Re: [AI] Office 10

[Pranav Lal]

Rajesh,

Jaws transforms the regular ribbons into a menu driven interface. This is why
they are called virtual ribbons. It is the same process that screen readers
follow with web pages. They render them like documents as opposed to how the
pages actually are.

Pranav
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 12:25 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the
disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

Now I am totally confused boss.
Some say, virtual ribbons.
Some say regular ribbons.
Before I can make out if they are different, some say no ribbons but jaws gives
them in menus.
Again some say stay away from the feature.
Some say short cutts.
Some say regular menus also.

Now, exactly what a totally blind non-tech savy person is supposed to do if she
or he wants to use "Bill baba's" software for writing a document, please?

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Pranav Lal
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 10:03 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

I am not sure. Jaws 17 has it for sure. Stay away from the feature. Use regular
ribbons.
Pranav

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Himanshu Sahu
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:02 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the
disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

Is it in JAWS 16? How to use the feature?

On 3/22/16, Pranav Lal <pranav@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not in ms office but in jaws. Jaws converts the ribbons interface to a 
> menu like interface.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Aravind R
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 2:55 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
> yes sir, even if we don't check virtual ribbens at startup 
> installation, jaws will work well with regular ribbens.
> we have to just unlearn 2003 menu concept and learn 2007 ribben 
> concept fresh thats all.
>
> On 3/21/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
>> Oh, so are there regular and virtual ribbons in MS office?
>> That's a news to me.
>> So, menus are not there in office 7, and if we do not check read 
>> virtual ribbons in jaws start up wizard, then also can we do the 
>> things in word 7 10
>> 13 and so on?
>>
>> Please guide as the ever changing technology leaves me in lurche more 
>> often than not.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
>> Behalf Of Pranav Lal
>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 5:49 AM
>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>> concerning the disabled.'
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>
>> Hi Vikas and all,
>>
>> I avoid using virtual ribbons. For one thing, the regular ribbons are 
>> perfectly navigable. Secondly, ribbons are dynamic and I am not sure 
>> if the virtual ribbons feature handles that situation particularly 
>> well.
>>
>> Pranav
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
>> Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor
>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 8:10 AM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>> concerning the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>
>> A best situation that I've come across relates to drawing tables on 
>> power point presentation. While inserting or creating tables in 2010 
>> PPT is quite easy when the virtual ribbons are turned off, it is very 
>> difficult to do the same when the JAWS virtual ribbon option is 
>> turned on. I have no further explanation as to why does that happen.
>>   - Original Message -
>>   From: Pranav Lal
>>   To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>> concerning the disabled.'
>>   Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:59 AM
>>   Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>
>>
>>   > a particular
>>   option, is a challenge.
>>   Any tips?
>>   PL] What options are you looking for? A little exploration does not 
>> hurt.
>>
>>   Pranav
>>
>>   -Original Message-
>&

Re: [AI] Office 10

[Ajay Minocha]

I can brief it on skype if any of you desires.

On 3/23/16, Syed Mansoor  wrote:
> Respected friends,
> I am Syed Mansoor and I am sharing with you people Microsoft word
> notes which have been prepared by me hope it will be use full to all
> new learners.
>
> Table of Contents
> WORD PROCESSOR1
> Starting MS Word  2
> Editing Text  4
> Inserting Text5
> Formatting text   6
> Formatting Paragraphs 7
> Aligning Text 8
> Creating bulleted and numbered lists  8
> Adding Headers and Footers9
> Inserting Table   10
> Adding Borders and Shading12
> Find and Replace option   13
> Using Spell Check Tool14
> Auto correct  14
> Book Marks15
> MICROSOFT WORD SHORTCUT KEYS  16
>
>
> WORD PROCESSOR
>
> Word Processor is a software package, which is used to create and edit
> documents
> Creating – typing the document into the internal memory and saving by
> writing it on to the disk.
> Editing – Correcting the spelling mistakes, deleting or moving words,
> sentences or paragraphs
> Examples of Word processor
>  Word perfect
>  Word star
>  Microsoft Word
>
> The list of tasks that a word processor allows to perform:
>  Typing a document and saving it
>On to the disk
>  Correct, deleted and insert
>Characters, words, lines and
>Images anywhere in the
>Document
>  Retrieve documents from the disk
>  Move or copy paragraphs or images
>From one place to another
>  Increase / Decrease the left, right, top and bottom margins
>  Change the text font and style
>    Search for a particular word or   phrase
>  Spell check tool
>  Print document in various formats
>  Print a document using a mail merge
>
> Starting MS Word
>  Ctrl + Escape to activate start menu
>  Use down arrow and go to Programs submenu
>   Press enter and again use down
>   Arrow
>  Select MS word and press enter
>
> The Document Window
> The components of the Microsoft word window
> Office Button to active office button press alt+f
> Quick Access Toolbar
> Title bar – Displays the title of the program and the active word
> document. Use Insert + T to read the name of the title which is a JAWS
> command
> To the right corner there is the control menu icon with the following
> Maximize button: To maximize the word screen
> Minimize button: To minimize the word screen
> Restore button  : To restore
> Close button: to close the program
>
> (Use alt + space to activate the control menu)
>
> Menu bar: Positioned below the Title bar. It contains menus like Home
> option, Insert option and so on. To activate that use Alt key and the
> hot key of that option. For eg. It is Alt + H for Home tab an Alt + N
> for Insert tab
> (There is a drop down menu for all these option. The moment you
> activate these option the list will drop down)
>
> Status bar: displays information about the active document. It tells
> the currently working position of the user. This includes the page,
> column and line number where the cursor is positioned. The status bar
> is at the bottom of the window just above the task bar.
>
> Scroll bar: Two types of Scroll bar
> Vertical and Horizontal
> Vertical scroll bar is used to move a document vertically
> Horizontal scroll bar is used to move a document horizontally, page by
> page. Page up and page down to move a page up or down.
>
> Workspace: This is the area where the user can type the text of the document
>
>
> Creating a Document
>  Steps to create a document
>  Select new option from Office Button
>  Select blank document icon
>  Select document radio button
>  Enter on Ok button
>
> Opening Document
> 1.Select open option from Office Button
> 2.Choose the right drive and folder
> 3.Use tab and come to the list view
> 4.Use down arrow and select the document Or type the document name in
> the file name colon edit
> 5.Enter on the ok button to open the document
>
>
> Saving a Document
> 1.To retain a new document for future use, one should save the document
> 2.Steps to save with a new file name
> 3.Select the save as option from the Office Button
> 4.In the file name colon edit give the new name
> 5.Tab and go to ok button and press enter
>
> Save option – This option is usually used to save the latest changes
> of a document, which is already created
>
> Editing Text
> Corrections of mistakes are called editing. This is an essential
> feature of word processing package.
>
> An important thing one has to note is the placing the insertion point
> in the right place where the changes have to be made. Some of the key
> combinations used to move around in a document are as follows
>  Up arrow down arrow, Left arrow and Right arrow keys to move one
> character up, down, left and right respectively.
>  Ctrl + Right arrow to go to the next word
> 

Re: [AI] Office 10

[Syed Mansoor]

Respected friends,
I am Syed Mansoor and I am sharing with you people Microsoft word
notes which have been prepared by me hope it will be use full to all
new learners.

Table of Contents
WORD PROCESSOR  1
Starting MS Word2
Editing Text4
Inserting Text  5
Formatting text 6
Formatting Paragraphs   7
Aligning Text   8
Creating bulleted and numbered lists8
Adding Headers and Footers  9
Inserting Table 10
Adding Borders and Shading  12
Find and Replace option 13
Using Spell Check Tool  14
Auto correct14
Book Marks  15
MICROSOFT WORD SHORTCUT KEYS16


WORD PROCESSOR

Word Processor is a software package, which is used to create and edit documents
Creating – typing the document into the internal memory and saving by
writing it on to the disk.
Editing – Correcting the spelling mistakes, deleting or moving words,
sentences or paragraphs
Examples of Word processor
   Word perfect
   Word star
   Microsoft Word

The list of tasks that a word processor allows to perform:
   Typing a document and saving it
   On to the disk
   Correct, deleted and insert
   Characters, words, lines and
   Images anywhere in the
   Document
   Retrieve documents from the disk
   Move or copy paragraphs or images
   From one place to another
   Increase / Decrease the left, right, top and bottom margins
   Change the text font and style
 Search for a particular word or   phrase
   Spell check tool
   Print document in various formats
   Print a document using a mail merge

Starting MS Word
   Ctrl + Escape to activate start menu
   Use down arrow and go to Programs submenu
Press enter and again use down
  Arrow
   Select MS word and press enter

The Document Window
The components of the Microsoft word window
Office Button to active office button press alt+f
Quick Access Toolbar
Title bar – Displays the title of the program and the active word
document. Use Insert + T to read the name of the title which is a JAWS
command
To the right corner there is the control menu icon with the following
Maximize button: To maximize the word screen
Minimize button: To minimize the word screen
Restore button: To restore
Close button: to close the program

(Use alt + space to activate the control menu)

Menu bar: Positioned below the Title bar. It contains menus like Home
option, Insert option and so on. To activate that use Alt key and the
hot key of that option. For eg. It is Alt + H for Home tab an Alt + N
for Insert tab
(There is a drop down menu for all these option. The moment you
activate these option the list will drop down)

Status bar: displays information about the active document. It tells
the currently working position of the user. This includes the page,
column and line number where the cursor is positioned. The status bar
is at the bottom of the window just above the task bar.

Scroll bar: Two types of Scroll bar
Vertical and Horizontal
Vertical scroll bar is used to move a document vertically
Horizontal scroll bar is used to move a document horizontally, page by
page. Page up and page down to move a page up or down.

Workspace: This is the area where the user can type the text of the document


Creating a Document
   Steps to create a document
   Select new option from Office Button
   Select blank document icon
   Select document radio button
   Enter on Ok button

Opening Document
1.  Select open option from Office Button
2.  Choose the right drive and folder
3.  Use tab and come to the list view
4.  Use down arrow and select the document Or type the document name in
the file name colon edit
5.  Enter on the ok button to open the document


Saving a Document
1.  To retain a new document for future use, one should save the document
2.  Steps to save with a new file name
3.  Select the save as option from the Office Button
4.  In the file name colon edit give the new name
5.  Tab and go to ok button and press enter

Save option – This option is usually used to save the latest changes
of a document, which is already created

Editing Text
Corrections of mistakes are called editing. This is an essential
feature of word processing package.

