can not backup nds with netware client 5.1.5
have seen this problem reported recently, just throwing in my complaint netware 5.1 server, service pack4 with tsm client 5.1.5 unable to specify nds in domain statement DOMAIN ALL-LOCAL NDS also tried DOMAIN ALL-LOCAL DIR ANS1036S Invalid option 'DOMAIN' found in options file Tim Brown Systems Specialist Central Hudson Gas Electric 284 South Avenue Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Phone: 845-486-5643 Fax: 845-486-5921 Pager: 845-455-6985 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to merge filespaces
is it possible to merge filespaces ? our problem: we changed filespacename when we moved to a new storagebox. new backups are directed to the new filespace, the old filespace still exists containing some old versions we might need in the future. thanks and regards Michael Heiermann OD1 Systembetreuung LINDE AG Material Handling Schweinheimer Straße 34 D-63743 Aschaffenburg Tel.: ++49 6021 99-1293 Fax.: ++49 6021 99-6293 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this e-mail in error) please notify the sender immediately and destroy this e-mail. Any unauthorised copying, disclosure or distribution of the material in this e-mail is strictly forbidden. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Linde Material Handling. Since January 2002 we use the e-mail domain linde-mh.de instead of linde-fh.de. This mail has been swept for the presence of computerviruses.
Re: Encryption
Been a while and I'd have to double check but... You might not want to use compression if you use encryption... I believe it encrypts first then tries to compress and encrypted data doesn't compress (much). Something to double check. Dwight -Original Message- From: J D Gable [mailto:josh.gable;eds.com] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 4:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Encryption Does anybody have any evidence/research as to what kind of additional overhead encryption puts on a client when processing a backup (CPU, Memory, etc.)? I am running some tests myself, but the numbers are staggering (we're seeing up to a 300% increase in the backup time in some cases). I understand that it is largely based on the horsepower of the node, but I was wondering if anyone else is seeing the same, or if anyone knew a place I could get some additional info on encryption. Thanks in advance for your time, Josh
Sony Library LIB-162
Hello all, I've got a question about a Sony Library. Has anybody some experiences (good or bad) with the Sony StoreStation AIT Library LIB-162. What is your opinion about AIT Cartridges? MfG Sascha Bräuning Sparkassen Informatik, Fellbach OrgEinheit: 6322 Wilhelm-Pfitzer Str. 1 70736 Fellbach Telefon: (0711) 5722-2144 Telefax: (0711) 5722-1634 Mailadr.: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dismiss dsmadmc header output
Hello, find this question once in the list, but didn't find any answer. Is there a way, something like a switch or an option, to influence the dsmadmc-output, to give only the interesting result and no overhead ? Trying to scripting some task in a shell-script. And iam a little anoyed, becaus it not very difficult to get some output from the dsmserver. But it is to reuse the information in the script. For example: I want to remove a Node, so i have first to delete the filespace. I also have to del the association. Iam afraid to use wildcards like 'del filespace node_name * ' in a script , so i need the filespacenames. I make an dsmadmc -id=... -pa=... q filespace node_name * or q select filspacename from filespaces. All i need is the name, but i get a lot of serverinformation: Tivoli Storage Manager Command Line Administrative Interface - Version 4, Release 1, Level 2.0 (C) Copyright IBM Corporation, 1990, 1999, All Rights Reserved. Session established with server ADSM: AIX-RS/6000 Server Version 4, Release 2, Level 2.7 Server date/time: 10/22/2002 11:34:44 Last access: 10/22/2002 11:26:01 ANS8000I Server command: 'q node TSTW2K' Node Name Platform Policy Domain Days Since Days Since Locked? Name Last Acce- Password ss Set - -- -- -- --- TSTW2KWinNTSTANDARD 277 278 No ANS8002I Highest return code was 0. Greetings Michael Kindermann Wuerzburg / Germany -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging more http://www.gmx.net +++ NEU: Mit GMX ins Internet. Rund um die Uhr f|r 1 ct/ Min. surfen!
Re: Transaction Log Restores
Question is, can I still archive these log files so they can be applied to the previous backup? No. You cannot. That is because Domino no longer tracks them. Would it be possible to manually copy the 'missing' log files back to the restore area before doing the restore? In that way, maybe the client would find the logs at the time when they were needed in the process? Alternatively, could you do a restore to a PIT just before the missing logs, without an activate, then in some way apply the missing logs, and return to the TDP to apply logs and activate after the missing ones? Richard, You first idea might work and is the one you should try. As for your second idea... as you have described, I really don't know how you could accomplish it. How do you propose to apply the missing logs? The only two ways I know to apply logs is through TDP for Domino and through a Domino server recovery. Del
RAID5 in TSM
Hi, There was a lot of discussion on this topic before.But i am requesting TSM gurus give their comments again. The set up is like this. TSM Server : Windows NT 4.0 SP6, TSM 5.1.0.0 392 MB memory, P III Adaptech Ultra SCSI Hard Disk : Internal Hardware RAID 5: array A : 8.678GB * 3 : 17.356GB data and 8.678 GB parity array B : 35.003 GB * 3 : 70.006GB data and 35.003 GB parity. Both array A and array B are connected to the same channel. OS and TSM 5.1 are installed on array A TSM data base, recovery log and Disk storage pool are installed in array B. Database : 2GB+2GB = 4 GB and mirrored at TSM level on the same array Recovery Log : 500MB + 500 MB = 1 GB and mirrored at TSM level on the same array Disk Storage pool : 10GB+10GB+10GB+10GB+5GB=45GB on array B TSM client: 4.1.2.12 ( Tivoli says 4.1.2.12 is not supported with 5.1 Server. But i could take the backup,archive and restore with this combination ) Number of Clients : 55, all are windows Incremental backup : 1GB/ client/day. backup window : 9AM to 6PM with 50% randamization ( all are in polling mode ) LAN : 100Mbps End of the day only 10 clients could finish the backup.Remaining all are missing or ? ( in progress ) or failed. Through the entire backup window the CPU load is 100% with dsmsvc.exe holding 98% I tested with various options. I stopped the schedular and fired 3 clients backup manually at the same time.Each client has 1 GB of incremental data. It took three hours to finish the backup. While backing up i observed there was lot of idletime outs of sessions. Network choke is not there. I checked this with FTP. Whats the bottleneck here? Is RAID 5 is creating problems ( DB,log and storage pool all are on the RAID 5 )? I asked the customer to arrange a testing machine without any RAID. I will be getting that in two days.Before going on to the testing i like to know your comments on this. Regards Raghu S Nivas Consultant - TSM DCM Data Systems Ltd New Delhi India. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DiskXtender 2000 High CPU Usage after install
YES I have been running Diskxtender 2000 for about 18 months and the dxspy deamon runs continuously checking for files to update so this is a common issue. It is one that we have to live with.. Justin Niklas Lundstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 10/21/2002 05:27:34 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:DiskXtender 2000 High CPU Usage after install Hello I have installed DX2000 on our big NT-fileserver, NT4 sp6a, approx 250 Gb and 3million files, Now, after the install, the systemprocess is running very high, about 50-100% of the cpu usage. Have anyone else had this problem?? Regards Niklas Lundström Swedbank
RAID5 in TSM
Hi, There was a lot of discussion on this topic before.But i am requesting TSM gurus give their comments again. The set up is like this. TSM Server : Windows NT 4.0 SP6, TSM 5.1.0.0 392 MB memory, P III Adaptech Ultra SCSI Hard Disk : Internal Hardware RAID 5: array A : 8.678GB * 3 : 17.356GB data and 8.678 GB parity array B : 35.003 GB * 3 : 70.006GB data and 35.003 GB parity. Both array A and array B are connected to the same channel. OS and TSM 5.1 are installed on array A TSM data base, recovery log and Disk storage pool are installed in array B. Database : 2GB+2GB = 4 GB and mirrored at TSM level on the same array Recovery Log : 500MB + 500 MB = 1 GB and mirrored at TSM level on the same array Disk Storage pool : 10GB+10GB+10GB+10GB+5GB=45GB on array B TSM client: 4.1.2.12 ( Tivoli says 4.1.2.12 is not supported with 5.1 Server. But i could take the backup,archive and restore with this combination ) Number of Clients : 55, all are windows Incremental backup : 1GB/ client/day. backup window : 9AM to 6PM with 50% randamization ( all are in polling mode ) LAN : 100Mbps End of the day only 10 clients could finish the backup.Remaining all are missing or ? ( in progress ) or failed. Through the entire backup window the CPU load is 100% with dsmsvc.exe holding 98% I tested with various options. I stopped the schedular and fired 3 clients backup manually at the same time.Each client has 1 GB of incremental data. It took three hours to finish the backup. While backing up i observed there was lot of idletime outs of sessions. Network choke is not there. I checked this with FTP. Whats the bottleneck here? Is RAID 5 is creating problems ( DB,log and storage pool all are on the RAID 5 )? I asked the customer to arrange a testing machine without any RAID. I will be getting that in two days.Before going on to the testing i like to know your comments on this. Regards Raghu S Nivas Consultant - TSM DCM Data Systems Ltd New Delhi India.
Re: How to merge filespaces
What you will find (last time I checked...)
Now, was the old filespace name eliminated totally ???
If so, TSM doesn't purge any of that data.
TSM doesn't know that the file system was removed, it only knows it isn't
available (maybe just not mounted...).
Existing inactive versions will expire naturally BUT the currently active
versions won't go away (ever), you will have to eventually purge them
manually.
AND based on the way your filespace names changed, you might need to look
into using {} to identify file systems...
Say you used to have a filesystem /oracle and under that you had
/oracle/d110 /oracle/d120 /oracle/d130 subdirectories but now you've
changed these to individual filesystems... if you had data saved under the
file system /oracle but under the .../d110/ subdirectory, say
/oracle/d110/myoraclefile.dbf to find this you might have to do
query backup {/oracle}/d110/myoraclefile.dbf
to identify /oracle as the filesystem, if /oracle doesn't exist anymore and
they are all now /oracle/d110 etc...
probably about as clear as mud if you haven't had to deal with items like
this in the past...
hope this helps,
Dwight E. Cook
Software Application Engineer III
Science Applications International Corporation
509 S. Boston Ave. Suite 220
Tulsa, Oklahoma 74103-4606
Office (918) 732-7109
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From: Michael Heiermann [mailto:Michael.Heiermann;LINDE-MH.DE]
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 4:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How to merge filespaces
is it possible to merge filespaces ?
our problem: we changed filespacename when we moved to a new storagebox.
new backups are directed to the new filespace, the old filespace still
exists containing some old versions
we might need in the future.
