Re: [AI] using a white cane

2011-10-02 Thread shubham gupta
Jean it would be better if you can upload it on some websight and send us 
the downloading link. if not posible than please send it to me also.

Kind regards

(Shubham Gupta)
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From: Asudani, Rajesh rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] using a white cane



Yes, Jean, please.


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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Balaram

Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:46 AM
To: Jean Parker; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] using a white cane

Dear Jean,
please please come up with a word document so all of the white cane
users as well as the one who wish to use it can be benefited.
I don't think, attachment is permitted in this list and if so, please
provide  a link or post it to those who needs it in their Personal Email
IDS.

You can write to me if you please in my personal ID that is,
chess.bala...@gmail.com

Regards,

P. Balaraman.






On 9/27/2011 9:59 AM, Jean Parker wrote:

Dear All:

In reading the many postings about mobility, sighted guides and canes, it 
is apparent that many people on this list have never had any formal 
training in use of the white cane.  I am thinking of those who have 
posted who have become blind in adulthood or are from rural areas where 
blindness rehabilitation training has not been available.


Of course there is no substitute for a structured program in rehab and 
adjustment to blindness as would be received from a formal rehabilitation 
center.  But there are documents that clearly articulate how a white cane 
is used and give detailed steps for learning, or improving cane 
technique.


There is one such document on the National Federation of the Blind's web 
site called The Care and Feeding of the White Cane.  It is written for 
conditions that would be found in developed countries but is very 
applicable to our conditions in India.  It is on their web site as a 
series of documents by topic.  I do not think it is downloadable as a 
whole document.  However, if enough people would find it helpful I am 
willing to piece it together in word and make it available as a printable 
document.  I could also make notations about variations in described 
techniques that would apply to our conditions.


Again, this would not substitute for formal mobility training, but for 
people who have lost their vision and just need to get on with life 
perhaps it would be helpful.  Even though I have been a cane traveler for 
many years I always get something out of it every time I read it.  As a 
printed document it would also be available to reluctant family members 
and friends who really don't know how blind people manage independent 
travel.


I would like to know if this document is something people would find of 
benefit?


Jean

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Re: [AI] using a white cane

2011-10-02 Thread shubham gupta

Jean please send it to me also on my personal id.

Kind regards

(Shubham Gupta)
- Original Message - 
From: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:29 PM
Subject: [AI] using a white cane



Dear All:

In reading the many postings about mobility, sighted guides and canes, it 
is apparent that many people on this list have never had any formal 
training in use of the white cane.  I am thinking of those who have posted 
who have become blind in adulthood or are from rural areas where blindness 
rehabilitation training has not been available.


Of course there is no substitute for a structured program in rehab and 
adjustment to blindness as would be received from a formal rehabilitation 
center.  But there are documents that clearly articulate how a white cane 
is used and give detailed steps for learning, or improving cane technique.


There is one such document on the National Federation of the Blind's web 
site called The Care and Feeding of the White Cane.  It is written for 
conditions that would be found in developed countries but is very 
applicable to our conditions in India.  It is on their web site as a 
series of documents by topic.  I do not think it is downloadable as a 
whole document.  However, if enough people would find it helpful I am 
willing to piece it together in word and make it available as a printable 
document.  I could also make notations about variations in described 
techniques that would apply to our conditions.


Again, this would not substitute for formal mobility training, but for 
people who have lost their vision and just need to get on with life 
perhaps it would be helpful.  Even though I have been a cane traveler for 
many years I always get something out of it every time I read it.  As a 
printed document it would also be available to reluctant family members 
and friends who really don't know how blind people manage independent 
travel.


I would like to know if this document is something people would find of 
benefit?


Jean

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Re: [AI] using a white cane

2011-10-02 Thread Mohammed Ahtesham Shaikh Zed
Hi all,
The document can be converted into a video and uploaded on youtube with
links posted on the list. This way practical demos can be given and the
family or friends of the visually challenged can teach the tricks and tips
to the VI.
People with low vision can learn tips without sighted help.


Mohammed Ahtesham
9820998588


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of shubham gupta
Sent: 02 October 2011 15:45
To: Jean Parker; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] using a white cane

Jean please send it to me also on my personal id.

Kind regards

(Shubham Gupta)
- Original Message - 
From: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:29 PM
Subject: [AI] using a white cane


 Dear All:

 In reading the many postings about mobility, sighted guides and canes, it 
 is apparent that many people on this list have never had any formal 
 training in use of the white cane.  I am thinking of those who have posted

 who have become blind in adulthood or are from rural areas where blindness

 rehabilitation training has not been available.

 Of course there is no substitute for a structured program in rehab and 
 adjustment to blindness as would be received from a formal rehabilitation 
 center.  But there are documents that clearly articulate how a white cane 
 is used and give detailed steps for learning, or improving cane technique.