An important thing one has to note is the placing the insertion point
in the right place where the changes have to be made. Some of the key
combinations used to move around in a document are as follows
   Up arrow down arrow, Left arrow and Right arrow keys to move one
character up, down, left and right respectively.
   Ctrl + Right arrow to go to the next word
   Ctrl + Left arrow to go to the Previous word
   Home to go to the beginning of the line
   End to go to the end of the line
   Ctrl + Home to go the beginning of the document
   Ctrl + End to go to the end of the document

Steps to select a text
   If  the cursor at the beginning 

Re: [AI] Office 10

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

No, that is not enough. there is upper ribbon and lower ribbon as well. 
Further many tabs and arrow keies will confuse you still more.
- Original Message - 
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10



Now I am totally confused boss.
Some say, virtual ribbons.
Some say regular ribbons.
Before I can make out if they are different, some say no ribbons but jaws 
gives them in menus.

Again some say stay away from the feature.
Some say short cutts.
Some say regular menus also.

Now, exactly what a totally blind non-tech savy person is supposed to do 
if she or he wants to use "Bill baba's" software for writing a document, 
please?


-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Pranav Lal

Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 10:03 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled.'

Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

I am not sure. Jaws 17 has it for sure. Stay away from the feature. Use 
regular

ribbons.
Pranav

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of

Himanshu Sahu
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:02 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the

disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

Is it in JAWS 16? How to use the feature?

On 3/22/16, Pranav Lal <pranav@gmail.com> wrote:

Not in ms office but in jaws. Jaws converts the ribbons interface to a
menu like interface.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of Aravind R
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 2:55 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

yes sir, even if we don't check virtual ribbens at startup
installation, jaws will work well with regular ribbens.
we have to just unlearn 2003 menu concept and learn 2007 ribben
concept fresh thats all.

On 3/21/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:

Oh, so are there regular and virtual ribbons in MS office?
That's a news to me.
So, menus are not there in office 7, and if we do not check read
virtual ribbons in jaws start up wizard, then also can we do the
things in word 7 10
13 and so on?

Please guide as the ever changing technology leaves me in lurche more
often than not.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 5:49 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

Hi Vikas and all,

I avoid using virtual ribbons. For one thing, the regular ribbons are
perfectly navigable. Secondly, ribbons are dynamic and I am not sure
if the virtual ribbons feature handles that situation particularly
well.

Pranav

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 8:10 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

A best situation that I've come across relates to drawing tables on
power point presentation. While inserting or creating tables in 2010
PPT is quite easy when the virtual ribbons are turned off, it is very
difficult to do the same when the JAWS virtual ribbon option is
turned on. I have no further explanation as to why does that happen.
  - Original Message -
  From: Pranav Lal
  To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the disabled.'
  Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10


  mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
On Behalf Of
  Asudani, Rajesh
  Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:43 AM
  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the
  disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

  Are short cuts of office xp usable in office 10?

  Moreover, eeven if the ribbons are accessible, where to find a
particular
  option, is a challenge.
  Any tips?

  -Original Message-
  From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
On Behalf Of
  Aravind R
  Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:34 AM
  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the
  disabled.
  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

  minimum jaws13 is required and all ribbens are accessible.

  On 3/17/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
  > JAWS 16.
  >
  > Can shor

Re: [AI] Office 10

[Aravind R]

check this link for clarity sir.
http://doccenter.freedomscientific.com/doccenter2/doccenter/rs25c51746a0cc/virtualribbonmenus/02_virtualribbonmenus.htm

On 3/23/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
> Now I am totally confused boss.
> Some say, virtual ribbons.
> Some say regular ribbons.
> Before I can make out if they are different, some say no ribbons but jaws
> gives them in menus.
> Again some say stay away from the feature.
> Some say short cutts.
> Some say regular menus also.
>
> Now, exactly what a totally blind non-tech savy person is supposed to do if
> she or he wants to use "Bill baba's" software for writing a document,
> please?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Pranav Lal
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 10:03 PM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
> I am not sure. Jaws 17 has it for sure. Stay away from the feature. Use
> regular
> ribbons.
> Pranav
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of
> Himanshu Sahu
> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:02 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the
> disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
> Is it in JAWS 16? How to use the feature?
>
> On 3/22/16, Pranav Lal <pranav@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Not in ms office but in jaws. Jaws converts the ribbons interface to a
>> menu like interface.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf Of Aravind R
>> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 2:55 PM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>
>> yes sir, even if we don't check virtual ribbens at startup
>> installation, jaws will work well with regular ribbens.
>> we have to just unlearn 2003 menu concept and learn 2007 ribben
>> concept fresh thats all.
>>
>> On 3/21/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
>>> Oh, so are there regular and virtual ribbons in MS office?
>>> That's a news to me.
>>> So, menus are not there in office 7, and if we do not check read
>>> virtual ribbons in jaws start up wizard, then also can we do the
>>> things in word 7 10
>>> 13 and so on?
>>>
>>> Please guide as the ever changing technology leaves me in lurche more
>>> often than not.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf Of Pranav Lal
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 5:49 AM
>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning the disabled.'
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>>
>>> Hi Vikas and all,
>>>
>>> I avoid using virtual ribbons. For one thing, the regular ribbons are
>>> perfectly navigable. Secondly, ribbons are dynamic and I am not sure
>>> if the virtual ribbons feature handles that situation particularly
>>> well.
>>>
>>> Pranav
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor
>>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 8:10 AM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>>
>>> A best situation that I've come across relates to drawing tables on
>>> power point presentation. While inserting or creating tables in 2010
>>> PPT is quite easy when the virtual ribbons are turned off, it is very
>>> difficult to do the same when the JAWS virtual ribbon option is
>>> turned on. I have no further explanation as to why does that happen.
>>>   - Original Message -
>>>   From: Pranav Lal
>>>   To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning the disabled.'
>>>   Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:59 AM
>>>   Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>>
>>>
>>>   >> a particular
>>>   option, is a challenge.
>>>   Any tips?
>>>   PL] What options are you looking for? A little exploration does not
>>> hur

Re: [AI] Office 10

[Asudani, Rajesh]

Now I am totally confused boss.
Some say, virtual ribbons.
Some say regular ribbons.
Before I can make out if they are different, some say no ribbons but jaws gives 
them in menus.
Again some say stay away from the feature.
Some say short cutts.
Some say regular menus also.

Now, exactly what a totally blind non-tech savy person is supposed to do if she 
or he wants to use "Bill baba's" software for writing a document, please?

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Pranav Lal
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 10:03 PM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

I am not sure. Jaws 17 has it for sure. Stay away from the feature. Use regular
ribbons.
Pranav

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Himanshu Sahu
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:02 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the
disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

Is it in JAWS 16? How to use the feature?

On 3/22/16, Pranav Lal <pranav@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not in ms office but in jaws. Jaws converts the ribbons interface to a
> menu like interface.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of Aravind R
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 2:55 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
> yes sir, even if we don't check virtual ribbens at startup
> installation, jaws will work well with regular ribbens.
> we have to just unlearn 2003 menu concept and learn 2007 ribben
> concept fresh thats all.
>
> On 3/21/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
>> Oh, so are there regular and virtual ribbons in MS office?
>> That's a news to me.
>> So, menus are not there in office 7, and if we do not check read
>> virtual ribbons in jaws start up wizard, then also can we do the
>> things in word 7 10
>> 13 and so on?
>>
>> Please guide as the ever changing technology leaves me in lurche more
>> often than not.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf Of Pranav Lal
>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 5:49 AM
>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning the disabled.'
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>
>> Hi Vikas and all,
>>
>> I avoid using virtual ribbons. For one thing, the regular ribbons are
>> perfectly navigable. Secondly, ribbons are dynamic and I am not sure
>> if the virtual ribbons feature handles that situation particularly
>> well.
>>
>> Pranav
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor
>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 8:10 AM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>
>> A best situation that I've come across relates to drawing tables on
>> power point presentation. While inserting or creating tables in 2010
>> PPT is quite easy when the virtual ribbons are turned off, it is very
>> difficult to do the same when the JAWS virtual ribbon option is
>> turned on. I have no further explanation as to why does that happen.
>>   - Original Message -
>>   From: Pranav Lal
>>   To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning the disabled.'
>>   Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:59 AM
>>   Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>
>>
>>   > a particular
>>   option, is a challenge.
>>   Any tips?
>>   PL] What options are you looking for? A little exploration does not
>> hurt.
>>
>>   Pranav
>>
>>   -Original Message-
>>   From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in]
>> On Behalf Of
>>   Asudani, Rajesh
>>   Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:43 AM
>>   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning the
>>   disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>   Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>
>>   Are short cuts of office xp usable in office 10?
>>
>>   Moreover, eeven if the ribbons are accessible, where to find a
>> particular
>>   option, is a challenge.
>>   Any tips?
>>

Re: [AI] Office 10

[Pranav Lal]

Rajesh,

There is no easy answer to this. Time for some shameless self-promotion but I am
one of the instructors at http://www.cavitraining.com in the Microsoft word
course. We also teach Excel and PowerPoint. Grab the archives or sign up. 

Otherwise, what are the things you need to do? If you ask specific questions, I
suspect people on this list can help.

Pranav

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 10:41 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the
disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

Agreed, boss, agreed.
Please only tell me how to use office 7 10 13 16 19  effectively, being a
totally blind person, that's all.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Kartik Sawhney
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:43 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

Hi,

If that were the case, there would be no innovation at all. there is never
something inherently wrong with a technology that makes it outdated; it's always
that new features come up that make it outdated.
Having worked at Microsoft for a bit, and having gone through their design
specs, I can tell you that consistency in UI is one of the important
considerations while proposing a new product or UI design.
However, often, changes in functionalities necessitate new designs.
It's a matter of striking that balance. Office 2007 provides a whole lot of new
features compared to the 2003 version, and the ribbon design just makes it
easier visually to work with these options based on several UI tests and studies
conducted by Msft. Also, remember, visually impaired community is not the only
community that tech companies need to look out for. I'm not saying that they
shouldn't carefully consider our needs, however it's not right on our part to
expect that this will or should be the only consideration for them. As long as
they provide sutable accessibility options, I don't see why we should be unhappy
with a company.

Oh, and in Office 2016 (might be available in previous versions of Office too,
I'm just not sure), there is a powerful search option, so you don't even have to
navigate through the menus.

