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Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

2023-03-13 Thread Harshit Lohia

Hi,
Besides accessibility of Parliament building, accessibility of offices
and websites of political parties should also be pitched. It can also
be requested that excellent achievers (particularly among blind
community) should be invited to parliament house at special ocasions
and facilitated for their extraordinary achievements.

On 3/13/23, 'PAUL   MUDDHA' via AccessIndia
 wrote:
> I don't think that any parliamentarian for that matter Derrick O' Brien or
> any party would give up their position or surrender the reservation ment for
> anglo indian community.
> It would be better to ask for a separate reservation for differently abled
> in the parliament..
> Best
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On
> Behalf Of Shakul Sonker
> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2023 1:43 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for
> inputs
>
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>
> @Dilip, couldn't agree more. I'm wondering what kind of impact Dr.
> Tharoor can even bring being in the opposition with no power other than
> bringing a private member bill. Having said that, given my limited knowledge
> in this domain I could be wrong.
>
> Best,
> -Shakul
>
> On 13/03/2023, dilip Chauhan  wrote:
>> We should try to meet such a parliamentarian who could make some
>> difference I would like to stay that the party who is in the
>> government
>>
>> Dilip Chauhan
>>
>> On Mon, 13 Mar, 2023, 1:33 pm George Abraham,
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Alongside meeting with Shashi Tharoor on the subject of Parliament
>>> representation, maybe we should also meet up with Derrick.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
>>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in] *On Behalf Of *Payal Ki Jhankar
>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2023 1:10 PM
>>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March:
>>> request for inputs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Harish,
>>>
>>> I think Derrick O'Brien Will have something to say about replacing
>>> Anglo Indians with anybody else!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 at 9:01 AM, Harish Kotian 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> All
>>>
>>> To take the thought process, forward, The nomination to Rajya Sabha
>>> for Anglo-Indian should be replaced with Disabled persons
>>> asAnglo-Indian persons is really not relevant presently. The change
>>> will not have any negative repercussions on any political parties.
>>> All that is required is a nudge.
>>>
>>> Harish
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Forwarded Message 
>>>
>>> *Subject: *
>>>
>>> Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for
>>> inputs
>>>
>>> *Date: *
>>>
>>> Sun, 12 Mar 2023 22:58:44 +0530
>>>
>>> *From: *
>>>
>>> Avichal Bhatnagar  
>>>
>>> *Reply-To: *
>>>
>>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>
>>> *To: *
>>>
>>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Rahul,
>>> I think, Dr. Tharoor can be requested to bring a private member bill
>>> on reserving certain seats for the disabled in Lok Sabha, and
>>> securing some representation in nominations to the Rajya Sabha.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/12/23, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I think that representation of disabled in parliament will nothing
>>> to do. in past we had MPs from disabled cummunity, but, there was no
>>> change.
>>>
>>> also it is my opinion that we should focus on blind particular not on
>>> disabled in general. it is wwitnessed that in past most of the
>>> movement started by blind individuals, groups or NGOs, but, the
>>> benifit has gone to other disability in majority.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/12/2023 8:31 PM, George Abraham wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Rahul,
>>>
>>> You could ask him as to what he can do to try and get representation
>>> for  Persons With Disability in the Parliament. To begin with maybe
>>> the Rajya Sabha
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> George
>>>
>>> *From:*accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> ] *On Behalf Of
>>> *vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2023 6:14 PM
>>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> *Subject:* RE: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March:
>>> request for inputs
>>>
>>> I too think that audio description has little importance as the
>>> statements and not visual posture of the legislators are of importance.
>>>
>>> Though parliament website is mostly accessible but scanned copies of
>>> statements in the parliament library sometimes create problem.
>>>
>>> When I open the link “papers laid”, somehow Jaws gets silent as I go
>>> in the table where list of papers are given.
>>>
>>> Not discovered much though.
>>>
>>> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>   *On
>>> Behalf Of *Muhammad Mishbahul
>>> *Sent:* 12 March 2023 03:36 PM
>>> *To:*

RE: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

2023-03-13 Thread 'PAUL MUDDHA' via AccessIndia

I don't think that any parliamentarian for that matter Derrick O' Brien or any 
party would give up their position or surrender the reservation ment for anglo 
indian community.
It would be better to ask for a separate reservation for differently abled in 
the parliament..
Best


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Sent: Monday, March 13, 2023 1:43 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
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@Dilip, couldn't agree more. I'm wondering what kind of impact Dr.
Tharoor can even bring being in the opposition with no power other than 
bringing a private member bill. Having said that, given my limited knowledge in 
this domain I could be wrong.

Best,
-Shakul

On 13/03/2023, dilip Chauhan  wrote:
> We should try to meet such a parliamentarian who could make some
> difference I would like to stay that the party who is in the
> government
>
> Dilip Chauhan
>
> On Mon, 13 Mar, 2023, 1:33 pm George Abraham,
> 
> wrote:
>
>> Alongside meeting with Shashi Tharoor on the subject of Parliament
>> representation, maybe we should also meet up with Derrick.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in] *On Behalf Of *Payal Ki Jhankar
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2023 1:10 PM
>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March:
>> request for inputs
>>
>>
>>
>> Harish,
>>
>> I think Derrick O'Brien Will have something to say about replacing
>> Anglo Indians with anybody else!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 at 9:01 AM, Harish Kotian 
>> wrote:
>>
>> All
>>
>> To take the thought process, forward, The nomination to Rajya Sabha
>> for Anglo-Indian should be replaced with Disabled persons
>> asAnglo-Indian persons is really not relevant presently. The change
>> will not have any negative repercussions on any political parties.
>> All that is required is a nudge.
>>
>> Harish
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Forwarded Message 
>>
>> *Subject: *
>>
>> Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for
>> inputs
>>
>> *Date: *
>>
>> Sun, 12 Mar 2023 22:58:44 +0530
>>
>> *From: *
>>
>> Avichal Bhatnagar  
>>
>> *Reply-To: *
>>
>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>
>> *To: *
>>
>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Rahul,
>> I think, Dr. Tharoor can be requested to bring a private member bill
>> on reserving certain seats for the disabled in Lok Sabha, and
>> securing some representation in nominations to the Rajya Sabha.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/12/23, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I think that representation of disabled in parliament will nothing
>> to do. in past we had MPs from disabled cummunity, but, there was no
>> change.
>>
>> also it is my opinion that we should focus on blind particular not on
>> disabled in general. it is wwitnessed that in past most of the
>> movement started by blind individuals, groups or NGOs, but, the
>> benifit has gone to other disability in majority.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/12/2023 8:31 PM, George Abraham wrote:
>>
>>
>> Rahul,
>>
>> You could ask him as to what he can do to try and get representation
>> for  Persons With Disability in the Parliament. To begin with maybe
>> the Rajya Sabha
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> George
>>
>> *From:*accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> ] *On Behalf Of
>> *vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2023 6:14 PM
>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> *Subject:* RE: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March:
>> request for inputs
>>
>> I too think that audio description has little importance as the
>> statements and not visual posture of the legislators are of importance.
>>
>> Though parliament website is mostly accessible but scanned copies of
>> statements in the parliament library sometimes create problem.
>>
>> When I open the link “papers laid”, somehow Jaws gets silent as I go
>> in the table where list of papers are given.
>>
>> Not discovered much though.
>>
>> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>   *On
>> Behalf Of *Muhammad Mishbahul
>> *Sent:* 12 March 2023 03:36 PM
>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March:
>> request for inputs
>>
>> I don’t think that audio description will be much help in the
>> proceedings of parliament as it is already about debates, speeches,
>> and auditory things. They emphasis should be much more on digital and
>> physical accessibility. We should also push about
>> representation/nomination of. Disable members in the legislative houses.
>>
>>   Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 12-Mar-2023, at 10:19 AM, Jai Krishna 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 at

Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

2023-03-13 Thread Shakul Sonker

@Dilip, couldn't agree more. I'm wondering what kind of impact Dr.
Tharoor can even bring being in the opposition with no power other
than bringing a private member bill. Having said that, given my
limited knowledge in this domain I could be wrong.

Best,
-Shakul

On 13/03/2023, dilip Chauhan  wrote:
> We should try to meet such a parliamentarian who could make some difference
> I would like to stay that the party who is in the government
>
> Dilip Chauhan
>
> On Mon, 13 Mar, 2023, 1:33 pm George Abraham, 
> wrote:
>
>> Alongside meeting with Shashi Tharoor on the subject of Parliament
>> representation, maybe we should also meet up with Derrick.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in] *On Behalf Of *Payal Ki Jhankar
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2023 1:10 PM
>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request
>> for inputs
>>
>>
>>
>> Harish,
>>
>> I think Derrick O'Brien Will have something to say about replacing Anglo
>> Indians with anybody else!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 at 9:01 AM, Harish Kotian 
>> wrote:
>>
>> All
>>
>> To take the thought process, forward, The nomination to Rajya Sabha for
>> Anglo-Indian should be replaced with Disabled persons asAnglo-Indian
>> persons is really not relevant presently. The change will not have any
>> negative repercussions on any political parties. All that is required is
>> a
>> nudge.
>>
>> Harish
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Forwarded Message 
>>
>> *Subject: *
>>
>> Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs
>>
>> *Date: *
>>
>> Sun, 12 Mar 2023 22:58:44 +0530
>>
>> *From: *
>>
>> Avichal Bhatnagar  
>>
>> *Reply-To: *
>>
>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>
>> *To: *
>>
>> accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Rahul,
>> I think, Dr. Tharoor can be requested to bring a private member bill
>> on reserving certain seats for the disabled in Lok Sabha, and securing
>> some representation in nominations to the Rajya Sabha.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/12/23, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I think that representation of disabled in parliament will nothing
>> to do. in past we had MPs from disabled cummunity, but, there was no
>> change.
>>
>> also it is my opinion that we should focus on blind particular not on
>> disabled in general. it is wwitnessed that in past most of the movement
>> started by blind individuals, groups or NGOs, but, the benifit has gone
>> to other disability in majority.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/12/2023 8:31 PM, George Abraham wrote:
>>
>>
>> Rahul,
>>
>> You could ask him as to what he can do to try and get representation
>> for  Persons With Disability in the Parliament. To begin with maybe
>> the Rajya Sabha
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> George
>>
>> *From:*accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in ]
>> *On Behalf Of
>> *vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2023 6:14 PM
>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> *Subject:* RE: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March:
>> request for inputs
>>
>> I too think that audio description has little importance as the
>> statements and not visual posture of the legislators are of importance.
>>
>> Though parliament website is mostly accessible but scanned copies of
>> statements in the parliament library sometimes create problem.
>>
>> When I open the link “papers laid”, somehow Jaws gets silent as I go
>> in the table where list of papers are given.
>>
>> Not discovered much though.
>>
>> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>   *On
>> Behalf Of *Muhammad Mishbahul
>> *Sent:* 12 March 2023 03:36 PM
>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March:
>> request for inputs
>>
>> I don’t think that audio description will be much help in the
>> proceedings of parliament as it is already about debates, speeches,
>> and auditory things. They emphasis should be much more on digital and
>> physical accessibility. We should also push about
>> representation/nomination of. Disable members in the legislative houses.
>>
>>   Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 12-Mar-2023, at 10:19 AM, Jai Krishna
>>   wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 at 10:10 AM, Mission Accessibility
>>   wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Good morning. After much effort, I have managed to secure a
>> meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March. The immediate
>> trigger for this meeting is his observations about Parliament
>> not being disabled friendly and an article that I wrote on the
>> subject in the Indian express. In the meeting, I would like to
>> discuss with him concrete pathways for making Parliament and
>> its proceedings more disabled friendly. I would like to invite
>> your suggestions on what issues I should discuss with him.
>> This is what I have in mind at present:
>>
>> First,  Ensuring that proceedings in Parliament or accompanied
>> by sign language

Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

2023-03-13 Thread dilip Chauhan

We should try to meet such a parliamentarian who could make some difference
I would like to stay that the party who is in the government

Dilip Chauhan

On Mon, 13 Mar, 2023, 1:33 pm George Abraham, 
wrote:

> Alongside meeting with Shashi Tharoor on the subject of Parliament
> representation, maybe we should also meet up with Derrick.
>
>
>
> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:
> accessindia@accessindia.org.in] *On Behalf Of *Payal Ki Jhankar
> *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2023 1:10 PM
> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request
> for inputs
>
>
>
> Harish,
>
> I think Derrick O'Brien Will have something to say about replacing Anglo
> Indians with anybody else!
>
>
>
> On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 at 9:01 AM, Harish Kotian 
> wrote:
>
> All
>
> To take the thought process, forward, The nomination to Rajya Sabha for
> Anglo-Indian should be replaced with Disabled persons asAnglo-Indian
> persons is really not relevant presently. The change will not have any
> negative repercussions on any political parties. All that is required is a
> nudge.
>
> Harish
>
>
>
>
>
>  Forwarded Message 
>
> *Subject: *
>
> Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs
>
> *Date: *
>
> Sun, 12 Mar 2023 22:58:44 +0530
>
> *From: *
>
> Avichal Bhatnagar  
>
> *Reply-To: *
>
> accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>
> *To: *
>
> accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>
>
>
> Hi Rahul,
> I think, Dr. Tharoor can be requested to bring a private member bill
> on reserving certain seats for the disabled in Lok Sabha, and securing
> some representation in nominations to the Rajya Sabha.
>
>
>
>
> On 3/12/23, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA 
>  wrote:
>
> I think that representation of disabled in parliament will nothing
> to do. in past we had MPs from disabled cummunity, but, there was no
> change.
>
> also it is my opinion that we should focus on blind particular not on
> disabled in general. it is wwitnessed that in past most of the movement
> started by blind individuals, groups or NGOs, but, the benifit has gone
> to other disability in majority.
>
>
>
>
> On 3/12/2023 8:31 PM, George Abraham wrote:
>
>
> Rahul,
>
> You could ask him as to what he can do to try and get representation
> for  Persons With Disability in the Parliament. To begin with maybe
> the Rajya Sabha
>
> Best,
>
> George
>
> *From:*accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in ]
> *On Behalf Of
> *vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2023 6:14 PM
> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> *Subject:* RE: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March:
> request for inputs
>
> I too think that audio description has little importance as the
> statements and not visual posture of the legislators are of importance.
>
> Though parliament website is mostly accessible but scanned copies of
> statements in the parliament library sometimes create problem.
>
> When I open the link “papers laid”, somehow Jaws gets silent as I go
> in the table where list of papers are given.
>
> Not discovered much though.
>
> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>   *On
> Behalf Of *Muhammad Mishbahul
> *Sent:* 12 March 2023 03:36 PM
> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March:
> request for inputs
>
> I don’t think that audio description will be much help in the
> proceedings of parliament as it is already about debates, speeches,
> and auditory things. They emphasis should be much more on digital and
> physical accessibility. We should also push about
> representation/nomination of. Disable members in the legislative houses.
>
>   Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 12-Mar-2023, at 10:19 AM, Jai Krishna
>   wrote:
>
> 
>
> On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 at 10:10 AM, Mission Accessibility
>   wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Good morning. After much effort, I have managed to secure a
> meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March. The immediate
> trigger for this meeting is his observations about Parliament
> not being disabled friendly and an article that I wrote on the
> subject in the Indian express. In the meeting, I would like to
> discuss with him concrete pathways for making Parliament and
> its proceedings more disabled friendly. I would like to invite
> your suggestions on what issues I should discuss with him.
> This is what I have in mind at present:
>
> First,  Ensuring that proceedings in Parliament or accompanied
> by sign language interpretation and audio description. At
> least the most important ones to begin with.
>
> Second, setting up a committee that is tasked with addressing
> all Accessibility related needs in Parliament, as has been
> done by the Supreme Court recently.
>
> Third, conducting an audit of the physical infrastructure and
> website of the Parliament.
>
> Let me know if you have any other inputs.
>
> Rahul
>
> Sent from Outlook for iOS

RE: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

2023-03-13 Thread George Abraham

Alongside meeting with Shashi Tharoor on the subject of Parliament 
representation, maybe we should also meet up with Derrick.

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of Payal Ki Jhankar
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2023 1:10 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for 
inputs

Harish,

I think Derrick O'Brien Will have something to say about replacing Anglo 
Indians with anybody else! 

On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 at 9:01 AM, Harish Kotian  wrote:

All

To take the thought process, forward, The nomination to Rajya Sabha for 
Anglo-Indian should be replaced with Disabled persons asAnglo-Indian persons is 
really not relevant presently. The change will not have any negative 
repercussions on any political parties. All that is required is a nudge.

Harish

 Forwarded Message  

Subject: 

Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

Date: 

Sun, 12 Mar 2023 22:58:44 +0530

From: 

Avichal Bhatnagar   

Reply-To: 

accessindia@accessindia.org.in

To: 

accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Hi Rahul,
I think, Dr. Tharoor can be requested to bring a private member bill
on reserving certain seats for the disabled in Lok Sabha, and securing
some representation in nominations to the Rajya Sabha.

On 3/12/23, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA   
 wrote:

I think that representation of disabled in parliament will nothing
to do. in past we had MPs from disabled cummunity, but, there was no
change.

also it is my opinion that we should focus on blind particular not on
disabled in general. it is wwitnessed that in past most of the movement
started by blind individuals, groups or NGOs, but, the benifit has gone
to other disability in majority.

On 3/12/2023 8:31 PM, George Abraham wrote:

Rahul,

You could ask him as to what he can do to try and get representation
for  Persons With Disability in the Parliament. To begin with maybe
the Rajya Sabha

Best,

George

*From:*accessindia@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] *On Behalf Of
*vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2023 6:14 PM
*To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
*Subject:* RE: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March:
request for inputs

I too think that audio description has little importance as the
statements and not visual posture of the legislators are of importance.

Though parliament website is mostly accessible but scanned copies of
statements in the parliament library sometimes create problem.

When I open the link “papers laid”, somehow Jaws gets silent as I go
in the table where list of papers are given.

Not discovered much though.

*From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
   *On 
Behalf Of *Muhammad Mishbahul
*Sent:* 12 March 2023 03:36 PM
*To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
*Subject:* Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March:
request for inputs

I don’t think that audio description will be much help in the
proceedings of parliament as it is already about debates, speeches,
and auditory things. They emphasis should be much more on digital and
physical accessibility. We should also push about
representation/nomination of. Disable members in the legislative houses.

  Sent from my iPhone

On 12-Mar-2023, at 10:19 AM, Jai Krishna
   wrote:

On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 at 10:10 AM, Mission Accessibility
   wrote:

Hi all,

Good morning. After much effort, I have managed to secure a
meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March. The immediate
trigger for this meeting is his observations about Parliament
not being disabled friendly and an article that I wrote on the
subject in the Indian express. In the meeting, I would like to
discuss with him concrete pathways for making Parliament and
its proceedings more disabled friendly. I would like to invite
your suggestions on what issues I should discuss with him.
This is what I have in mind at present:

First,  Ensuring that proceedings in Parliament or accompanied
by sign language interpretation and audio description. At
least the most important ones to begin with.

Second, setting up a committee that is tasked with addressing
all Accessibility related needs in Parliament, as has been
done by the Supreme Court recently.

Third, conducting an audit of the physical infrastructure and
website of the Parliament.

Let me know if you have any other inputs.