thanks and regards
Michael Heiermann
OD1 Systembetreuung
LINDE AG Material Handling
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Re: RAID5 in TSM
Even though there may be a slight performance hit on writes, I've placed the TSM DB on RAID-5 to ensure availability and no down time in case of a disk loss. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/22/02 08:03AM Hi, There was a lot of discussion on this topic before.But i am requesting TSM gurus give their comments again. The set up is like this. TSM Server : Windows NT 4.0 SP6, TSM 5.1.0.0 392 MB memory, P III Adaptech Ultra SCSI Hard Disk : Internal Hardware RAID 5: array A : 8.678GB * 3 : 17.356GB data and 8.678 GB parity array B : 35.003 GB * 3 : 70.006GB data and 35.003 GB parity. Both array A and array B are connected to the same channel. OS and TSM 5.1 are installed on array A TSM data base, recovery log and Disk storage pool are installed in array B. Database : 2GB+2GB = 4 GB and mirrored at TSM level on the same array Recovery Log : 500MB + 500 MB = 1 GB and mirrored at TSM level on the same array Disk Storage pool : 10GB+10GB+10GB+10GB+5GB=45GB on array B TSM client: 4.1.2.12 ( Tivoli says 4.1.2.12 is not supported with 5.1 Server. But i could take the backup,archive and restore with this combination ) Number of Clients : 55, all are windows Incremental backup : 1GB/ client/day. backup window : 9AM to 6PM with 50% randamization ( all are in polling mode ) LAN : 100Mbps End of the day only 10 clients could finish the backup.Remaining all are missing or ? ( in progress ) or failed. Through the entire backup window the CPU load is 100% with dsmsvc.exe holding 98% I tested with various options. I stopped the schedular and fired 3 clients backup manually at the same time.Each client has 1 GB of incremental data. It took three hours to finish the backup. While backing up i observed there was lot of idletime outs of sessions. Network choke is not there. I checked this with FTP. Whats the bottleneck here? Is RAID 5 is creating problems ( DB,log and storage pool all are on the RAID 5 )? I asked the customer to arrange a testing machine without any RAID. I will be getting that in two days.Before going on to the testing i like to know your comments on this. Regards Raghu S Nivas Consultant - TSM DCM Data Systems Ltd New Delhi India.
new tapedrive in 3575 library
Hi all, first of all, aix 4.3.2.0 adsm 3.1 on NSM magstar 3575 with 3 3570 c drive tapeunits. attached to 1 wide scsi differential controller. The adresses already in use by the units and the mediachanger are 20-60-00-0,1, 20-60-00-0,0, 20-60-00-1,0 and 20-60-00-2,0 (total package is reffered to by ibm as IBM 3466 Network Storage Manager) I want to add another tapeunit to the library, In the server there is another scsi adapter availeble. My idea is to break the chain of the one adapter to the 3 tapeunits and hook the third unit to the second scsi adapeter and chain it to the new one.(still with me?) Now i want to know if there are any known problems, issues to consider, things to do in advance etc. In other company's ive worked for hardware issues where always a big no, and everything had to be done by an IBM engineer. I hope someone can help me out. Thnx,\ michelle
Re: Co-location
At 3:53 PM -0400 10/21/02, Thach, Kevin said: The person that installed our environment basically set up 6 Policy Domains: Colodom, Exchange, Lanfree, MSSQL, Nocodom, and Oracle. 99% of the clients are in the Nocodom (non-collocated) domain, which has one policy set, and one management class which has one backup copy group with retention policies set to NOLIMIT, 3, 60, 60. This is away from the topic of Kevin's question, but his background info led to a question that we're looking at right now. We currently have one big disk pool for all our backups, which migrates to one tape pool, which we copy to another tape pool for offsite. We turned on co-location on the onsite tape pool a couple of weeks ago, because we just started using the SQL TDP, and the doc recommended colocation. We turned it back off this morning, because we were running out of tapes and had a lot of them that were only 5% full. We would like to do what Kevin says he's doing: specify colocation for a small number of our clients and leave it off for a bunch of them. But, if I understand correctly, colocation isn't specified directly in the management class. It's specified on the tape storage pool definition. So specifying colocation for some clients but not all would require multiple tape storage pools, which wouldn't really be a problem. But it looks like that would also require multiple disk storage pools, because, as far as I can tell, the only way to get a client into a different tape pool is to have it in a different disk pool. We'd really like to avoid carving up our disk space into more smaller pools. But, as far as I can tell, that's the only way to use colocation selectively. Am I missing something, or is that the way it works? -- Matt Simpson -- OS/390 Support 219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300 University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506 mailto:msimpson;uky.edu mainframe -- An obsolete device still used by thousands of obsolete companies serving billions of obsolete customers and making huge obsolete profits for their obsolete shareholders. And this year's run twice as fast as last year's.
Re: Monitoring oracle Backups
HI Joe I do an Oracle backup and SAP backups the Unix staff have done a whole lot of fancy scripting for me and extract data to a log file which is then e-mailed to all the relevant people each day. Possibly you could get some scripting done for this. I have incled a sample output below from our daily SAP backups. If you require the script used maybe I can arrange a copy. *=== *Date: Mon Oct 21 20:00:18 SAST 2002 *=== ** * Starting backup of SPP * ** BKI1215I: Average transmission rate was 40.181 GB/h (11.429 MB/sec). BKI0020I: End of backint program at: Mon Oct 21 21:35:49 2002 . BKI0021I: Elapsed time: 35 min 24 sec . BKI0024I: Return code is: 0. BKI1215I: Average transmission rate was 0.019 GB/h (0.005 MB/sec). BKI0020I: End of backint program at: Mon Oct 21 21:36:22 2002 . BKI0021I: Elapsed time: 29 sec . BKI0024I: Return code is: 0. ** * Backup of SPP complete * ** ** *Starting backup of redo logs* ** BKI1215I: Average transmission rate was 12.054 GB/h (3.429 MB/sec). BKI0020I: End of backint program at: Mon Oct 21 21:37:04 2002 . BKI0021I: Elapsed time: 40 sec . BKI0024I: Return code is: 0. BKI1215I: Average transmission rate was 11.124 GB/h (3.164 MB/sec). BKI0020I: End of backint program at: Mon Oct 21 21:37:35 2002 . BKI0021I: Elapsed time: 30 sec . BKI0024I: Return code is: 0. BKI1215I: Average transmission rate was 0.082 GB/h (0.023 MB/sec). BKI0020I: End of backint program at: Mon Oct 21 21:38:13 2002 . BKI0021I: Elapsed time: 38 sec . BKI0024I: Return code is: 0. *=== *Date: Mon Oct 21 20:38:15 SAST 2002 *=== *=== *Commence SPD backup at 20:38:15 *=== ** * Shutdown Appl db for SPD * ** ** * Starting backup of SPD * ** BKI1215I: Average transmission rate was 40.049 GB/h (11.392 MB/sec). BKI0020I: End of backint program at: Mon Oct 21 22:19:55 2002 . BKI0021I: Elapsed time: 40 min 43 sec . BKI0024I: Return code is: 0. BKI1215I: Average transmission rate was 0.016 GB/h (0.004 MB/sec). BKI0020I: End of backint program at: Mon Oct 21 22:20:54 2002 . BKI0021I: Elapsed time: 35 sec . BKI0024I: Return code is: 0. ** * Backup of SPD complete * ** ** *Start up SAP for SPD* ** *=== *Commence SPQ backup at 21:22:20 *=== ** * Shutdown Appl db for SPQ * ** ** * Starting backup of SPQ * ** BKI1215I: Average transmission rate was 49.056 GB/h (13.954 MB/sec). BKI0020I: End of backint program at: Mon Oct 21 23:00:59 2002 . BKI0021I: Elapsed time: 37 min 39 sec . BKI0024I: Return code is: 0. BKI1215I: Average transmission rate was 0.020 GB/h (0.006 MB/sec). BKI0020I: End of backint program at: Mon Oct 21 23:01:43 2002 . BKI0021I: Elapsed time: 29 sec . BKI0024I: Return code is: 0. ** * Backup of SPQ complete * ** ** *Start up SAP for SPQ* ** - Original Message - From: Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 3:26 PM Subject: Monitoring oracle Backups Recently installed TDP for Oracle. DBA's would like to be paged real time if a database backup fails. Aside from the paging part, does anyone know where I can pull the status of an Oracle database backup as soon as it completes. I don't want to extract from the client logs (when would I start looking?) And the Activity log does not supply all that much useful information. Any help would be greatly appreciated. thx. -joe-
Re: Testing the day of week in a script ....
Hi Where can one find this manual. Lawrie - Original Message - From: Steve Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 1:56 AM Subject: Re: Testing the day of week in a script Arnaud, TSM comes with a rich set of SQL functions. Get a hold of Andy Raibeck's Using the SQL Interface manual, it is very useful (search the archives to find where it is) Date functions include Day - Day of month dayname dayofweek - 1..7 Sunday..Saturday dayofyear daysinmonth daysinyear Monthname I've just been reviewing the manual and there are some neat ones that I'm going to try coalesce(value,value,value...) returns the first non-null in the list of values nullif(expression1,expression2) returns null if the expressions are equal or expression1 otherwise Andy, your manual is great, but its a bit out of date. Any chance of an up to date version or even better making it a part of the shipped manual set? Steve Harris AIX and TSM Admin Queensland Health, Brisbane Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21/10/2002 19:39:12 Hi *SM'ers, I'm looking for an SQL command to check the current day of week, before starting the conditional excution of a subsequent script. I already found something that seems to work, looking like : Script blah ... select date_time, message from actlog where cast((current_timestamp-date_time) minutes as decimal(8,0)) 1 and dayname(date_time) = 'Tuesday' if(rc_ok) goto tuesday If (rc_notfound) goto restofweek tuesday : run script1 exit restofweek : run script2 exit Unfortunately this kind of select statement take ages to complete, because it has to go through all the activity log to find the last lines written, as we keep one month of it ! Does anybody have a faster way doing this kind of query/test ? (without calling an AIX script) Thanks in advance Cheers. Arnaud =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Arnaud Brion, Panalpina Management Ltd., IT Group | | Viaduktstrasse 42, P.O. Box, 4002 Basel - Switzerland | | Phone: +41 61 226 19 78 / Fax: +41 61 226 17 01 | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ** This e-mail, including any attachments sent with it, is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). This confidentiality is not waived or lost if you receive it and you are not the intended recipient(s), or if it is transmitted/ received in error. Any unauthorised use, alteration, disclosure, distribution or review of this e-mail is prohibited. It may be subject to a statutory duty of confidentiality if it relates to health service matters. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or if you have received this e-mail in error, you are asked to immediately notify the sender by telephone or by return e-mail. You should also delete this e-mail message and destroy any hard copies produced. **
Re: new tapedrive in 3575 library
I'm using 6 3570's in a magstar 3575 with the following addresses on two adapters: rmt1 10-68-00-3,0 rmt2 10-68-00-4,0 rmt3 10-68-00-5,0 rmt4 20-60-00-0,0 rmt5 20-60-00-1,0 rmt6 20-60-00-2,0 I set up these with no problems and looked up the device address on 3575 library on IBM website. Gene Greenberg Jr. Lead, System Administrator Round Rock ISD 1311 Round Rock Ave. Round Rock, TX 78681 Michelle Wiedeman michelle.wiedeman@MTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ULTRIX.COM cc: Sent by: ADSM: DistSubject: new tapedrive in 3575 library Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] U 10/22/02 04:33 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hi all, first of all, aix 4.3.2.0 adsm 3.1 on NSM magstar 3575 with 3 3570 c drive tapeunits. attached to 1 wide scsi differential controller. The adresses already in use by the units and the mediachanger are 20-60-00-0,1, 20-60-00-0,0, 20-60-00-1,0 and 20-60-00-2,0 (total package is reffered to by ibm as IBM 3466 Network Storage Manager) I want to add another tapeunit to the library, In the server there is another scsi adapter availeble. My idea is to break the chain of the one adapter to the 3 tapeunits and hook the third unit to the second scsi adapeter and chain it to the new one.(still with me?) Now i want to know if there are any known problems, issues to consider, things to do in advance etc. In other company's ive worked for hardware issues where always a big no, and everything had to be done by an IBM engineer. I hope someone can help me out. Thnx,\ michelle
Re : Re: Co-location
Since we use 9840 tapes, we didn't want clients with 1-2 gb of data to use 1 whole tape. So we did just what you described. We have over 50% of our clients in this situation. We put the limit at 10-12 GB (a 9840 holds 20 GB). Sure you have to carve up you're disk pool but the small clients don't require alot of disks. Their pool is only 10 GB and it can hold a night's worth of backups easily. Guillaume Gilbert CGI Canada Matt Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 2002-10-22 09:46:13 Veuillez répondre à ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé par : ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pour : [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc : Objet : Re: Co-location At 3:53 PM -0400 10/21/02, Thach, Kevin said: The person that installed our environment basically set up 6 Policy Domains: Colodom, Exchange, Lanfree, MSSQL, Nocodom, and Oracle. 99% of the clients are in the Nocodom (non-collocated) domain, which has one policy set, and one management class which has one backup copy group with retention policies set to NOLIMIT, 3, 60, 60. This is away from the topic of Kevin's question, but his background info led to a question that we're looking at right now. We currently have one big disk pool for all our backups, which migrates to one tape pool, which we copy to another tape pool for offsite. We turned on co-location on the onsite tape pool a couple of weeks ago, because we just started using the SQL TDP, and the doc recommended colocation. We turned it back off this morning, because we were running out of tapes and had a lot of them that were only 5% full. We would like to do what Kevin says he's doing: specify colocation for a small number of our clients and leave it off for a bunch of them. But, if I understand correctly, colocation isn't specified directly in the management class. It's specified on the tape storage pool definition. So specifying colocation for some clients but not all would require multiple tape storage pools, which wouldn't really be a problem. But it looks like that would also require multiple disk storage pools, because, as far as I can tell, the only way to get a client into a different tape pool is to have it in a different disk pool. We'd really like to avoid carving up our disk space into more smaller pools. But, as far as I can tell, that's the only way to use colocation selectively. Am I missing something, or is that the way it works? -- Matt Simpson -- OS/390 Support 219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300 University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506 mailto:msimpson;uky.edu mainframe -- An obsolete device still used by thousands of obsolete companies serving billions of obsolete customers and making huge obsolete profits for their obsolete shareholders. And this year's run twice as fast as last year's.
