[AI] Writers provided by DU colleges script a tale of horror for disabled students
Thank you Sanchit for sharing this rarely publisised problem of ours. And I've changed the subject line to draw the attention of more readers. Very inate problem, I don't know how to overcome it. Most of us are not able to write on Laptops/desktops, and if university allows us to go along with our own arranged scribes, cases of scenior writers are very common. And Universities are very lethargic in facilitating scribes. what to do? Access India should discuss... And I urge to all Delhi University students to get united and pressurise concerned colleges to re conduct exams in above discussed cases. I pray justice will be served to these graduation students. On 11/26/12, Sanchit Katiyar katiyarsanchit...@gmail.com wrote: dear all, i am sending an article, published in The Hindu. this article throws light on the situation of visually Chelenged persons in one of the most prominent University in India. the hindu, NEW DELHI, November 26, 2012 Writers provided by DU colleges script a tale of horror for disabled students Vijetha S. N. Qualified writers replaced with peons by certain colleges this past week They may know their rights and be willing to fight for it, but that simply does not seem to be enough for certain colleges in Delhi University, who have made it impossible for disabled students to pass their examinations by replacing their qualified writers with college peons and the like this past week. “I was to take my English qualifying paper on November 21, but the college refused to allow my writer to accompany me. Instead, the college provided their peon who did not know English. I had to submit a blank paper,” is a complaint registered at the Equal Opportunities Cell by visually-impaired Sudhanshu Kumar, a student from Dyal Singh College. Another complaint is by Daulat Ram College student Himanshi who has trouble with her hands and legs. She stated in her complaint that her writer was made to leave at the start of the examination and the college provided her a writer half-an-hour late. The new writer was extremely slow and the college also refused to give her any extra time, as a result of which she had to submit an incomplete answer sheet. Visually-impaired student Najmul Hassan from SGBT Khalsa College also suffered in a similar manner. His complaint said that his writer was replaced by someone who could not even read the question paper. Equal Opportunities Cell officer on special duty Bipin Tiwary said he had registered a complaint with the university and had sent strongly worded letters to these colleges asking them to prevent such incidents in future, but that as far as past incidents go, there was nothing he can actually do to help these students. “They will not be able to take their exams again and will have to repeat a year, all because they are disabled,” he rued, adding that this was not the first time this had happened. “It happens every year with such students; the university has all these guidelines and privileges that they are entitled to, but it is of no use if colleges are so insensitive every year,” he said angrily, adding he had foreseen that such incidents could happen and had therefore sent a letter outlining the rights of these students and what the colleges were supposed to do for them about 20 days before the examinations were to begin. “It is clearly outlined that a student can get his or her own writers and if the college cannot allow that, then it is supposed to provide a qualified writer. In fact, the rules clearly stated that the colleges have to keep a bank of writers,” he said. “These are cases that have come to light because the students made the effort to come and complain to me here. I do not know if colleges are implementing other rules to make them comfortable. For example, there is a strict rule that they have to be seated on the ground floor. I do not know if all this is being implemented simply because it is impossible for me to go physically to more than 80 colleges to find out,” he said. with regards, Sanchit Katiyar. Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in -- Avinash Shahi MPhil Research Scholar Centre for the Study of Law and Governance Jawaharlal Nehru University New Delhi India Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessindia.org.in
Re: [AI] Writers provided by DU colleges script a tale of horror for disabled students
Scribe problems have been there in the past. But now, through the Cell for the Disabled, we recruited volunteers for scanning and even for scribing. No non-teaching staff will be utilised as scribes. As per the new scribe provisions, Scribe allowance is increased to Rs 300 for end-semester and Rs 200 for internal exam and will be paid immediately after the exam. The Cell scrutinised the writing and reading skills of students who wish to help as volunteers and then prepared a list of suitable scribes. The Cell wrote letters to all departments and collected dates of exams and planned the scribe work much before the semester exams. We also arranged separate rooms with examiners. This time, students were satisfied and no complaints were reported. Someone should take keen interest in managing the system and even anticipate problems much before. This time, 2 Visually Impaired faculty officiated the whole programme. Before selecting the scribes, the needy students should be profiled with respect to his dictation skills, speed and audibility etc and the appropriate scribe should be assigned. Often without profiling the student, scribes are arbitrarily allotted, much to the horror of the students and that's why the system often fails miserably. Surely, there must be a broad debate leading up to formulating a thorough system and students should take the lead. Regards, Rajasekhar Hyderabad -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 27 November 2012 14:42 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Writers provided by DU colleges script a tale of horror for disabled students Thank you Sanchit for sharing this rarely publisised problem of ours. And I've changed the subject line to draw the attention of more readers. Very inate problem, I don't know how to overcome it. Most of us are not able to write on Laptops/desktops, and if university allows us to go along with our own arranged scribes, cases of scenior writers are very common. And Universities are very lethargic in facilitating scribes. what to do? Access India should discuss... And I urge to all Delhi University students to get united and pressurise concerned colleges to re conduct exams in above discussed cases. I pray justice will be served to these graduation students. On 11/26/12, Sanchit Katiyar katiyarsanchit...@gmail.com wrote: dear all, i am sending an article, published in The Hindu. this article throws light on the situation of visually Chelenged persons in one of the most prominent University in India. the hindu, NEW DELHI, November 26, 2012 Writers provided by DU colleges script a tale of horror for disabled students Vijetha S. N. Qualified writers replaced with peons by certain colleges this past week They may know their rights and be willing to fight for it, but that simply does not seem to be enough for certain colleges in Delhi University, who have made it impossible for disabled students to pass their examinations by replacing their qualified writers with college peons and the like this past week. I was to take my English qualifying paper on November 21, but the college refused to allow my writer to accompany me. Instead, the college provided their peon who did not know English. I had to submit a blank paper, is a complaint registered at the Equal Opportunities Cell by visually-impaired Sudhanshu Kumar, a student from Dyal Singh College. Another complaint is by Daulat Ram College student Himanshi who has trouble with her hands and legs. She stated in her complaint that her writer was made to leave at the start of the examination and the college provided her a writer half-an-hour late. The new writer was extremely slow and the college also refused to give her any extra time, as a result of which she had to submit an incomplete answer sheet. Visually-impaired student Najmul Hassan from SGBT Khalsa College also suffered in a similar manner. His complaint said that his writer was replaced by someone who could not even read the question paper. Equal Opportunities Cell officer on special duty Bipin Tiwary said he had registered a complaint with the university and had sent strongly worded letters to these colleges asking them to prevent such incidents in future, but that as far as past incidents go, there was nothing he can actually do to help these students. They will not be able to take their exams again and will have to repeat a year, all because they are disabled, he rued, adding that this was not the first time this had happened. It happens every year with such students; the university has all these guidelines and privileges that they are entitled to, but it is of no use if colleges are so insensitive every year, he said angrily, adding he had foreseen that such incidents could happen and had therefore sent a letter outlining the rights of these students and what the colleges were supposed to do for
Re: [AI] Writers provided by DU colleges script a tale of horror for disabled students
shocking incidents! DU has its own guidelines for scribe where a senior student(from other stream) may be the scribe but I know these office bearrers apply their own mind and wrongly interprate the rules. I also have practical experience in Law faculty where I asked them that since I am pursuing masters degree, can I engage a student who is pursuing bachelor degree in law, then they outrightly rejected my option. However a person more qualified then the candidate maybe scribe but the condition is that he should have not passed related degree at the higher level which candidate himself pursuing. But I didn't argue them and I engaged a science student who was unaware of legal terminalogy and I had to dictate the spellings of many terms. I will advice to the students that before the exams they should consult about their scribe from concerned college office do they have any objection over the scribe. Otherwise my point is if they have doubt why they dont provide strict invigilation? Friends has anybody appeared in semester exam through computer in DU? if yes then please share his/her experience, if I opt to write my exam on computer then do u have any idea which system they will arrange for me? On 11/27/12, vijjes.rajasekhar vijjes.rajasek...@gmail.com wrote: Scribe problems have been there in the past. But now, through the Cell for the Disabled, we recruited volunteers for scanning and even for scribing. No non-teaching staff will be utilised as scribes. As per the new scribe provisions, Scribe allowance is increased to Rs 300 for end-semester and Rs 200 for internal exam and will be paid immediately after the exam. The Cell scrutinised the writing and reading skills of students who wish to help as volunteers and then prepared a list of suitable scribes. The Cell wrote letters to all departments and collected dates of exams and planned the scribe work much before the semester exams. We also arranged separate rooms with examiners. This time, students were satisfied and no complaints were reported. Someone should take keen interest in managing the system and even anticipate problems much before. This time, 2 Visually Impaired faculty officiated the whole programme. Before selecting the scribes, the needy students should be profiled with respect to his dictation