RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue

2006-08-16 Thread Manjeet Singh








I am trying to read
the machine password from exchange server (Windows 2003 R2 Standard + SP1,
Exchange 2003 +SP2). I have tried some other tools also (like lsadump) but they
all are failing to read it.

We are working on
Exchange DR solution- so we need to import the machine password from production
exchange server and we set the same password on our DR box.





The same function is
working on windows 2000 and windows 2003 in same domain. But its failing on
Windows 2003 R2.











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 1:42
PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows
2003 R2 Issue





I have two questions.



1. Where are you reading the password
from?



2. Why?







--

O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm

















From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Manjeet Singh
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 7:52
PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003
R2 Issue

Hi,



I have one test setup with Windows 2003 R2 with SP1.

Single Domain
Topology:



AD Server = Windows
2003 R2 + SP1

Exchange Server: -
Windows 2003 R2 + Exchange 2003 Ent + SP2 + latest
Microsoft security patches.



Problem: I am unable
to read the machine password of the Exchange Server. It says Error if I try to
access the machine password. I need the machine password of exchange server for
testing some code. Any idea what
could be the reason?



I am able to get the
password successfully from another exchange server which is running in Windows
2003 OS.








RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue

2006-08-16 Thread Michael B. Smith



Now I understand your appliance architecture and how you 
deal with the encryption issues.

This doesn't seem like a smart way to do it, to 
me.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Manjeet 
SinghSent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 4:26 AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 
Issue


I am trying to read 
the machine password from exchange server (Windows 2003 R2 Standard + SP1, 
Exchange 2003 +SP2). I have tried some other tools also (like lsadump) but they 
all are failing to read it.
We are working on 
Exchange DR solution- so we need to import the machine password from production 
exchange server and we set the same password on our DR 
box.


The same function is 
working on windows 2000 and windows 2003 in same domain. But its failing on 
Windows 2003 R2.





From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of joeSent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 1:42 
PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 
Issue

I have two 
questions.

1. Where are you 
reading the password from?

2. 
Why?


--
O'Reilly Active 
Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm







From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Manjeet SinghSent: Friday, August 11, 2006 7:52 
PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 
Issue
Hi,

I have one 
test setup with Windows 2003 R2 with 
SP1.
Single Domain 
Topology:

AD Server = Windows 
2003 R2 + SP1
Exchange Server: - 
Windows 2003 R2 + Exchange 2003 Ent + SP2 + latest Microsoft security 
patches.

Problem: I am unable 
to read the machine password of the Exchange Server. It says Error if I try to 
access the machine password. I need the machine password of exchange server for 
testing some code. Any idea what 
could be the reason?

I am able to get the 
password successfully from another exchange server which is running in Windows 
2003 OS.


Re: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue

2006-08-16 Thread Al Mulnick
I have to agree with Michael. Why would you want to do that? I mean, the machine password changes frequently and you *could* just re-add/reset the machine password if you needed to. IIRC, this is covered in the Exchange DR whitepaper as well. You may want to have a look. 


As to why it no longer works but did before? Who knows? Likely a security change because you should not have been able to read it before. That machine has a high level of privileges in AD by default. You wouldn't want people to be able to read the password. 


al
On 8/16/06, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Now I understand your appliance architecture and how you deal with the encryption issues.

This doesn't seem like a smart way to do it, to me.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Manjeet Singh
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 4:26 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue





I am trying to read the machine password from exchange server (Windows 2003 R2 Standard + SP1, Exchange 2003 +SP2). I have tried some other tools also (like lsadump) but they all are failing to read it.

We are working on Exchange DR solution- so we need to import the machine password from production exchange server and we set the same password on our DR box.



The same function is working on windows 2000 and windows 2003 in same domain. But its failing on Windows 2003 R2.






From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of joeSent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 1:42 PMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue


I have two questions.


1. Where are you reading the password from?


2. Why?


--
O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - 
http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm







From:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Manjeet SinghSent: Friday, August 11, 2006 7:52 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject:
 [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue
Hi,

I have one test setup with Windows 2003 R2 with SP1.
Single Domain Topology:

AD Server = Windows 2003 R2 + SP1
Exchange Server: - Windows 2003 R2 + Exchange 2003 Ent + SP2 + latest Microsoft security patches.


