[AI] disability sensus

2010-04-18 Thread Jean Parker
You said:
Caste, religion etc. can't be identified without a certificate, but
disability can be identified by the very presence of the person.  So,
I don't know how and why we want to hide this aspect
.

What if it is a hidden or invisible disability?  The presence of the person 
would neither confirm or deny the presence of a disability.
Jean


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Re: [AI] disability sensus

2010-04-18 Thread Subramani L
The problem is many families do not divulge the detail of a disabled
member since they consider it an unsuitable thing to mention. This is
largely based on ignorance and lack of education which is largely the
case. That is why they are trying all kinds of subtle ways to get the
information accurately. 

Subramani 



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Subject: [AI] disability sensus

You said:
Caste, religion etc. can't be identified without a certificate, but
disability can be identified by the very presence of the person.  So,
I don't know how and why we want to hide this aspect
.

What if it is a hidden or invisible disability?  The presence of the
person would neither confirm or deny the presence of a disability.
Jean


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Re: [AI] disability sensus

2010-04-18 Thread Vamshi. G
Hi Jean,

What do you mean by hidden or invisible disability?
I don't see any such term unless a person wants to hide his
disability, which, in my view, is unnecessary.


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On 4/18/10, Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com wrote:
 You said:
 Caste, religion etc. can't be identified without a certificate, but
 disability can be identified by the very presence of the person.  So,
 I don't know how and why we want to hide this aspect
 .

 What if it is a hidden or invisible disability?  The presence of the person
 would neither confirm or deny the presence of a disability.
 Jean


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Re: [AI] disability sensus

2010-04-18 Thread Subramani L
Probably she means things like dyslexia, even low vision, which is not
obvious yet is existing.   

Subramani 



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Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:28 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] disability sensus

Hi Jean,

What do you mean by hidden or invisible disability?
I don't see any such term unless a person wants to hide his
disability, which, in my view, is unnecessary.


-- 
G. Vamshi
PH Res : +91 877-2243861
Mobile: +91 9949349497
E-mail ID:
gvamsh...@gmail.com
Skype: gvamshi81

www.retinaindia.org
From darkness unto light


On 4/18/10, Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com wrote:
 You said:
 Caste, religion etc. can't be identified without a certificate, but
 disability can be identified by the very presence of the person.  So,
 I don't know how and why we want to hide this aspect
 .

 What if it is a hidden or invisible disability?  The presence of the
person
 would neither confirm or deny the presence of a disability.
 Jean


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Re: [AI] disability sensus

2010-04-18 Thread techy fox

no not always some time it is very harmfull you
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You said:
Caste, religion etc. can't be identified without a certificate, but
disability can be identified by the very presence of the person.  So,
I don't know how and why we want to hide this aspect
.

What if it is a hidden or invisible disability?  The presence of the 
person would neither confirm or deny the presence of a disability.

Jean


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Re: [AI] disability sensus

2010-04-18 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
The question is: whether a disability is relevant in general for public 
interaction in the world or not.
The deniers of including disability in UID card seem to think that disability 
is an irrelevant consideration in general, so why must it be mentioned in 
identity card?
However, it may or may not be a relevant consideration in a particular context.
However, it is a relevant factor in general.
We  seem to count it relevant, when we can use it to our advantage and at other 
times, we discount it as if it never existed.
I can understand this approach as a survival strategy in the evolutionary 
world, but This approach is clearly wrong.
We may contest the relevance of disability in a particular situation, and we 
may also differ in the ways it is relevant in a given case, but as a rule, 
disability is surely relevant while leading life.
So, why not mention it in UID card which is a general purpose instrument?
In India, even caste and religion are still relevant, like in America, race, or 
color is still relevant, in Africa also it is there.
Anyone who escapes from relevant reality surely slips into a cocoon of one's 
own from which it is difficult to emerge.
I can deal with doubts regarding relevance of various factors separately, but 
we are living in a condition where far more factors are relevant than we can 
think.


Regards

Perhaps our role on this planet is not to worship God-- but to create Him.

--Arthur C. Clarke

(Rajesh Asudani)

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Reserve Bank of India
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Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 1:43 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] disability sensus

You said:
Caste, religion etc. can't be identified without a certificate, but
disability can be identified by the very presence of the person.  So,
I don't know how and why we want to hide this aspect
.

What if it is a hidden or invisible disability?  The presence of the person 
would neither confirm or deny the presence of a disability.
Jean


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