Best,
-Kartik

On 3/20/16, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Mr. Ajay, it is easy to preach philosophy, but coping with that 
> philosophy is not easy for everyone.  Nobody says that we should not 
> make efforts, But when you say an outdated technology, there should be 
> some reason to turn the technology into an out dated one. What was 
> wrong with Office 2003, so that it was redundend? We never mind 
> changes but they should
>
> be for the betterment of the community, and not only for the whim of 
> the developers. The Microsoft Vista is the best example. That version 
> of the operating system totally went flop.  What was wrong with the nokia
phones?
> They could havbe improved those to the higher level.  My main 
> objection is that they never take into consideration the difficulties 
> faced by the VI persons, whose number is not neglijable. And it is 
> only we, who have to keep
>
> adjusting. Thanking you, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ajay Minocha" <ajayminoc...@gmail.com>
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning
>
> the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 1:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Completely agree with Pranav, Ribbens are fully accessible with 
>> either jaws or NVDA for that matter. I think we should focus on 
>> updating our knowledge rather than clinging to outdated stuff. There 
>> are number of online courses by cisco or other institutions which can 
>> enable us to keep ourselves updated with the latest technology. Its 
>> just about putting that extra effort.
>>
>> Note: Just a personal opinion, don't want to criticize anyone in 
>> particular.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ajay
>>
>> On 3/19/16, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello Pranav, thanks for your valuable guidance.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav@gmail.com>
>>> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>>> concerning
>>>
>>> the disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 5:49 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>>
>>>
>>>> Shyam

Re: [AI] Office 10

[Pranav Lal]

I am not sure. Jaws 17 has it for sure. Stay away from the feature. Use regular
ribbons.
Pranav

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Himanshu Sahu
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:02 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the
disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

Is it in JAWS 16? How to use the feature?

On 3/22/16, Pranav Lal <pranav@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not in ms office but in jaws. Jaws converts the ribbons interface to a 
> menu like interface.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Aravind R
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 2:55 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
> yes sir, even if we don't check virtual ribbens at startup 
> installation, jaws will work well with regular ribbens.
> we have to just unlearn 2003 menu concept and learn 2007 ribben 
> concept fresh thats all.
>
> On 3/21/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
>> Oh, so are there regular and virtual ribbons in MS office?
>> That's a news to me.
>> So, menus are not there in office 7, and if we do not check read 
>> virtual ribbons in jaws start up wizard, then also can we do the 
>> things in word 7 10
>> 13 and so on?
>>
>> Please guide as the ever changing technology leaves me in lurche more 
>> often than not.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
>> Behalf Of Pranav Lal
>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 5:49 AM
>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>> concerning the disabled.'
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>
>> Hi Vikas and all,
>>
>> I avoid using virtual ribbons. For one thing, the regular ribbons are 
>> perfectly navigable. Secondly, ribbons are dynamic and I am not sure 
>> if the virtual ribbons feature handles that situation particularly 
>> well.
>>
>> Pranav
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
>> Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor
>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 8:10 AM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>> concerning the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>
>> A best situation that I've come across relates to drawing tables on 
>> power point presentation. While inserting or creating tables in 2010 
>> PPT is quite easy when the virtual ribbons are turned off, it is very 
>> difficult to do the same when the JAWS virtual ribbon option is 
>> turned on. I have no further explanation as to why does that happen.
>>   - Original Message -
>>   From: Pranav Lal
>>   To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>> concerning the disabled.'
>>   Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:59 AM
>>   Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>
>>
>>   > a particular
>>   option, is a challenge.
>>   Any tips?
>>   PL] What options are you looking for? A little exploration does not 
>> hurt.
>>
>>   Pranav
>>
>>   -Original Message-
>>   From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] 
>> On Behalf Of
>>   Asudani, Rajesh
>>   Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:43 AM
>>   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>> concerning the
>>   disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>   Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>
>>   Are short cuts of office xp usable in office 10?
>>
>>   Moreover, eeven if the ribbons are accessible, where to find a 
>> particular
>>   option, is a challenge.
>>   Any tips?
>>
>>   -Original Message-
>>   From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] 
>> On Behalf Of
>>   Aravind R
>>   Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:34 AM
>>   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>> concerning the
>>   disabled.
>>   Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>
>>   minimum jaws13 is required and all ribbens are accessible.
>>
>>   On 3/17/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
>>   > JAWS 16.
>>   >
>>   > Can short cut keys be used?
>>   > Are ribbons navigable?
>>   >
>>   > Act

Re: [AI] Office 10

[Pranav Lal]

No.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of P
L VERMA
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 6:38 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the
disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

will classic shell be of help?
- Original Message -
From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav@gmail.com>
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the
disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 5:41 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10


> Not in ms office but in jaws. Jaws converts the ribbons interface to a 
> menu like interface.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Aravind R
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 2:55 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
> yes sir, even if we don't check virtual ribbens at startup 
> installation, jaws will work well with regular ribbens.
> we have to just unlearn 2003 menu concept and learn 2007 ribben 
> concept fresh thats all.
>
> On 3/21/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
>> Oh, so are there regular and virtual ribbons in MS office?
>> That's a news to me.
>> So, menus are not there in office 7, and if we do not check read 
>> virtual ribbons in jaws start up wizard, then also can we do the 
>> things in word 7 10
>> 13 and so on?
>>
>> Please guide as the ever changing technology leaves me in lurche more 
>> often than not.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
>> Behalf Of Pranav Lal
>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 5:49 AM
>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>> concerning the disabled.'
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>
>> Hi Vikas and all,
>>
>> I avoid using virtual ribbons. For one thing, the regular ribbons are 
>> perfectly navigable. Secondly, ribbons are dynamic and I am not sure 
>> if the virtual ribbons feature handles that situation particularly 
>> well.
>>
>> Pranav
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
>> Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor
>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 8:10 AM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>> concerning the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>
>> A best situation that I've come across relates to drawing tables on 
>> power point presentation. While inserting or creating tables in 2010 
>> PPT is quite easy when the virtual ribbons are turned off, it is very 
>> difficult to do the same when the JAWS virtual ribbon option is 
>> turned on. I have no further explanation as to why does that happen.
>>   - Original Message -
>>   From: Pranav Lal
>>   To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>> concerning the disabled.'
>>   Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:59 AM
>>   Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>
>>
>>   > a particular
>>   option, is a challenge.
>>   Any tips?
>>   PL] What options are you looking for? A little exploration does not 
>> hurt.
>>
>>   Pranav
>>
>>   -Original Message-
>>   From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] 
>> On Behalf Of
>>   Asudani, Rajesh
>>   Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:43 AM
>>   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>> concerning the
>>   disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>   Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>
>>   Are short cuts of office xp usable in office 10?
>>
>>   Moreover, eeven if the ribbons are accessible, where to find a 
>> particular
>>   option, is a challenge.
>>   Any tips?
>>
>>   -Original Message-
>>   From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] 
>> On Behalf Of
>>   Aravind R
>>   Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:34 AM
>>   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>> concerning the
>>   disabled.
>>   Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>
>>   minimum jaws13 is required and all ribbens are accessible.
>>
>>   On 3/17/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
>>   > JAWS 16.
&

Re: [AI] Office 10

[Asudani, Rajesh]

Agreed, boss, agreed.
Please only tell me how to use office 7 10 13 16 19  effectively, being a 
totally blind person, that's all.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Kartik Sawhney
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:43 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

Hi,

If that were the case, there would be no innovation at all. there is
never something inherently wrong with a technology that makes it
outdated; it's always that new features come up that make it outdated.
Having worked at Microsoft for a bit, and having gone through their
design specs, I can tell you that consistency in UI is one of the
important considerations while proposing a new product or UI design.
However, often, changes in functionalities necessitate new designs.
It's a matter of striking that balance. Office 2007 provides a whole
lot of new features compared to the 2003 version, and the ribbon
design just makes it easier visually to work with these options based
on several UI tests and studies conducted by Msft. Also, remember,
visually impaired community is not the only community that tech
companies need to look out for. I'm not saying that they shouldn't
carefully consider our needs, however it's not right on our part to
expect that this will or should be the only consideration for them. As
long as they provide sutable accessibility options, I don't see why we
should be unhappy with a company.

Oh, and in Office 2016 (might be available in previous versions of
Office too, I'm just not sure), there is a powerful search option, so
you don't even have to navigate through the menus.

Best,
-Kartik

On 3/20/16, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Mr. Ajay, it is easy to preach philosophy, but coping with that
> philosophy is not easy for everyone.  Nobody says that we should not make
> efforts, But when you say an outdated technology, there should be some
> reason to turn the technology into an out dated one. What was wrong with
> Office 2003, so that it was redundend? We never mind changes but they should
>
> be for the betterment of the community, and not only for the whim of the
> developers. The Microsoft Vista is the best example. That version of the
> operating system totally went flop.  What was wrong with the nokia phones?
> They could havbe improved those to the higher level.  My main objection is
> that they never take into consideration the difficulties faced by the VI
> persons, whose number is not neglijable. And it is only we, who have to keep
>
> adjusting. Thanking you, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ajay Minocha" <ajayminoc...@gmail.com>
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>
> the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 1:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Completely agree with Pranav, Ribbens are fully accessible with either
>> jaws or NVDA for that matter. I think we should focus on updating our
>> knowledge rather than clinging to outdated stuff. There are number of
>> online courses by cisco or other institutions which can enable us to
>> keep ourselves updated with the latest technology. Its just about
>> putting that extra effort.
>>
>> Note: Just a personal opinion, don't want to criticize anyone in
>> particular.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ajay
>>
>> On 3/19/16, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello Pranav, thanks for your valuable guidance.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav@gmail.com>
>>> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>>
>>> the disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 5:49 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>>
>>>
>>>> Shyam,
>>>>
>>>> Why are you drawing tables? You can specify the number of rows and
>>>> columns
>>>>
>>>> and
>>>> have word create the table for you. If you are using the ribbons, do
>>>> the
>>>> following.
>>>> 1. Navigate to the insert tab.
>>>> 2. Press tab to go to the lower ribbon. This is where you find the
>>>> options
>>>>
>>>> under
>>>> the insert tab.
>>>> 3. Press ctrl+right arrow to navigate to the tables group.
>>>> 4. Activate the option called "table"
>>>> 5. Alternatively, to

Re: [AI] Office 10

[P L VERMA]

will classic shell be of help?
- Original Message - 
From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav@gmail.com>
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 5:41 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10


Not in ms office but in jaws. Jaws converts the ribbons interface to a 
menu like

interface.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of

Aravind R
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 2:55 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the

disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

yes sir, even if we don't check virtual ribbens at startup installation, 
jaws

will work well with regular ribbens.
we have to just unlearn 2003 menu concept and learn 2007 ribben concept 
fresh

thats all.