Problem: I am unable to read the machine password of the Exchange Server. It says Error if I try to access the machine password. I need the machine password of exchange server for testing some code. Any idea what could be the reason?


I am able to get the password successfully from another exchange server which is running in Windows 2003 OS.




RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue

2006-08-16 Thread Deji Akomolafe



I do not have a solution for your issues. I am just curious. Why do you NEED the password? Why is it important for you to set the same password on your DR box?

So, the real exchange server dies, you bring in your DR box and have it impersonate the real one? Is this why? Is this to eliminate the need to have to manually join your box to the domain? Do you also clone the machine SID?

Again, just curious.


Sincerely,  _  (, / | /) /) /)  /---| (/_ __ ___// _ // _ ) / |_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_(_/ /)  (/ Microsoft MVP - Directory Serviceswww.akomolafe.com- we know IT-5.75, -3.23Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? -anon


From: Manjeet SinghSent: Wed 8/16/2006 1:26 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue


I am trying to read the machine password from exchange server (Windows 2003 R2 Standard + SP1, Exchange 2003 +SP2). I have tried some other tools also (like lsadump) but they all are failing to read it.
We are working on Exchange DR solution- so we need to import the machine password from production exchange server and we set the same password on our DR box.


The same function is working on windows 2000 and windows 2003 in same domain. But its failing on Windows 2003 R2.





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joeSent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 1:42 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue

I have two questions.

1. Where are you reading the password from?

2. Why?


--
O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm







From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Manjeet SinghSent: Friday, August 11, 2006 7:52 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue
Hi,

I have one test setup with Windows 2003 R2 with SP1.
Single Domain Topology:

AD Server = Windows 2003 R2 + SP1
Exchange Server: - Windows 2003 R2 + Exchange 2003 Ent + SP2 + latest Microsoft security patches.

Problem: I am unable to read the machine password of the Exchange Server. It says Error if I try to access the machine password. I need the machine password of exchange server for testing some code. Any idea what could be the reason?

I am able to get the password successfully from another exchange server which is running in Windows 2003 OS.


RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue

2006-08-16 Thread Manjeet Singh








We need to sync the
machine password for authentication purpose because the DR machine is not a
part of production AD domain. We have to sync the password so that Kerberos
authentication work properly (Kerberos is not working when the password do not
match). So whenever there is a password changes on Production exchange we sync
it immediately.



We do not sync the
machine SID. 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deji Akomolafe
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006
8:48 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows
2003 R2 Issue









I do not have a solution for your issues.
I am just curious. Why do you NEED the password? Why is it important for you to
set the same password on your DR box?











So, the real exchange server dies, you bring in your DR box
and have it impersonate the real one? Is this why? Is this to eliminate the
need to have to manually join your
box to the domain? Do you also clone the machine SID?











Again, just curious.












Sincerely, 

_

 (, / |
/)
/) /) 
 /---| (/_ __ ___// _
// _ 
) / |_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_
(_/
/) 

(/ 
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.akomolafe.com- we know IT
-5.75, -3.23
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday?
-anon

















From: Manjeet Singh
Sent: Wed 8/16/2006 1:26 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows
2003 R2 Issue





I am trying to read
the machine password from exchange server (Windows 2003 R2 Standard + SP1,
Exchange 2003 +SP2). I have tried some other tools also (like lsadump) but they
all are failing to read it.

We are working on
Exchange DR solution- so we need to import the machine password from production
exchange server and we set the same password on our DR box.





The same function is
working on windows 2000 and windows 2003 in same domain. But its failing on
Windows 2003 R2.











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 1:42
PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows
2003 R2 Issue





I have two questions.



1. Where are you reading the password
from?



2. Why?







--

O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm

















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Manjeet
 Singh
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 7:52
PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003
R2 Issue

Hi,



I have one test setup with Windows 2003 R2 with SP1.

Single Domain
Topology:



AD Server = Windows
2003 R2 + SP1

Exchange Server: -
Windows 2003 R2 + Exchange 2003 Ent + SP2 + latest
Microsoft security patches.



