Re: [AI] ‘No support system for blind in India’ said Jessica Consuli

2015-10-21 Thread Ajay Minocha
"They do get job like that of a waiter", Please tell this lady that
whatever facilities we get, We are proud to have visually impaired
people working in different fields in our country that too in large
numbers. I really doubt that the article has done justice with her
thought process. If it has indeed done that, She is badly ill informed
about India.

Thanks,
Ajay

On 10/21/15, akshun mahajan  wrote:
> I met Ms. Jasika in AICB conference and she discussed the same with me .
> She was enjoying the trip very much and she tole me that most probably
> she would visit india in December as well.
>
>
> On 10/21/15, avinash shahi  wrote:
>> Any reactions? I think she is ill-informed. And why to compare India
>> with Switzerland? don't we have hundreds of switzerland in India in
>> population/region-wise?
>> http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/telangana/no-support-system-for-blind-in-india/article7779142.ece
>> Blind people in India don’t have it easy. Apart from not having much
>> infrastructure to assist their commute in public, their lack of vision
>> is also seen as an impairment to do several other things, with
>> attaining jobs being one among them.
>>
>> However, 33-year-old Jessica Consuli, who runs the Casa Andrina, a
>> centre for visually impaired in Lugano, Switzerland, feels that life
>> can be normal for them provided they have access to infrastructure.
>> From skiing to living their life completely on their own, Ms. Consuli,
>> who was in Hyderabad a week ago for a conference, talks to Yunus Y.
>> Lasania about the contrast in the lives of the visually impaired in
>> India and her home country.
>>
>> How does Casa Andrina as an institution do to help the blind? What is
>> the biggest difference between the visually impaired in Switzerland
>> and here?
>>
>> The institution teaches blind people, and conducts activities for
>> them. What I have seen so far is that there are no opportunities for
>> the blind in India, be it jobs or anything. In fact, they even go
>> skiing back in Switzerland! It’s amazing, because they just depend on
>> the audio which tells them to go left or right.
>>
>> How different is it for such people in Switzerland? Do they receive
>> help from the government?
>>
>> Over there, the government will pay for them, put them in a school. We
>> have teachers in Switzerland who go from institution to institution to
>> find out about what kind of support systems blind children require.
>>
>> Since there is a system for the visually impaired in Switzerland, how
>> does it help them?
>>
>> The most difficult thing for them is to be independent, but they do
>> get jobs like that of a waiter. For example, there is a restaurant
>> where people eat in the dark and blind people work there. We have a
>> blind person who is a politician! And another who is in-charge of a
>> school.
>>
>> What do you think can be done in India to help visually impaired
>> people then? Since there isn’t much infrastructure in the first place,
>> what are the basic amenities that can be provided?
>>
>> Institutions are very important to help those who cannot see, and they
>> need to be independent. Second, I have not really seen many blind
>> people using dogs. In Switzerland, it is common to see them using dogs
>> as guides.
>>
>> --
>> Avinash Shahi
>> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] ‘No support system for blind in India’ said Jessica Consuli

2015-10-21 Thread George Abraham
In India we have blind/visually impaired people who are entrepreneurs, lawyers, 
IT professionals, travel agents, lecturers, translaters, journalists and the 
list goes on. We have waiters too at Dialogue in the Dark.

India however has the challenge of numbers and the lady is right, support 
systems are far too little to meet the huge demand in India. 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Ajay Minocha
Sent: 22 October 2015 00:47
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] ‘No support system for blind in India’ said Jessica Consuli

"They do get job like that of a waiter", Please tell this lady that
whatever facilities we get, We are proud to have visually impaired
people working in different fields in our country that too in large
numbers. I really doubt that the article has done justice with her
thought process. If it has indeed done that, She is badly ill informed
about India.