On 3/21/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:

Oh, so are there regular and virtual ribbons in MS office?
That's a news to me.
So, menus are not there in office 7, and if we do not check read
virtual ribbons in jaws start up wizard, then also can we do the
things in word 7 10
13 and so on?

Please guide as the ever changing technology leaves me in lurche more
often than not.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 5:49 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

Hi Vikas and all,

I avoid using virtual ribbons. For one thing, the regular ribbons are
perfectly navigable. Secondly, ribbons are dynamic and I am not sure
if the virtual ribbons feature handles that situation particularly
well.

Pranav

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 8:10 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

A best situation that I've come across relates to drawing tables on
power point presentation. While inserting or creating tables in 2010
PPT is quite easy when the virtual ribbons are turned off, it is very
difficult to do the same when the JAWS virtual ribbon option is turned
on. I have no further explanation as to why does that happen.
  - Original Message -
  From: Pranav Lal
  To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the disabled.'
  Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10


PL] What options are you looking for? A little exploration does not 
hurt.


  Pranav

  -Original Message-
  From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of
  Asudani, Rajesh
  Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:43 AM
  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the
  disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

  Are short cuts of office xp usable in office 10?

  Moreover, eeven if the ribbons are accessible, where to find a 
particular

  option, is a challenge.
  Any tips?

  -Original Message-
  From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of
  Aravind R
  Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:34 AM
  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
concerning the
  disabled.
  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

  minimum jaws13 is required and all ribbens are accessible.

  On 3/17/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
  > JAWS 16.
  >
  > Can short cut keys be used?
  > Are ribbons navigable?
  >
  > Actually I am using office 7, and find that short cuts are usable and
  > ribbons partially navigable.
  > But a student of mine who has to use office 10 in her computer course
  > is complaining about inaccessibility.
  > She is using lower JAWS, perhaps.
  >
  > -Original Message-
  > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
  > Behalf Of Pranav Lal
  > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:30 AM
  > To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
  > concerning the disabled.'
  > Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
  >
  > What version of jaws will you be using with office 2010?
  >
  > Pranav
  >
  >
  >
  > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
  > accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on:
  > 
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  >
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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Himanshu Sahu]

Is it in JAWS 16? How to use the feature?

On 3/22/16, Pranav Lal <pranav@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not in ms office but in jaws. Jaws converts the ribbons interface to a menu
> like
> interface.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of
> Aravind R
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 2:55 PM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the
> disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
> yes sir, even if we don't check virtual ribbens at startup installation,
> jaws
> will work well with regular ribbens.
> we have to just unlearn 2003 menu concept and learn 2007 ribben concept
> fresh
> thats all.
>
> On 3/21/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
>> Oh, so are there regular and virtual ribbons in MS office?
>> That's a news to me.
>> So, menus are not there in office 7, and if we do not check read
>> virtual ribbons in jaws start up wizard, then also can we do the
>> things in word 7 10
>> 13 and so on?
>>
>> Please guide as the ever changing technology leaves me in lurche more
>> often than not.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf Of Pranav Lal
>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 5:49 AM
>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning the disabled.'
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>
>> Hi Vikas and all,
>>
>> I avoid using virtual ribbons. For one thing, the regular ribbons are
>> perfectly navigable. Secondly, ribbons are dynamic and I am not sure
>> if the virtual ribbons feature handles that situation particularly
>> well.
>>
>> Pranav
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor
>> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 8:10 AM
>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>
>> A best situation that I've come across relates to drawing tables on
>> power point presentation. While inserting or creating tables in 2010
>> PPT is quite easy when the virtual ribbons are turned off, it is very
>> difficult to do the same when the JAWS virtual ribbon option is turned
>> on. I have no further explanation as to why does that happen.
>>   - Original Message -
>>   From: Pranav Lal
>>   To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning the disabled.'
>>   Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:59 AM
>>   Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>
>>
>>   > particular
>>   option, is a challenge.
>>   Any tips?
>>   PL] What options are you looking for? A little exploration does not
>> hurt.
>>
>>   Pranav
>>
>>   -Original Message-
>>   From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf Of
>>   Asudani, Rajesh
>>   Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:43 AM
>>   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning the
>>   disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>   Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>
>>   Are short cuts of office xp usable in office 10?
>>
>>   Moreover, eeven if the ribbons are accessible, where to find a
>> particular
>>   option, is a challenge.
>>   Any tips?
>>
>>   -Original Message-
>>   From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf Of
>>   Aravind R
>>   Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:34 AM
>>   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning the
>>   disabled.
>>   Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>
>>   minimum jaws13 is required and all ribbens are accessible.
>>
>>   On 3/17/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
>>   > JAWS 16.
>>   >
>>   > Can short cut keys be used?
>>   > Are ribbons navigable?
>>   >
>>   > Actually I am using office 7, and find that short cuts are usable and
>>   > ribbons partially navigable.
>>   > But a student of mine who has to use office 10 in her computer course
>>   > is complaining about inaccessibility.
>>   > She is using lower JAWS, perhaps.
>>   >
>>   > -Original Message-
>>   > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessind

Re: [AI] Office 10

[Pranav Lal]

Not in ms office but in jaws. Jaws converts the ribbons interface to a menu like
interface.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Aravind R
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 2:55 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the
disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

yes sir, even if we don't check virtual ribbens at startup installation, jaws
will work well with regular ribbens.
we have to just unlearn 2003 menu concept and learn 2007 ribben concept fresh
thats all.

On 3/21/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
> Oh, so are there regular and virtual ribbons in MS office?
> That's a news to me.
> So, menus are not there in office 7, and if we do not check read 
> virtual ribbons in jaws start up wizard, then also can we do the 
> things in word 7 10
> 13 and so on?
>
> Please guide as the ever changing technology leaves me in lurche more 
> often than not.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Pranav Lal
> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 5:49 AM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
> Hi Vikas and all,
>
> I avoid using virtual ribbons. For one thing, the regular ribbons are 
> perfectly navigable. Secondly, ribbons are dynamic and I am not sure 
> if the virtual ribbons feature handles that situation particularly 
> well.
>
> Pranav
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Vikas Kapoor
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 8:10 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
> A best situation that I've come across relates to drawing tables on 
> power point presentation. While inserting or creating tables in 2010 
> PPT is quite easy when the virtual ribbons are turned off, it is very 
> difficult to do the same when the JAWS virtual ribbon option is turned 
> on. I have no further explanation as to why does that happen.
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Pranav Lal
>   To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled.'
>   Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:59 AM
>   Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
>
>particular
>   option, is a challenge.
>   Any tips?
>   PL] What options are you looking for? A little exploration does not hurt.
>
>   Pranav
>
>   -Original Message-
>   From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of
>   Asudani, Rajesh
>   Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:43 AM
>   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the
>   disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>   Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
>   Are short cuts of office xp usable in office 10?
>
>   Moreover, eeven if the ribbons are accessible, where to find a particular
>   option, is a challenge.
>   Any tips?
>
>   -Original Message-
>   From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of
>   Aravind R
>   Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:34 AM
>   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the
>   disabled.
>   Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
>   minimum jaws13 is required and all ribbens are accessible.
>
>   On 3/17/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
>   > JAWS 16.
>   >
>   > Can short cut keys be used?
>   > Are ribbons navigable?
>   >
>   > Actually I am using office 7, and find that short cuts are usable and
>   > ribbons partially navigable.
>   > But a student of mine who has to use office 10 in her computer course
>   > is complaining about inaccessibility.
>   > She is using lower JAWS, perhaps.
>   >
>   > -Original Message-
>   > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>   > Behalf Of Pranav Lal
>   > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:30 AM
>   > To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>   > concerning the disabled.'
>   > Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>   >
>   > What version of jaws will you be using with office 2010?
>   >
>   > Pranav
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
>   > accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on:
>   > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/list

Re: [AI] Office 10

[Kartik Sawhney]

Hi,

If that were the case, there would be no innovation at all. there is
never something inherently wrong with a technology that makes it
outdated; it's always that new features come up that make it outdated.
Having worked at Microsoft for a bit, and having gone through their
design specs, I can tell you that consistency in UI is one of the
important considerations while proposing a new product or UI design.
However, often, changes in functionalities necessitate new designs.
It's a matter of striking that balance. Office 2007 provides a whole
lot of new features compared to the 2003 version, and the ribbon
design just makes it easier visually to work with these options based
on several UI tests and studies conducted by Msft. Also, remember,
visually impaired community is not the only community that tech
companies need to look out for. I'm not saying that they shouldn't
carefully consider our needs, however it's not right on our part to
expect that this will or should be the only consideration for them. As
long as they provide sutable accessibility options, I don't see why we
should be unhappy with a company.

Oh, and in Office 2016 (might be available in previous versions of
Office too, I'm just not sure), there is a powerful search option, so
you don't even have to navigate through the menus.

Best,
-Kartik

On 3/20/16, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Mr. Ajay, it is easy to preach philosophy, but coping with that
> philosophy is not easy for everyone.  Nobody says that we should not make
> efforts, But when you say an outdated technology, there should be some
> reason to turn the technology into an out dated one. What was wrong with
> Office 2003, so that it was redundend? We never mind changes but they should
>
> be for the betterment of the community, and not only for the whim of the
> developers. The Microsoft Vista is the best example. That version of the
> operating system totally went flop.  What was wrong with the nokia phones?
> They could havbe improved those to the higher level.  My main objection is
> that they never take into consideration the difficulties faced by the VI
> persons, whose number is not neglijable. And it is only we, who have to keep
>
> adjusting. Thanking you, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ajay Minocha" <ajayminoc...@gmail.com>
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>
> the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 1:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Completely agree with Pranav, Ribbens are fully accessible with either
>> jaws or NVDA for that matter. I think we should focus on updating our
>> knowledge rather than clinging to outdated stuff. There are number of
>> online courses by cisco or other institutions which can enable us to
>> keep ourselves updated with the latest technology. Its just about
>> putting that extra effort.
>>
>> Note: Just a personal opinion, don't want to criticize anyone in
>> particular.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ajay
>>
>> On 3/19/16, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello Pranav, thanks for your valuable guidance.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav@gmail.com>
>>> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>>
>>> the disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 5:49 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>>
>>>
>>>> Shyam,
>>>>
>>>> Why are you drawing tables? You can specify the number of rows and
>>>> columns
>>>>
>>>> and
>>>> have word create the table for you. If you are using the ribbons, do
>>>> the
>>>> following.
>>>> 1. Navigate to the insert tab.
>>>> 2. Press tab to go to the lower ribbon. This is where you find the
>>>> options
>>>>
>>>> under
>>>> the insert tab.
>>>> 3. Press ctrl+right arrow to navigate to the tables group.
>>>> 4. Activate the option called "table"
>>>> 5. Alternatively, to do steps 1 through 3 faster,  press alt+n for
>>>> insert
>>>>
>>>> and
>>>> then press the letter t for table.
>>>> 6. Arrow up to the option called "Insert Table".
>>>> 7. Press enter to activate it.
>>>> 8. Follow the oprompts.
>>>>
>>>> To insert and or delete rows and or columns, you can activate t

Re: [AI] Office 10

[Ajay Minocha]

Rajesh sir,

They are perfectly usable with screen readers. I am open to explain it
to you on a skype call if you desire.