Re: Co-location
HI, I think your problem might be the NOLIMIT option - it saves a copy of all files - whether or not they are deleted - it doesn't clear space off your disks during expiration - we had the same problem - until I removed NOLIMIT off our Novell policy. Jane %% Jane Bamberger IS Department Bassett Healthcare 607-547-4750 - Original Message - From: Matt Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 9:46 AM Subject: Re: Co-location At 3:53 PM -0400 10/21/02, Thach, Kevin said: The person that installed our environment basically set up 6 Policy Domains: Colodom, Exchange, Lanfree, MSSQL, Nocodom, and Oracle. 99% of the clients are in the Nocodom (non-collocated) domain, which has one policy set, and one management class which has one backup copy group with retention policies set to NOLIMIT, 3, 60, 60. This is away from the topic of Kevin's question, but his background info led to a question that we're looking at right now. We currently have one big disk pool for all our backups, which migrates to one tape pool, which we copy to another tape pool for offsite. We turned on co-location on the onsite tape pool a couple of weeks ago, because we just started using the SQL TDP, and the doc recommended colocation. We turned it back off this morning, because we were running out of tapes and had a lot of them that were only 5% full. We would like to do what Kevin says he's doing: specify colocation for a small number of our clients and leave it off for a bunch of them. But, if I understand correctly, colocation isn't specified directly in the management class. It's specified on the tape storage pool definition. So specifying colocation for some clients but not all would require multiple tape storage pools, which wouldn't really be a problem. But it looks like that would also require multiple disk storage pools, because, as far as I can tell, the only way to get a client into a different tape pool is to have it in a different disk pool. We'd really like to avoid carving up our disk space into more smaller pools. But, as far as I can tell, that's the only way to use colocation selectively. Am I missing something, or is that the way it works? -- Matt Simpson -- OS/390 Support 219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300 University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506 mailto:msimpson;uky.edu mainframe -- An obsolete device still used by thousands of obsolete companies serving billions of obsolete customers and making huge obsolete profits for their obsolete shareholders. And this year's run twice as fast as last year's.
Re: Audit Library question.
At 10:41 AM -0500 10/18/02, Todd Lundstedt said: How long should the command Audit Library LibName CheckLabel=BARCODE take to process. I have less than 200 tapes in the library. I have done this before and it took less than 5 mins. This one has been running for over 40 minutes now. Our situation is just the opposite. We have a 3584 library connected to TSM 4.2.2.0 on Solaris. Audit Library LibName CheckLabel=BARCODE completes in a few seconds, with no movement of the library robotics. It doesn't appear to be checking any barcodes at all. I haven't tried it with CHecklabel=Yes yet. -- Matt Simpson -- OS/390 Support 219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300 University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506 mailto:msimpson;uky.edu mainframe -- An obsolete device still used by thousands of obsolete companies serving billions of obsolete customers and making huge obsolete profits for their obsolete shareholders. And this year's run twice as fast as last year's.
Transferring data from an old server to a new one.
All, We are (finally) doing some upgrades to our TSM system to bring it up to date (and onto a support version of the software). We are planning to go from 3.7.4.0 to 5.1.5.x. Now we will be implementing the new TSM server on a new physical server and using new tape hardware (IBM 3584). Then we can migrate our client systems across from the old server to the new one. Our problem is what to do with the data currently in the old system. We need to be able to restore from any point in the last 5 weeks. Now, I'm sure people have come across this before, what is the best way of doing this? Our initial thoughts were: 1). transfer the data across to the new systems in some way, (server to server connection) ... but we aren't really sure how to do this, (I've done something like it but that was on a course 12 months ago and in a much smaller scale). 2). repoint the client, if a restore is needed, to the old server ... but then we get into issues with software level compatibility's between different client and server releases, (e.g. a 5.1.x client restoring off of a 3.7.4 server) and complications due to using TDP's for Oracle and Domino. Has anyone else been in this situation and what method did they use to get around it? Regards Tim -- Tim Hempstead, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unix Technical Specialist SchlumbergerSema _ This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of SchlumbergerSema. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the SchlumbergerSema Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 121 627 5600. _
Re: Monitoring oracle Backups
Joe,
Our DBA's have their backup scripts send an email with success or failure
messages. The sys admins turn on sendmail on the Solaris servers and have it
forward to our mail servers. We then build distribution lists in sendmail
for the various messaging needs. Here's a sample of the email notification
piece of the RMAN scripts.
###
# Check for errors returned from RMAN
###
if [ $? -gt 0 ];
then
opendb
CURTIME=`date '+%m-%d-%Y %H:%M'`
echo $LogFile
echo Oracle full backup failed for instance \${TARGET_SID}\
$LogFile
echo due to bad return code from RMAN at \${CURTIME}\ $LogFile
mailx -s ${TARGET_SID} full backup failed at: $CURTIME \
rman_backups@sasmcd40 \
/dev/null
exit 2
else
CURTIME=`date '+%m-%d-%Y %H:%M'`
echo $LogFile
echo Full backup of instance \${TARGET_SID}\ $LogFile
echo completed successfully at \${CURTIME}\ $LogFile
mailx -s ${TARGET_SID} full backup succeeded at: $CURTIME \
rman_backups@sasmcd40 \
/dev/null
fi
Eric Cowperthwaite
EDS
-Original Message-
From: Wholey, Joseph (TGA\MLOL) [mailto:JWholey;EXCHANGE.ML.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 6:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Monitoring oracle Backups
Recently installed TDP for Oracle. DBA's would like to be
paged real time if a database backup fails. Aside from the
paging part, does anyone know where I can pull the status of
an Oracle database
backup as soon as it completes. I don't want to extract from
the client logs (when would I start looking?) And the
Activity log does not supply all that much useful
information. Any help would be
greatly appreciated.
thx. -joe-
Oracle 8.1.7 backup failure
Tim, TDP Oracle 2.1.0.9 is a pretty old version of TDP Oracle - there was not real robust logging in that version. A few questions: Is this your only backup that is failing? How about TSM API logging? Some of TDP Oracle log events get logged to the API log file. In the mean time try this: 'ENV=(DSMO_DEBUG=49)'; This will cause TDP Oracle to trace to the sbtio.log file located in the Oracle target db's 'bdump' directory. You can try to analyze this trace file or email it to me and I will take a look at it. In fact we can take this offline from the ListServ and then post our findings at the end. Thanks. -Original Message- From: HEMPSTEAD, Tim [mailto:Tim.HEMPSTEAD;READING.SEMA.SLB.COM] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 5:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Oracle 8.1.7 backup failure People, Anybody have any ideas on how we can fix the following. We have Oracle 8.1.7.0 backing up to TSM 3.7.4 using TDP for Oracle 2.1.0.9 under AIX 4.3.3 ML8. Backup fails with the error message as below after approximately 2hrs and errpt indicates that Oracle core dumps at this time as well. Thanks Tim The error obtained is as follows: RMAN-00571: === RMAN-00569: === ERROR MESSAGE STACK FOLLOWS === RMAN-00571: === RMAN-03015: error occurred in stored script backup_db_level_0 RMAN-03006: non-retryable error occurred during execution of command: backup RMAN-07004: unhandled exception during command execution on channel tape1 RMAN-10035: exception raised in RPC: ORA-00447: fatal error in background process RMAN-10031: ORA-19583 occurred during call to DBMS_BACKUP_RESTORE.BACKUPPIECECREATE -- Tim Hempstead, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unix Technical Specialist SchlumbergerSema Regards, Neil Rasmussen Software Development TDP for Oracle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TSM 4.2.3 on OS/390 2.10
Good morning all, We are currently running TSM 4.2.1.9 on OS/390 2.10 and are having some issues. It has been suggested to us that we upgrade the TSM server to 4.2.3 and I wanted to know if anyone is running that level? I have been told that a data base upgrade is not required to move to this release which is a good thing. If anyone has any experience with this release I'd appreciate comments, suggestions, problems or any information that you can provide. I understand that the only way to get to this release currently is via the fixtest but I am told a PTF will be available soon. Thanks, Brian Brian L. Nick Systems Technician - Storage Solutions The Phoenix Companies Inc. 100 Bright Meadow Blvd Enfield CT. 06082-1900 E-MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PHONE: (860)403-2281
Re: Transferring data from an old server to a new one.
Tim From what kind of server to what kind of server? What kind of disk are you on and how is it attached? Can you attach your old tape hardware to the new one? We moved servers but we were moving AIX to AIX and could just disconnected the disk tsm was on and then reattach to the new server. Another time we did the move we did and export and import of the data. Are you trying to do a new rebuild? Can you start the new server and then just shutdown the old after the 5 weeks? A 5.1 client shouldn't have a problem restoring from a 3.7 server it is just a problem when a 5.1 client backs it up and a lower client tries to restore. Good luck Becky -Original Message- From: HEMPSTEAD, Tim [mailto:Tim.HEMPSTEAD;READING.SEMA.SLB.COM] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 9:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Transferring data from an old server to a new one. All, We are (finally) doing some upgrades to our TSM system to bring it up to date (and onto a support version of the software). We are planning to go from 3.7.4.0 to 5.1.5.x. Now we will be implementing the new TSM server on a new physical server and using new tape hardware (IBM 3584). Then we can migrate our client systems across from the old server to the new one. Our problem is what to do with the data currently in the old system. We need to be able to restore from any point in the last 5 weeks. Now, I'm sure people have come across this before, what is the best way of doing this? Our initial thoughts were: 1). transfer the data across to the new systems in some way, (server to server connection) ... but we aren't really sure how to do this, (I've done something like it but that was on a course 12 months ago and in a much smaller scale). 2). repoint the client, if a restore is needed, to the old server ... but then we get into issues with software level compatibility's between different client and server releases, (e.g. a 5.1.x client restoring off of a 3.7.4 server) and complications due to using TDP's for Oracle and Domino. Has anyone else been in this situation and what method did they use to get around it? Regards Tim -- Tim Hempstead, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unix Technical Specialist SchlumbergerSema _ This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of SchlumbergerSema. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the SchlumbergerSema Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 121 627 5600. _
Migrations
I have a disk pool that is set Migration Continue=no, High Migration=80, Low Migration=60. This disk pool is 390GB in size and every morning when I come in migration is running, and would run till it is empty, I've seen it. I've verified the settings during the migration and I see no reason that this should be happening. The disk fills with SAP R/3 data each evening and some other regular stuff. Has anyone else come across this? I haven't seen the other disk pools I have do this. Geoff Gill TSM Administrator NT Systems Support Engineer SAIC E-Mail:mailto:gillg;saic.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (858) 826-4062 Pager: (877) 905-7154
system object problem
I've heard a great deal of discussion about the system object problem. What server versions is it a problem in? I haven't noticed it so far, but am planning an upgrade and don't want to get myself into unecessary trouble. __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/
Re: Transferring data from an old server to a new one.