Problem: I am unable
to read the machine password of the Exchange Server. It says Error if I try to
access the machine password. I need the machine password of exchange server for
testing some code. Any idea what
could be the reason?



I am able to get the
password successfully from another exchange server which is running in Windows
2003 OS.










RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue

2006-08-13 Thread Brian Desmond








OP has not produced evidence hes reading what he claims hes
reading yet, though.





Thanks,

Brian Desmond

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



c - 312.731.3132











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:37 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue









I don't know; that's why I pointed it out. Obviously, it's
readable. The question is, why is it readable on a Win2K3 machine, but not on a
Win2K3 R2 machine? In order to figure that out, we need the information that Al
asked for.











Laura













From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 1:28 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue

OK in that case how is the OP reading the secret?





Thanks,

Brian Desmond

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



c - 312.731.3132











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:16 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue









Read the last line of the original post.











Laura













From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:38 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue

Hes trying to read a secret  youre not allowed to do that
period. 



Thanks,

Brian Desmond

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



c - 312.731.3132









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Al Mulnick
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 8:12 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue









What rev is that other 2003 OS and what type of code are you
using? .Net? Can you post a snippet? ( note: I'm not a programmer, but I
sometimes play one on the internet. If it gets too deep, we'll ask
somebody like Joe K to help out; he does that stuff for a living). 











Al







On 8/11/06, Manjeet Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 







Hi,



I have one test
setup with Windows 2003 R2 with SP1.

Single Domain
Topology:



AD Server = Windows
2003 R2 + SP1

Exchange Server: -
Windows 2003 R2 + Exchange 2003 Ent + SP2 + latest Microsoft security patches.




Problem: I am unable
to read the machine password of the Exchange Server. It says Error if I try to
access the machine password. I need the machine password of exchange server for
testing some code. Any idea what could be the reason? 



I am able to get the
password successfully from another exchange server which is running in Windows
2003 OS. 




























RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue

2006-08-13 Thread Laura A. Robinson



Which 
is why I say we need the information that Al has asked for. 

Laura

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian 
  DesmondSent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 2:18 AMTo: 
  ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 
  R2 Issue
  
  
  OP 
  has not produced evidence hes reading what he claims hes reading yet, 
  though.
  
  
  Thanks,
  Brian 
  Desmond
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  c 
  - 312.731.3132
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Laura A. RobinsonSent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 
  12:37 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: 
  [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue
  
  
  I 
  don't know; that's why I pointed it out. Obviously, it's readable. The 
  question is, why is it readable on a Win2K3 machine, but not on a Win2K3 R2 
  machine? In order to figure that out, we need the information that Al asked 
  for.
  
  
  
  Laura
  




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian 
DesmondSent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 1:28 AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 
R2 Issue
OK 
in that case how is the OP reading the secret?


Thanks,
Brian 
Desmond
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

c 
- 312.731.3132




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. 
RobinsonSent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:16 AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 
R2 Issue


Read 
the last line of the original post.



Laura

  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian 
  DesmondSent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:38 AMTo: 
  ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 
  2003 R2 Issue
  Hes 
  trying to read a secret  youre not allowed to do that period. 
  
  
  Thanks,
  Brian 
  Desmond
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  c 
  - 312.731.3132
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al 
  MulnickSent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 8:12 AMTo: 
  ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Windows 
  2003 R2 Issue
  
  
  What rev is that other 2003 OS and what type of code 
  are you using? .Net? Can you post a snippet? ( note: I'm not a 
  programmer, but I sometimes play one on the internet. If it gets too 
  deep, we'll ask somebody like Joe K to help out; he does that stuff for a 
  living). 
  
  
  
  Al
  
  On 8/11/06, Manjeet Singh 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: 
  
  
  
  Hi,
  
  I have one 
  test setup with Windows 2003 R2 with SP1.
  Single 
  Domain Topology:
  
  AD Server = 
  Windows 2003 R2 + SP1
  Exchange 
  Server: - Windows 2003 R2 + Exchange 2003 Ent + SP2 + latest Microsoft 
  security patches. 
  
  Problem: I 
  am unable to read the machine password of the Exchange Server. It says 
  Error if I try to access the machine password. I need the machine password 
  of exchange server for testing some code. Any idea what could be the 
  reason? 
  
