. On 11/5/15, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote: > Well seeing signs and feeling for signs are very different. Feeling for > signs in public spaces could be a case for bad hygiene, it could be > dangerous and it will be time consuming. > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of sanjay > Sent: 05 November 2015 15:15 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel > easierforvisually-challenged > > What's the problem? there are multiple indicators and terminals for sighted > folks in most of the stations and other public places. > - Original Message - > From: "Amiyo Biswas" <amiyo.bis...@gmail.com> > To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning > thedisabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 7:27 AM > Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel > easierforvisually-challenged > > >> Another publicity stunt! should we grope for Braille symbols all over the >> station? Why the government is trying to prpmote education in Braille? >> They are concentrating on publicity like this because it costs less, but >> pays more. >> >> With best regards, >> Amiyo Biswas >> Cel: 9433464329 >> - Original Message - >> From: "avinash shahi" <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> >> To: "jnuvision" <jnuvis...@yahoogroups.com>; "accessindia" >> <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 4:29 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel easier >> forvisually-challenged >> >> >>> "Along with tactile maps of station describing the location and >>> distance of entrance, platforms, counters, washrooms etc, schedule of >>> trains, showing their arrival and departure time, the authorities have >>> also put up 400 metal signages in Braille along the railings of the >>> staircases leading various platforms" >>> http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/mysuru-becomes-first-blindfriendly-railway-station/article7837144.ece >>> >>> >>> On 10/28/15, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Its a good move in the offing! blind people in the city need to follow >>>> it >>>> up! >>>> http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/mysuru-to-be-the-first-to-make-rail-travel-easier-for-visuallychallenged/article7811446.ece >>>> Tactile layout maps and platform numbers in Braille will help the >>>> visually challenged at the Mysuru station.— Photo: M.A. Sriram The >>>> Mysuru railway station is set to become the first visually >>>> challenged-friendly station in the country. >>>> >>>> Rajkumar Lal, Divisional Railway Manager of South Western Railway, >>>> Mysuru, said here on Tuesday that navigation maps in Braille would >>>> soon be put up at various points on the railway station premises. >>>> >>>> The tactile layout maps of the station, with distances in paces to >>>> utilities such as toilets, platforms, staircases and washrooms, will >>>> be displayed. The platform numbers in Braille will be written on the >>>> railings of staircases, a railway official said. >>>> >>>> The menu cards at the canteen and the schedule of trains will be made >>>> available in Braille, the official said. >>>> >>>> A private company sponsoring the project is taking suggestions from >>>> representatives of a visually challenged association to implement the >>>> facility. The sponsor is considering a proposal to engage >>>> non-governmental organisations and volunteers to help the visually >>>> challenged, the official said. >>>> >>>> These facilities for the visually challenged at the railway station, >>>> an official said, are aimed at seamlessly integrating with the >>>> Braille-embedded signage being made available in the coaches. >>>> >>>> With non-AC conventional coaches manufactured after 2013 coming with >>>> Braille-embedded metal signage on berths, toilets, w
Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel easierforvisually-challenged
I am afraid they are not the same. Railway station is a public space while a museum is a closed space. The maintenance quality at the station and a museum are very different. The stations are far more crowded and used than a museum. The museum environment is definitely more controlled than that of the station. Noone is challenging your right to touch and feel. I am only saying that the touch and feel methods being adopted at the Mysuru station is not the best way forward. It has its inherent shortcomings. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 05 November 2015 16:03 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel easierforvisually-challenged That's exactly most of the art museums maintain to deny access to blind visitors. Don't touch, don't feel and remain dependent on others who see and explain to you. They are your eyes to the world. On 11/5/15, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote: > Well seeing signs and feeling for signs are very different. Feeling for > signs in public spaces could be a case for bad hygiene, it could be > dangerous and it will be time consuming. > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of sanjay > Sent: 05 November 2015 15:15 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel > easierforvisually-challenged > > What's the problem? there are multiple indicators and terminals for sighted > folks in most of the stations and other public places. > - Original Message - > From: "Amiyo Biswas" <amiyo.bis...@gmail.com> > To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning > thedisabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 7:27 AM > Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel > easierforvisually-challenged > > >> Another publicity stunt! should we grope for Braille symbols all over the >> station? Why the government is trying to prpmote education in Braille? >> They are concentrating on publicity like this because it costs less, but >> pays more. >> >> With best regards, >> Amiyo Biswas >> Cel: 9433464329 >> - Original Message - >> From: "avinash shahi" <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> >> To: "jnuvision" <jnuvis...