Thanks,
Ajay

On 10/21/15, akshun mahajan  wrote:
> I met Ms. Jasika in AICB conference and she discussed the same with me .
> She was enjoying the trip very much and she tole me that most probably
> she would visit india in December as well.
>
>
> On 10/21/15, avinash shahi  wrote:
>> Any reactions? I think she is ill-informed. And why to compare India
>> with Switzerland? don't we have hundreds of switzerland in India in
>> population/region-wise?
>> http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/telangana/no-support-system-for-blind-in-india/article7779142.ece
>> Blind people in India don’t have it easy. Apart from not having much
>> infrastructure to assist their commute in public, their lack of vision
>> is also seen as an impairment to do several other things, with
>> attaining jobs being one among them.
>>
>> However, 33-year-old Jessica Consuli, who runs the Casa Andrina, a
>> centre for visually impaired in Lugano, Switzerland, feels that life
>> can be normal for them provided they have access to infrastructure.
>> From skiing to living their life completely on their own, Ms. Consuli,
>> who was in Hyderabad a week ago for a conference, talks to Yunus Y.
>> Lasania about the contrast in the lives of the visually impaired in
>> India and her home country.
>>
>> How does Casa Andrina as an institution do to help the blind? What is
>> the biggest difference between the visually impaired in Switzerland
>> and here?
>>
>> The institution teaches blind people, and conducts activities for
>> them. What I have seen so far is that there are no opportunities for
>> the blind in India, be it jobs or anything. In fact, they even go
>> skiing back in Switzerland! It’s amazing, because they just depend on
>> the audio which tells them to go left or right.
>>
>> How different is it for such people in Switzerland? Do they receive
>> help from the government?
>>
>> Over there, the government will pay for them, put them in a school. We
>> have teachers in Switzerland who go from institution to institution to
>> find out about what kind of support systems blind children require.
>>
>> Since there is a system for the visually impaired in Switzerland, how
>> does it help them?
>>
>> The most difficult thing for them is to be independent, but they do
>> get jobs like that of a waiter. For example, there is a restaurant
>> where people eat in the dark and blind people work there. We have a
>> blind person who is a politician! And another who is in-charge of a
>> school.
>>
>> What do you think can be done in India to help visually impaired
>> people then? Since there isn’t much infrastructure in the first place,
>> what are the basic amenities that can be provided?
>>
>> Institutions are very important to help those who cannot see, and they
>> need to be independent. Second, I have not really seen many blind
>> people using dogs. In Switzerland, it is common to see them using dogs
>> as guides.
>>
>> --
>> Avinash Shahi
>> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] ‘No support system for blind in India’ said Jessica Consuli

2015-10-21 Thread PAULMUDDHA
But! Employment wise India is in a better position when compared to other parts 
of the world, 
Where in the differently abled depend largely on social security schemes for 
their living.

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George Abraham
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 7:31 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] ‘No support system for blind in India’ said Jessica Consuli

In India we have blind/visually impaired people who are entrepreneurs, lawyers, 
IT professionals, travel agents, lecturers, translaters, journalists and the 
list goes on. We have waiters too at Dialogue in the Dark.

India however has the challenge of numbers and the lady is right, support 
systems are far too little to meet the huge demand in India. 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Ajay Minocha
Sent: 22 October 2015 00:47
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] ‘No support system for blind in India’ said Jessica Consuli

"They do get job like that of a waiter", Please tell this lady that
whatever facilities we get, We are proud to have visually impaired
people working in different fields in our country that too in large
numbers. I really doubt that the article has done justice with her
thought process. If it has indeed done that, She is badly ill informed
about India.

Thanks,
Ajay

On 10/21/15, akshun mahajan  wrote:
> I met Ms. Jasika in AICB conference and she discussed the same with me .
> She was enjoying the trip very much and she tole me that most probably
> she would visit india in December as well.
>
>
> On 10/21/15, avinash shahi  wrote:
>> Any reactions? I think she is ill-informed. And why to compare India
>> with Switzerland? don't we have hundreds of switzerland in India in
>> population/region-wise?
>> http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/telangana/no-support-system-for-blind-in-india/article7779142.ece
>> Blind people in India don’t have it easy. Apart from not having much
>> infrastructure to assist their commute in public, their lack of vision
>> is also seen as an impairment to do several other things, with
>> attaining jobs being one among them.
>>
>> However, 33-year-old Jessica Consuli, who runs the Casa Andrina, a
>> centre for visually impaired in Lugano, Switzerland, feels that life
>> can be normal for them provided they have access to infrastructure.
>> From skiing to living their life completely on their own, Ms. Consuli,
>> who was in Hyderabad a week ago for a conference, talks to Yunus Y.
>> Lasania about the contrast in the lives of the visually impaired in
>> India and her home country.
>>
>> How does Casa Andrina as an institution do to help the blind? What is
>> the biggest difference between the visually impaired in Switzerland
>> and here?
>>
>> The institution teaches blind people, and conducts activities for
>> them. What I have seen so far is that there are no opportunities for
>> the blind in India, be it jobs or anything. In fact, they even go
>> skiing back in Switzerland! It’s amazing, because they just depend on
>> the audio which tells them to go left or right.
>>
>> How different is it for such people in Switzerland? Do they receive
>> help from the government?
>>
>> Over there, the government will pay for them, put them in a school. We
>> have teachers in Switzerland who go from institution to institution to
>> find out about what kind of support systems blind children require.
>>
>> Since there is a system for the visually impaired in Switzerland, how
>> does it help them?
>>
>> The most difficult thing for them is to be independent, but they do
>> get jobs like that of a waiter. For example, there is a restaurant
>> where people eat in the dark and blind people work there. We have a
>> blind person who is a politician! And another who is in-charge of a
>> school.
>>
>> What do you think can be done in India to help visually impaired
>> people then? Since there isn’t much infrastructure in the first place,
>> what are the basic amenities that can be provided?
>>
>> Institutions are very important to help those who cannot see, and they
>> need to be independent. Second, I have not really seen many blind
>> people using dogs. In Switzerland, it is common to see them using dogs
>> as guides.
>>
>> --
>> Avinash Shahi
>> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] ‘No support system for blind in India’ said Jessica Consuli