One possibility is to connect your old tape drives or the equivalent to the new system, define them as a separate library if that is what you are using, and then restore the database to the new server. Once they are connected, you can used the move data or move node command to transfer the data from the old tapes to the new tapes. Then when all the data is moved, remove the old drives from the system. drawbacks; time necessary to do the moves may exceed the 5 week time frame cost of connecting the old drives to the new server. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/22/02 10:35AM All, We are (finally) doing some upgrades to our TSM system to bring it up to date (and onto a support version of the software). We are planning to go from 3.7.4.0 to 5.1.5.x. Now we will be implementing the new TSM server on a new physical server and using new tape hardware (IBM 3584). Then we can migrate our client systems across from the old server to the new one. Our problem is what to do with the data currently in the old system. We need to be able to restore from any point in the last 5 weeks. Now, I'm sure people have come across this before, what is the best way of doing this? Our initial thoughts were: 1). transfer the data across to the new systems in some way, (server to server connection) ... but we aren't really sure how to do this, (I've done something like it but that was on a course 12 months ago and in a much smaller scale). 2). repoint the client, if a restore is needed, to the old server ... but then we get into issues with software level compatibility's between different client and server releases, (e.g. a 5.1.x client restoring off of a 3.7.4 server) and complications due to using TDP's for Oracle and Domino. Has anyone else been in this situation and what method did they use to get around it? Regards Tim -- Tim Hempstead, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unix Technical Specialist SchlumbergerSema _ This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of SchlumbergerSema. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the SchlumbergerSema Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 121 627 5600. _
Oracle and TDP issues
We just purchased the TSM TDP for Oracle on NT/2K. We installed it, only to realize it won't work since there is no sign of RMAN.EXE on this machine? So, the owner of this box/package contacts the vendor. Their response wasOracle is version 7.3.4, not 8i or 9i, which will not run with their app. said the person she spoke to did not seem to know what RMAN was. So, how does one backup an Oracle app/database, using the TDP without RMAN ? I am not an Oracle person but even I know that RMAN is the utility to do database backup/restore/maintenance ! Suggestions, anyone ?
Re: Reclamation Setting Survey
Just out of curiosity- what are you using for reclamation settings for primary tape pool data? Currently we have over 100 WinNT platforms (all in one policy domain)backing up data (1+ TB incremental) to large primary disk pool, which migrates to primary tape, tape copy, etc... The data is a mix of filesystem incrementals and TDP backup objects (database/exchange). Currently we have our reclamation threshold set to 60, but we're curious to know what other similar environments are successfully using? _ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp
AW: Oracle and TDP issues
AFAIK: The tool to backup a Oracle 7 db is called EBU (Enterprise backup Utility) and seems to be a bit different to RMAN. But you can use TDP for ORACLE to backup version 7 dbs as well. (see installation Guide Page 3). HTH Kind regards Thomas Rupp Vorarlberger Illwerke AG -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Zoltan Forray [mailto:zforray;VCU.EDU] Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. Oktober 2002 16:59 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Oracle and TDP issues We just purchased the TSM TDP for Oracle on NT/2K. We installed it, only to realize it won't work since there is no sign of RMAN.EXE on this machine? So, the owner of this box/package contacts the vendor. Their response wasOracle is version 7.3.4, not 8i or 9i, which will not run with their app. said the person she spoke to did not seem to know what RMAN was. So, how does one backup an Oracle app/database, using the TDP without RMAN ? I am not an Oracle person but even I know that RMAN is the utility to do database backup/restore/maintenance ! Suggestions, anyone ? -- Dieses eMail wurde auf Viren geprueft. Vorarlberger Illwerke AG --
Réf. : Re: Reclamation Setting Survey
On our servers using 9840 tapes, we set it to 40 since the tapes are very fast and we can do alot in one day. On LTO and DLT its usually 50 since it is very long to reclaim tapes. Guillaume Gilbert CGI Canada J M [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 2002-10-22 11:09:12 Veuillez répondre à ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé par : ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pour : [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc : Objet : Re: Reclamation Setting Survey Just out of curiosity- what are you using for reclamation settings for primary tape pool data? Currently we have over 100 WinNT platforms (all in one policy domain)backing up data (1+ TB incremental) to large primary disk pool, which migrates to primary tape, tape copy, etc... The data is a mix of filesystem incrementals and TDP backup objects (database/exchange). Currently we have our reclamation threshold set to 60, but we're curious to know what other similar environments are successfully using? _ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp
Re: Reclamation Setting Survey
I have mutiple TSM environments, and the reclamation for various onsite and off-site tape pools varies from 50 - 80. You set the reclamation limits based on how many scratch tapes you need to get back, the natural turnover rate due to version expiration, or the number of available slots you have in the tape library, or all the above. If you don't need more scratch tapes, why bother to set reclamation lower, etc. So the answer, as usual: it depends on your environment Original Message- From: J M [mailto:jm_seattle;HOTMAIL.COM] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 11:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Reclamation Setting Survey Just out of curiosity- what are you using for reclamation settings for primary tape pool data? Currently we have over 100 WinNT platforms (all in one policy domain)backing up data (1+ TB incremental) to large primary disk pool, which migrates to primary tape, tape copy, etc... The data is a mix of filesystem incrementals and TDP backup objects (database/exchange). Currently we have our reclamation threshold set to 60, but we're curious to know what other similar environments are successfully using? _ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp
Re: Oracle and TDP issues
Our DBAs use BMC software called SQL Backtrack. Josh Zoltan Forray wrote: We just purchased the TSM TDP for Oracle on NT/2K. We installed it, only to realize it won't work since there is no sign of RMAN.EXE on this machine? So, the owner of this box/package contacts the vendor. Their response wasOracle is version 7.3.4, not 8i or 9i, which will not run with their app. said the person she spoke to did not seem to know what RMAN was. So, how does one backup an Oracle app/database, using the TDP without RMAN ? I am not an Oracle person but even I know that RMAN is the utility to do database backup/restore/maintenance ! Suggestions, anyone ? begin:vcard n:Gable;J D tel;fax:(918) 292-5156 tel;work:(918) 292-4159 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Backup and Recovery;Enterprise Coverage version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Infrastructure Specialist adr;quoted-printable:;;EDS=0D=0A4000 North Mingo Road;Tulsa;OK;74116; fn:J D Gable end:vcard
Re: Oracle and TDP issues
Hi Zoltan, I am not Oracle expert too but I think I can give you some clue. Like you should know, in Oracle 8i RMAN appeared replacing to EBU (Enterprise Backup Utility). So, In your case, you have to install EBU (if my mind still works, I think the last EBU version was 2.2) which is included with Oracle 7.x. Actually, TDP for Oracle does not support Oracle 7.x versions and, as far as I know, EBU is also out of support from Oracle side. Anyway, I suggest you to register into Oracle site and search for EBU support. Regards, Rafael -- Mensaje original -- to: Zoltan Forray [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: date: 10/22/2002 11:06:52 AM subject: Oracle and TDP issues We just purchased the TSM TDP for Oracle on NT/2K. We installed it, only to realize it won't work since there is no sign of RMAN.EXE on this machine? So, the owner of this box/package contacts the vendor. Their response wasOracle is version 7.3.4, not 8i or 9i, which will not run with their app. said the person she spoke to did not seem to know what RMAN was. So, how does one backup an Oracle app/database, using the TDP without RMAN ? I am not an Oracle person but even I know that RMAN is the utility to do database backup/restore/maintenance ! Suggestions, anyone ? ___ Obtin gratis tu cuenta de correo en StarMedia Email. !Regmstrate hoy mismo!. http://www.starmedia.com/email
Re: Migrations
I suspect what is happening is that as you say the SAP fills the disk pool. So when migration starts and after it gets below the lowmig point, it will keep going bascially till it migrates the data for the current node's data it was working on when it hit the lowmig point. So if this was a large amount of data, essentially it would empty the disk pool. David B. Longo System Administrator Health First, Inc. 3300 Fiske Blvd. Rockledge, FL 32955-4305 PH 321.434.5536 Pager 321.634.8230 Fax:321.434.5509 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/22/02 10:00AM I have a disk pool that is set Migration Continue=no, High Migration=80, Low Migration=60. This disk pool is 390GB in size and every morning when I come in migration is running, and would run till it is empty, I've seen it. I've verified the settings during the migration and I see no reason that this should be happening. The disk fills with SAP R/3 data each evening and some other regular stuff. Has anyone else come across this? I haven't seen the other disk pools I have do this. Geoff Gill TSM Administrator NT Systems Support Engineer SAIC E-Mail:mailto:gillg;saic.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (858) 826-4062 Pager: (877) 905-7154 MMS health-first.org made the following annotations on 10/22/2002 11:28:48 AM -- This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it, and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Health First reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the individual sender, except (1) where the message states such views or opinions are on behalf of a particular entity; and (2) the sender is authorized by the entity to give such views or opinions. ==
Re: Migrations
Yep, this tends to happen when you have only a small number of large clients in a disk pool. When the disk pool fills above the HIGHMIG value and triggers a migration, TSM picks the LARGEST CLIENT (or maybe the largest filespace, I forget) in the pool and migrates that WHOLE chunk out. Then TSM checks to see it's below LOWMIG yet. If not, it picks the next largest client and migrates that one. So if all the remaining data in the disk pool belongs to one client, it can go down to 0. Working as designed. -Original Message- From: Gill, Geoffrey L. [mailto:GEOFFREY.L.GILL;SAIC.COM] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Migrations I have a disk pool that is set Migration Continue=no, High Migration=80, Low Migration=60. This disk pool is 390GB in size and every morning when I come in migration is running, and would run till it is empty, I've seen it. I've verified the settings during the migration and I see no reason that this should be happening. The disk fills with SAP R/3 data each evening and some other regular stuff. Has anyone else come across this? I haven't seen the other disk pools I have do this. Geoff Gill TSM Administrator NT Systems Support Engineer SAIC E-Mail:mailto:gillg;saic.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (858) 826-4062 Pager: (877) 905-7154
Re: Oracle and TDP issues
Zoltan, You can't Oracle using the TDP without RMAN. There are many people who write their own scripts to backup Oracle. You can backup a tablespace at a time, by puttting the tablespace in backup mode and then using a SELECTIVE backup on the tablespace (which is a file.) You could write a script to do this, one tablespace at a time. The biggest problem we have encountered doing this, is that when a new tablespace is added to the database, you must be sure to modify your backup script accordingly. Laura Buckley STORServer, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L;VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Zoltan Forray Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 8:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Oracle and TDP issues We just purchased the TSM TDP for Oracle on NT/2K. We installed it, only to realize it won't work since there is no sign of RMAN.EXE on this machine? So, the owner of this box/package contacts the vendor. Their response wasOracle is version 7.3.4, not 8i or 9i, which will not run with their app. said the person she spoke to did not seem to know what RMAN was. So, how does one backup an Oracle app/database, using the TDP without RMAN ? I am not an Oracle person but even I know that RMAN is the utility to do database backup/restore/maintenance ! Suggestions, anyone ?