 There is one such document on the National Federation of the Blind's web 
 site called The Care and Feeding of the White Cane.  It is written for 
 conditions that would be found in developed countries but is very 
 applicable to our conditions in India.  It is on their web site as a 
 series of documents by topic.  I do not think it is downloadable as a 
 whole document.  However, if enough people would find it helpful I am 
 willing to piece it together in word and make it available as a printable 
 document.  I could also make notations about variations in described 
 techniques that would apply to our conditions.

 Again, this would not substitute for formal mobility training, but for 
 people who have lost their vision and just need to get on with life 
 perhaps it would be helpful.  Even though I have been a cane traveler for 
 many years I always get something out of it every time I read it.  As a 
 printed document it would also be available to reluctant family members 
 and friends who really don't know how blind people manage independent 
 travel.

 I would like to know if this document is something people would find of 
 benefit?

 Jean

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Re: [AI] using a white cane

2011-09-28 Thread jayant garg
Greetings of the day 
I think it is a very good idea and I am also interested in having this
document so please mail it to me also 
-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Jean Parker
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:29 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] using a white cane

Dear All:

In reading the many postings about mobility, sighted guides and canes, it is
apparent that many people on this list have never had any formal training in
use of the white cane.  I am thinking of those who have posted who have
become blind in adulthood or are from rural areas where blindness
rehabilitation training has not been available.  

Of course there is no substitute for a structured program in rehab and
adjustment to blindness as would be received from a formal rehabilitation
center.  But there are documents that clearly articulate how a white cane is
used and give detailed steps for learning, or improving cane technique.  

There is one such document on the National Federation of the Blind's web
site called The Care and Feeding of the White Cane.  It is written for
conditions that would be found in developed countries but is very applicable
to our conditions in India.  It is on their web site as a series of
documents by topic.  I do not think it is downloadable as a whole document.
However, if enough people would find it helpful I am willing to piece it
together in word and make it available as a printable document.  I could
also make notations about variations in described techniques that would
apply to our conditions.  

Again, this would not substitute for formal mobility training, but for
people who have lost their vision and just need to get on with life perhaps
it would be helpful.  Even though I have been a cane traveler for many years
I always get something out of it every time I read it.  As a printed
document it would also be available to reluctant family members and friends
who really don't know how blind people manage independent travel.

I would like to know if this document is something people would find of
benefit?

Jean
  
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Re: [AI] using a white cane

2011-09-28 Thread Swarna Lakshmi
I would also like to have the document.

Regards,
Swarna.

On 9/28/11, jayant garg jayantgarg1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Greetings of the day
 I think it is a very good idea and I am also interested in having this
 document so please mail it to me also
 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Jean Parker
 Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:29 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: [AI] using a white cane

 Dear All:

 In reading the many postings about mobility, sighted guides and canes, it is
 apparent that many people on this list have never had any formal training in
 use of the white cane.  I am thinking of those who have posted who have
 become blind in adulthood or are from rural areas where blindness
 rehabilitation training has not been available.

 Of course there is no substitute for a structured program in rehab and
 adjustment to blindness as would be received from a formal rehabilitation
 center.  But there are documents that clearly articulate how a white cane is
 used and give detailed steps for learning, or improving cane technique.

 There is one such document on the National Federation of the Blind's web
 site called The Care and Feeding of the White Cane.  It is written for
 conditions that would be found in developed countries but is very applicable
 to our conditions in India.  It is on their web site as a series of
 documents by topic.  I do not think it is downloadable as a whole document.
 However, if enough people would find it helpful I am willing to piece it
 together in word and make it available as a printable document.  I could
 also make notations about variations in described techniques that would
 apply to our conditions.

 Again, this would not substitute for formal mobility training, but for
 people who have lost their vision and just need to get on with life perhaps
 it would be helpful.  Even though I have been a cane traveler for many years
 I always get something out of it every time I read it.  As a printed
 document it would also be available to reluctant family members and friends
 who really don't know how blind people manage independent travel.

 I would like to know if this document is something people would find of
 benefit?

 Jean

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Re: [AI] using a white cane

2011-09-28 Thread Anirban Mukherjee
Dear MR Jean,
i also would eagerly wait to have the document. please send it to me
as per your convenience.

with warm regards, Anirban Mukherjee

On 9/28/11, Swarna Lakshmi swarna.l2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I would also like to have the document.

 Regards,
 Swarna.

 On 9/28/11, jayant garg jayantgarg1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Greetings of the day
 I think it is a very good idea and I am also interested in having this
 document so please mail it to me also
 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Jean Parker
 Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:29 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: [AI] using a white cane

 Dear All:

 In reading the many postings about mobility, sighted guides and canes, it
 is
 apparent that many people on this list have never had any formal training
 in
 use of the white cane.  I am thinking of those who have posted who have
 become blind in adulthood or are from rural areas where blindness
 rehabilitation training has not been available.