  I am able to 
  get the password successfully from another exchange server which is 
  running in Windows 2003 OS. 
  


RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue

2006-08-13 Thread joe



I have two questions.

1. Where are you reading the password 
from?

2. Why?


--
O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Manjeet 
SinghSent: Friday, August 11, 2006 7:52 PMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 
Issue


Hi,

I have one 
test setup with Windows 2003 R2 with 
SP1.
Single Domain 
Topology:

AD Server = Windows 
2003 R2 + SP1
Exchange Server: - 
Windows 2003 R2 + Exchange 2003 Ent + SP2 + latest Microsoft security 
patches.

Problem: I am unable 
to read the machine password of the Exchange Server. It says Error if I try to 
access the machine password. I need the machine password of exchange server for 
testing some code. Any idea what 
could be the reason?

I am able to get the 
password successfully from another exchange server which is running in Windows 
2003 OS.


Re: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue

2006-08-12 Thread Al Mulnick
What rev is that other 2003 OS and what type of code are you using? .Net? Can you post a snippet? ( note: I'm not a programmer, but I sometimes play one on the internet. If it gets too deep, we'll ask somebody like Joe K to help out; he does that stuff for a living).


Al
On 8/11/06, Manjeet Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Hi,

I have one test setup with Windows 2003 R2 with SP1.
Single Domain Topology:

AD Server = Windows 2003 R2 + SP1
Exchange Server: - Windows 2003 R2 + Exchange 2003 Ent + SP2 + latest Microsoft security patches.


Problem: I am unable to read the machine password of the Exchange Server. It says Error if I try to access the machine password. I need the machine password of exchange server for testing some code. Any idea what could be the reason?


I am able to get the password successfully from another exchange server which is running in Windows 2003 OS.



RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue

2006-08-12 Thread Brian Desmond








He’s trying to read a secret – you’re not allowed to do that
period. 



Thanks,

Brian Desmond

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



c - 312.731.3132









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Al Mulnick
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 8:12 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue









What rev is that other 2003 OS and what type of code are you
using? .Net? Can you post a snippet? ( note: I'm not a programmer, but I
sometimes play one on the internet. If it gets too deep, we'll ask somebody
like Joe K to help out; he does that stuff for a living). 











Al







On 8/11/06, Manjeet Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 







Hi,



I have one test
setup with Windows 2003 R2 with SP1.

Single Domain Topology:



AD Server = Windows
2003 R2 + SP1

Exchange Server: -
Windows 2003 R2 + Exchange 2003 Ent + SP2 + latest Microsoft security patches.




Problem: I am unable
to read the machine password of the Exchange Server. It says Error if I try to
access the machine password. I need the machine password of exchange server for
testing some code. Any idea what could be the reason? 



I am able to get the
password successfully from another exchange server which is running in Windows
2003 OS. 




















RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue

2006-08-12 Thread Laura A. Robinson



Read 
the last line of the original post.

Laura

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian 
  DesmondSent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:38 AMTo: 
  ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 
  R2 Issue
  
  
  Hes 
  trying to read a secret  youre not allowed to do that period. 
  
  
  Thanks,
  Brian 
  Desmond
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  c 
  - 312.731.3132
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Al MulnickSent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 8:12 
  AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: 
  [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue
  
  
  What rev is that other 2003 OS and what type of code are 
  you using? .Net? Can you post a snippet? ( note: I'm not a programmer, 
  but I sometimes play one on the internet. If it gets too deep, we'll ask 
  somebody like Joe K to help out; he does that stuff for a living). 
  
  
  
  
  Al
  
  On 8/11/06, Manjeet Singh 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: 
  
  
  
  Hi,
  
  I have one test 
  setup with Windows 2003 R2 with SP1.
  Single Domain 
  Topology:
  
  AD Server = 
  Windows 2003 R2 + SP1
  Exchange Server: 
  - Windows 2003 R2 + Exchange 2003 Ent + SP2 + latest Microsoft security 
  patches. 
  