Re: Audit Library question.
With checklabel=barcode, what happens is that TSM reads the internal memory of the library as to what the library's inventory says is where. So generally that won't take long. And a drive needs to be available for the case where library had a problem reading a barcode label, that tape can be mounted in a tape drive to verify - even if using checkl=b. David B. Longo System Administrator Health First, Inc. 3300 Fiske Blvd. Rockledge, FL 32955-4305 PH 321.434.5536 Pager 321.634.8230 Fax:321.434.5509 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/22/02 08:27AM At 10:41 AM -0500 10/18/02, Todd Lundstedt said: How long should the command Audit Library LibName CheckLabel=BARCODE take to process. I have less than 200 tapes in the library. I have done this before and it took less than 5 mins. This one has been running for over 40 minutes now. Our situation is just the opposite. We have a 3584 library connected to TSM 4.2.2.0 on Solaris. Audit Library LibName CheckLabel=BARCODE completes in a few seconds, with no movement of the library robotics. It doesn't appear to be checking any barcodes at all. I haven't tried it with CHecklabel=Yes yet. -- Matt Simpson -- OS/390 Support 219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300 University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506 mailto:msimpson;uky.edu mainframe -- An obsolete device still used by thousands of obsolete companies serving billions of obsolete customers and making huge obsolete profits for their obsolete shareholders. And this year's run twice as fast as last year's. MMS health-first.org made the following annotations on 10/22/2002 11:30:57 AM -- This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it, and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Health First reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the individual sender, except (1) where the message states such views or opinions are on behalf of a particular entity; and (2) the sender is authorized by the entity to give such views or opinions. ==
Re: System Object expiration with 4.2.30
Have you done cleanup backupgroups? Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Jolliff, Dale [mailto:xjolliff;TI.COM] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 4:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: System Object expiration with 4.2.30 Has anyone seen positive confirmation of successful SYSTEM OBJECT expiration after upgrading to 4.2.3.0? I applied 4.2.3.0 to a netstor box this morning, and two expire inventory runs have completed successfully, but I have not seen any substantial change in our SYSTEM OBJECT problem.
Re: Encryption
Dwight, You are correct that compressed data would not encrypt well, since TSM uses a compression algorithm that works well with redundant data (and compression kills redundancy) - but, the TSM b/a client does in fact compress first and then encrypt the data to avoid this. So go ahead and use both encryption and compression if you would like. I don't have any performance data from development on the b/a client using encryption. What we did test in development was the b/a client vs. plain DES 56-bit encryption algorithms to make sure the client was not adding unnecessary overhead. DES is allot of number crunching, and it is by nature very CPU intensive and will slow the b/a client down noticeably. Thanks, Jim Smith TSM Client Development Been a while and I'd have to double check but... You might not want to use compression if you use encryption... I believe it encrypts first then tries to compress and encrypted data doesn't compress (much). Something to double check. Dwight -Original Message- From: J D Gable [mailto:josh.gable;eds.com] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 4:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Encryption Does anybody have any evidence/research as to what kind of additional overhead encryption puts on a client when processing a backup (CPU, Memory, etc.)? I am running some tests myself, but the numbers are staggering (we're seeing up to a 300% increase in the backup time in some cases). I understand that it is largely based on the horsepower of the node, but I was wondering if anyone else is seeing the same, or if anyone knew a place I could get some additional info on encryption. Thanks in advance for your time, Josh
Re: System Object expiration with 4.2.30
We haven't - level two asked me not to. He asked me to open another PMR about it this morning, and said he has seen some other customers with the similar conditions. -Original Message- From: Seay, Paul [mailto:seay_pd;NAPTHEON.COM] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 9:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: System Object expiration with 4.2.30 Have you done cleanup backupgroups? Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Jolliff, Dale [mailto:xjolliff;TI.COM] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 4:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: System Object expiration with 4.2.30 Has anyone seen positive confirmation of successful SYSTEM OBJECT expiration after upgrading to 4.2.3.0? I applied 4.2.3.0 to a netstor box this morning, and two expire inventory runs have completed successfully, but I have not seen any substantial change in our SYSTEM OBJECT problem.
Re: can not backup nds with netware client 5.1.5
I have an ETR open with IBM on this, but just had to bump it from sev 3 to sev 2 because no one has responded since I opened it on Thurs. a.m. You can run a manual and it works, tsm i nds Tim Brown wrote: have seen this problem reported recently, just throwing in my complaint netware 5.1 server, service pack4 with tsm client 5.1.5 unable to specify nds in domain statement DOMAIN ALL-LOCAL NDS also tried DOMAIN ALL-LOCAL DIR ANS1036S Invalid option 'DOMAIN' found in options file Tim Brown Systems Specialist Central Hudson Gas Electric 284 South Avenue Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Phone: 845-486-5643 Fax: 845-486-5921 Pager: 845-455-6985 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jim Kirkman AIS - Systems UNC-Chapel Hill 966-5884
Re: dismiss dsmadmc header output
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L;VM.MARIST.EDU]On Behalf Of Michael Kindermann Is there a way, something like a switch or an option, to influence the dsmadmc-output, to give only the interesting result and no overhead ? Trying to scripting some task in a shell-script. And iam a little anoyed, becaus it not very difficult to get some output from the dsmserver. But it is to reuse the information in the script. Lo, and the great god UNIX made grep, and it was good. And grep begat awk, and sed. And sed lived 376 years, and begat Perl, and Python. And it was good and there was joy in all the land. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Certified TSM consultant Certified AIX system engineer MCSE
Re: Oracle and TDP issues
We do too, on an AIX system. J D Gable [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/22/2002 11:20 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Oracle and TDP issues Our DBAs use BMC software called SQL Backtrack. Josh Zoltan Forray wrote: We just purchased the TSM TDP for Oracle on NT/2K. We installed it, only to realize it won't work since there is no sign of RMAN.EXE on this machine? So, the owner of this box/package contacts the vendor. Their response wasOracle is version 7.3.4, not 8i or 9i, which will not run with their app. said the person she spoke to did not seem to know what RMAN was. So, how does one backup an Oracle app/database, using the TDP without RMAN ? I am not an Oracle person but even I know that RMAN is the utility to do database backup/restore/maintenance ! Suggestions, anyone ? josh.gable.vcf Description: Binary data
Re: Migrations
Gill, Geoffrey L. wrote: I have a disk pool that is set Migration Continue=no, High Migration=80, Low Migration=60. This disk pool is 390GB in size and every morning when I come in migration is running, and would run till it is empty, I've seen it. I've verified the settings during the migration and I see no reason that this should be happening. The disk fills with SAP R/3 data each evening and some other regular stuff. Has anyone else come across this? I haven't seen the other disk pools I have do this. Geoff Gill TSM Administrator NT Systems Support Engineer SAIC E-Mail:mailto:gillg;saic.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (858) 826-4062 Pager: (877) 905-7154 Geoff, Based on the information your are giving me I might offer this explanation. First of all MIGContinue only has meaning if you have MIGDelay set to something other than 0, but I don't think that is a factor here. The way migration works is as follows: 1. Once stg_pool utilization exceeds the HIghmig value a migration process or processes are started. 2. ITSM will pick the largest single filespace backup (or archive package) in the stg_pool and move it AND all of the other filespaces for that node. 3. Once all data for that node has been moved for that node ITSM checks to see if stg_pool utilization is below the LOwmig value if not then go back to step 2. There is a bit of a difference in this process if you use MIGDelay and MIGContinue, I have posted on that process several times before so I want go through it all again. I am guessing that since this stg_pool is for your SAP data which is probably quite large that what you are seeing is a single node with data that is a very large portion of the stg_pool space. And therefore, once ITSM starts to migrate it's data it will continue way past the low threshold. As you can see above, ITSM does not check LOwmig until after it moves all data for a given node. I beleive this is waht you are seeing. -- Regards, Mark D. Rodriguez President MDR Consulting, Inc. === MDR Consulting The very best in Technical Training and Consulting. IBM Advanced Business Partner SAIR Linux and GNU Authorized Center for Education IBM Certified Advanced Technical Expert, CATE AIX Support and Performance Tuning, RS6000 SP, TSM/ADSM and Linux Red Hat Certified Engineer, RHCE ===
Re: Audit Library question.
At 11:29 AM -0400 10/22/02, David Longo said: With checklabel=barcode, what happens is that TSM reads the internal memory of the library as to what the library's inventory says is where. So checklabel=barcode doesn't really mean read the barcodes? It just means check the library's internal memory? I guess that's still useful in some circumstances, if there'e a possibility that TSM and the library have gotten out of sync. But it would be nice if things mean what they say. Suppose I really want it to read the barcodes? Suppose I think the library's internal memory has gotten confused somehow, and I want to do a physical audit of barcode locations to compare with the internal memory? Is this possible? Or is it a function of the library (which I guess might make more sense). So generally that won't take long. And a drive needs to be available for the case where library had a problem reading a barcode label, that tape can be mounted in a tape drive to verify - even if using checkl=b. But how can it have a problem reading the barcode label if check-=b doesn't even try to read the labels? -- Matt Simpson -- OS/390 Support 219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300 University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506 mailto:msimpson;uky.edu mainframe -- An obsolete device still used by thousands of obsolete companies serving billions of obsolete customers and making huge obsolete profits for their obsolete shareholders. And this year's run twice as fast as last year's.
Re: dismiss dsmadmc header output
My favorite way is to use a keyword on the beginning of each output line and then either use grep, read, or a string match in perl to only pick the lines that have the goodies. The following select is an example: Select 'keyout', node_name, filespace_name, capacity, pct_util from filespaces Generates all the garbage and output lines like this. keyoutN07139\\n07139\c$ 28.2 Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Mark Stapleton [mailto:stapleto;BERBEE.COM] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 12:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: dismiss dsmadmc header output From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L;VM.MARIST.EDU]On Behalf Of Michael Kindermann Is there a way, something like a switch or an option, to influence the dsmadmc-output, to give only the interesting result and no overhead ? Trying to scripting some task in a shell-script. And iam a little anoyed, becaus it not very difficult to get some output from the dsmserver. But it is to reuse the information in the script. Lo, and the great god UNIX made grep, and it was good. And grep begat awk, and sed. And sed lived 376 years, and begat Perl, and Python. And it was good and there was joy in all the land. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Certified TSM consultant Certified AIX system engineer MCSE
Re: dismiss dsmadmc header output
And while the great god UNIX was doing that, some programmer at ADSM coded dsmadmc ... -tab -outfile=whatever and dsmadmc ... -comma -outfile=whaterver Which can also be used with filename instead of the outfile. At 11:07 AM 10/22/2002 -0500, you wrote: From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L;VM.MARIST.EDU]On Behalf Of Michael Kindermann Is there a way, something like a switch or an option, to influence the dsmadmc-output, to give only the interesting result and no overhead ? Trying to scripting some task in a shell-script. And iam a little anoyed, becaus it not very difficult to get some output from the dsmserver. But it is to reuse the information in the script. Lo, and the great god UNIX made grep, and it was good. And grep begat awk, and sed. And sed lived 376 years, and begat Perl, and Python. And it was good and there was joy in all the land. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Certified TSM consultant Certified AIX system engineer MCSE
Re: RAID5 in TSM
At 9:27 AM -0400 10/22/02, Lawrence Clark said: Even though there may be a slight performance hit on writes, I've placed the TSM DB on RAID-5 to ensure availability and no down time in case of a disk loss. With RAID 5, is there any point in software mirroring (dual copies of database)? Our DB is on RAID5 (Shark). We also have 2 copies of it, except for one extent that we added in a crunch when it filled up. Are the dual copies overkill on RAID 5? I know that even RAID is not totally infallible, and we could have a potential disaster that wipes out the whole Shark. But that's why we have backups. The chances of that are pretty slim, and I can't imagine any scenario where we could have a RAID failure that wouldn't leave us so dead that we'd have to restore anyway. -- Matt Simpson -- OS/390 Support 219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300 University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506 mailto:msimpson;uky.edu mainframe -- An obsolete device still used by thousands of obsolete companies serving billions of obsolete customers and making huge obsolete profits for their obsolete shareholders. And this year's run twice as fast as last year's.