 Of course there is no substitute for a structured program in rehab and
 adjustment to blindness as would be received from a formal rehabilitation
 center.  But there are documents that clearly articulate how a white cane
 is
 used and give detailed steps for learning, or improving cane technique.

 There is one such document on the National Federation of the Blind's web
 site called The Care and Feeding of the White Cane.  It is written for
 conditions that would be found in developed countries but is very
 applicable
 to our conditions in India.  It is on their web site as a series of
 documents by topic.  I do not think it is downloadable as a whole
 document.
 However, if enough people would find it helpful I am willing to piece it
 together in word and make it available as a printable document.  I could
 also make notations about variations in described techniques that would
 apply to our conditions.

 Again, this would not substitute for formal mobility training, but for
 people who have lost their vision and just need to get on with life
 perhaps
 it would be helpful.  Even though I have been a cane traveler for many
 years
 I always get something out of it every time I read it.  As a printed
 document it would also be available to reluctant family members and
 friends
 who really don't know how blind people manage independent travel.

 I would like to know if this document is something people would find of
 benefit?

 Jean

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Re: [AI] using a white cane

2011-09-28 Thread Kanchan Pamnani

Yes Jean it will be very useful for all of us.
We can circulate the word document either through drop box etc and we can 
give it to participants at the convention in November through pen drives and 
if its Ok with you then we can get it translated in Marathi braille for the 
rural readers. I have just heard of this magazine which has about 24000 
readers in Maharashtra. Other states can also decide what to do with the 
document.


Once ready it will definitely be very very useful just like your tips have 
been on this list. Thanks Kanchan

Kanchan
- Original Message - 
From: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:29 PM
Subject: [AI] using a white cane



Dear All:

In reading the many postings about mobility, sighted guides and canes, it 
is apparent that many people on this list have never had any formal 
training in use of the white cane.  I am thinking of those who have posted 
who have become blind in adulthood or are from rural areas where blindness 
rehabilitation training has not been available.


Of course there is no substitute for a structured program in rehab and 
adjustment to blindness as would be received from a formal rehabilitation 
center.  But there are documents that clearly articulate how a white cane 
is used and give detailed steps for learning, or improving cane technique.


There is one such document on the National Federation of the Blind's web 
site called The Care and Feeding of the White Cane.  It is written for 
conditions that would be found in developed countries but is very 
applicable to our conditions in India.  It is on their web site as a 
series of documents by topic.  I do not think it is downloadable as a 
whole document.  However, if enough people would find it helpful I am 
willing to piece it together in word and make it available as a printable 
document.  I could also make notations about variations in described 
techniques that would apply to our conditions.


Again, this would not substitute for formal mobility training, but for 
people who have lost their vision and just need to get on with life 
perhaps it would be helpful.  Even though I have been a cane traveler for 
many years I always get something out of it every time I read it.  As a 
printed document it would also be available to reluctant family members 
and friends who really don't know how blind people manage independent 
travel.


I would like to know if this document is something people would find of 
benefit?


Jean

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Re: [AI] using a white cane

2011-09-28 Thread Jean Parker

Kanchan:

Of course it can be translated into all the Indian Languages.  I have it 
compiled but just need to know where my notations should be.  Would they be 
more helpful at the beginning of the document or would it be better to put 
them in the sections to which they apply?


I will put it in a dropbox and post the link on Access India.  Then anyone 
who wants it can download it.


Jean

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To: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] using a white cane



Yes Jean it will be very useful for all of us.
We can circulate the word document either through drop box etc and we can 
give it to participants at the convention in November through pen drives 
and if its Ok with you then we can get it translated in Marathi braille 
for the rural readers. I have just heard of this magazine which has about 
24000 readers in Maharashtra. Other states can also decide what to do with 
the document.


Once ready it will definitely be very very useful just like your tips have 
been on this list. Thanks Kanchan

Kanchan
- Original Message - 
From: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:29 PM
Subject: [AI] using a white cane



Dear All:

In reading the many postings about mobility, sighted guides and canes, it 
is apparent that many people on this list have never had any formal 
training in use of the white cane.  I am thinking of those who have 
posted who have become blind in adulthood or are from rural areas where 
blindness rehabilitation training has not been available.


Of course there is no substitute for a structured program in rehab and 
adjustment to blindness as would be received from a formal rehabilitation 
center.  But there are documents that clearly articulate how a white cane 
is used and give detailed steps for learning, or improving cane 
technique.


There is one such document on the National Federation of the Blind's web 
site called The Care and Feeding of the White Cane.  It is written for 
conditions that would be found in developed countries but is very 
applicable to our conditions in India.  It is on their web site as a 
series of documents by topic.  I do not think it is downloadable as a 
whole document.  However, if enough people would find it helpful I am 
willing to piece it together in word and make it available as a printable 
document.  I could also make notations about variations in described 
techniques that would apply to our conditions.