HTH,
Ajay

On 3/21/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
> Oh, so are there regular and virtual ribbons in MS office?
> That's a news to me.
> So, menus are not there in office 7, and if we do not check read virtual
> ribbons in jaws start up wizard, then also can we do the things in word 7 10
> 13 and so on?
>
> Please guide as the ever changing technology leaves me in lurche more often
> than not.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Pranav Lal
> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 5:49 AM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
> Hi Vikas and all,
>
> I avoid using virtual ribbons. For one thing, the regular ribbons are
> perfectly
> navigable. Secondly, ribbons are dynamic and I am not sure if the virtual
> ribbons feature handles that situation particularly well.
>
> Pranav
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of
> Vikas Kapoor
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 8:10 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the
> disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
> A best situation that I've come across relates to drawing tables on power
> point
> presentation. While inserting or creating tables in 2010 PPT is quite easy
> when
> the virtual ribbons are turned off, it is very difficult to do the same when
> the
> JAWS virtual ribbon option is turned on. I have no further explanation as to
> why
> does that happen.
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Pranav Lal
>   To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning
> the disabled.'
>   Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:59 AM
>   Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
>
>particular
>   option, is a challenge.
>   Any tips?
>   PL] What options are you looking for? A little exploration does not hurt.
>
>   Pranav
>
>   -Original Message-
>   From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of
>   Asudani, Rajesh
>   Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:43 AM
>   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the
>   disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>   Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
>   Are short cuts of office xp usable in office 10?
>
>   Moreover, eeven if the ribbons are accessible, where to find a particular
>   option, is a challenge.
>   Any tips?
>
>   -Original Message-
>   From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of
>   Aravind R
>   Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:34 AM
>   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the
>   disabled.
>   Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
>   minimum jaws13 is required and all ribbens are accessible.
>
>   On 3/17/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
>   > JAWS 16.
>   >
>   > Can short cut keys be used?
>   > Are ribbons navigable?
>   >
>   > Actually I am using office 7, and find that short cuts are usable and
>   > ribbons partially navigable.
>   > But a student of mine who has to use office 10 in her computer course
>   > is complaining about inaccessibility.
>   > She is using lower JAWS, perhaps.
>   >
>   > -Original Message-
>   > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>   > Behalf Of Pranav Lal
>   > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:30 AM
>   > To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>   > concerning the disabled.'
>   > Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>   >
>   > What version of jaws will you be using with office 2010?
>   >
>   > Pranav
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
>   > accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on:
>   > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_acc
>   > essindia.org.in
>   >
>   >
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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Aravind R]

yes sir, even if we don't check virtual ribbens at startup
installation, jaws will work well with regular ribbens.
we have to just unlearn 2003 menu concept and learn 2007 ribben
concept fresh thats all.

On 3/21/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
> Oh, so are there regular and virtual ribbons in MS office?
> That's a news to me.
> So, menus are not there in office 7, and if we do not check read virtual
> ribbons in jaws start up wizard, then also can we do the things in word 7 10
> 13 and so on?
>
> Please guide as the ever changing technology leaves me in lurche more often
> than not.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Pranav Lal
> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 5:49 AM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
> Hi Vikas and all,
>
> I avoid using virtual ribbons. For one thing, the regular ribbons are
> perfectly
> navigable. Secondly, ribbons are dynamic and I am not sure if the virtual
> ribbons feature handles that situation particularly well.
>
> Pranav
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of
> Vikas Kapoor
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 8:10 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the
> disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
> A best situation that I've come across relates to drawing tables on power
> point
> presentation. While inserting or creating tables in 2010 PPT is quite easy
> when
> the virtual ribbons are turned off, it is very difficult to do the same when
> the
> JAWS virtual ribbon option is turned on. I have no further explanation as to
> why
> does that happen.
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Pranav Lal
>   To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning
> the disabled.'
>   Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:59 AM
>   Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
>
>particular
>   option, is a challenge.
>   Any tips?
>   PL] What options are you looking for? A little exploration does not hurt.
>
>   Pranav
>
>   -Original Message-
>   From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of
>   Asudani, Rajesh
>   Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:43 AM
>   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the
>   disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>   Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
>   Are short cuts of office xp usable in office 10?
>
>   Moreover, eeven if the ribbons are accessible, where to find a particular
>   option, is a challenge.
>   Any tips?
>
>   -Original Message-
>   From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of
>   Aravind R
>   Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:34 AM
>   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the
>   disabled.
>   Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
>   minimum jaws13 is required and all ribbens are accessible.
>
>   On 3/17/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
>   > JAWS 16.
>   >
>   > Can short cut keys be used?
>   > Are ribbons navigable?
>   >
>   > Actually I am using office 7, and find that short cuts are usable and
>   > ribbons partially navigable.
>   > But a student of mine who has to use office 10 in her computer course
>   > is complaining about inaccessibility.
>   > She is using lower JAWS, perhaps.
>   >
>   > -Original Message-
>   > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>   > Behalf Of Pranav Lal
>   > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:30 AM
>   > To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>   > concerning the disabled.'
>   > Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>   >
>   > What version of jaws will you be using with office 2010?
>   >
>   > Pranav
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
>   > accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on:
>   > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_acc
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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Asudani, Rajesh]

Oh, so are there regular and virtual ribbons in MS office?
That's a news to me.
So, menus are not there in office 7, and if we do not check read virtual 
ribbons in jaws start up wizard, then also can we do the things in word 7 10 13 
and so on?

Please guide as the ever changing technology leaves me in lurche more often 
than not.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Pranav Lal
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 5:49 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

Hi Vikas and all,

I avoid using virtual ribbons. For one thing, the regular ribbons are perfectly
navigable. Secondly, ribbons are dynamic and I am not sure if the virtual
ribbons feature handles that situation particularly well.

Pranav

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Vikas Kapoor
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 8:10 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the
disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

A best situation that I've come across relates to drawing tables on power point
presentation. While inserting or creating tables in 2010 PPT is quite easy when
the virtual ribbons are turned off, it is very difficult to do the same when the
JAWS virtual ribbon option is turned on. I have no further explanation as to why
does that happen.
  - Original Message -
  From: Pranav Lal
  To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
  Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10


  mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
  Asudani, Rajesh
  Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:43 AM
  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the
  disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

  Are short cuts of office xp usable in office 10?

  Moreover, eeven if the ribbons are accessible, where to find a particular
  option, is a challenge.
  Any tips?

  -Original Message-
  From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
  Aravind R
  Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:34 AM
  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the
  disabled.
  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

  minimum jaws13 is required and all ribbens are accessible.

  On 3/17/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
  > JAWS 16.
  >
  > Can short cut keys be used?
  > Are ribbons navigable?
  >
  > Actually I am using office 7, and find that short cuts are usable and
  > ribbons partially navigable.
  > But a student of mine who has to use office 10 in her computer course
  > is complaining about inaccessibility.
  > She is using lower JAWS, perhaps.
  >
  > -Original Message-
  > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
  > Behalf Of Pranav Lal
  > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:30 AM
  > To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
  > concerning the disabled.'
  > Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
  >
  > What version of jaws will you be using with office 2010?
  >
  > Pranav
  >
  >
  >
  > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
  > accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on:
  > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_acc
  > essindia.org.in
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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Vikas Kapoor]

But in that way, the menus will not be read out by JAWS... By turning off the 
virtual ribbon from the JAWS setting centre, the menus are still accessible by 
and large.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Aravind R 
  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled. 
  Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 3:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10


  press alt to enter into ribben,
  press right arrow until you reach minimise located at the right side of help.
  press space bar on that.
  virtual ribben will vanish.

  On 3/18/16, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com> wrote:
  > But how to turn off the virtual ribbons? I have to often draw tables in MS
  > Word, which I could do extremely  well in MS Word 2003.  Adding or deleting
  >
  > rows or collumns was also very easy. But now I cannot do any of those things
  >
  > because of the ribbon business. Therefore, along with the currunt MS Ofice,
  >
  > I again installed Office 2003 and I use it to make all the changes as and
  > when I want them.
  > Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
  > - Original Message -
  > From: "Vikas Kapoor" <dl.vi...@gmail.com>
  > To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
  >
  > the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
  > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 8:09 AM
  > Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
  >
  >
  >>A best situation that I've come across relates to drawing tables on power
  >>point presentation. While inserting or creating tables in 2010 PPT is quite
  >>
  >>easy when the virtual ribbons are turned off, it is very difficult to do
  >>the same when the JAWS virtual ribbon option is turned on. I have no
  >>further explanation as to why does that happen.
  >>  - Original Message -
  >>  From: Pranav Lal
  >>  To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
  >> concerning the disabled.'
  >>  Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:59 AM
  >>  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
  >>
  >>
  >>  > particular
  >>  option, is a challenge.
  >>  Any tips?
  >>  PL] What options are you looking for? A little exploration does not
  >> hurt.
  >>
  >>  Pranav
  >>
  >>  -Original Message-
  >>  From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
  >> Behalf Of
  >>  Asudani, Rajesh
  >>  Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:43 AM
  >>  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
  >> concerning the
  >>  disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
  >>  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
  >>
  >>  Are short cuts of office xp usable in office 10?
  >>
  >>  Moreover, eeven if the ribbons are accessible, where to find a
  >> particular
  >>  option, is a challenge.
  >>  Any tips?
  >>
  >>  -Original Message-
  >>  From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
  >> Behalf Of
  >>  Aravind R
  >>  Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:34 AM
  >>  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
  >> concerning the
  >>  disabled.
  >>  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
  >>
  >>  minimum jaws13 is required and all ribbens are accessible.
  >>
  >>  On 3/17/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
  >>  > JAWS 16.
  >>  >
  >>  > Can short cut keys be used?
  >>  > Are ribbons navigable?
  >>  >
  >>  > Actually I am using office 7, and find that short cuts are usable and
  >>  > ribbons partially navigable.
  >>  > But a student of mine who has to use office 10 in her computer course
  >>  > is complaining about inaccessibility.
  >>  > She is using lower JAWS, perhaps.
  >>  >
  >>  > -Original Message-
  >>  > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
  >>  > Behalf Of Pranav Lal
  >>  > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:30 AM
  >>  > To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
  >>  > concerning the disabled.'
  >>  > Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
  >>  >
  >>  > What version of jaws will you be using with office 2010?
  >>  >
  >>  > Pranav
  >>  >
  >>  >
  >>  >
  >>  > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
  >>  > accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on:
  >>  > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_acc
  >>  > essindia.org.in
  >>  >
  >>  >
  >>  > S

Re: [AI] Office 10

[Ajay Minocha]

Hi sir,

I agree with you 100% but we wouldn't get anything by bashing those
companies on this list.