Re: Audit Library question.
I imagine the checkl=barocde was introduced to shorten audit, without it you would have to mount every tape in library - which would take some considerable time with some libraries! What you are doing is checkinbg the barcode label in library memory as opposed to checking the magnetic tape label header. The ideal short way is to have the library do it's inventory, which reads barcodes and is quick, then do audit with checkl=barcode. Whole process shouldn't take more than a few minutes - there may be some library units that take longer. This complete process should take care of anything that has gotten out of sync. I have had a few cases where there was still something out of sync and had to do detailed examination to correct. It can have a problem reading the barcode if the laser scanner couldn't read the label. That can happen some times - especially if you don't use original manufacturers labels. If you have AIX server and use tapeutil with inventory action, it will show the slot status for tapes like these in abnormal status. When the audit with checkl=barcode runs it finds this and no barcode label for that slot and mounts the tape in that slot to read the magnetic label and update TSM's inventory. A brief overview as I have seen it in action many times. David B. Longo System Administrator Health First, Inc. 3300 Fiske Blvd. Rockledge, FL 32955-4305 PH 321.434.5536 Pager 321.634.8230 Fax:321.434.5509 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/22/02 01:44PM At 11:29 AM -0400 10/22/02, David Longo said: With checklabel=barcode, what happens is that TSM reads the internal memory of the library as to what the library's inventory says is where. So checklabel=barcode doesn't really mean read the barcodes? It just means check the library's internal memory? I guess that's still useful in some circumstances, if there'e a possibility that TSM and the library have gotten out of sync. But it would be nice if things mean what they say. Suppose I really want it to read the barcodes? Suppose I think the library's internal memory has gotten confused somehow, and I want to do a physical audit of barcode locations to compare with the internal memory? Is this possible? Or is it a function of the library (which I guess might make more sense). So generally that won't take long. And a drive needs to be available for the case where library had a problem reading a barcode label, that tape can be mounted in a tape drive to verify - even if using checkl=b. But how can it have a problem reading the barcode label if check-=b doesn't even try to read the labels? -- Matt Simpson -- OS/390 Support 219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300 University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506 mailto:msimpson;uky.edu mainframe -- An obsolete device still used by thousands of obsolete companies serving billions of obsolete customers and making huge obsolete profits for their obsolete shareholders. And this year's run twice as fast as last year's. MMS health-first.org made the following annotations on 10/22/2002 02:04:16 PM -- This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it, and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Health First reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the individual sender, except (1) where the message states such views or opinions are on behalf of a particular entity; and (2) the sender is authorized by the entity to give such views or opinions. ==
Re: Audit Library question.
Not true... With checklabel=barcode, all of the barcodes are read. This is then checked with the internal memory of the library as to what the library's inventory says is where. The tape is mounted, only if the barcode is mis-read. Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/22/2002 10:44:50 AM At 11:29 AM -0400 10/22/02, David Longo said: With checklabel=barcode, what happens is that TSM reads the internal memory of the library as to what the library's inventory says is where. So checklabel=barcode doesn't really mean read the barcodes? It just means check the library's internal memory? I guess that's still useful in some circumstances, if there'e a possibility that TSM and the library have gotten out of sync. But it would be nice if things mean what they say. Suppose I really want it to read the barcodes? Suppose I think the library's internal memory has gotten confused somehow, and I want to do a physical audit of barcode locations to compare with the internal memory? Is this possible? Or is it a function of the library (which I guess might make more sense). So generally that won't take long. And a drive needs to be available for the case where library had a problem reading a barcode label, that tape can be mounted in a tape drive to verify - even if using checkl=b. But how can it have a problem reading the barcode label if check-=b doesn't even try to read the labels? -- Matt Simpson -- OS/390 Support 219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300 University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506 mailto:msimpson;uky.edu mainframe -- An obsolete device still used by thousands of obsolete companies serving billions of obsolete customers and making huge obsolete profits for their obsolete shareholders. And this year's run twice as fast as last year's. - This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately. - GWIASIG 0.07
Re: RAID5 in TSM
Are you running compression? Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Raghu S [mailto:raghu;COSMOS.DCMDS.CO.IN] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 8:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RAID5 in TSM Hi, There was a lot of discussion on this topic before.But i am requesting TSM gurus give their comments again. The set up is like this. TSM Server : Windows NT 4.0 SP6, TSM 5.1.0.0 392 MB memory, P III Adaptech Ultra SCSI Hard Disk : Internal Hardware RAID 5: array A : 8.678GB * 3 : 17.356GB data and 8.678 GB parity array B : 35.003 GB * 3 : 70.006GB data and 35.003 GB parity. Both array A and array B are connected to the same channel. OS and TSM 5.1 are installed on array A TSM data base, recovery log and Disk storage pool are installed in array B. Database : 2GB+2GB = 4 GB and mirrored at TSM level on the same array Recovery Log : 500MB + 500 MB = 1 GB and mirrored at TSM level on the same array Disk Storage pool : 10GB+10GB+10GB+10GB+5GB=45GB on array B TSM client: 4.1.2.12 ( Tivoli says 4.1.2.12 is not supported with 5.1 Server. But i could take the backup,archive and restore with this combination ) Number of Clients : 55, all are windows Incremental backup : 1GB/ client/day. backup window : 9AM to 6PM with 50% randamization ( all are in polling mode ) LAN : 100Mbps End of the day only 10 clients could finish the backup.Remaining all are missing or ? ( in progress ) or failed. Through the entire backup window the CPU load is 100% with dsmsvc.exe holding 98% I tested with various options. I stopped the schedular and fired 3 clients backup manually at the same time.Each client has 1 GB of incremental data. It took three hours to finish the backup. While backing up i observed there was lot of idletime outs of sessions. Network choke is not there. I checked this with FTP. Whats the bottleneck here? Is RAID 5 is creating problems ( DB,log and storage pool all are on the RAID 5 )? I asked the customer to arrange a testing machine without any RAID. I will be getting that in two days.Before going on to the testing i like to know your comments on this. Regards Raghu S Nivas Consultant - TSM DCM Data Systems Ltd New Delhi India.
Re: Reclamation Setting Survey
TSM 4.1.5 on AIX 4.3.3 We set primary pools to reclaim at 50%. That's 3570 and LTO media. Our DLT copypool reclaims at 60% during our weekly maintenance window. Tab Trepagnier TSM Administrator Laitram Corporation J M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/22/2002 10:09 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Reclamation Setting Survey Just out of curiosity- what are you using for reclamation settings for primary tape pool data? _ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp
Re: os/2 a supported client?
Sorry, OS/2 (BTW: IBMs OWN operating system!!) is no longer supported! : -(( The latest client version is v3.7.2.27, you can find it here: ftp://index.storsys.ibm.com/tivoli-storage-management/patches/client/v3r7/OS2/ This client works only up to a v4.2.x TSM server, NOT with v5.1 or higher! At least this is what we found out when we first tried to connect a v3.7 OS/2 client to a v5.1 TSM server for Windows. This is very sad because we still have dozend of customers with hundreds of OS/2 systems that can't move to TSM v5.1... Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Met vriendelijke groeten, With best regards, Bien amicalement, CU/2, Dirk Billerbeck Dirk Billerbeck GE CompuNet Kiel Enterprise Computing Solutions Am Jaegersberg 20, 24161 Altenholz (Kiel), Germany Phone: +49 (0) 431 / 3609 - 117, Fax: +49 (0) 431 / 3609 - 190, Internet: dirk.billerbeck @ gecits-eu.com This email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information contained in it. If you have received this mail in error, please tell us immediately by return email and delete the document. [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 21.10.2002 17:48:45 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailbox.dekelnsm cc: Subject: os/2 a supported client? -- Is OS/2 a supported TSM client? I can't find info on the web site to say that, but have found several old posts in the ADSM-L archives to suggest that it may be. M. __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/
Re: Audit Library question.
The reason I started the audit was because TSM was not reporting the tape in the library, yet the library knew the tape was inserted. I could see the tape in the library (with my own eyes). Using the manual operations | move tape functions from the LCD display on the library, the library was able to move the tape out and back into the library. But Query LIBVolume did not show the tape in the library. I thought Audit Library with checklabel=barcode should fix it, but after 2 hours, the process hadn't ended. So I cancelled it. What I ended up doing was manually removed the tape (via the move tape functions from the LCD panel of the library), and then turned around and did a Checkin process for the tapes in the Bulk I/O slots. After that, the query libvolume command reported the tape in the library. This tells me that there is/was no problem with the barcode, or the reader, and possibly even the library memory (since the library knew it had the tape all along). Something funky going on with the Audit Library process, for sure. |+-- || David Longo | || David.Longo@HEALTH-| || FIRST.ORG | || Sent by: ADSM: Dist| || Stor Manager | || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| || U | || | || | || 10/22/2002 01:02 PM | || Please respond to | || ADSM: Dist Stor| || Manager| || | |+-- ---| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Fax to: | | Subject: Re: Audit Library question. | ---| I imagine the checkl=barocde was introduced to shorten audit, without it you would have to mount every tape in library - which would take some considerable time with some libraries! What you are doing is checkinbg the barcode label in library memory as opposed to checking the magnetic tape label header. The ideal short way is to have the library do it's inventory, which reads barcodes and is quick, then do audit with checkl=barcode. Whole process shouldn't take more than a few minutes - there may be some library units that take longer. This complete process should take care of anything that has gotten out of sync. I have had a few cases where there was still something out of sync and had to do detailed examination to correct. It can have a problem reading the barcode if the laser scanner couldn't read the label. That can happen some times - especially if you don't use original manufacturers labels. If you have AIX server and use tapeutil with inventory action, it will show the slot status for tapes like these in abnormal status. When the audit with checkl=barcode runs it finds this and no barcode label for that slot and mounts the tape in that slot to read the magnetic label and update TSM's inventory. A brief overview as I have seen it in action many times. David B. Longo System Administrator Health First, Inc. 3300 Fiske Blvd. Rockledge, FL 32955-4305 PH 321.434.5536 Pager 321.634.8230 Fax:321.434.5509 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/22/02 01:44PM At 11:29 AM -0400 10/22/02, David Longo said: With checklabel=barcode, what happens is that TSM reads the internal memory of the library as to what the library's inventory says is where. So checklabel=barcode doesn't really mean read the barcodes? It just means check the library's internal memory? I guess that's still useful in some circumstances, if there'e a possibility that TSM and the library have gotten out of sync. But it would be nice if things mean what they say. Suppose I really want it to read the barcodes? Suppose I think the library's internal memory has gotten confused somehow, and I want to do a physical audit of barcode locations to compare with the internal memory? Is this possible? Or is it a function of the library (which I guess might make more sense). So generally that won't take long. And a drive needs to be available for the case where library had a problem
Re: Audit Library question.