Again, this would not substitute for formal mobility training, but for 
people who have lost their vision and just need to get on with life 
perhaps it would be helpful.  Even though I have been a cane traveler for 
many years I always get something out of it every time I read it.  As a 
printed document it would also be available to reluctant family members 
and friends who really don't know how blind people manage independent 
travel.


I would like to know if this document is something people would find of 
benefit?


Jean

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Re: [AI] using a white cane

2011-09-28 Thread Vamshi. G
Dear Jean Parker,

My suggestion is to put your thoughts in the sections to which they apply.

On 9/28/11, Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com wrote:
 Kanchan:

 Of course it can be translated into all the Indian Languages.  I have it
 compiled but just need to know where my notations should be.  Would they be
 more helpful at the beginning of the document or would it be better to put
 them in the sections to which they apply?

 I will put it in a dropbox and post the link on Access India.  Then anyone
 who wants it can download it.

 Jean

 - Original Message -
 From: Kanchan Pamnani kanchanpamn...@gmail.com
 To: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 8:46 AM
 Subject: Re: [AI] using a white cane


 Yes Jean it will be very useful for all of us.
 We can circulate the word document either through drop box etc and we can
 give it to participants at the convention in November through pen drives
 and if its Ok with you then we can get it translated in Marathi braille
 for the rural readers. I have just heard of this magazine which has about
 24000 readers in Maharashtra. Other states can also decide what to do with

 the document.

 Once ready it will definitely be very very useful just like your tips have

 been on this list. Thanks Kanchan
 Kanchan
 - Original Message -
 From: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:29 PM
 Subject: [AI] using a white cane


 Dear All:

 In reading the many postings about mobility, sighted guides and canes, it

 is apparent that many people on this list have never had any formal
 training in use of the white cane.  I am thinking of those who have
 posted who have become blind in adulthood or are from rural areas where
 blindness rehabilitation training has not been available.

 Of course there is no substitute for a structured program in rehab and
 adjustment to blindness as would be received from a formal rehabilitation

 center.  But there are documents that clearly articulate how a white cane

 is used and give detailed steps for learning, or improving cane
 technique.

 There is one such document on the National Federation of the Blind's web
 site called The Care and Feeding of the White Cane.  It is written for
 conditions that would be found in developed countries but is very
 applicable to our conditions in India.  It is on their web site as a
 series of documents by topic.  I do not think it is downloadable as a
 whole document.  However, if enough people would find it helpful I am
 willing to piece it together in word and make it available as a printable

 document.  I could also make notations about variations in described
 techniques that would apply to our conditions.

 Again, this would not substitute for formal mobility training, but for
 people who have lost their vision and just need to get on with life
 perhaps it would be helpful.  Even though I have been a cane traveler for

 many years I always get something out of it every time I read it.  As a
 printed document it would also be available to reluctant family members
 and friends who really don't know how blind people manage independent
 travel.

 I would like to know if this document is something people would find of
 benefit?

 Jean

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Re: [AI] using a white cane

2011-09-28 Thread Madhu Singhal

Dear Jean,
I am very happy to get this document so we can give it to people those who 
are comming to learn mobility.

Perhaps, it will help them in future.
- Original Message - 
From: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:29 PM
Subject: [AI] using a white cane



Dear All:

In reading the many postings about mobility, sighted guides and canes, it 
is apparent that many people on this list have never had any formal 
training in use of the white cane.  I am thinking of those who have posted 
who have become blind in adulthood or are from rural areas where blindness 
rehabilitation training has not been available.


Of course there is no substitute for a structured program in rehab and 
adjustment to blindness as would be received from a formal rehabilitation 
center.  But there are documents that clearly articulate how a white cane 
is used and give detailed steps for learning, or improving cane technique.


There is one such document on the National Federation of the Blind's web 
site called The Care and Feeding of the White Cane.  It is written for 
conditions that would be found in developed countries but is very 
applicable to our conditions in India.  It is on their web site as a 
series of documents by topic.  I do not think it is downloadable as a 
whole document.  However, if enough people would find it helpful I am 
willing to piece it together in word and make it available as a printable 
document.  I could also make notations about variations in described 
techniques that would apply to our conditions.


Again, this would not substitute for formal mobility training, but for 
people who have lost their vision and just need to get on with life 
perhaps it would be helpful.  Even though I have been a cane traveler for 
many years I always get something out of it every time I read it.  As a 
printed document it would also be available to reluctant family members 
and friends who really don't know how blind people manage independent 
travel.


I would like to know if this document is something people would find of 
benefit?


Jean

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[AI] using a white cane

2011-09-27 Thread Jean Parker
Dear All:

In reading the many postings about mobility, sighted guides and canes, it is 
apparent that many people on this list have never had any formal training in 
use of the white cane.  I am thinking of those who have posted who have become 
blind in adulthood or are from rural areas where blindness rehabilitation 
training has not been available.  