skills, speed and audibility etc and the appropriate scribe should be assigned. Often without profiling the student, scribes are arbitrarily allotted, much to the horror of the students and that's why the system often fails miserably. Surely, there must be a broad debate leading up to formulating a thorough system and students should take the lead. Regards, Rajasekhar Hyderabad -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 27 November 2012 14:42 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Writers provided by DU colleges script a tale of horror for disabled students Thank you Sanchit for sharing this rarely publisised problem of ours. And I've changed the subject line to draw the attention of more readers. Very inate problem, I don't know how to overcome it. Most of us are not able to write on Laptops/desktops, and if university allows us to go along with our own arranged scribes, cases of scenior writers are very common. And Universities are very lethargic in facilitating scribes. what to do? Access India should discuss... And I urge to all Delhi University students to get united and pressurise concerned colleges to re conduct exams in above discussed cases. I pray justice will be served to these graduation students. On 11/26/12, Sanchit Katiyar katiyarsanchit...@gmail.com wrote: dear all, i am sending an article, published in The Hindu. this article throws light on the situation of visually Chelenged persons in one of the most prominent University in India. the hindu, NEW DELHI, November 26, 2012 Writers provided by DU colleges script a tale of horror for disabled students Vijetha S. N. Qualified writers replaced with peons by certain colleges this past week They may know their rights and be willing to fight for it, but that simply does not seem to be enough for certain colleges in Delhi University, who have made it impossible for disabled students to pass their examinations by replacing their qualified writers with college peons and the like this past week. I was to take my English qualifying paper on November 21, but the college refused to allow my writer to accompany me. Instead, the college provided their peon who did not know English. I had to submit a blank paper, is a complaint registered at the Equal Opportunities Cell by visually-impaired Sudhanshu Kumar, a student from Dyal Singh College. Another complaint is by Daulat Ram College student Himanshi who has trouble with her hands and legs. She stated in her complaint that her writer was made to leave at the start of the
Re: [AI] Writers provided by DU colleges script a tale of horror for disabled students
Hi, Dear Sanchit, During My LL.B course in Delhi university, I have wrote my all examinations through computer. The approach that you described is totally wrong and hence you should not agree for it. It is the responsibility of the University staff to type the question paper On 11/27/12, Sanchit Katiyar katiyarsanchit...@gmail.com wrote: dear sir, my one friend is writing his semester exams on computer. we have computers in our library and our college provided facility to write exams there. but I think you have to accompanied with a reader who can read questions for you. but one think I would like to suggest you that don't added your answer while writing. once you finished then absolutely you can added your answers. i am saying this thing because many of us have a tendency to check after writing. but if you do this during exams then you can loose your time. i have a point, if someone is writing his/her exams on computer, an invigilator will be there then why can't he/she read questions for us? what is the use to write exams on computer if we have to carry a reader for read questions? with regards, sanchit Katiyar. On 11/27/12, Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com wrote: shocking incidents! DU has its own guidelines for scribe where a senior student(from other stream) may be the scribe but I know these office bearrers apply their own mind and wrongly interprate the rules. I also have practical experience in Law faculty where I asked them that since I am pursuing masters degree, can I engage a student who is pursuing bachelor degree in law, then they outrightly rejected my option. However a person more qualified then the candidate maybe scribe but the condition is that he should have not passed related degree at the higher level which candidate himself pursuing. But I didn't argue them and I engaged a science student who was unaware of legal terminalogy and I had to dictate the spellings of many terms. I will advice to the students that before the exams they should consult about their scribe from concerned college office do they have any objection over the scribe. Otherwise my point is if they have doubt why they dont provide strict invigilation? Friends has anybody appeared in semester exam through computer in DU? if yes then please share his/her experience, if I opt to write my exam on computer then do u have any idea which system they will arrange for me? On 11/27/12, vijjes.rajasekhar vijjes.rajasek...