Not true on my library, Ken... I have run several audits using checklabel=barcode before with success. The arm has never moved in the library with an audit using checkl=b. |+ || KEN HORACEK | || KHORACEK@INCS| || YSTEM.COM| || Sent by: | || ADSM: Dist | || Stor Manager | || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| || IST.EDU | ||| ||| || 10/22/2002| || 01:03 PM | || Please respond| || to ADSM: Dist| || Stor Manager | ||| |+ ---| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Fax to: | | Subject: Re: Audit Library question. | ---| Not true... With checklabel=barcode, all of the barcodes are read. This is then checked with the internal memory of the library as to what the library's inventory says is where. The tape is mounted, only if the barcode is mis-read. Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/22/2002 10:44:50 AM At 11:29 AM -0400 10/22/02, David Longo said: With checklabel=barcode, what happens is that TSM reads the internal memory of the library as to what the library's inventory says is where. So checklabel=barcode doesn't really mean read the barcodes? It just means check the library's internal memory? I guess that's still useful in some circumstances, if there'e a possibility that TSM and the library have gotten out of sync. But it would be nice if things mean what they say. Suppose I really want it to read the barcodes? Suppose I think the library's internal memory has gotten confused somehow, and I want to do a physical audit of barcode locations to compare with the internal memory? Is this possible? Or is it a function of the library (which I guess might make more sense). So generally that won't take long. And a drive needs to be available for the case where library had a problem reading a barcode label, that tape can be mounted in a tape drive to verify - even if using checkl=b. But how can it have a problem reading the barcode label if check-=b doesn't even try to read the labels? -- Matt Simpson -- OS/390 Support 219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300 University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506 mailto:msimpson;uky.edu mainframe -- An obsolete device still used by thousands of obsolete companies serving billions of obsolete customers and making huge obsolete profits for their obsolete shareholders. And this year's run twice as fast as last year's. - This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately. - GWIASIG 0.07
TSM OS390 jump from 4.1.4 to 4.2.2.13 concerns
As you recall, I just jumped my OS390 server from 4.1.4 to 4.2.2.13. Well, this weekend was the first EXPIRE INVENTORY run since the upgrade. Now, I am finding hundreds of tapes needing recycling. In fact, I am going to need to bump my reclaimation threshold or reclaim will run until doomsday and monopolize my tape drives ! Was there a major bug fixed somewhere in this version-span-upgrade or should I be concerned ? I went back and checked my logs for the EXPIRE INVENTORY finished message over the last 2-weeks and the ### of items expired hasn't changed, greatly (around 2-3M). The database %UTILIZED hasn't changed, greatly, either.
Re: Audit Library question.
All depends on your type of library ! IBM 3494-L12 To get the atl to actually scan the barcodes of the tapes you must go to the operator console and do a command, inventory, inventory update full or something close to that (changes across levels of the library manager code) then inside tsm an audit library checklabel=barcode only checks against the library manager's data base. Dwight -Original Message- From: KEN HORACEK [mailto:KHORACEK;INCSYSTEM.COM] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 1:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Audit Library question. Not true... With checklabel=barcode, all of the barcodes are read. This is then checked with the internal memory of the library as to what the library's inventory says is where. The tape is mounted, only if the barcode is mis-read. Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/22/2002 10:44:50 AM At 11:29 AM -0400 10/22/02, David Longo said: With checklabel=barcode, what happens is that TSM reads the internal memory of the library as to what the library's inventory says is where. So checklabel=barcode doesn't really mean read the barcodes? It just means check the library's internal memory? I guess that's still useful in some circumstances, if there'e a possibility that TSM and the library have gotten out of sync. But it would be nice if things mean what they say. Suppose I really want it to read the barcodes? Suppose I think the library's internal memory has gotten confused somehow, and I want to do a physical audit of barcode locations to compare with the internal memory? Is this possible? Or is it a function of the library (which I guess might make more sense). So generally that won't take long. And a drive needs to be available for the case where library had a problem reading a barcode label, that tape can be mounted in a tape drive to verify - even if using checkl=b. But how can it have a problem reading the barcode label if check-=b doesn't even try to read the labels? -- Matt Simpson -- OS/390 Support 219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300 University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506 mailto:msimpson;uky.edu mainframe -- An obsolete device still used by thousands of obsolete companies serving billions of obsolete customers and making huge obsolete profits for their obsolete shareholders. And this year's run twice as fast as last year's. - This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately. - GWIASIG 0.07
Re: 3590 Firmware
A little off base? Yes and no. My CE will gladly do FMR microcode updates (for a fee). You can download them from index.storsys.ibm.com/3590/code3590 (well this is where I get them for AIX) and be aware that you may also need some compatable level of Atape driver too (See index.storsys.ibm.com/devdrvr/AIX/ ) you will need to use the tapeutil program to load the microcode to your drives one at a time and then reset them. Lloyd Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/20/02 08:31 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:3590 Firmware All, We recently replaced a set of 3590B drives with H's in a 3494. During the upgrade, I inquired of the CEs regarding what the latest firmware was, and if they could verify that the upgraded drives had the latest code. The reply I received was that the procedures for 3590 firmware updates had changed, and that the customer is now responsible for obtaining the FMR tape. Anytime in the past I have gone through firmware updates on 3590 drives, the CE always provided/created the FMR tape. A quick check around the web site doesn't seem to indicate anything new along these lines, nor does a visit to index.storsys. When I asked one of the CEs for the procedure for getting the code, he provided me with an e-mail address of someone within IBM. I fired one off to him, along with the information I was told I required (Co. name, drive SN, etc.), but have received no reply. Has anyone else heard this, or are these guys a little off base? -Lloyd -- - Lloyd Dieter- Senior Technology Consultant Synergy, Inc. http://www.synergyinc.cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Main:585-389-1260fax:585-389-1267 -
Space Reclamation Failing
Hi All, Running TSM V5.1.0 on Windows 2000 server SP2. Started running Space Reclamation process on the Tape Volumes. The process runs for a while moves some data and then just stops. Tried to cancel process, it remains pending but doesn't stop. What could be possibly wrong ?? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Prasanna Ghanekar EDS Get 250 full-color business cards FREE right now! http://businesscards.lycos.com
Re: RAID5 in TSM
Realistically, if Array B dies, you lose the Database and recovery log. The mirroring ain 't giving you protection from that. I would separate the recovery log to array A and lose the mirroring on both DB and log(maybe mirror log between arrays). Restoration of a broken DB should only mean a couple hours outage, in your case. On Wed, 2002-10-23 at 01:03, Raghu S wrote: Hi, There was a lot of discussion on this topic before.But i am requesting TSM gurus give their comments again. The set up is like this. TSM Server : Windows NT 4.0 SP6, TSM 5.1.0.0 392 MB memory, P III Adaptech Ultra SCSI Hard Disk : Internal Hardware RAID 5: array A : 8.678GB * 3 : 17.356GB data and 8.678 GB parity array B : 35.003 GB * 3 : 70.006GB data and 35.003 GB parity. Both array A and array B are connected to the same channel. OS and TSM 5.1 are installed on array A TSM data base, recovery log and Disk storage pool are installed in array B. Database : 2GB+2GB = 4 GB and mirrored at TSM level on the same array Recovery Log : 500MB + 500 MB = 1 GB and mirrored at TSM level on the same array Disk Storage pool : 10GB+10GB+10GB+10GB+5GB=45GB on array B TSM client: 4.1.2.12 ( Tivoli says 4.1.2.12 is not supported with 5.1 Server. But i could take the backup,archive and restore with this combination ) Number of Clients : 55, all are windows Incremental backup : 1GB/ client/day. backup window : 9AM to 6PM with 50% randamization ( all are in polling mode ) LAN : 100Mbps End of the day only 10 clients could finish the backup.Remaining all are missing or ? ( in progress ) or failed. Through the entire backup window the CPU load is 100% with dsmsvc.exe holding 98% I tested with various options. I stopped the schedular and fired 3 clients backup manually at the same time.Each client has 1 GB of incremental data. It took three hours to finish the backup. While backing up i observed there was lot of idletime outs of sessions. Network choke is not there. I checked this with FTP. Whats the bottleneck here? Is RAID 5 is creating problems ( DB,log and storage pool all are on the RAID 5 )? I asked the customer to arrange a testing machine without any RAID. I will be getting that in two days.Before going on to the testing i like to know your comments on this. Regards Raghu S Nivas Consultant - TSM DCM Data Systems Ltd New Delhi India.
Re: Audit Library question.
Not so here with an ATL 7100 checklabel=barcode and it Always moves up and down the rows, can only assume it is reading as it goes. Jim Murray Senior Systems Engineer Liberty Bank 860.638.2919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand. -Confucius -Original Message- From: Todd Lundstedt [mailto:Todd_Lundstedt;VIA-CHRISTI.ORG] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 14:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Audit Library question. Not true on my library, Ken... I have run several audits using checklabel=barcode before with success. The arm has never moved in the library with an audit using checkl=b. |+ || KEN HORACEK | || KHORACEK@INCS| || YSTEM.COM| || Sent by: | || ADSM: Dist | || Stor Manager | || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| || IST.EDU | ||| ||| || 10/22/2002| || 01:03 PM | || Please respond| || to ADSM: Dist| || Stor Manager | ||| |+ --- | | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Fax to: | | Subject: Re: Audit Library question. | --- | Not true... With checklabel=barcode, all of the barcodes are read. This is then checked with the internal memory of the library as to what the library's inventory says is where. The tape is mounted, only if the barcode is mis-read. Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/22/2002 10:44:50 AM At 11:29 AM -0400 10/22/02, David Longo said: With checklabel=barcode, what happens is that TSM reads the internal memory of the library as to what the library's inventory says is where. So checklabel=barcode doesn't really mean read the barcodes? It just means check the library's internal memory? I guess that's still useful in some circumstances, if there'e a possibility that TSM and the library have gotten out of sync. But it would be nice if things mean what they say. Suppose I really want it to read the barcodes? Suppose I think the library's internal memory has gotten confused somehow, and I want to do a physical audit of barcode locations to compare with the internal memory? Is this possible? Or is it a function of the library (which I guess might make more sense). So generally that won't take long. And a drive needs to be available for the case where library had a problem reading a barcode label, that tape can be mounted in a tape drive to verify - even if using checkl=b. But how can it have a problem reading the barcode label if check-=b doesn't even try to read the labels? -- Matt Simpson -- OS/390 Support 219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300 University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506 mailto:msimpson;uky.edu mainframe -- An obsolete device still used by thousands of obsolete companies serving billions of obsolete customers and making huge obsolete profits for their obsolete shareholders. And this year's run twice as fast as last year's. - This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately. - GWIASIG 0.07 The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company.
Re: Audit Library question.