Of course there is no substitute for a structured program in rehab and 
adjustment to blindness as would be received from a formal rehabilitation 
center.  But there are documents that clearly articulate how a white cane is 
used and give detailed steps for learning, or improving cane technique.  

There is one such document on the National Federation of the Blind's web site 
called The Care and Feeding of the White Cane.  It is written for conditions 
that would be found in developed countries but is very applicable to our 
conditions in India.  It is on their web site as a series of documents by 
topic.  I do not think it is downloadable as a whole document.  However, if 
enough people would find it helpful I am willing to piece it together in word 
and make it available as a printable document.  I could also make notations 
about variations in described techniques that would apply to our conditions.  

Again, this would not substitute for formal mobility training, but for people 
who have lost their vision and just need to get on with life perhaps it would 
be helpful.  Even though I have been a cane traveler for many years I always 
get something out of it every time I read it.  As a printed document it would 
also be available to reluctant family members and friends who really don't know 
how blind people manage independent travel.

I would like to know if this document is something people would find of benefit?

Jean
  
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Re: [AI] using a white cane

2011-09-27 Thread payal
Hi Jean,

I've been following your mails on this topic very intently, but have not
commented so far as most of my sentiments have  more or less been expressed
by others. These have been clear, comprehensive and yes, very helpful. Being
an adult having faced vision loss, mobility has been the biggest and most
frustrating adjustment to make. Added to which I grapple with a partial
hearing loss which makes many techniques to be used on the noisy, busy
streets quite a challenge. Balance, audibility, following instructions and
asking for public help is quite a daunting task.

I think anything you could put up here would definitely help, not just us,
but as you said, the families that are helping a young child with blindness,
or an adult, the right step will be taken in the right way.

Any tips for a person with more than one disability like me? I have, though,
had some training a couple of years ago, but haven't really utilized my
aquired skills to its fullest.

Thanks again for the information.

Payal

-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Jean Parker
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:29 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] using a white cane

Dear All:

In reading the many postings about mobility, sighted guides and canes, it is
apparent that many people on this list have never had any formal training in
use of the white cane.  I am thinking of those who have posted who have
become blind in adulthood or are from rural areas where blindness
rehabilitation training has not been available.  

Of course there is no substitute for a structured program in rehab and
adjustment to blindness as would be received from a formal rehabilitation
center.  But there are documents that clearly articulate how a white cane is
used and give detailed steps for learning, or improving cane technique.  

There is one such document on the National Federation of the Blind's web
site called The Care and Feeding of the White Cane.  It is written for
conditions that would be found in developed countries but is very applicable
to our conditions in India.  It is on their web site as a series of
documents by topic.  I do not think it is downloadable as a whole document.
However, if enough people would find it helpful I am willing to piece it
together in word and make it available as a printable document.  I could
also make notations about variations in described techniques that would
apply to our conditions.  

Again, this would not substitute for formal mobility training, but for
people who have lost their vision and just need to get on with life perhaps
it would be helpful.  Even though I have been a cane traveler for many years
I always get something out of it every time I read it.  As a printed
document it would also be available to reluctant family members and friends
who really don't know how blind people manage independent travel.

I would like to know if this document is something people would find of
benefit?

Jean
  
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Re: [AI] using a white cane

2011-09-27 Thread Shreedhar TS.
Hi Mr. Jean, I am following this thread from the beginning, One of the
best discussion I have seen here. Your comments can change the
thinking of a VI childs/adults' parents. The document which you are
planning to put will be of much help. Please go ahead with it. It will
be helpful for many.

Thanks with expectation,

On 9/27/11, payal payal.thereside...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Jean,

 I've been following your mails on this topic very intently, but have not
 commented so far as most of my sentiments have  more or less been expressed
 by others. These have been clear, comprehensive and yes, very helpful. Being
 an adult having faced vision loss, mobility has been the biggest and most
 frustrating adjustment to make. Added to which I grapple with a partial
 hearing loss which makes many techniques to be used on the noisy, busy
 streets quite a challenge. Balance, audibility, following instructions and
 asking for public help is quite a daunting task.

 I think anything you could put up here would definitely help, not just us,
 but as you said, the families that are helping a young child with blindness,
 or an adult, the right step will be taken in the right way.

 Any tips for a person with more than one disability like me? I have, though,
 had some training a couple of years ago, but haven't really utilized my
 aquired skills to its fullest.

 Thanks again for the information.

 Payal

 -Original Message-
 From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
 [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Jean Parker
 Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:29 PM
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Subject: [AI] using a white cane

 Dear All:

 In reading the many postings about mobility, sighted guides and canes, it is
 apparent that many people on this list have never had any formal training in
 use of the white cane.  I am thinking of those who have posted who have
 become blind in adulthood or are from rural areas where blindness
 rehabilitation training has not been available.