@gmail.com wrote: Scribe problems have been there in the past. But now, through the Cell for the Disabled, we recruited volunteers for scanning and even for scribing. No non-teaching staff will be utilised as scribes. As per the new scribe provisions, Scribe allowance is increased to Rs 300 for end-semester and Rs 200 for internal exam and will be paid immediately after the exam. The Cell scrutinised the writing and reading skills of students who wish to help as volunteers and then prepared a list of suitable scribes. The Cell wrote letters to all departments and collected dates of exams and planned the scribe work much before the semester exams. We also arranged separate rooms with examiners. This time, students were satisfied and no complaints were reported. Someone should take keen interest in managing the system and even anticipate problems much before. This time, 2 Visually Impaired faculty officiated the whole programme. Before selecting the scribes, the needy students should be profiled with respect to his dictation skills, speed and audibility etc and the appropriate scribe should be assigned. Often without profiling the student, scribes are arbitrarily allotted, much to the horror of the students and that's why the system often fails miserably. Surely, there must be a broad debate leading up to formulating a thorough system and students should take the lead. Regards, Rajasekhar Hyderabad -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 27 November 2012 14:42 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Writers provided by DU colleges script a tale of horror for disabled students Thank you Sanchit for sharing this rarely publisised problem of ours. And I've changed the subject line to draw the attention of more readers. Very inate problem, I don't know how to overcome it. Most of us are not able to write on Laptops/desktops, and if university allows us to go along with our own arranged scribes, cases of scenior writers are very common. And Universities are very lethargic in facilitating scribes. what to do? Access India should discuss... And I urge to all Delhi University students to get united and pressurise concerned colleges to re conduct exams in above discussed cases. I pray justice will be served to these graduation students. On 11/26/12, Sanchit Katiyar katiyarsanchit...@gmail.com wrote: dear all, i am sending an
Re: [AI] Writers provided by DU colleges script a tale of horror for disabled students
Hi, Dear Sanchit, During My LL.B course in Delhi university, I have wrote my all examinations through computer. The approach that you described is totally wrong and hence you should not agree for it. It is the responsibility of the University staff to type the question paper for you. In my case, they typed the entire Questionpaper on computer. For this, they will obtain the question paper 1 or 2 hours earlier. obtaining question paper 2 hours earlier is not a big deal as they already do it. @Gufran: You have to inform the controler of examination before 15 days of your examination that you want to appear for your exams through computer, requesting him to make all the necessary arrangements. Regardless of your college, or examination center, your exam will be held in Braill library situated in North campus. Don't forget to check the computer before your exam. Go one day before to perform the computer check. ?All the best!!! On 11/27/12, akhilesh akhil.akhi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Dear Sanchit, During My LL.B course in Delhi university, I have wrote my all examinations through computer. The approach that you described is totally wrong and hence you should not agree for it. It is the responsibility of the University staff to type the question paper On 11/27/12, Sanchit Katiyar katiyarsanchit...@gmail.com wrote: dear sir, my one friend is writing his semester exams on computer. we have computers in our library and our college provided facility to write exams there. but I think you have to accompanied with a reader who can read questions for you. but one think I would like to suggest you that don't added your answer while writing. once you finished then absolutely you can added your answers. i am saying this thing because many of us have a tendency to check after writing. but if you do this during exams then you can loose your time. i have a point, if someone is writing his/her exams on computer, an invigilator will be there then why can't he/she read questions for us? what is the use to write exams on computer if we have to carry a reader for read questions? with regards, sanchit Katiyar. On 11/27/12, Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com wrote: shocking incidents! DU has its own guidelines for scribe where a senior student(from other stream) may be the scribe but I know these office bearrers apply their own mind and wrongly interprate the rules. I also have practical experience in Law faculty where I asked them that since I am pursuing masters degree, can I engage a student who is pursuing bachelor degree in law, then they outrightly rejected my option. However a person more qualified then the candidate maybe scribe but the condition is that he should have not passed related degree at the higher level which candidate himself pursuing. But I didn't argue them and I engaged a science student who was unaware of legal terminalogy and I had to dictate the spellings of many terms. I will advice to the students that before the exams they should consult about their scribe from concerned college office do they have any objection over the scribe. Otherwise my point is if they have doubt why they dont provide strict invigilation? Friends has anybody appeared in semester exam through computer in DU? if yes then please share his/her experience, if I opt to write my exam on computer then do u have any idea which system they will arrange for me? On 11/27/12, vijjes.rajasekhar vijjes.rajasek...@gmail.com wrote: Scribe problems have been there in the past. But now, through the Cell for the Disabled, we recruited volunteers for scanning and even for scribing. No non-teaching staff will be utilised as scribes. As per the new scribe provisions, Scribe allowance is increased to Rs 300 for end-semester and Rs 200 for internal exam and will be paid immediately after the exam. The Cell scrutinised the writing and reading skills of students who wish to help as volunteers and then prepared a list of suitable scribes. The Cell wrote letters to all departments and collected dates of exams and planned the scribe work much before the semester exams. We also arranged separate rooms with examiners. This time, students were satisfied and no complaints were reported. Someone should take keen interest in managing the system and even anticipate problems much before. This time, 2 Visually Impaired faculty officiated the whole programme. Before selecting the scribes, the needy students should be profiled with respect to his dictation skills, speed and audibility etc and the appropriate scribe should be assigned. Often without profiling the student, scribes are arbitrarily allotted, much to the horror of the students and that's why the system often fails miserably. Surely, there must be a broad debate leading up to formulating a thorough system and students should take the lead. Regards, Rajasekhar Hyderabad -Original Message- From: AccessIndia