On 3/20/16, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Mr. Ajay, it is easy to preach philosophy, but coping with that
> philosophy is not easy for everyone.  Nobody says that we should not make
> efforts, But when you say an outdated technology, there should be some
> reason to turn the technology into an out dated one. What was wrong with
> Office 2003, so that it was redundend? We never mind changes but they should
>
> be for the betterment of the community, and not only for the whim of the
> developers. The Microsoft Vista is the best example. That version of the
> operating system totally went flop.  What was wrong with the nokia phones?
> They could havbe improved those to the higher level.  My main objection is
> that they never take into consideration the difficulties faced by the VI
> persons, whose number is not neglijable. And it is only we, who have to keep
>
> adjusting. Thanking you, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ajay Minocha" <ajayminoc...@gmail.com>
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>
> the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 1:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Completely agree with Pranav, Ribbens are fully accessible with either
>> jaws or NVDA for that matter. I think we should focus on updating our
>> knowledge rather than clinging to outdated stuff. There are number of
>> online courses by cisco or other institutions which can enable us to
>> keep ourselves updated with the latest technology. Its just about
>> putting that extra effort.
>>
>> Note: Just a personal opinion, don't want to criticize anyone in
>> particular.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ajay
>>
>> On 3/19/16, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello Pranav, thanks for your valuable guidance.
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav@gmail.com>
>>> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>>
>>> the disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 5:49 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>>
>>>
>>>> Shyam,
>>>>
>>>> Why are you drawing tables? You can specify the number of rows and
>>>> columns
>>>>
>>>> and
>>>> have word create the table for you. If you are using the ribbons, do
>>>> the
>>>> following.
>>>> 1. Navigate to the insert tab.
>>>> 2. Press tab to go to the lower ribbon. This is where you find the
>>>> options
>>>>
>>>> under
>>>> the insert tab.
>>>> 3. Press ctrl+right arrow to navigate to the tables group.
>>>> 4. Activate the option called "table"
>>>> 5. Alternatively, to do steps 1 through 3 faster,  press alt+n for
>>>> insert
>>>>
>>>> and
>>>> then press the letter t for table.
>>>> 6. Arrow up to the option called "Insert Table".
>>>> 7. Press enter to activate it.
>>>> 8. Follow the oprompts.
>>>>
>>>> To insert and or delete rows and or columns, you can activate the
>>>> context
>>>>
>>>> menu
>>>> when you are in a table and activate the relevant options.
>>>>
>>>> Pranav
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility
>>>>
>>>> of
>>>>
>>>> mobile phones / Tabs on:
>>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Search for old postings at:
>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/
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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

But how to turn off the virtual ribbons? I have to often draw tables in MS 
Word, which I could do extremely  well in MS Word 2003.  Adding or deleting 
rows or collumns was also very easy. But now I cannot do any of those things 
because of the ribbon business. Therefore, along with the currunt MS Ofice, 
I again installed Office 2003 and I use it to make all the changes as and 
when I want them.

Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
- Original Message - 
From: "Vikas Kapoor" <dl.vi...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10


A best situation that I've come across relates to drawing tables on power 
point presentation. While inserting or creating tables in 2010 PPT is quite 
easy when the virtual ribbons are turned off, it is very difficult to do 
the same when the JAWS virtual ribbon option is turned on. I have no 
further explanation as to why does that happen.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Pranav Lal
 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the disabled.'

 Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10


 particular

 option, is a challenge.
 Any tips?
 PL] What options are you looking for? A little exploration does not hurt.

 Pranav

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of

 Asudani, Rajesh
 Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:43 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the

 disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
 Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

 Are short cuts of office xp usable in office 10?

 Moreover, eeven if the ribbons are accessible, where to find a particular
 option, is a challenge.
 Any tips?

 -Original Message-
 From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of

 Aravind R
 Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:34 AM
 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning the

 disabled.
 Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

 minimum jaws13 is required and all ribbens are accessible.

 On 3/17/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
 > JAWS 16.
 >
 > Can short cut keys be used?
 > Are ribbons navigable?
 >
 > Actually I am using office 7, and find that short cuts are usable and
 > ribbons partially navigable.
 > But a student of mine who has to use office 10 in her computer course
 > is complaining about inaccessibility.
 > She is using lower JAWS, perhaps.
 >
 > -Original Message-
 > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
 > Behalf Of Pranav Lal
 > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:30 AM
 > To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
 > concerning the disabled.'
 > Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
 >
 > What version of jaws will you be using with office 2010?
 >
 > Pranav
 >
 >
 >
 > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
 > accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on:
 > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_acc
 > essindia.org.in
 >
 >
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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello Mr. Ajay, it is easy to preach philosophy, but coping with that 
philosophy is not easy for everyone.  Nobody says that we should not make 
efforts, But when you say an outdated technology, there should be some 
reason to turn the technology into an out dated one. What was wrong with 
Office 2003, so that it was redundend? We never mind changes but they should 
be for the betterment of the community, and not only for the whim of the 
developers. The Microsoft Vista is the best example. That version of the 
operating system totally went flop.  What was wrong with the nokia phones? 
They could havbe improved those to the higher level.  My main objection is 
that they never take into consideration the difficulties faced by the VI 
persons, whose number is not neglijable. And it is only we, who have to keep 
adjusting. Thanking you, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
- Original Message - 
From: "Ajay Minocha" <ajayminoc...@gmail.com>
To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10



Hi all,

Completely agree with Pranav, Ribbens are fully accessible with either
jaws or NVDA for that matter. I think we should focus on updating our
knowledge rather than clinging to outdated stuff. There are number of
online courses by cisco or other institutions which can enable us to
keep ourselves updated with the latest technology. Its just about
putting that extra effort.

Note: Just a personal opinion, don't want to criticize anyone in 
particular.


Regards,
Ajay

On 3/19/16, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Pranav, thanks for your valuable guidance.
- Original Message -
From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav@gmail.com>
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning


the disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 5:49 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10



Shyam,

Why are you drawing tables? You can specify the number of rows and 
columns


and
have word create the table for you. If you are using the ribbons, do the
following.
1. Navigate to the insert tab.
2. Press tab to go to the lower ribbon. This is where you find the 
options


under
the insert tab.
3. Press ctrl+right arrow to navigate to the tables group.
4. Activate the option called "table"
5. Alternatively, to do steps 1 through 3 faster,  press alt+n for 
insert


and
then press the letter t for table.
6. Arrow up to the option called "Insert Table".
7. Press enter to activate it.
8. Follow the oprompts.

To insert and or delete rows and or columns, you can activate the 
context


menu
when you are in a table and activate the relevant options.

Pranav



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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Ajay Minocha]

Hi all,

Completely agree with Pranav, Ribbens are fully accessible with either
jaws or NVDA for that matter. I think we should focus on updating our
knowledge rather than clinging to outdated stuff. There are number of
online courses by cisco or other institutions which can enable us to
keep ourselves updated with the latest technology. Its just about
putting that extra effort.

Note: Just a personal opinion, don't want to criticize anyone in particular.

Regards,
Ajay

On 3/19/16, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Pranav, thanks for your valuable guidance.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav@gmail.com>
> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>
> the disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 5:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
>
>> Shyam,
>>
>> Why are you drawing tables? You can specify the number of rows and columns
>>
>> and
>> have word create the table for you. If you are using the ribbons, do the
>> following.
>> 1. Navigate to the insert tab.
>> 2. Press tab to go to the lower ribbon. This is where you find the options
>>
>> under
>> the insert tab.
>> 3. Press ctrl+right arrow to navigate to the tables group.
>> 4. Activate the option called "table"
>> 5. Alternatively, to do steps 1 through 3 faster,  press alt+n for insert
>>
>> and
>> then press the letter t for table.
>> 6. Arrow up to the option called "Insert Table".
>> 7. Press enter to activate it.
>> 8. Follow the oprompts.
>>
>> To insert and or delete rows and or columns, you can activate the context
>>
>> menu
>> when you are in a table and activate the relevant options.
>>
>> Pranav
>>
>>
>>
>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of
>>
>> mobile phones / Tabs on:
>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in
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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Pranav Lal]

Hi Vikas and all,

I avoid using virtual ribbons. For one thing, the regular ribbons are perfectly
navigable. Secondly, ribbons are dynamic and I am not sure if the virtual
ribbons feature handles that situation particularly well.

Pranav

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Vikas Kapoor
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 8:10 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the
disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

A best situation that I've come across relates to drawing tables on power point
presentation. While inserting or creating tables in 2010 PPT is quite easy when
the virtual ribbons are turned off, it is very difficult to do the same when the
JAWS virtual ribbon option is turned on. I have no further explanation as to why
does that happen.
  - Original Message -
  From: Pranav Lal
  To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.' 
  Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10


  mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
  Asudani, Rajesh
  Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:43 AM
  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the
  disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

  Are short cuts of office xp usable in office 10?

  Moreover, eeven if the ribbons are accessible, where to find a particular
  option, is a challenge.
  Any tips?

  -Original Message-
  From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
  Aravind R
  Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:34 AM
  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the
  disabled.
  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

  minimum jaws13 is required and all ribbens are accessible.