 Of course there is no substitute for a structured program in rehab and
 adjustment to blindness as would be received from a formal rehabilitation
 center.  But there are documents that clearly articulate how a white cane is
 used and give detailed steps for learning, or improving cane technique.

 There is one such document on the National Federation of the Blind's web
 site called The Care and Feeding of the White Cane.  It is written for
 conditions that would be found in developed countries but is very applicable
 to our conditions in India.  It is on their web site as a series of
 documents by topic.  I do not think it is downloadable as a whole document.
 However, if enough people would find it helpful I am willing to piece it
 together in word and make it available as a printable document.  I could
 also make notations about variations in described techniques that would
 apply to our conditions.

 Again, this would not substitute for formal mobility training, but for
 people who have lost their vision and just need to get on with life perhaps
 it would be helpful.  Even though I have been a cane traveler for many years
 I always get something out of it every time I read it.  As a printed
 document it would also be available to reluctant family members and friends
 who really don't know how blind people manage independent travel.

 I would like to know if this document is something people would find of
 benefit?

 Jean

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Re: [AI] using a white cane

2011-09-27 Thread Amrit Pal

Of course, it would be very nice.
- Original Message - 
From: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:29 PM
Subject: [AI] using a white cane



Dear All:

In reading the many postings about mobility, sighted guides and canes, it 
is apparent that many people on this list have never had any formal 
training in use of the white cane.  I am thinking of those who have posted 
who have become blind in adulthood or are from rural areas where blindness 
rehabilitation training has not been available.


Of course there is no substitute for a structured program in rehab and 
adjustment to blindness as would be received from a formal rehabilitation 
center.  But there are documents that clearly articulate how a white cane 
is used and give detailed steps for learning, or improving cane technique.


There is one such document on the National Federation of the Blind's web 
site called The Care and Feeding of the White Cane.  It is written for 
conditions that would be found in developed countries but is very 
applicable to our conditions in India.  It is on their web site as a 
series of documents by topic.  I do not think it is downloadable as a 
whole document.  However, if enough people would find it helpful I am 
willing to piece it together in word and make it available as a printable 
document.  I could also make notations about variations in described 
techniques that would apply to our conditions.


Again, this would not substitute for formal mobility training, but for 
people who have lost their vision and just need to get on with life 
perhaps it would be helpful.  Even though I have been a cane traveler for 
many years I always get something out of it every time I read it.  As a 
printed document it would also be available to reluctant family members 
and friends who really don't know how blind people manage independent 
travel.


I would like to know if this document is something people would find of 
benefit?


Jean

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Re: [AI] using a white cane

2011-09-27 Thread Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
I think that's a great idea and things specific conditions and not
covered by the document can always be discussed later. It's really
unfortunate that formal mobility training in general and usage of cane
in particular has not been known to a considerable percentage of
members on the list. Perhaps it's an indication of general status of
the visually challenged people in India? Organizations in India need
to think about this alarming issue very seriously.

Vetri.

On 27/09/2011, Amrit Pal amritpa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Of course, it would be very nice.
 - Original Message -
 From: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:29 PM
 Subject: [AI] using a white cane


 Dear All:

 In reading the many postings about mobility, sighted guides and canes, it
 is apparent that many people on this list have never had any formal
 training in use of the white cane.  I am thinking of those who have posted

 who have become blind in adulthood or are from rural areas where blindness

 rehabilitation training has not been available.

 Of course there is no substitute for a structured program in rehab and
 adjustment to blindness as would be received from a formal rehabilitation
 center.  But there are documents that clearly articulate how a white cane
 is used and give detailed steps for learning, or improving cane technique.

 There is one such document on the National Federation of the Blind's web
 site called The Care and Feeding of the White Cane.  It is written for
 conditions that would be found in developed countries but is very
 applicable to our conditions in India.  It is on their web site as a
 series of documents by topic.  I do not think it is downloadable as a
 whole document.  However, if enough people would find it helpful I am
 willing to piece it together in word and make it available as a printable
 document.  I could also make notations about variations in described
 techniques that would apply to our conditions.

 Again, this would not substitute for formal mobility training, but for
 people who have lost their vision and just need to get on with life
 perhaps it would be helpful.  Even though I have been a cane traveler for
 many years I always get something out of it every time I read it.  As a
 printed document it would also be available to reluctant family members
 and friends who really don't know how blind people manage independent
 travel.

 I would like to know if this document is something people would find of
 benefit?

 Jean

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Re: [AI] using a white cane

2011-09-27 Thread Balaram

Dear Jean,
please please come up with a word document so all of the white cane 
users as well as the one who wish to use it can be benefited.
I don't think, attachment is permitted in this list and if so, please 
provide  a link or post it to those who needs it in their Personal Email 
IDS.