Re: [AI] Writers provided by DU colleges script a tale of horror for disabled students
dear Akilesh and other legal experts, suppose a genuine candidate is denied off his/her exams due to these kind of rude behavior of the college people, can we demand a re-exam for those students by the university in the same semester as they would do in case of leak out of question papers? Umesha - Original Message - From: Shona Man shonam...@gmail.com To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Sent: Tuesday, 27 November, 2012 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [AI] Writers provided by DU colleges script a tale of horror for disabled students shocking incidents! DU has its own guidelines for scribe where a senior student(from other stream) may be the scribe but I know these office bearrers apply their own mind and wrongly interprate the rules. I also have practical experience in Law faculty where I asked them that since I am pursuing masters degree, can I engage a student who is pursuing bachelor degree in law, then they outrightly rejected my option. However a person more qualified then the candidate maybe scribe but the condition is that he should have not passed related degree at the higher level which candidate himself pursuing. But I didn't argue them and I engaged a science student who was unaware of legal terminalogy and I had to dictate the spellings of many terms. I will advice to the students that before the exams they should consult about their scribe from concerned college office do they have any objection over the scribe. Otherwise my point is if they have doubt why they dont provide strict invigilation? Friends has anybody appeared in semester exam through computer in DU? if yes then please share his/her experience, if I opt to write my exam on computer then do u have any idea which system they will arrange for me? On 11/27/12, vijjes.rajasekhar vijjes.rajasek...@gmail.com wrote: Scribe problems have been there in the past. But now, through the Cell for the Disabled, we recruited volunteers for scanning and even for scribing. No non-teaching staff will be utilised as scribes. As per the new scribe provisions, Scribe allowance is increased to Rs 300 for end-semester and Rs 200 for internal exam and will be paid immediately after the exam. The Cell scrutinised the writing and reading skills of students who wish to help as volunteers and then prepared a list of suitable scribes. The Cell wrote letters to all departments and collected dates of exams and planned the scribe work much before the semester exams. We also arranged separate rooms with examiners. This time, students were satisfied and no complaints were reported. Someone should take keen interest in managing the system and even anticipate problems much before. This time, 2 Visually Impaired faculty officiated the whole programme. Before selecting the scribes, the needy students should be profiled with respect to his dictation skills, speed and audibility etc and the appropriate scribe should be assigned. Often without profiling the student, scribes are arbitrarily allotted, much to the horror of the students and that's why the system often fails miserably. Surely, there must be a broad debate leading up to formulating a thorough system and students should take the lead. Regards, Rajasekhar Hyderabad -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of avinash shahi Sent: 27 November 2012 14:42 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in Subject: [AI] Writers provided by DU colleges script a tale of horror for disabled students Thank you Sanchit for sharing this rarely publisised problem of ours. And I've changed the subject line to draw the attention of more readers. Very inate problem, I don't know how to overcome it. Most of us are not able to write on Laptops/desktops, and if university allows us to go along with our own arranged scribes, cases of scenior writers are very common. And Universities are very lethargic in facilitating scribes. what to do? Access India should discuss... And I urge to all Delhi University students to get united and pressurise concerned colleges to re conduct exams in above discussed cases. I pray justice will be served to these graduation students. On 11/26/12, Sanchit Katiyar katiyarsanchit...@gmail.com wrote: dear all, i am sending an article, published in The Hindu. this article throws light on the situation of visually Chelenged persons in one of the most prominent University in India. the hindu, NEW DELHI, November 26, 2012 Writers provided by DU colleges script a tale of horror for disabled students Vijetha S. N. Qualified writers replaced with peons by certain colleges this past week They may know their rights and be willing to fight for it, but that simply does not seem to be enough for certain colleges in Delhi University, who have made it impossible for disabled students to pass their examinations by replacing their qualified writers with college peons and the like this past week. I was to take my English qualifying paper on