Rahul

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2023-03-13 Thread Anand Kumar

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On 13/03/2023, Payal Ki Jhankar  wrote:
> Harish,
> I think Derrick O'Brien Will have something to say about replacing Anglo
> Indians with anybody else!
>
> On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 at 9:01 AM, Harish Kotian  wrote:
>
>> All
>>
>> To take the thought process, forward, The nomination to Rajya Sabha for
>> Anglo-Indian should be replaced with Disabled persons asAnglo-Indian
>> persons is really not relevant presently. The change will not have any
>> negative repercussions on any political parties. All that is required is
>> a
>> nudge.
>>
>> Harish
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Forwarded Message 
>> Subject: Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request
>> for inputs
>> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2023 22:58:44 +0530
>> From: Avichal Bhatnagar  
>> Reply-To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>
>>
>> Hi Rahul,
>> I think, Dr. Tharoor can be requested to bring a private member bill
>> on reserving certain seats for the disabled in Lok Sabha, and securing
>> some representation in nominations to the Rajya Sabha.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/12/23, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I think that representation of disabled in parliament will nothing
>> to do. in past we had MPs from disabled cummunity, but, there was no
>> change.
>>
>> also it is my opinion that we should focus on blind particular not on
>> disabled in general. it is wwitnessed that in past most of the movement
>> started by blind individuals, groups or NGOs, but, the benifit has gone
>> to other disability in majority.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/12/2023 8:31 PM, George Abraham wrote:
>>
>>
>> Rahul,
>>
>> You could ask him as to what he can do to try and get representation
>> for  Persons With Disability in the Parliament. To begin with maybe
>> the Rajya Sabha
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> George
>>
>> *From:*accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in ]
>> *On Behalf Of
>> *vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2023 6:14 PM
>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> *Subject:* RE: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March:
>> request for inputs
>>
>> I too think that audio description has little importance as the
>> statements and not visual posture of the legislators are of importance.
>>
>> Though parliament website is mostly accessible but scanned copies of
>> statements in the parliament library sometimes create problem.
>>
>> When I open the link “papers laid”, somehow Jaws gets silent as I go
>> in the table where list of papers are given.
>>
>> Not discovered much though.
>>
>> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>   *On
>> Behalf Of *Muhammad Mishbahul
>> *Sent:* 12 March 2023 03:36 PM
>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March:
>> request for inputs
>>
>> I don’t think that audio description will be much help in the
>> proceedings of parliament as it is already about debates, speeches,
>> and auditory things. They emphasis should be much more on digital and
>> physical accessibility. We should also push about
>> representation/nomination of. Disable members in the legislative houses.
>>
>>   Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 12-Mar-2023, at 10:19 AM, Jai Krishna
>>   wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 at 10:10 AM, Mission Accessibility
>>   wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Good morning. After much effort, I have managed to secure a
>> meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March. The immediate
>> trigger for this meeting is his observations about Parliament
>> not being disabled friendly and an article that I wrote on the
>> subject in the Indian express. In the meeting, I would like to
>> discuss with him concrete pathways for making Parliament and
>> its proceedings more disabled friendly. I would like to invite
>> your suggestions on what issues I should discuss with him.
>> This is what I have in mind at present:
>>
>> First,  Ensuring that proceedings in Parliament or accompanied
>> by sign language interpretation and audio description. At
>> least the most important ones to begin with.
>>
>> Second, setting up a committee that is tasked with addressing
>> all Accessibility related needs in Parliament, as has been
>> done by the Supreme Court recently.
>>
>> Third, conducting an audit of the physical infrastructure and
>> website of the Parliament.
>>
>> Let me know if you have any other inputs.
>>
>> Rahul
>>
>> Sent from Outlook for iOS  
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Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

2023-03-13 Thread Payal Ki Jhankar

Harish,
I think Derrick O'Brien Will have something to say about replacing Anglo
Indians with anybody else!

On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 at 9:01 AM, Harish Kotian  wrote:

> All
>
> To take the thought process, forward, The nomination to Rajya Sabha for
> Anglo-Indian should be replaced with Disabled persons asAnglo-Indian
> persons is really not relevant presently. The change will not have any
> negative repercussions on any political parties. All that is required is a
> nudge.
>
> Harish
>
>
>
>
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject: Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request
> for inputs
> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2023 22:58:44 +0530
> From: Avichal Bhatnagar  
> Reply-To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>
>
> Hi Rahul,
> I think, Dr. Tharoor can be requested to bring a private member bill
> on reserving certain seats for the disabled in Lok Sabha, and securing
> some representation in nominations to the Rajya Sabha.
>
>
>
>
> On 3/12/23, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA 
>  wrote:
>
> I think that representation of disabled in parliament will nothing
> to do. in past we had MPs from disabled cummunity, but, there was no
> change.
>
> also it is my opinion that we should focus on blind particular not on
> disabled in general. it is wwitnessed that in past most of the movement
> started by blind individuals, groups or NGOs, but, the benifit has gone
> to other disability in majority.
>
>
>
>
> On 3/12/2023 8:31 PM, George Abraham wrote:
>
>
> Rahul,
>
> You could ask him as to what he can do to try and get representation
> for  Persons With Disability in the Parliament. To begin with maybe
> the Rajya Sabha
>
> Best,
>
> George
>
> *From:*accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in ]
> *On Behalf Of
> *vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2023 6:14 PM
> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> *Subject:* RE: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March:
> request for inputs
>
> I too think that audio description has little importance as the
> statements and not visual posture of the legislators are of importance.
>
> Though parliament website is mostly accessible but scanned copies of
> statements in the parliament library sometimes create problem.
>
> When I open the link “papers laid”, somehow Jaws gets silent as I go
> in the table where list of papers are given.
>
> Not discovered much though.
>
> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>   *On
> Behalf Of *Muhammad Mishbahul
> *Sent:* 12 March 2023 03:36 PM
> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March:
> request for inputs
>
> I don’t think that audio description will be much help in the
> proceedings of parliament as it is already about debates, speeches,
> and auditory things. They emphasis should be much more on digital and
> physical accessibility. We should also push about
> representation/nomination of. Disable members in the legislative houses.
>
>   Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 12-Mar-2023, at 10:19 AM, Jai Krishna
>   wrote:
>
> 
>
> On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 at 10:10 AM, Mission Accessibility
>   wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Good morning. After much effort, I have managed to secure a
> meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March. The immediate
> trigger for this meeting is his observations about Parliament
> not being disabled friendly and an article that I wrote on the
> subject in the Indian express. In the meeting, I would like to
> discuss with him concrete pathways for making Parliament and
> its proceedings more disabled friendly. I would like to invite
> your suggestions on what issues I should discuss with him.
> This is what I have in mind at present:
>
> First,  Ensuring that proceedings in Parliament or accompanied
> by sign language interpretation and audio description. At
> least the most important ones to begin with.
>
> Second, setting up a committee that is tasked with addressing
> all Accessibility related needs in Parliament, as has been
> done by the Supreme Court recently.
>
> Third, conducting an audit of the physical infrastructure and
> website of the Parliament.
>
> Let me know if you have any other inputs.
>
> Rahul
>
> Sent from Outlook for iOS  
>
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Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