You can write to me if you please in my personal ID that is,
chess.bala...@gmail.com

Regards,

P. Balaraman.






On 9/27/2011 9:59 AM, Jean Parker wrote:

Dear All:

In reading the many postings about mobility, sighted guides and canes, it is 
apparent that many people on this list have never had any formal training in 
use of the white cane.  I am thinking of those who have posted who have become 
blind in adulthood or are from rural areas where blindness rehabilitation 
training has not been available.

Of course there is no substitute for a structured program in rehab and 
adjustment to blindness as would be received from a formal rehabilitation 
center.  But there are documents that clearly articulate how a white cane is 
used and give detailed steps for learning, or improving cane technique.

There is one such document on the National Federation of the Blind's web site called 
The Care and Feeding of the White Cane.  It is written for conditions that 
would be found in developed countries but is very applicable to our conditions in India.  
It is on their web site as a series of documents by topic.  I do not think it is 
downloadable as a whole document.  However, if enough people would find it helpful I am 
willing to piece it together in word and make it available as a printable document.  I 
could also make notations about variations in described techniques that would apply to 
our conditions.

Again, this would not substitute for formal mobility training, but for people 
who have lost their vision and just need to get on with life perhaps it would 
be helpful.  Even though I have been a cane traveler for many years I always 
get something out of it every time I read it.  As a printed document it would 
also be available to reluctant family members and friends who really don't know 
how blind people manage independent travel.

I would like to know if this document is something people would find of benefit?

Jean

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Re: [AI] using a white cane

2011-09-27 Thread BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA
how will your mail reach to those blind people, who are living in rural 
area.


- Original Message - 
From: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com

To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:29 PM
Subject: [AI] using a white cane



Dear All:

In reading the many postings about mobility, sighted guides and canes, it 
is apparent that many people on this list have never had any formal 
training in use of the white cane.  I am thinking of those who have posted 
who have become blind in adulthood or are from rural areas where blindness 
rehabilitation training has not been available.


Of course there is no substitute for a structured program in rehab and 
adjustment to blindness as would be received from a formal rehabilitation 
center.  But there are documents that clearly articulate how a white cane 
is used and give detailed steps for learning, or improving cane technique.


There is one such document on the National Federation of the Blind's web 
site called The Care and Feeding of the White Cane.  It is written for 
conditions that would be found in developed countries but is very 
applicable to our conditions in India.  It is on their web site as a 
series of documents by topic.  I do not think it is downloadable as a 
whole document.  However, if enough people would find it helpful I am 
willing to piece it together in word and make it available as a printable 
document.  I could also make notations about variations in described 
techniques that would apply to our conditions.


Again, this would not substitute for formal mobility training, but for 
people who have lost their vision and just need to get on with life 
perhaps it would be helpful.  Even though I have been a cane traveler for 
many years I always get something out of it every time I read it.  As a 
printed document it would also be available to reluctant family members 
and friends who really don't know how blind people manage independent 
travel.


I would like to know if this document is something people would find of 
benefit?


Jean

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Re: [AI] using a white cane

2011-09-27 Thread George Abraham
Hi Jean,

A great idea. It would really be nice  if you could put that document 
together and share  it with us.  We can serialise the content into small 
audio modules and share the same on the Eyeway radio shows.

Best,

George
- Original Message - 
From: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:29 PM
Subject: [AI] using a white cane


Dear All:

In reading the many postings about mobility, sighted guides and canes, it is 
apparent that many people on this list have never had any formal training in 
use of the white cane.  I am thinking of those who have posted who have 
become blind in adulthood or are from rural areas where blindness 
rehabilitation training has not been available.

Of course there is no substitute for a structured program in rehab and 
adjustment to blindness as would be received from a formal rehabilitation 
center.  But there are documents that clearly articulate how a white cane is 
used and give detailed steps for learning, or improving cane technique.

There is one such document on the National Federation of the Blind's web 
site called The Care and Feeding of the White Cane.  It is written for 
conditions that would be found in developed countries but is very applicable 
to our conditions in India.  It is on their web site as a series of 
documents by topic.  I do not think it is downloadable as a whole document. 
However, if enough people would find it helpful I am willing to piece it 
together in word and make it available as a printable document.  I could 
also make notations about variations in described techniques that would 
apply to our conditions.

Again, this would not substitute for formal mobility training, but for 
people who have lost their vision and just need to get on with life perhaps 
it would be helpful.  Even though I have been a cane traveler for many years 
I always get something out of it every time I read it.  As a printed 
document it would also be available to reluctant family members and friends 
who really don't know how blind people manage independent travel.

I would like to know if this document is something people would find of 
benefit?

Jean

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Re: [AI] using a white cane

2011-09-27 Thread Ajay Minocha
Hi jean Mam
please do the need full thing as soon as posible
I will be quriously waiting for that
regards

On 9/28/11, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA bsvermad...@gmail.com wrote:
 how will your mail reach to those blind people, who are living in rural
 area.