  Problem: I am 
  unable to read the machine password of the Exchange Server. It says Error if I 
  try to access the machine password. I need the machine password of exchange 
  server for testing some code. Any idea what could be the reason? 
  
  
  I am able to get 
  the password successfully from another exchange server which is running in 
  Windows 2003 OS. 
  


Re: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue

2006-08-12 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
But aren't we assuming that the permissions on that other exchange 
server where it does work are default?


Laura A. Robinson wrote:

Read the last line of the original post.
Laura


*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian
Desmond
*Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:38 AM
*To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
*Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue

*He’s trying to read a secret – you’re not allowed to do that
period. *

* *

*Thanks,*

*Brian Desmond*

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

* *

*c - 312.731.3132*

* *

*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Al Mulnick
*Sent:* Saturday, August 12, 2006 8:12 AM
*To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
*Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue

What rev is that other 2003 OS and what type of code are you
using? .Net? Can you post a snippet? ( note: I'm not a programmer,
but I sometimes play one on the internet. If it gets too deep,
we'll ask somebody like Joe K to help out; he does that stuff for
a living).

Al

On 8/11/06, *Manjeet Singh* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

I have one test setup with Windows 2003 R2 with SP1.

Single Domain Topology:

AD Server = Windows 2003 R2 + SP1

Exchange Server: - Windows 2003 R2 + Exchange 2003 Ent + SP2 +
latest Microsoft security patches.

Problem: I am unable to read the machine password of the Exchange
Server. It says Error if I try to access the machine password. I
need the machine password of exchange server for testing some
code. Any idea what could be the reason?

I am able to get the password successfully from another exchange
server which is running in Windows 2003 OS.


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RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue

2006-08-12 Thread Brian Desmond








OK in that case how is the OP reading the secret?





Thanks,

Brian Desmond

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



c - 312.731.3132











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:16 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue









Read the last line of the original post.











Laura













From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:38 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue

Hes trying to read a secret  youre not allowed to do that
period. 



Thanks,

Brian Desmond

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c - 312.731.3132









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Al Mulnick
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 8:12 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue









What rev is that other 2003 OS and what type of code are you
using? .Net? Can you post a snippet? ( note: I'm not a programmer, but I
sometimes play one on the internet. If it gets too deep, we'll ask
somebody like Joe K to help out; he does that stuff for a living). 











Al







On 8/11/06, Manjeet Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 







Hi,



I have one test
setup with Windows 2003 R2 with SP1.

Single Domain
Topology:



AD Server = Windows
2003 R2 + SP1

Exchange Server: -
Windows 2003 R2 + Exchange 2003 Ent + SP2 + latest Microsoft security patches.




Problem: I am unable
to read the machine password of the Exchange Server. It says Error if I try to
access the machine password. I need the machine password of exchange server for
testing some code. Any idea what could be the reason? 



I am able to get the
password successfully from another exchange server which is running in Windows
2003 OS. 
























RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue

2006-08-12 Thread Laura A. Robinson
Irrelevant to my point, which is that you're not allowed to do that period
apparently isn't true. :-)

Laura 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
 Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 1:23 AM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue
 
 But aren't we assuming that the permissions on that other 
 exchange server where it does work are default?
 
 Laura A. Robinson wrote:
  Read the last line of the original post.
  Laura
 
  
 --
 --
  *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Brian
  Desmond
  *Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:38 AM
  *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
  *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue
 
  *He's trying to read a secret - you're not allowed to do that
  period. *
 
  * *
 
  *Thanks,*
 
  *Brian Desmond*
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  * *
 
  *c - 312.731.3132*
 
  * *
 
  *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf 
 Of *Al Mulnick
  *Sent:* Saturday, August 12, 2006 8:12 AM
  *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
  *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue
 
  What rev is that other 2003 OS and what type of code are you
  using? .Net? Can you post a snippet? ( note: I'm not a 
 programmer,
  but I sometimes play one on the internet. If it gets too deep,
  we'll ask somebody like Joe K to help out; he does that 
 stuff for
  a living).
 
  Al
 
  On 8/11/06, *Manjeet Singh* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I have one test setup with Windows 2003 R2 with SP1.
 