2015-10-21 Thread Tilakprasad Joshi
Dear George Sir,

I certainly agree with your view point even though many Visually
Impaired people are in to different field but Majority of the people
lack Jobs and many of them are not even aware of the Government
schemes however India is far more better than other developing
countries this article doesn't justify what this Lady is saying, She
can’t do the comparison between India and Switzerland because Social
and Demographic structure is completely different in both the Country
Switzerland is a Developed Nationn where as India Still a Developing
Nation but we are making good progress though the progress is slow.

Warm Regards,
Tilak.


On 10/22/15, PAULMUDDHA  wrote:
> But! Employment wise India is in a better position when compared to other
> parts of the world,
> Where in the differently abled depend largely on social security schemes for
> their living.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of George Abraham
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 7:31 AM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] ‘No support system for blind in India’ said Jessica
> Consuli
>
> In India we have blind/visually impaired people who are entrepreneurs,
> lawyers, IT professionals, travel agents, lecturers, translaters,
> journalists and the list goes on. We have waiters too at Dialogue in the
> Dark.
>
> India however has the challenge of numbers and the lady is right, support
> systems are far too little to meet the huge demand in India.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Ajay Minocha
> Sent: 22 October 2015 00:47
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] ‘No support system for blind in India’ said Jessica
> Consuli
>
> "They do get job like that of a waiter", Please tell this lady that
> whatever facilities we get, We are proud to have visually impaired
> people working in different fields in our country that too in large
> numbers. I really doubt that the article has done justice with her
> thought process. If it has indeed done that, She is badly ill informed
> about India.
>
> Thanks,
> Ajay
>
> On 10/21/15, akshun mahajan  wrote:
>> I met Ms. Jasika in AICB conference and she discussed the same with me .
>> She was enjoying the trip very much and she tole me that most probably
>> she would visit india in December as well.
>>
>>
>> On 10/21/15, avinash shahi  wrote:
>>> Any reactions? I think she is ill-informed. And why to compare India
>>> with Switzerland? don't we have hundreds of switzerland in India in
>>> population/region-wise?
>>> http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/telangana/no-support-system-for-blind-in-india/article7779142.ece
>>> Blind people in India don’t have it easy. Apart from not having much
>>> infrastructure to assist their commute in public, their lack of vision
>>> is also seen as an impairment to do several other things, with
>>> attaining jobs being one among them.
>>>
>>> However, 33-year-old Jessica Consuli, who runs the Casa Andrina, a
>>> centre for visually impaired in Lugano, Switzerland, feels that life
>>> can be normal for them provided they have access to infrastructure.
>>> From skiing to living their life completely on their own, Ms. Consuli,
>>> who was in Hyderabad a week ago for a conference, talks to Yunus Y.
>>> Lasania about the contrast in the lives of the visually impaired in
>>> India and her home country.
>>>
>>> How does Casa Andrina as an institution do to help the blind? What is
>>> the biggest difference between the visually impaired in Switzerland
>>> and here?
>>>
>>> The institution teaches blind people, and conducts activities for
>>> them. What I have seen so far is that there are no opportunities for
>>> the blind in India, be it jobs or anything. In fact, they even go
>>> skiing back in Switzerland! It’s amazing, because they just depend on
>>> the audio which tells them to go left or right.
>>>
>>> How different is it for such people in Switzerland? Do they receive
>>> help from the government?
>>>
>>> Over there, the government will pay for them, put them in a school. We
>>> have teachers in Switzerland who go from institution to institution to
>>> find out about what kind of support systems blind children require.
>>>
>>> Since there is a system for the visually impaired in Switzerland, how
>>> does it help them?
>>>
>>> The most difficult thing for them is to be independent, but they do
>>> get jobs like that of a waiter. For example, there is a restaurant
>>> where people eat in the dark and blind people work there. We have a
>>> blind person who is a politician! And another who is in-charge of a
>>> school.
>>>
>>> What do you think can be done in India to help visually impaired
>>> 

Re: [AI] ‘No support system for blind in India’ said Jessica Consuli

2015-10-21 Thread akshun mahajan
I met Ms. Jasika in AICB conference and she discussed the same with me .
She was enjoying the trip very much and she tole me that most probably
she would visit india in December as well.