  On 3/17/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
  > JAWS 16.
  >
  > Can short cut keys be used?
  > Are ribbons navigable?
  >
  > Actually I am using office 7, and find that short cuts are usable and
  > ribbons partially navigable.
  > But a student of mine who has to use office 10 in her computer course
  > is complaining about inaccessibility.
  > She is using lower JAWS, perhaps.
  >
  > -Original Message-
  > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
  > Behalf Of Pranav Lal
  > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:30 AM
  > To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
  > concerning the disabled.'
  > Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
  >
  > What version of jaws will you be using with office 2010?
  >
  > Pranav
  >
  >
  >
  > Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing
  > accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on:
  > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_acc
  > essindia.org.in
  >
  >
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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Aravind R]

some changes should be done in office 2010 backstage settings by
pressing alt+f and o like switching off live preview so that jaws and
NVDA gives best feedback in office 2010

On 3/18/16, Vikas Kapoor <dl.vi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A best situation that I've come across relates to drawing tables on power
> point presentation. While inserting or creating tables in 2010 PPT is quite
> easy when the virtual ribbons are turned off, it is very difficult to do the
> same when the JAWS virtual ribbon option is turned on. I have no further
> explanation as to why does that happen.
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Pranav Lal
>   To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
> concerning the disabled.'
>   Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:59 AM
>   Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
>
>particular
>   option, is a challenge.
>   Any tips?
>   PL] What options are you looking for? A little exploration does not hurt.
>
>   Pranav
>
>   -Original Message-
>   From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of
>   Asudani, Rajesh
>   Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:43 AM
>   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the
>   disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>   Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
>   Are short cuts of office xp usable in office 10?
>
>   Moreover, eeven if the ribbons are accessible, where to find a particular
>   option, is a challenge.
>   Any tips?
>
>   -Original Message-
>   From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
> Behalf Of
>   Aravind R
>   Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:34 AM
>   To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the
>   disabled.
>   Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
>   minimum jaws13 is required and all ribbens are accessible.
>
>   On 3/17/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
>   > JAWS 16.
>   >
>   > Can short cut keys be used?
>   > Are ribbons navigable?
>   >
>   > Actually I am using office 7, and find that short cuts are usable and
>   > ribbons partially navigable.
>   > But a student of mine who has to use office 10 in her computer course
>   > is complaining about inaccessibility.
>   > She is using lower JAWS, perhaps.
>   >
>   > -Original Message-
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>   > Behalf Of Pranav Lal
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>   > Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>   >
>   > What version of jaws will you be using with office 2010?
>   >
>   > Pranav
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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Vikas Kapoor]

A best situation that I've come across relates to drawing tables on power point 
presentation. While inserting or creating tables in 2010 PPT is quite easy when 
the virtual ribbons are turned off, it is very difficult to do the same when 
the JAWS virtual ribbon option is turned on. I have no further explanation as 
to why does that happen.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Pranav Lal 
  To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.' 
  Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10


  mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
  Asudani, Rajesh
  Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:43 AM
  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the
  disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

  Are short cuts of office xp usable in office 10?

  Moreover, eeven if the ribbons are accessible, where to find a particular
  option, is a challenge.
  Any tips?

  -Original Message-
  From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
  Aravind R
  Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:34 AM
  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the
  disabled.
  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

  minimum jaws13 is required and all ribbens are accessible.

  On 3/17/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
  > JAWS 16.
  >
  > Can short cut keys be used?
  > Are ribbons navigable?
  >
  > Actually I am using office 7, and find that short cuts are usable and 
  > ribbons partially navigable.
  > But a student of mine who has to use office 10 in her computer course 
  > is complaining about inaccessibility.
  > She is using lower JAWS, perhaps.
  >
  > -Original Message-
  > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
  > Behalf Of Pranav Lal
  > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:30 AM
  > To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
  > concerning the disabled.'
  > Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
  >
  > What version of jaws will you be using with office 2010?
  >
  > Pranav
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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Pranav Lal]

Shyam,

Why are you drawing tables? You can specify the number of rows and columns and
have word create the table for you. If you are using the ribbons, do the
following.
1. Navigate to the insert tab.
2. Press tab to go to the lower ribbon. This is where you find the options under
the insert tab.
3. Press ctrl+right arrow to navigate to the tables group.
4. Activate the option called "table"
5. Alternatively, to do steps 1 through 3 faster,  press alt+n for insert and
then press the letter t for table.
6. Arrow up to the option called "Insert Table".
7. Press enter to activate it.
8. Follow the oprompts.

To insert and or delete rows and or columns, you can activate the context menu
when you are in a table and activate the relevant options.

Pranav



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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Vikas Kapoor]

JAWS virtual ribbon menu can be turned off or on from the JAWS setting centre.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Shyam M. Sayanekar 
  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled. 
  Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 2:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10


  But how to turn off the virtual ribbons? I have to often draw tables in MS 
  Word, which I could do extremely  well in MS Word 2003.  Adding or deleting 
  rows or collumns was also very easy. But now I cannot do any of those things 
  because of the ribbon business. Therefore, along with the currunt MS Ofice, 
  I again installed Office 2003 and I use it to make all the changes as and 
  when I want them.
  Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
  - Original Message - 
  From: "Vikas Kapoor" <dl.vi...@gmail.com>
  To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
  the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
  Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 8:09 AM
  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10


  >A best situation that I've come across relates to drawing tables on power 
  >point presentation. While inserting or creating tables in 2010 PPT is quite 
  >easy when the virtual ribbons are turned off, it is very difficult to do 
  >the same when the JAWS virtual ribbon option is turned on. I have no 
  >further explanation as to why does that happen.
  >  - Original Message - 
  >  From: Pranav Lal
  >  To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
  > concerning the disabled.'
  >  Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:59 AM
  >  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
  >
  >
  >   particular
  >  option, is a challenge.
  >  Any tips?
  >  PL] What options are you looking for? A little exploration does not hurt.
  >
  >  Pranav
  >
  >  -Original Message-
  >  From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
  > Behalf Of
  >  Asudani, Rajesh
  >  Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:43 AM
  >  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
  > concerning the
  >  disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
  >  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
  >
  >  Are short cuts of office xp usable in office 10?
  >
  >  Moreover, eeven if the ribbons are accessible, where to find a particular
  >  option, is a challenge.
  >  Any tips?
  >
  >  -Original Message-
  >  From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
  > Behalf Of
  >  Aravind R
  >  Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:34 AM
  >  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
  > concerning the
  >  disabled.
  >  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
  >
  >  minimum jaws13 is required and all ribbens are accessible.
  >
  >  On 3/17/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
  >  > JAWS 16.
  >  >
  >  > Can short cut keys be used?
  >  > Are ribbons navigable?
  >  >
  >  > Actually I am using office 7, and find that short cuts are usable and
  >  > ribbons partially navigable.
  >  > But a student of mine who has to use office 10 in her computer course
  >  > is complaining about inaccessibility.
  >  > She is using lower JAWS, perhaps.
  >  >
  >  > -Original Message-
  >  > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
  >  > Behalf Of Pranav Lal
  >  > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:30 AM
  >  > To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
  >  > concerning the disabled.'
  >  > Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
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  >  > What version of jaws will you be using with office 2010?
  >  >
  >  > Pranav
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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Pranav Lal]

mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:43 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the
disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

Are short cuts of office xp usable in office 10?

Moreover, eeven if the ribbons are accessible, where to find a particular
option, is a challenge.
Any tips?

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Aravind R
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:34 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

minimum jaws13 is required and all ribbens are accessible.

On 3/17/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
> JAWS 16.
>
> Can short cut keys be used?
> Are ribbons navigable?
>
> Actually I am using office 7, and find that short cuts are usable and 
> ribbons partially navigable.
> But a student of mine who has to use office 10 in her computer course 
> is complaining about inaccessibility.
> She is using lower JAWS, perhaps.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Pranav Lal
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:30 AM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
> What version of jaws will you be using with office 2010?
>
> Pranav
>
>
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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Aravind R]

office 2003 shortcut keys also work with 2010 sir but jaws wont
announce until you complete entire shortcuts.
for example, for moving a sheet, you type alt+e then m in office 2003.
here, after typing alt+e, jaws will say "continue typing office 2003
shortcut" then it will say nothing like announcing general keys.
you have to assume and type like m for move and l for delete, then
jaws will announce.
i will send you the tutorial personally.

On 3/17/16, Kotian, H P <hpkot...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
> Dear Rajesh
> Short cut  keys of Office 2003 usually works on later versions as well.
> We need to keep this short cut key list as a reference.
> Harish.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Asudani, Rajesh
> Sent: 17 March 2016 11:43
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
> Are short cuts of office xp usable in office 10?
>
> Moreover, eeven if the ribbons are accessible, where to find a particular
> option, is a challenge.
> Any tips?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Aravind R
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:34 AM
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.
> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
> minimum jaws13 is required and all ribbens are accessible.
>
> On 3/17/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
>> JAWS 16.
>>
>> Can short cut keys be used?
>> Are ribbons navigable?
>>
>> Actually I am using office 7, and find that short cuts are usable and
>> ribbons partially navigable.
>> But a student of mine who has to use office 10 in her computer course
>> is complaining about inaccessibility.
>> She is using lower JAWS, perhaps.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf Of Pranav Lal
>> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:30 AM
>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning the disabled.'
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>
>> What version of jaws will you be using with office 2010?
>>
>> Pranav
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Aravind R]

no sir, ribbens  are made to redesign ms office menus layout more
appealing for sighted customers.
it presents more options in simple layout comparing to office 2003.
but, they never consider about accessibility issues when ms office
faces strict competition.
but, jaws has redesigned itself to accomidate with ribbens.
you have to just unlearn 2003 shortcuts and learn 2010 shortcuts thats all.


On 3/17/16, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello, but I don't understand that in stead of making things more and more
> simple why they make things more and more difficult. When Office 2003 was so
>
> very user friendly and simple, I don't understand why they had to bring this
>
> ribben business. Same is the case with mobiles. Android lolipop is more
> tedious than Kitkat. The researchers are there to help people or to add to
> their difficulties.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Aravind R" <aravind.andhrab...@gmail.com>
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>
> the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 12:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
>
>> office 2003 shortcut keys also work with 2010 sir but jaws wont
>> announce until you complete entire shortcuts.
>> for example, for moving a sheet, you type alt+e then m in office 2003.
>> here, after typing alt+e, jaws will say "continue typing office 2003
>> shortcut" then it will say nothing like announcing general keys.
>> you have to assume and type like m for move and l for delete, then
>> jaws will announce.
>> i will send you the tutorial personally.
>>
>> On 3/17/16, Kotian, H P <hpkot...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
>>> Dear Rajesh
>>> Short cut  keys of Office 2003 usually works on later versions as well.
>>> We need to keep this short cut key list as a reference.
>>> Harish.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Asudani, Rajesh
>>> Sent: 17 March 2016 11:43
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>>
>>> Are short cuts of office xp usable in office 10?
>>>
>>> Moreover, eeven if the ribbons are accessible, where to find a
>>> particular
>>> option, is a challenge.
>>> Any tips?
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Aravind R
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:34 AM
>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>> concerning
>>> the disabled.
>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>>
>>> minimum jaws13 is required and all ribbens are accessible.
>>>
>>> On 3/17/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
>>>> JAWS 16.
>>>>
>>>> Can short cut keys be used?
>>>> Are ribbons navigable?
>>>>
>>>> Actually I am using office 7, and find that short cuts are usable and
>>>> ribbons partially navigable.
>>>> But a student of mine who has to use office 10 in her computer course
>>>> is complaining about inaccessibility.
>>>> She is using lower JAWS, perhaps.
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>>> Behalf Of Pranav Lal
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:30 AM
>>>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>>> concerning the disabled.'
>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>>>
>>>> What version of jaws will you be using with office 2010?
>>>>
>>>> Pranav
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Kotian, H P]

Dear Rajesh
Short cut  keys of Office 2003 usually works on later versions as well.
We need to keep this short cut key list as a reference.
Harish.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: 17 March 2016 11:43
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

Are short cuts of office xp usable in office 10?