  Single Domain Topology:
 
  AD Server = Windows 2003 R2 + SP1
 
  Exchange Server: - Windows 2003 R2 + Exchange 2003 Ent + SP2 +
  latest Microsoft security patches.
 
  Problem: I am unable to read the machine password of 
 the Exchange
  Server. It says Error if I try to access the machine password. I
  need the machine password of exchange server for testing some
  code. Any idea what could be the reason?
 
  I am able to get the password successfully from another exchange
  server which is running in Windows 2003 OS.
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue

2006-08-12 Thread Ken Schaefer








In line with Brians question 
how is the OP reading the secret, and what are the differences between the two
servers (and DCs if there are different DCs involved)?



If you hook the functions that generate
the passwords and convey them to the DC, it would be possible to get this value
(in a similar way that you could get a users password via a custom
passfilt.dll). However without knowing what the OP is doing, and what the
differences are between the two environments, its impossible to state
with any certainty what the problem is in the second environment.



Cheers

Ken











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
Sent: Sunday, 13 August 2006 3:28
PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows
2003 R2 Issue





OK in that case how is the OP reading the secret?





Thanks,

Brian Desmond

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



c - 312.731.3132











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006
12:16 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows
2003 R2 Issue









Read the last line of the
original post.











Laura













From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006
12:38 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows
2003 R2 Issue

Hes trying to read a secret  youre not
allowed to do that period. 



Thanks,

Brian Desmond

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



c - 312.731.3132









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Al Mulnick
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006
8:12 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Windows
2003 R2 Issue









What rev is that other 2003 OS and what type of code
are you using? .Net? Can you post a snippet? ( note: I'm not a
programmer, but I sometimes play one on the internet. If it gets too
deep, we'll ask somebody like Joe K to help out; he does that stuff for a
living). 











Al







On 8/11/06, Manjeet Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 







Hi,



I have one test setup with Windows 2003
R2 with SP1.

Single Domain Topology:



AD Server = Windows 2003 R2 + SP1

Exchange Server: - Windows 2003 R2 +
Exchange 2003 Ent + SP2 + latest Microsoft security patches. 



Problem: I am unable to read the
machine password of the Exchange Server. It says Error if I try to access the
machine password. I need the machine password of exchange server for testing
some code. Any idea what could be the reason? 



I am able to get the password
successfully from another exchange server which is running in Windows 2003 OS. 
























RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue

2006-08-12 Thread Laura A. Robinson



I 
don't know; that's why I pointed it out. Obviously, it's readable. The question 
is, why is it readable on a Win2K3 machine, but not on a Win2K3 R2 machine? In 
order to figure that out, we need the information that Al asked 
for.

Laura

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian 
  DesmondSent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 1:28 AMTo: 
  ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 
  R2 Issue
  
  
  OK 
  in that case how is the OP reading the secret?
  
  
  Thanks,
  Brian 
  Desmond
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  c 
  - 312.731.3132
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Laura A. RobinsonSent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 
  12:16 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: 
  [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 R2 Issue
  
  
  Read 
  the last line of the original post.
  
  
  
  Laura
  




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian 
DesmondSent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:38 AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 
R2 Issue
Hes 
trying to read a secret  youre not allowed to do that period. 


Thanks,
Brian 
Desmond
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

c 
- 312.731.3132




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al 
MulnickSent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 8:12 AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Windows 2003 
R2 Issue


What rev is that other 2003 OS and what type of code are 
you using? .Net? Can you post a snippet? ( note: I'm not a programmer, 
but I sometimes play one on the internet. If it gets too deep, we'll 
ask somebody like Joe K to help out; he does that stuff for a living). 




Al

On 8/11/06, Manjeet Singh 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 



Hi,

I have one 
test setup with Windows 2003 R2 with SP1.
Single Domain 
Topology:

AD Server = 
Windows 2003 R2 + SP1
Exchange 
Server: - Windows 2003 R2 + Exchange 2003 Ent + SP2 + latest Microsoft 
security patches. 

Problem: I am 
unable to read the machine password of the Exchange Server. It says Error if 
I try to access the machine password. I need the machine password of 
exchange server for testing some code. Any idea what could be the reason? 


I am able to 
get the password successfully from another exchange server which is running 
in Windows 2003 OS.