On 10/21/15, avinash shahi  wrote:
> Any reactions? I think she is ill-informed. And why to compare India
> with Switzerland? don't we have hundreds of switzerland in India in
> population/region-wise?
> http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/telangana/no-support-system-for-blind-in-india/article7779142.ece
> Blind people in India don’t have it easy. Apart from not having much
> infrastructure to assist their commute in public, their lack of vision
> is also seen as an impairment to do several other things, with
> attaining jobs being one among them.
>
> However, 33-year-old Jessica Consuli, who runs the Casa Andrina, a
> centre for visually impaired in Lugano, Switzerland, feels that life
> can be normal for them provided they have access to infrastructure.
> From skiing to living their life completely on their own, Ms. Consuli,
> who was in Hyderabad a week ago for a conference, talks to Yunus Y.
> Lasania about the contrast in the lives of the visually impaired in
> India and her home country.
>
> How does Casa Andrina as an institution do to help the blind? What is
> the biggest difference between the visually impaired in Switzerland
> and here?
>
> The institution teaches blind people, and conducts activities for
> them. What I have seen so far is that there are no opportunities for
> the blind in India, be it jobs or anything. In fact, they even go
> skiing back in Switzerland! It’s amazing, because they just depend on
> the audio which tells them to go left or right.
>
> How different is it for such people in Switzerland? Do they receive
> help from the government?
>
> Over there, the government will pay for them, put them in a school. We
> have teachers in Switzerland who go from institution to institution to
> find out about what kind of support systems blind children require.
>
> Since there is a system for the visually impaired in Switzerland, how
> does it help them?
>
> The most difficult thing for them is to be independent, but they do
> get jobs like that of a waiter. For example, there is a restaurant
> where people eat in the dark and blind people work there. We have a
> blind person who is a politician! And another who is in-charge of a
> school.
>
> What do you think can be done in India to help visually impaired
> people then? Since there isn’t much infrastructure in the first place,
> what are the basic amenities that can be provided?
>
> Institutions are very important to help those who cannot see, and they
> need to be independent. Second, I have not really seen many blind
> people using dogs. In Switzerland, it is common to see them using dogs
> as guides.
>
> --
> Avinash Shahi
> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU
>
>
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[AI] ‘No support system for blind in India’ said Jessica Consuli

2015-10-21 Thread avinash shahi
Any reactions? I think she is ill-informed. And why to compare India
with Switzerland? don't we have hundreds of switzerland in India in
population/region-wise?
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/telangana/no-support-system-for-blind-in-india/article7779142.ece
Blind people in India don’t have it easy. Apart from not having much
infrastructure to assist their commute in public, their lack of vision
is also seen as an impairment to do several other things, with
attaining jobs being one among them.

However, 33-year-old Jessica Consuli, who runs the Casa Andrina, a
centre for visually impaired in Lugano, Switzerland, feels that life
can be normal for them provided they have access to infrastructure.
From skiing to living their life completely on their own, Ms. Consuli,
who was in Hyderabad a week ago for a conference, talks to Yunus Y.
Lasania about the contrast in the lives of the visually impaired in
India and her home country.

How does Casa Andrina as an institution do to help the blind? What is
the biggest difference between the visually impaired in Switzerland
and here?

The institution teaches blind people, and conducts activities for
them. What I have seen so far is that there are no opportunities for
the blind in India, be it jobs or anything. In fact, they even go
skiing back in Switzerland! It’s amazing, because they just depend on
the audio which tells them to go left or right.

How different is it for such people in Switzerland? Do they receive
help from the government?

Over there, the government will pay for them, put them in a school. We
have teachers in Switzerland who go from institution to institution to
find out about what kind of support systems blind children require.

Since there is a system for the visually impaired in Switzerland, how
does it help them?

The most difficult thing for them is to be independent, but they do
get jobs like that of a waiter. For example, there is a restaurant
where people eat in the dark and blind people work there. We have a
blind person who is a politician! And another who is in-charge of a
school.

What do you think can be done in India to help visually impaired
people then? Since there isn’t much infrastructure in the first place,
what are the basic amenities that can be provided?

Institutions are very important to help those who cannot see, and they
need to be independent. Second, I have not really seen many blind
people using dogs. In Switzerland, it is common to see them using dogs
as guides.

-- 
Avinash Shahi
Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU



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