Moreover, eeven if the ribbons are accessible, where to find a particular 
option, is a challenge.
Any tips?

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Aravind R
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:34 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

minimum jaws13 is required and all ribbens are accessible.

On 3/17/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
> JAWS 16.
>
> Can short cut keys be used?
> Are ribbons navigable?
>
> Actually I am using office 7, and find that short cuts are usable and 
> ribbons partially navigable.
> But a student of mine who has to use office 10 in her computer course 
> is complaining about inaccessibility.
> She is using lower JAWS, perhaps.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Pranav Lal
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:30 AM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
> What version of jaws will you be using with office 2010?
>
> Pranav
>
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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Pranav Lal]

What version of jaws will you be using with office 2010?

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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Aravind R]

press alt to enter into ribben,
press right arrow until you reach minimise located at the right side of help.
press space bar on that.
virtual ribben will vanish.

On 3/18/16, Shyam M. Sayanekar <sayane...@gmail.com> wrote:
> But how to turn off the virtual ribbons? I have to often draw tables in MS
> Word, which I could do extremely  well in MS Word 2003.  Adding or deleting
>
> rows or collumns was also very easy. But now I cannot do any of those things
>
> because of the ribbon business. Therefore, along with the currunt MS Ofice,
>
> I again installed Office 2003 and I use it to make all the changes as and
> when I want them.
> Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
> - Original Message -
> From: "Vikas Kapoor" <dl.vi...@gmail.com>
> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
>
> the disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 8:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
>
>>A best situation that I've come across relates to drawing tables on power
>>point presentation. While inserting or creating tables in 2010 PPT is quite
>>
>>easy when the virtual ribbons are turned off, it is very difficult to do
>>the same when the JAWS virtual ribbon option is turned on. I have no
>>further explanation as to why does that happen.
>>  - Original Message -
>>  From: Pranav Lal
>>  To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning the disabled.'
>>  Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:59 AM
>>  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>
>>
>>  > particular
>>  option, is a challenge.
>>  Any tips?
>>  PL] What options are you looking for? A little exploration does not
>> hurt.
>>
>>  Pranav
>>
>>  -Original Message-
>>  From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf Of
>>  Asudani, Rajesh
>>  Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:43 AM
>>  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning the
>>  disabled. <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
>>  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>
>>  Are short cuts of office xp usable in office 10?
>>
>>  Moreover, eeven if the ribbons are accessible, where to find a
>> particular
>>  option, is a challenge.
>>  Any tips?
>>
>>  -Original Message-
>>  From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf Of
>>  Aravind R
>>  Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:34 AM
>>  To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning the
>>  disabled.
>>  Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>
>>  minimum jaws13 is required and all ribbens are accessible.
>>
>>  On 3/17/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
>>  > JAWS 16.
>>  >
>>  > Can short cut keys be used?
>>  > Are ribbons navigable?
>>  >
>>  > Actually I am using office 7, and find that short cuts are usable and
>>  > ribbons partially navigable.
>>  > But a student of mine who has to use office 10 in her computer course
>>  > is complaining about inaccessibility.
>>  > She is using lower JAWS, perhaps.
>>  >
>>  > -Original Message-
>>  > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>>  > Behalf Of Pranav Lal
>>  > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:30 AM
>>  > To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>>  > concerning the disabled.'
>>  > Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>>  >
>>  > What version of jaws will you be using with office 2010?
>>  >
>>  > Pranav
>>  >
>>  >
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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Asudani, Rajesh]

JAWS 16.

Can short cut keys be used?
Are ribbons navigable?

Actually I am using office 7, and find that short cuts are usable and ribbons 
partially navigable.
But a student of mine who has to use office 10 in her computer course is 
complaining about inaccessibility.
She is using lower JAWS, perhaps.

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Pranav Lal
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:30 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

What version of jaws will you be using with office 2010?

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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Asudani, Rajesh]

Are short cuts of office xp usable in office 10?

Moreover, eeven if the ribbons are accessible, where to find a particular 
option, is a challenge.
Any tips?

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Aravind R
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:34 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

minimum jaws13 is required and all ribbens are accessible.

On 3/17/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
> JAWS 16.
>
> Can short cut keys be used?
> Are ribbons navigable?
>
> Actually I am using office 7, and find that short cuts are usable and
> ribbons partially navigable.
> But a student of mine who has to use office 10 in her computer course is
> complaining about inaccessibility.
> She is using lower JAWS, perhaps.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Pranav Lal
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:30 AM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
> What version of jaws will you be using with office 2010?
>
> Pranav
>
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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Aravind R]

minimum jaws13 is required and all ribbens are accessible.

On 3/17/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:
> JAWS 16.
>
> Can short cut keys be used?
> Are ribbons navigable?
>
> Actually I am using office 7, and find that short cuts are usable and
> ribbons partially navigable.
> But a student of mine who has to use office 10 in her computer course is
> complaining about inaccessibility.
> She is using lower JAWS, perhaps.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Pranav Lal
> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:30 AM
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10
>
> What version of jaws will you be using with office 2010?
>
> Pranav
>
>
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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello Pranav, thanks for your valuable guidance.
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From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav@gmail.com>
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>

Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 5:49 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10



Shyam,

Why are you drawing tables? You can specify the number of rows and columns 
and

have word create the table for you. If you are using the ribbons, do the
following.
1. Navigate to the insert tab.
2. Press tab to go to the lower ribbon. This is where you find the options 
under

the insert tab.
3. Press ctrl+right arrow to navigate to the tables group.
4. Activate the option called "table"
5. Alternatively, to do steps 1 through 3 faster,  press alt+n for insert 
and

then press the letter t for table.
6. Arrow up to the option called "Insert Table".
7. Press enter to activate it.
8. Follow the oprompts.

To insert and or delete rows and or columns, you can activate the context 
menu

when you are in a table and activate the relevant options.

Pranav



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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello, but I don't understand that in stead of making things more and more 
simple why they make things more and more difficult. When Office 2003 was so 
very user friendly and simple, I don't understand why they had to bring this 
ribben business. Same is the case with mobiles. Android lolipop is more 
tedious than Kitkat. The researchers are there to help people or to add to 
their difficulties.
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Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10



office 2003 shortcut keys also work with 2010 sir but jaws wont
announce until you complete entire shortcuts.
for example, for moving a sheet, you type alt+e then m in office 2003.
here, after typing alt+e, jaws will say "continue typing office 2003
shortcut" then it will say nothing like announcing general keys.
you have to assume and type like m for move and l for delete, then
jaws will announce.
i will send you the tutorial personally.

On 3/17/16, Kotian, H P <hpkot...@rbi.org.in> wrote:

Dear Rajesh
Short cut  keys of Office 2003 usually works on later versions as well.
We need to keep this short cut key list as a reference.
Harish.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: 17 March 2016 11:43
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

Are short cuts of office xp usable in office 10?

Moreover, eeven if the ribbons are accessible, where to find a particular
option, is a challenge.
Any tips?

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf

Of Aravind R
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:34 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
concerning

the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

minimum jaws13 is required and all ribbens are accessible.

On 3/17/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:

JAWS 16.

Can short cut keys be used?
Are ribbons navigable?

Actually I am using office 7, and find that short cuts are usable and
ribbons partially navigable.
But a student of mine who has to use office 10 in her computer course
is complaining about inaccessibility.
She is using lower JAWS, perhaps.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:30 AM
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concerning the disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

What version of jaws will you be using with office 2010?

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Re: [AI] Office 10

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Hi,
mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Asudani, Rajesh
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:15 AM
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Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

JAWS 16.

Can short cut keys be used?
Are ribbons navigable?

Actually I am using office 7, and find that short cuts are usable and ribbons
partially navigable.
But a student of mine who has to use office 10 in her computer course is
complaining about inaccessibility.
She is using lower JAWS, perhaps.

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Pranav Lal
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 5:30 AM
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the
disabled.'
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10

What version of jaws will you be using with office 2010?

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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Shyam M. Sayanekar]

Hello, I was very comfortable with MS Offfice 2003, but the ribben feature 
is beyond my understanding. I am not  able to use any menues in MS Word 
because of this ribben business.  Will you please explain me this feature 
step-by-step with examples? Can I get any tutorials on this matter? Thanking 
you in anticipation, Yours, Professor Shyam M. Sayanekar
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Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Office 10



yes sir, its accessible with jaws.
its just a matter of learning the ribben features when you migrate
from office 2003 to 2010.
i have already trained your RBI colligues balaji from chennai and
bhupendar from ahmedabad.
whatever doubts you have, you can ask us.

On 3/16/16, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote:

Friends
Is office 10 accessible with JAWS?
Please guide.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
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Re: [AI] Office 10

[Aravind R]

yes sir, its accessible with jaws.
its just a matter of learning the ribben features when you migrate
from office 2003 to 2010.
i have already trained your RBI colligues balaji from chennai and
bhupendar from ahmedabad.
whatever doubts you have, you can ask us.

On 3/16/16, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
> Friends
> Is office 10 accessible with JAWS?
> Please guide.
>
>
> सादर / With thanks & Regards
> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
> नागपुर Nagpur
>
> 0712 2806846
>
> President
> VIBEWA
> Co-Moderator
> VIB-India
>
> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
> laughter.
>
>
> 
> Caution: The Reserve Bank of India never sends mails, SMSs or makes calls
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[AI] Office 10

[Asudani, Rajesh]

Friends
Is office 10 accessible with JAWS?
Please guide.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
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