2023-03-12 Thread avinash shahi

Hi Rahul
Lately you have been doing very commendable work after returning from
Oxford and working with the current CJI. Kudos to you.
below are my suggestions for your proposed meeting with Dr Tharoor.
1) Committee for physical and digital accessibility on the line of the
Apex Court's committee. It is duable. This will be taken very
positively by Dr Tharoor as new parliament building is being
reconstructed.
2) separate ministry for disability affairs. Given the ever expanding
disabilities and complex needs of diverse groups, we desperately need
fulltime minister for disability affairs. You can butress this demand
by detailing after little research about how department of empowerment
of persons with disabilities is in shambles. we don't have fulltime
chief commissioner for years. many secretaries have served for only
few months in the last 3 four years. then got transfered or got
retired. I feel these two issues are good to start with.
As far as representation of person with disabilities is concerned, I
don't think one can get anything more than assurances from Dr Tharoor.
Its a complex tragectory and requires wider mobilisation and should
start from the grass root. for example we should start with
reservation in panchayats and urban bodyes' election first. then
concensus may emerge among politicians.
Best
On 3/13/23, Harish Kotian  wrote:
> All
>
> To take the thought process, forward, The nomination to Rajya Sabha for
> Anglo-Indian should be replaced with Disabled persons asAnglo-Indian
> persons is really not relevant presently. The change will not have any
> negative repercussions on any political parties. All that is required is
> a nudge.
>
> Harish
>
>
>
>
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject:  Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request
> for inputs
> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2023 22:58:44 +0530
> From: Avichal Bhatnagar 
> Reply-To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> To:   accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>
>
>
> Hi Rahul,
> I think, Dr. Tharoor can be requested to bring a private member bill
> on reserving certain seats for the disabled in Lok Sabha, and securing
> some representation in nominations to the Rajya Sabha.
>
>
>
>
> On 3/12/23, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA  wrote:
>> I think that representation of disabled in parliament will nothing
>> to do. in past we had MPs from disabled cummunity, but, there was no
>> change.
>>
>> also it is my opinion that we should focus on blind particular not on
>> disabled in general. it is wwitnessed that in past most of the movement
>> started by blind individuals, groups or NGOs, but, the benifit has gone
>> to other disability in majority.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/12/2023 8:31 PM, George Abraham wrote:
>>>
>>> Rahul,
>>>
>>> You could ask him as to what he can do to try and get representation
>>> for  Persons With Disability in the Parliament. To begin with maybe
>>> the Rajya Sabha
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> George
>>>
>>> *From:*accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] *On Behalf Of
>>> *vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2023 6:14 PM
>>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> *Subject:* RE: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March:
>>> request for inputs
>>>
>>> I too think that audio description has little importance as the
>>> statements and not visual posture of the legislators are of importance.
>>>
>>> Though parliament website is mostly accessible but scanned copies of
>>> statements in the parliament library sometimes create problem.
>>>
>>> When I open the link “papers laid”, somehow Jaws gets silent as I go
>>> in the table where list of papers are given.
>>>
>>> Not discovered much though.
>>>
>>> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>>  *On Behalf Of *Muhammad Mishbahul
>>> *Sent:* 12 March 2023 03:36 PM
>>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March:
>>> request for inputs
>>>
>>> I don’t think that audio description will be much help in the
>>> proceedings of parliament as it is already about debates, speeches,
>>> and auditory things. They emphasis should be much more on digital and
>>> physical accessibility. We should also push about
>>> representation/nomination of. Disable members in the legislative houses.
>>>
>>>   Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 12-Mar-2023, at 10:19 AM, Jai Krishna
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 at 10:10 AM, Mission Accessibility
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Good morning. After much effort, I have managed to secure a
>>> meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March. The immediate
>>> trigger for this meeting is his observations about Parliament
>>> not being disabled friendly and an article that I wrote on the
>>> subject in the Indian express. In the meeting, I would like to
>>> discuss with him concrete pathways for making Parliament and
>>> its proceedings more disabled friendly. I would like to invite
>>> your

Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

2023-03-12 Thread Mission Accessibility

All good points, thanks a lot. I will make a note of suggestions for the 
meeting this week and circulated for your perusal.

Sent from Outlook for iOS

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  on behalf 
of Harish Kotian 
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2023 9:01:17 AM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled. 
Subject: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

All

To take the thought process, forward, The nomination to Rajya Sabha for 
Anglo-Indian should be replaced with Disabled persons asAnglo-Indian persons is 
really not relevant presently. The change will not have any negative 
repercussions on any political parties. All that is required is a nudge.

Harish

 Forwarded Message 
Subject:Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request 
for inputs
Date:   Sun, 12 Mar 2023 22:58:44 +0530
From:   Avichal Bhatnagar 
Reply-To:   
accessindia@accessindia.org.in
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in

Hi Rahul,
I think, Dr. Tharoor can be requested to bring a private member bill
on reserving certain seats for the disabled in Lok Sabha, and securing
some representation in nominations to the Rajya Sabha.

On 3/12/23, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA 
 wrote:
I think that representation of disabled in parliament will nothing
to do. in past we had MPs from disabled cummunity, but, there was no
change.

also it is my opinion that we should focus on blind particular not on
disabled in general. it is wwitnessed that in past most of the movement
started by blind individuals, groups or NGOs, but, the benifit has gone
to other disability in majority.

On 3/12/2023 8:31 PM, George Abraham wrote:

Rahul,

You could ask him as to what he can do to try and get representation
for  Persons With Disability in the Parliament. To begin with maybe
the Rajya Sabha

Best,

George

*From:*accessindia@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] *On Behalf Of
*vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2023 6:14 PM
*To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
*Subject:* RE: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March:
request for inputs

I too think that audio description has little importance as the
statements and not visual posture of the legislators are of importance.

Though parliament website is mostly accessible but scanned copies of
statements in the parliament library sometimes create problem.

When I open the link “papers laid”, somehow Jaws gets silent as I go
in the table where list of papers are given.

Not discovered much though.

*From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
 *On 
Behalf Of *Muhammad Mishbahul
*Sent:* 12 March 2023 03:36 PM
*To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
*Subject:* Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March:
request for inputs

I don’t think that audio description will be much help in the
proceedings of parliament as it is already about debates, speeches,
and auditory things. They emphasis should be much more on digital and
physical accessibility. We should also push about
representation/nomination of. Disable members in the legislative houses.