 - Original Message -
 From: Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com
 To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:29 PM
 Subject: [AI] using a white cane


 Dear All:

 In reading the many postings about mobility, sighted guides and canes, it
 is apparent that many people on this list have never had any formal
 training in use of the white cane.  I am thinking of those who have posted

 who have become blind in adulthood or are from rural areas where blindness

 rehabilitation training has not been available.

 Of course there is no substitute for a structured program in rehab and
 adjustment to blindness as would be received from a formal rehabilitation
 center.  But there are documents that clearly articulate how a white cane
 is used and give detailed steps for learning, or improving cane technique.

 There is one such document on the National Federation of the Blind's web
 site called The Care and Feeding of the White Cane.  It is written for
 conditions that would be found in developed countries but is very
 applicable to our conditions in India.  It is on their web site as a
 series of documents by topic.  I do not think it is downloadable as a
 whole document.  However, if enough people would find it helpful I am
 willing to piece it together in word and make it available as a printable
 document.  I could also make notations about variations in described
 techniques that would apply to our conditions.

 Again, this would not substitute for formal mobility training, but for
 people who have lost their vision and just need to get on with life
 perhaps it would be helpful.  Even though I have been a cane traveler for
 many years I always get something out of it every time I read it.  As a
 printed document it would also be available to reluctant family members
 and friends who really don't know how blind people manage independent
 travel.

 I would like to know if this document is something people would find of
 benefit?

 Jean

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Re: [AI] using a white cane

2011-09-27 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
Yes, Jean, please.


-Original Message-
From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in 
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Balaram
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:46 AM
To: Jean Parker; accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] using a white cane

Dear Jean,
please please come up with a word document so all of the white cane
users as well as the one who wish to use it can be benefited.
I don't think, attachment is permitted in this list and if so, please
provide  a link or post it to those who needs it in their Personal Email
IDS.

You can write to me if you please in my personal ID that is,
chess.bala...@gmail.com

Regards,

P. Balaraman.






On 9/27/2011 9:59 AM, Jean Parker wrote:
 Dear All:

 In reading the many postings about mobility, sighted guides and canes, it is 
 apparent that many people on this list have never had any formal training in 
 use of the white cane.  I am thinking of those who have posted who have 
 become blind in adulthood or are from rural areas where blindness 
 rehabilitation training has not been available.

 Of course there is no substitute for a structured program in rehab and 
 adjustment to blindness as would be received from a formal rehabilitation 
 center.  But there are documents that clearly articulate how a white cane is 
 used and give detailed steps for learning, or improving cane technique.

 There is one such document on the National Federation of the Blind's web site 
 called The Care and Feeding of the White Cane.  It is written for 
 conditions that would be found in developed countries but is very applicable 
 to our conditions in India.  It is on their web site as a series of documents 
 by topic.  I do not think it is downloadable as a whole document.  However, 
 if enough people would find it helpful I am willing to piece it together in 
 word and make it available as a printable document.  I could also make 
 notations about variations in described techniques that would apply to our 
 conditions.

 Again, this would not substitute for formal mobility training, but for people 
 who have lost their vision and just need to get on with life perhaps it would 
 be helpful.  Even though I have been a cane traveler for many years I always 
 get something out of it every time I read it.  As a printed document it would 
 also be available to reluctant family members and friends who really don't 
 know how blind people manage independent travel.

 I would like to know if this document is something people would find of 
 benefit?

 Jean

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Re: [AI] using a white cane

2011-09-27 Thread Phen Varghese
Dear Jean,

I would also like to have that document.
Can you send it to my mail?
You can send it as a attached file to my mail.

With regards,

Phen Varghese

On 9/27/11, Jean Parker radiofore...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear All:

 In reading the many postings about mobility, sighted guides and canes, it is
 apparent that many people on this list have never had any formal training in
 use of the white cane.  I am thinking of those who have posted who have
 become blind in adulthood or are from rural areas where blindness
 rehabilitation training has not been available.

 Of course there is no substitute for a structured program in rehab and
 adjustment to blindness as would be received from a formal rehabilitation
 center.  But there are documents that clearly articulate how a white cane is
 used and give detailed steps for learning, or improving cane technique.

 There is one such document on the National Federation of the Blind's web
 site called The Care and Feeding of the White Cane.  It is written for
 conditions that would be found in developed countries but is very applicable
 to our conditions in India.  It is on their web site as a series of
 documents by topic.  I do not think it is downloadable as a whole document.
 However, if enough people would find it helpful I am willing to piece it
 together in word and make it available as a printable document.  I could
 also make notations about variations in described techniques that would
 apply to our conditions.

 Again, this would not substitute for formal mobility training, but for
 people who have lost their vision and just need to get on with life perhaps
 it would be helpful.  Even though I have been a cane traveler for many years
 I always get something out of it every time I read it.  As a printed
 document it would also be available to reluctant family members and friends
 who really don't know how blind people manage independent travel.

 I would like to know if this document is something people would find of
 benefit?

 Jean

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