@yahoogroups.com>; "accessindia" >> <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 4:29 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel easier >> forvisually-challenged >> >> >>> "Along with tactile maps of station describing the location and >>> distance of entrance, platforms, counters, washrooms etc, schedule of >>> trains, showing their arrival and departure time, the authorities have >>> also put up 400 metal signages in Braille along the railings of the >>> staircases leading various platforms" >>> http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/mysuru-becomes-first-blindfriendly-railway-station/article7837144.ece >>> >>> >>> On 10/28/15, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Its a good move in the offing! blind people in the city need to follow >>>> it >>>> up! >>>> http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/mysuru-to-be-the-first-to-make-rail-travel-easier-for-visuallychallenged/article7811446.ece >>>> Tactile layout maps and platform numbers in Braille will help the >>>> visually challenged at the Mysuru station.— Photo: M.A. Sriram The >>>> Mysuru railway station is set to become the first visually >>>> challenged-friendly station in the country. >>>> >>>> Rajkumar Lal, Divisional Railway Manager of South Western Railway, >>>> Mysuru, said here on Tuesday that navigation maps in Braille would >>>> soon be put up at various points on the railway station premises. >>>> >>>> The tactile layout maps of the station, with distances in paces to >>>> utilities such as toilets, platforms, staircases and washrooms, will >>>> be displayed. The platform numbers in Braille will be written on the >>>> railings of staircases, a railway official said. >>>> >>>> The menu cards at the canteen and the schedule of trains will be made >>>> available in Bra
Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel easierforvisually-challenged
I get your point sir. However I beg to differ that museum is a closed space. National museum in Delhi and the Indian museum in Calcutta are certainly state-owned public spaces. I have maintained earlier also lets advocate for both-audio/Braille methods for better accessibility. There is no best way to go about it. On 11/5/15, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote: > I am afraid they are not the same. Railway station is a public space while a > museum is a closed space. The maintenance quality at the station and a > museum are very different. The stations are far more crowded and used than a > museum. The museum environment is definitely more controlled than that of > the station. Noone is challenging your right to touch and feel. I am only > saying that the touch and feel methods being adopted at the Mysuru station > is not the best way forward. It has its inherent shortcomings. > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of avinash shahi > Sent: 05 November 2015 16:03 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel > easierforvisually-challenged > > That's exactly most of the art museums maintain to deny access to > blind visitors. Don't touch, don't feel and remain dependent on others > who see and explain to you. They are your eyes to the world. > > > > > On 11/5/15, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote: >> Well seeing signs and feeling for signs are very different. Feeling for >> signs in public spaces could be a case for bad hygiene, it could be >> dangerous and it will be time consuming. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf >> Of sanjay >> Sent: 05 November 2015 15:15 >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning >> the disabled. >> Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel >> easierforvisually-challenged >> >> What's the problem? there are multiple indicators and terminals for >> sighted >> folks in most of the stations and other public places. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Amiyo Biswas" <amiyo.bis...@gmail.com> >> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning >> thedisabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 7:27 AM >> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel >> easierforvisually-challenged >> >> >>> Another publicity stunt! should we grope for Braille symbols all over the >>> station? Why the government is trying to prpmote education in Braille? >>> They are concentrating on publicity like this because it costs less, but >>> pays more. >>> >>> With best regards, >>> Amiyo Biswas >>> Cel: 9433464329 >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "avinash shahi" <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> >>> To: "jnuvision" <jnuvis...@yahoogroups.com>; "accessindia" >>> <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 4:29 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel easier >>> forvisually-challenged >>> >>> >>>> "Along with tactile maps of station describing the location and >>>> distance of entrance, platforms, counters, washrooms etc, schedule of >>>> trains, showing their arrival and departure time, the authorities have >>>> also put up 400 metal signages in Braille along the railings of the >>>> staircases leading various platforms" >>>> http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/mysuru-becomes-first-blindfriendly-railway-station/article7837144.ece >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10/28/15, avinash shahi <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Its a good move in the offing! blind people in the city need to follow >>>>> it >>>>> up! >>>>> http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/mysuru-to-be-the-first-to-make-rail-travel-easier-for-visuallychallenged/article7811446.ece >>>>> Tactile layout maps and platform numbers in Braille will help the >>>>> visually challenged at the Mysuru station.— Photo: M.A. Sriram The >>>>> Mysuru railway station is set to become the first visually >>>>> challenged-friendly station in the country.
Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel easierforvisually-challenged
Probably the use of the words closed space was wrong In a museum movement is directed. There is a well defined path that one takes. It will be much easier to locate the tactile aid. A station scenario presents one with an extremely challenging task to find and get to the tactile aids. Tactile aids are good when we are talking of confined spaces. Railway stations, airports, shopping malls etc are better served by trained customer service personnel. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 05 November 2015 16:30 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel easierforvisually-challenged I get your point sir. However I beg to differ that museum is a closed space. National museum in Delhi and the Indian museum in Calcutta are certainly state-owned public spaces. I have maintained earlier also lets advocate for both-audio/Braille methods for better accessibility. There is no best way to go about it. On 11/5/15, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote: > I am afraid they are not the same. Railway station is a public space while a > museum is a closed space. The maintenance quality at the station and a > museum are very different. The stations are far more crowded and used than a > museum. The museum environment is definitely more controlled than that of > the station. Noone is challenging your right to touch and feel. I am only > saying that the touch and feel methods being adopted at the Mysuru station > is not the best way forward. It has its inherent shortcomings. > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of avinash shahi > Sent: 05 November 2015 16:03 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel > easierforvisually-challenged > > That's exactly most of the art museums maintain to deny access to > blind visitors. Don't touch, don't feel and remain dependent on others > who see and explain to you. They are your eyes to the world. > > > > > On 11/5/15, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote: >> Well seeing signs and feeling for signs are very different. Feeling for >> signs in public spaces could be a case for bad hygiene, it could be >> dangerous and it will be time consuming. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf >> Of sanjay >> Sent: 05 November 2015 15:15 >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning >> the disabled. >> Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel >> easierforvisually-challenged >> >> What's the problem? there are multiple indicators and terminals for >> sighted >> folks in most of the stations and other public places. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Amiyo Biswas" <amiyo.bis...@gmail.com> >> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning >> thedisabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 7:27 AM >> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel >> easierforvisually-challenged >> >> >>> Another publicity stunt! should we grope for Braille symbols all over the >>> station? Why the government is trying to prpmote education in Braille? >>> They are concentrating on publicity like this because it costs less, but >>> pays more. >>> >>> With best regards, >>> Amiyo Biswas >>> Cel: 9433464329 >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "avinash shahi" <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> >>> To: "jnuvision" <jnuvis...@yahoogroups.com>; "accessindia" >>> <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 4:29 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel easier >>> forvisually-challenged >>> >>> >>>> "Along with tactile maps of station describing the location and >>>> distance of entrance, platforms, counters, washrooms etc, schedule of >>>> trains, showing their arrival and departure time, the authorities have >>>> also put up 400 metal signages in Braille along the railings of the >>>> staircases leading various platforms" >>>> http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/mysuru-becomes
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I am not sure how many of you will agree with me, to avoid hygiene issue I will use Hand Gloves or any other thing which would protect the direct contact of skin if there is no help available and I really need to know particular information, every initiative has their own short coming which will improve gradually and I don’t see any wrong having Braille signs all around the place infact I will be glad. Warm Regards, Tilak. On 11/5/15, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote: > Probably the use of the words closed space was wrong In a museum movement is > directed. There is a well defined path that one takes. It will be much > easier to locate the tactile aid. A station scenario presents one with an > extremely challenging task to find and get to the tactile aids. Tactile aids > are good when we are talking of confined spaces. > > Railway stations, airports, shopping malls etc are better served by trained > customer service personnel. > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of avinash shahi > Sent: 05 November 2015 16:30 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel > easierforvisually-challenged > > I get your point sir. However I beg to differ that museum is a closed > space. National museum in Delhi and the Indian museum in Calcutta are > certainly state-owned public spaces. I have maintained earlier also > lets advocate for both-audio/Braille methods for better accessibility. > There is no best way to go about it. > > > > On 11/5/15, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote: >> I am afraid they are not the same. Railway station is a public space while >> a >> museum is a closed space. The maintenance quality at the station and a >> museum are very different. The stations are far more crowded and used than >> a >> museum. The museum environment is definitely more controlled than that of >> the station. Noone is challenging your right to touch and feel. I am only >> saying that the touch and feel methods being adopted at the Mysuru station >> is not the best way forward. It has its inherent shortcomings. >> -Original Message- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf >> Of avinash shahi >> Sent: 05 November 2015 16:03 >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning >> the disabled. >> Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel >> easierforvisually-challenged >> >> That's exactly most of the art museums maintain to deny access to >> blind visitors. Don't touch, don't feel and remain dependent on others >> who see and explain to you. They are your eyes to the world. >> >> >> >> >> On 11/5/15, George Abraham <geo...@eyeway.org> wrote: >>> Well seeing signs and feeling for signs are very different. Feeling for >>> signs in public spaces could be a case for bad hygiene, it could be >>> dangerous and it will be time consuming. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>> Behalf >>> Of sanjay >>> Sent: 05 November 2015 15:15 >>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning >>> the disabled. >>> Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel >>> easierforvisually-challenged >>> >>> What's the problem? there are multiple indicators and terminals for >>> sighted >>> folks in most of the stations and other public places. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Amiyo Biswas" <amiyo.bis...@gmail.com> >>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and >>> issuesconcerning >>> thedisabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 7:27 AM >>> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [AI] Mysuru to be the first to make rail travel >>> easierforvisually-challenged >>> >>> >>>> Another publicity stunt! should we grope for Braille symbols all over >>>> the >>>> station? Why the government is trying to prpmote education in Braille? >>>> They are concentrating on publicity like this because it costs less, but >>>> pays more. >>>> >>>> With best regards, >>>> Amiyo Biswas >>>> Cel: 9433464329 >>>> - Original Message - >>