  Sent from my iPhone

On 12-Mar-2023, at 10:19 AM, Jai Krishna
 wrote:

On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 at 10:10 AM, Mission Accessibility
 wrote:

Hi all,

Good morning. After much effort, I have managed to secure a
meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March. The immediate
trigger for this meeting is his observations about Parliament
not being disabled friendly and an article that I wrote on the
subject in the Indian express. In the meeting, I would like to
discuss with him concrete pathways for making Parliament and
its proceedings more disabled friendly. I would like to invite
your suggestions on what issues I should discuss with him.
This is what I have in mind at present:

First,  Ensuring that proceedings in Parliament or accompanied
by sign language interpretation and audio description. At
least the most important ones to begin with.

Second, setting up a committee that is tasked with addressing
all Accessibility related needs in Parliament, as has been
done by the Supreme Court recently.

Third, conducting an audit of the physical infrastructure and
website of the Parliament.

Let me know if you have any other inputs.

Rahul

Sent from Outlook for iOS 

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Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

2023-03-12 Thread Ronit Gadsing

Rahul,

It is crucial to create and manage disability-specific disaggregated data
across sectors of health, education, poverty alleviation, law and order,
sports, and culture.

With best regards,
Ronit

On Sun, Mar 12, 2023, 10:58 PM Avichal Bhatnagar 
wrote:

> Hi Rahul,
> I think, Dr. Tharoor can be requested to bring a private member bill
> on reserving certain seats for the disabled in Lok Sabha, and securing
> some representation in nominations to the Rajya Sabha.
>
>
>
>
> On 3/12/23, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA  wrote:
> > I think that representation of disabled in parliament will nothing
> > to do. in past we had MPs from disabled cummunity, but, there was no
> > change.
> >
> > also it is my opinion that we should focus on blind particular not on
> > disabled in general. it is wwitnessed that in past most of the movement
> > started by blind individuals, groups or NGOs, but, the benifit has gone
> > to other disability in majority.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/12/2023 8:31 PM, George Abraham wrote:
> >>
> >> Rahul,
> >>
> >> You could ask him as to what he can do to try and get representation
> >> for  Persons With Disability in the Parliament. To begin with maybe
> >> the Rajya Sabha
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> George
> >>
> >> *From:*accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> >> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] *On Behalf Of
> >> *vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com
> >> *Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2023 6:14 PM
> >> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> >> *Subject:* RE: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March:
> >> request for inputs
> >>
> >> I too think that audio description has little importance as the
> >> statements and not visual posture of the legislators are of importance.
> >>
> >> Though parliament website is mostly accessible but scanned copies of
> >> statements in the parliament library sometimes create problem.
> >>
> >> When I open the link “papers laid”, somehow Jaws gets silent as I go
> >> in the table where list of papers are given.
> >>
> >> Not discovered much though.
> >>
> >> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> >>  *On Behalf Of *Muhammad Mishbahul
> >> *Sent:* 12 March 2023 03:36 PM
> >> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> >> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March:
> >> request for inputs
> >>
> >> I don’t think that audio description will be much help in the
> >> proceedings of parliament as it is already about debates, speeches,
> >> and auditory things. They emphasis should be much more on digital and
> >> physical accessibility. We should also push about
> >> representation/nomination of. Disable members in the legislative houses.
> >>
> >>   Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On 12-Mar-2023, at 10:19 AM, Jai Krishna
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 at 10:10 AM, Mission Accessibility
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Good morning. After much effort, I have managed to secure a
> >> meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March. The immediate
> >> trigger for this meeting is his observations about Parliament
> >> not being disabled friendly and an article that I wrote on the
> >> subject in the Indian express. In the meeting, I would like to
> >> discuss with him concrete pathways for making Parliament and
> >> its proceedings more disabled friendly. I would like to invite
> >> your suggestions on what issues I should discuss with him.
> >> This is what I have in mind at present:
> >>
> >> First,  Ensuring that proceedings in Parliament or accompanied
> >> by sign language interpretation and audio description. At
> >> least the most important ones to begin with.
> >>
> >> Second, setting up a committee that is tasked with addressing
> >> all Accessibility related needs in Parliament, as has been
> >> done by the Supreme Court recently.
> >>
> >> Third, conducting an audit of the physical infrastructure and
> >> website of the Parliament.
> >>
> >> Let me know if you have any other inputs.
> >>
> >> Rahul
> >>
> >> Sent from Outlook for iOS 
> >>
> >> --
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Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

2023-03-12 Thread Avichal Bhatnagar

Hi Rahul,
I think, Dr. Tharoor can be requested to bring a private member bill
on reserving certain seats for the disabled in Lok Sabha, and securing
some representation in nominations to the Rajya Sabha.




On 3/12/23, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA  wrote:
> I think that representation     of disabled in parliament will nothing
> to do. in past we had MPs from disabled cummunity, but, there was no
> change.
>
> also it is my opinion that we should focus on blind particular not on
> disabled in general. it is wwitnessed that in past most of the movement
> started by blind individuals, groups or NGOs, but, the benifit has gone
> to other disability in majority.
>
>
>
>
> On 3/12/2023 8:31 PM, George Abraham wrote:
>>
>> Rahul,
>>
>> You could ask him as to what he can do to try and get representation
>> for  Persons With Disability in the Parliament. To begin with maybe
>> the Rajya Sabha
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> George
>>
>> *From:*accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] *On Behalf Of
>> *vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2023 6:14 PM
>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> *Subject:* RE: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March:
>> request for inputs
>>
>> I too think that audio description has little importance as the
>> statements and not visual posture of the legislators are of importance.
>>
>> Though parliament website is mostly accessible but scanned copies of
>> statements in the parliament library sometimes create problem.
>>
>> When I open the link “papers laid”, somehow Jaws gets silent as I go
>> in the table where list of papers are given.
>>
>> Not discovered much though.
>>
>> *From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>>  *On Behalf Of *Muhammad Mishbahul
>> *Sent:* 12 March 2023 03:36 PM
>> *To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
>> *Subject:* Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March:
>> request for inputs
>>
>> I don’t think that audio description will be much help in the
>> proceedings of parliament as it is already about debates, speeches,
>> and auditory things. They emphasis should be much more on digital and
>> physical accessibility. We should also push about
>> representation/nomination of. Disable members in the legislative houses.
>>
>>   Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 12-Mar-2023, at 10:19 AM, Jai Krishna
>>  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 at 10:10 AM, Mission Accessibility
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Good morning. After much effort, I have managed to secure a
>> meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March. The immediate
>> trigger for this meeting is his observations about Parliament
>> not being disabled friendly and an article that I wrote on the
>> subject in the Indian express. In the meeting, I would like to
>> discuss with him concrete pathways for making Parliament and
>> its proceedings more disabled friendly. I would like to invite
>> your suggestions on what issues I should discuss with him.
>> This is what I have in mind at present:
>>
>> First,  Ensuring that proceedings in Parliament or accompanied
>> by sign language interpretation and audio description. At
>> least the most important ones to begin with.
>>
>> Second, setting up a committee that is tasked with addressing
>> all Accessibility related needs in Parliament, as has been
>> done by the Supreme Court recently.
>>
>> Third, conducting an audit of the physical infrastructure and
>> website of the Parliament.
>>
>> Let me know if you have any other inputs.
>>
>> Rahul
>>
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>> My suggestion would be to ask for possibilities To have
>> representation of the yard

Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

2023-03-12 Thread BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA

I think that representation of disabled in parliament will nothing
to do. in past we had MPs from disabled cummunity, but, there was no change.

also it is my opinion that we should focus on blind particular not on
disabled in general. it is wwitnessed that in past most of the movement
started by blind individuals, groups or NGOs, but, the benifit has gone
to other disability in majority.

On 3/12/2023 8:31 PM, George Abraham wrote:

Rahul,

You could ask him as to what he can do to try and get representation
for Persons With Disability in the Parliament. To begin with maybe
the Rajya Sabha

Best,

George

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[mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] *On Behalf Of
*vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com

*Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2023 6:14 PM
*To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
*Subject:* RE: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March:
request for inputs

I too think that audio description has little importance as the
statements and not visual posture of the legislators are of importance.

Though parliament website is mostly accessible but scanned copies of
statements in the parliament library sometimes create problem.

When I open the link “papers laid”, somehow Jaws gets silent as I go
in the table where list of papers are given.

Not discovered much though.

*From:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
*On Behalf Of *Muhammad Mishbahul

*Sent:* 12 March 2023 03:36 PM
*To:* accessindia@accessindia.org.in
*Subject:* Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March:
request for inputs

I don’t think that audio description will be much help in the
proceedings of parliament as it is already about debates, speeches,
and auditory things. They emphasis should be much more on digital and
physical accessibility. We should also push about
representation/nomination of. Disable members in the legislative houses.

Sent from my iPhone

On 12-Mar-2023, at 10:19 AM, Jai Krishna
wrote:

On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 at 10:10 AM, Mission Accessibility
wrote:

Hi all,

Good morning. After much effort, I have managed to secure a
meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March. The immediate
trigger for this meeting is his observations about Parliament
not being disabled friendly and an article that I wrote on the
subject in the Indian express. In the meeting, I would like to
discuss with him concrete pathways for making Parliament and
its proceedings more disabled friendly. I would like to invite
your suggestions on what issues I should discuss with him.
This is what I have in mind at present:

First, Ensuring that proceedings in Parliament or accompanied
by sign language interpretation and audio description. At
least the most important ones to begin with.

Second, setting up a committee that is tasked with addressing
all Accessibility related needs in Parliament, as has been
done by the Supreme Court recently.

Third, conducting an audit of the physical infrastructure and
website of the Parliament.

Let me know if you have any other inputs.

Rahul

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My suggestion would be to ask for possibilities To have
representation of the yard disable people yeah at least in
Rajya Sabha has 12 people can be nominated in Rajya Sabha by
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RE: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

2023-03-12 Thread George Abraham

Rahul,

 

You could ask him as to what he can do to try and get representation for  
Persons With Disability in the Parliament. To begin with maybe the Rajya Sabha 

 

Best,

 

George

 

 

 

 

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in [mailto:accessindia@accessindia.org.in] On 
Behalf Of vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2023 6:14 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: RE: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for 
inputs

 

I too think that audio description has little importance as the statements and 
not visual posture of the legislators are of importance.

Though parliament website is mostly accessible but scanned copies of statements 
in the parliament library sometimes create problem.

When I open the link “papers laid”, somehow Jaws gets silent as I go in the 
table where list of papers are given.

Not discovered much though.

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of Muhammad Mishbahul
Sent: 12 March 2023 03:36 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for 
inputs

 

I don’t think that audio description will be much help in the proceedings of 
parliament as it is already about debates, speeches, and auditory things. They 
emphasis should be much more on digital and physical accessibility. We should 
also push about representation/nomination of. Disable members in the 
legislative houses.

  Sent from my iPhone

 

On 12-Mar-2023, at 10:19 AM, Jai Krishna  wrote:



 

 

On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 at 10:10 AM, Mission Accessibility 
 wrote:

Hi all,

 

Good morning. After much effort, I have managed to secure a meeting with Dr 
Shashi Tharoor on 21st March. The immediate trigger for this meeting is his 
observations about Parliament not being disabled friendly and an article that I 
wrote on the subject in the Indian express. In the meeting, I would like to 
discuss with him concrete pathways for making Parliament and its proceedings 
more disabled friendly. I would like to invite your suggestions on what issues 
I should discuss with him. This is what I have in mind at present:

 

First,  Ensuring that proceedings in Parliament or accompanied by sign language 
interpretation and audio description. At least the most important ones to begin 
with.

 

Second, setting up a committee that is tasked with addressing all Accessibility 
related needs in Parliament, as has been done by the Supreme Court recently. 

 

Third, conducting an audit of the physical infrastructure and website of the 
Parliament.

 

Let me know if you have any other inputs.

 

Rahul 

 

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Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

2023-03-12 Thread pavan kallem

Hi Rahul,
It's great to hear that you have managed to secure a meeting with Dr.
Shashi Tharoor on 21st March to discuss the issue of making Parliament
and its proceedings more disabled friendly. Your efforts in this
regard are commendable and I appreciate your initiative to bring this
important issue to light.
Your proposed agenda for the meeting seems to be well thought-out and
comprehensive. The three key issues that you have identified are
crucial for making Parliament more accessible to people with
disabilities. I would like to suggest a few more points that you could
consider discussing with Dr. Tharoor:
1.
Increasing representation of people with disabilities in Parliament:
One of the ways to ensure that the concerns of people with
disabilities are heard is to increase their representation in
Parliament. This could be achieved by reserving a certain number of
seats in the Parliament for people with disabilities or by providing
incentives for political parties to field candidates with
disabilities.
2.
Providing training to MPs and staff on disability issues: It's
essential that MPs and staff in the Parliament are aware of the
challenges faced by people with disabilities and the steps that can be
taken to address them. Providing training on disability issues can
help in creating a more inclusive environment in the Parliament.
3.
Ensuring accessibility of Parliament-related events: In addition to
the proceedings in the Parliament, it's also important to ensure that
all events related to the Parliament are accessible to people with
disabilities. This could include events like conferences, workshops,
and public hearings.
I hope these suggestions are helpful in your meeting with Dr. Tharoor.
Your efforts to make Parliament more accessible to people with
disabilities are truly inspiring and I wish you all the best in your
endeavors.
Best regards,
Advecote Kallem Pavan, Hyderabad, Telangana.

On 3/12/23, vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com  wrote:
> I too think that audio description has little importance as the statements
> and not visual posture of the legislators are of importance.
>
> Though parliament website is mostly accessible but scanned copies of
> statements in the parliament library sometimes create problem.
>
> When I open the link “papers laid”, somehow Jaws gets silent as I go in the
> table where list of papers are given.
>
> Not discovered much though.
>
> From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On
> Behalf Of Muhammad Mishbahul
> Sent: 12 March 2023 03:36 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for
> inputs
>
>
>
> I don’t think that audio description will be much help in the proceedings of
> parliament as it is already about debates, speeches, and auditory things.
> They emphasis should be much more on digital and physical accessibility. We
> should also push about representation/nomination of. Disable members in the
> legislative houses.
>
>   Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12-Mar-2023, at 10:19 AM, Jai Krishna   > wrote:
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 at 10:10 AM, Mission Accessibility
> mailto:missionaccessibil...@gmail.com> >
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Good morning. After much effort, I have managed to secure a meeting with Dr
> Shashi Tharoor on 21st March. The immediate trigger for this meeting is his
> observations about Parliament not being disabled friendly and an article
> that I wrote on the subject in the Indian express. In the meeting, I would
> like to discuss with him concrete pathways for making Parliament and its
> proceedings more disabled friendly. I would like to invite your suggestions
> on what issues I should discuss with him. This is what I have in mind at
> present:
>
>
>
> First,  Ensuring that proceedings in Parliament or accompanied by sign
> language interpretation and audio description. At least the most important
> ones to begin with.
>
>
>
> Second, setting up a committee that is tasked with addressing all
> Accessibility related needs in Parliament, as has been done by the Supreme
> Court recently.
>
>
>
> Third, conducting an audit of the physical infrastructure and website of the
> Parliament.
>
>
>
> Let me know if you have any other inputs.
>
>
>
> Rahul
>
>
>
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RE: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

2023-03-12 Thread vedprakash.sharma

I too think that audio description has little importance as the statements and 
not visual posture of the legislators are of importance.

Though parliament website is mostly accessible but scanned copies of statements 
in the parliament library sometimes create problem.

When I open the link “papers laid”, somehow Jaws gets silent as I go in the 
table where list of papers are given.

Not discovered much though.

From: accessindia@accessindia.org.in  On Behalf 
Of Muhammad Mishbahul
Sent: 12 March 2023 03:36 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for 
inputs

 

I don’t think that audio description will be much help in the proceedings of 
parliament as it is already about debates, speeches, and auditory things. They 
emphasis should be much more on digital and physical accessibility. We should 
also push about representation/nomination of. Disable members in the 
legislative houses.

  Sent from my iPhone





On 12-Mar-2023, at 10:19 AM, Jai Krishna mailto:rjaikrishna1...@gmail.com> > wrote:



 

 

On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 at 10:10 AM, Mission Accessibility 
mailto:missionaccessibil...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi all,

 

Good morning. After much effort, I have managed to secure a meeting with Dr 
Shashi Tharoor on 21st March. The immediate trigger for this meeting is his 
observations about Parliament not being disabled friendly and an article that I 
wrote on the subject in the Indian express. In the meeting, I would like to 
discuss with him concrete pathways for making Parliament and its proceedings 
more disabled friendly. I would like to invite your suggestions on what issues 
I should discuss with him. This is what I have in mind at present:

 

First,  Ensuring that proceedings in Parliament or accompanied by sign language 
interpretation and audio description. At least the most important ones to begin 
with.

 

Second, setting up a committee that is tasked with addressing all Accessibility 
related needs in Parliament, as has been done by the Supreme Court recently. 

 

Third, conducting an audit of the physical infrastructure and website of the 
Parliament.

 

Let me know if you have any other inputs.

 

Rahul 

 

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2023-03-12 Thread Muhammad Mishbahul

I don’t think that audio description will be much help in the proceedings of parliament as it is already about debates, speeches, and auditory things. They emphasis should be much more on digital and physical accessibility. We should also push about representation/nomination of. Disable members in the legislative houses.  Sent from my iPhoneOn 12-Mar-2023, at 10:19 AM, Jai Krishna  wrote:On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 at 10:10 AM, Mission Accessibility  wrote:







Hi all,


Good morning. After much effort, I have managed to secure a meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March. The immediate trigger for this meeting is his observations about Parliament not being disabled friendly and an article that I wrote on the subject
 in the Indian express. In the meeting, I would like to discuss with him concrete pathways for making Parliament and its proceedings more disabled friendly. I would like to invite your suggestions on what issues I should discuss with him. This is what I have
 in mind at present:


First,  Ensuring that proceedings in Parliament or accompanied by sign language interpretation and audio description. At least the most important ones to begin with.


Second, setting up a committee that is tasked with addressing all Accessibility related needs in Parliament, as has been done by the Supreme Court recently. 


Third, conducting an audit of the physical infrastructure and website of the Parliament.


Let me know if you have any other inputs.


Rahul 



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Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

2023-03-11 Thread Jai Krishna

On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 at 10:10 AM, Mission Accessibility <
missionaccessibil...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Good morning. After much effort, I have managed to secure a meeting with
> Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March. The immediate trigger for this meeting is
> his observations about Parliament not being disabled friendly and an
> article that I wrote on the subject in the Indian express. In the meeting,
> I would like to discuss with him concrete pathways for making Parliament
> and its proceedings more disabled friendly. I would like to invite your
> suggestions on what issues I should discuss with him. This is what I have
> in mind at present:
>
> First,  Ensuring that proceedings in Parliament or accompanied by sign
> language interpretation and audio description. At least the most important
> ones to begin with.
>
> Second, setting up a committee that is tasked with addressing all
> Accessibility related needs in Parliament, as has been done by the Supreme
> Court recently.
>
> Third, conducting an audit of the physical infrastructure and website of
> the Parliament.
>
> Let me know if you have any other inputs.
>
> Rahul
>
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Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

RE: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

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Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

RE: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

RE: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

RE: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

Re: [AI] Meeting with Dr Shashi Tharoor on 21st March: request for inputs

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