At 11:03 AM -0700 10/22/02, KEN HORACEK said: With checklabel=barcode, all of the barcodes are read. This is then checked with the internal memory of the library as to what the library's inventory says is where. That's not what I'm seeing, and that's not what I think I'm reading from others here. When I execute the audit checklabel=barcode for our 3584 library, it completes almost instantaneously with no movement of the library robotics. I don't see how it could possibly be reading the barcode labels. I suspect it's doing what I think others have suggested: remembering the barcode labels that it has read previously. At 2:02 PM -0400 10/22/02, David Longo wrote: I imagine the checkl=barocde was introduced to shorten audit, without it you would have to mount every tape in library - which would take some considerable time with some libraries! I understand that reading the barcode is a good alternative to mounting the tape and reading the internal label. But what I'm saying is that it doesn't appear to be reading the barcodes when the audit is executed. What you are doing is checkinbg the barcode label in library memory as opposed to checking the magnetic tape label header. That's what I thought .. checking the barcode label in library memory. But in my interpretation, checklabel=barcode should mean read the barcode now, not tell me what it thinks it is based on its memory of the last time it read it. The ideal short way is to have the library do it's inventory, which reads barcodes and is quick, then do audit with checkl=barcode. OK .. thatmakes sense. The library inventory physically reads the barcode labels and updates the internal memory if necessary, and then the TSM audit checklabel=barcode causes the library's memory to be synced with TSM. In my opinion, the ideal short way would be to have the TSM audit checklabel=barcode command really tell the library to read the barcodes, eliminating the need to do the library inventory in a previous step. When I say checklabel=barcode, I mean checklabel=barcode, I don't mean check your internal memory. But I don't know if that's a limitation in the library or TSM. -- Matt Simpson -- OS/390 Support 219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300 University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506 mailto:msimpson;uky.edu mainframe -- An obsolete device still used by thousands of obsolete companies serving billions of obsolete customers and making huge obsolete profits for their obsolete shareholders. And this year's run twice as fast as last year's.
Re: os/2 a supported client? (other platforms?)
How about other older versions/platforms? Has anyone tested older 3.1/7 clients with the 5.1 server? On Wed, 2002-10-23 at 08:22, Dirk Billerbeck wrote: Sorry, OS/2 (BTW: IBMs OWN operating system!!) is no longer supported! : -(( The latest client version is v3.7.2.27, you can find it here: ftp://index.storsys.ibm.com/tivoli-storage-management/patches/client/v3r7/OS2/ This client works only up to a v4.2.x TSM server, NOT with v5.1 or higher! At least this is what we found out when we first tried to connect a v3.7 OS/2 client to a v5.1 TSM server for Windows. This is very sad because we still have dozend of customers with hundreds of OS/2 systems that can't move to TSM v5.1... Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Met vriendelijke groeten, With best regards, Bien amicalement, CU/2, Dirk Billerbeck Dirk Billerbeck GE CompuNet Kiel Enterprise Computing Solutions Am Jaegersberg 20, 24161 Altenholz (Kiel), Germany Phone: +49 (0) 431 / 3609 - 117, Fax: +49 (0) 431 / 3609 - 190, Internet: dirk.billerbeck @ gecits-eu.com This email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not disclose or use the information contained in it. If you have received this mail in error, please tell us immediately by return email and delete the document. [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 21.10.2002 17:48:45 Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mailbox.dekelnsm cc: Subject: os/2 a supported client? -- Is OS/2 a supported TSM client? I can't find info on the web site to say that, but have found several old posts in the ADSM-L archives to suggest that it may be. M. __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/
TSM NT 4.0 Client 5.1.5.0 restore problem
I have an NT 4.0 SP6 client with a C drive as NTFS. 4GB disk 92% full. I had a restore problem with this machine when I had 4.2.2.0 client, which was APAR IC33683 that was fixed with new 5.1.5.0. I rebuilt the machine with NT and installed 5.1.5.0 client. It bombed out with restore being out of disk space. Per the q ses on the 4.2.2.10 server I had only restored about 2.7GB. Output from dsmerror.log below. (I was wondering if the fact that I install a 5.1.5.0 client and then try a full restore of unit that includes a 4.2.2.0 client is part of the problem??)Just log files that are about 20MB in size from an application. --- 10/17/2002 17:36:15 ANS4009E Error processing '\\hfscmhl7mpd\c$\SCMLogs\Backload_logs\0921-2_HL7MGR_PROD-2.log': disk full condition 10/17/2002 17:41:41 ANS4009E Error processing '\\hfscmhl7mpd\c$\SCMLogs\Backload_logs\0921-2_HL7MGR_PROD-2.log': disk full condition 10/17/2002 17:44:05 ANS4009E Error processing '\\hfscmhl7mpd\c$\SCMLogs\Backload_logs\0922-1_HL7MGR_PROD-1.log': disk full condition 10/17/2002 17:46:09 ANS1005E TCP/IP read error on socket = 304, errno = 10054, reason : 'Unknown error'. 10/17/2002 17:46:09 ANS1301E Server detected system error -- Thanks, David B. Longo System Administrator Health First, Inc. 3300 Fiske Blvd. Rockledge, FL 32955-4305 PH 321.434.5536 Pager 321.634.8230 Fax:321.434.5509 [EMAIL PROTECTED] MMS health-first.org made the following annotations on 10/22/2002 02:58:28 PM -- This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it, and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Health First reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the individual sender, except (1) where the message states such views or opinions are on behalf of a particular entity; and (2) the sender is authorized by the entity to give such views or opinions. ==
Re: can not backup nds with netware client 5.1.5
Jim, Thanks. It looks like it's the all-local parm that is the problem. It seems that as long as nds is first in the domain statement things work OK. I have the following in an opt file and both nds and sys backed updomain nds: sys: no quotes. -- Jim Kirkman AIS - Systems UNC-Chapel Hill 966-5884 Jim Smith wrote: Jim, This looks like a bug that was introduced in TSM 5.1.5 b/a client. For now, it looks like you should be able to code DOMAIN NDS: with the : and it will work. Pls. instruct level-2 to take an APAR on this to get this fixed. Thanks, Jim Smith TSM Client Development I have an ETR open with IBM on this, but just had to bump it from sev 3 to sev 2 because no one has responded since I opened it on Thurs. a.m. You can run a manual and it works, tsm i nds Tim Brown wrote: have seen this problem reported recently, just throwing in my complaint netware 5.1 server, service pack4 with tsm client 5.1.5 unable to specify nds in domain statement DOMAIN ALL-LOCAL NDS also tried DOMAIN ALL-LOCAL DIR ANS1036S Invalid option 'DOMAIN' found in options file Tim Brown Systems Specialist Central Hudson Gas Electric 284 South Avenue Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Phone: 845-486-5643 Fax: 845-486-5921 Pager: 845-455-6985 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jim Kirkman AIS - Systems UNC-Chapel Hill 966-5884
Re: Audit Library question.
This seems to be library dependent. We've had both an STK 9710 and an IBM 3584. Both of these libraries, as a function of library startup (or after the door had been opened/closed) would scan all slots and build an in-memory list of volumes and slots in the controller. Any TSM library audit with checklabel=barcode just gets back the volser and slot from the library; if the library has an internal memory, it should come from there. Without an internal data store of some kind, it will need to scan the tapes. Tom Kauffman NIBCO, Inc -Original Message- From: Murray, Jim [mailto:JMurray;LIBERTY-BANK.COM] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 1:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Audit Library question. Not so here with an ATL 7100 checklabel=barcode and it Always moves up and down the rows, can only assume it is reading as it goes. Jim Murray Senior Systems Engineer Liberty Bank 860.638.2919 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand. -Confucius -Original Message- From: Todd Lundstedt [mailto:Todd_Lundstedt;VIA-CHRISTI.ORG] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 14:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Audit Library question. Not true on my library, Ken... I have run several audits using checklabel=barcode before with success. The arm has never moved in the library with an audit using checkl=b. |+ || KEN HORACEK | || KHORACEK@INCS| || YSTEM.COM| || Sent by: | || ADSM: Dist | || Stor Manager | || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| || IST.EDU | ||| ||| || 10/22/2002| || 01:03 PM | || Please respond| || to ADSM: Dist| || Stor Manager | ||| |+ - -- | | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Fax to: | | Subject: Re: Audit Library question. | - -- | Not true... With checklabel=barcode, all of the barcodes are read. This is then checked with the internal memory of the library as to what the library's inventory says is where. The tape is mounted, only if the barcode is mis-read. Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/22/2002 10:44:50 AM At 11:29 AM -0400 10/22/02, David Longo said: With checklabel=barcode, what happens is that TSM reads the internal memory of the library as to what the library's inventory says is where. So checklabel=barcode doesn't really mean read the barcodes? It just means check the library's internal memory? I guess that's still useful in some circumstances, if there'e a possibility that TSM and the library have gotten out of sync. But it would be nice if things mean what they say. Suppose I really want it to read the barcodes? Suppose I think the library's internal memory has gotten confused somehow, and I want to do a physical audit of barcode locations to compare with the internal memory? Is this possible? Or is it a function of the library (which I guess might make more sense). So generally that won't take long. And a drive needs to be available for the case where library had a problem reading a barcode label, that tape can be mounted in a tape drive to verify - even if using checkl=b. But how can it have a problem reading the barcode label if check-=b doesn't even try to read the labels? -- Matt Simpson -- OS/390 Support 219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300 University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506 mailto:msimpson;uky.edu mainframe -- An obsolete device still used by thousands of obsolete companies serving billions of obsolete customers and making huge obsolete profits for their obsolete shareholders. And this year's run twice as fast as last year's. - This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately. - GWIASIG 0.07 The information
Re: Audit Library question.
We too have a 3584. When an AUDIT LIBRARY checklabel=barcode (run daily) occurs, the arm moves over the entire library of tapes, reading the barcodes. I have witnessed this. If there is something that was done at installation time, of our LTO, to effect this, I couldn't say. Maybe someone out there, intimate with the hardware, can let us all know. Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/22/2002 11:53:54 AM At 11:03 AM -0700 10/22/02, KEN HORACEK said: With checklabel=barcode, all of the barcodes are read. This is then checked with the internal memory of the library as to what the library's inventory says is where. That's not what I'm seeing, and that's not what I think I'm reading from others here. When I execute the audit checklabel=barcode for our 3584 library, it completes almost instantaneously with no movement of the library robotics. I don't see how it could possibly be reading the barcode labels. I suspect it's doing what I think others have suggested: remembering the barcode labels that it has read previously. At 2:02 PM -0400 10/22/02, David Longo wrote: I imagine the checkl=barocde was introduced to shorten audit, without it you would have to mount every tape in library - which would take some considerable time with some libraries! I understand that reading the barcode is a good alternative to mounting the tape and reading the internal label. But what I'm saying is that it doesn't appear to be reading the barcodes when the audit is executed. What you are doing is checkinbg the barcode label in library memory as opposed to checking the magnetic tape label header. That's what I thought .. checking the barcode label in library memory. But in my interpretation, checklabel=barcode should mean read the barcode now, not tell me what it thinks it is based on its memory of the last time it read it. The ideal short way is to have the library do it's inventory, which reads barcodes and is quick, then do audit with checkl=barcode. OK .. thatmakes sense. The library inventory physically reads the barcode labels and updates the internal memory if necessary, and then the TSM audit checklabel=barcode causes the library's memory to be synced with TSM. In my opinion, the ideal short way would be to have the TSM audit checklabel=barcode command really tell the library to read the barcodes, eliminating the need to do the library inventory in a previous step. When I say checklabel=barcode, I mean checklabel=barcode, I don't mean check your internal memory. But I don't know if that's a limitation in the library or TSM. -- Matt Simpson -- OS/390 Support 219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300 University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506 mailto:msimpson;uky.edu mainframe -- An obsolete device still used by thousands of obsolete companies serving billions of obsolete customers and making huge obsolete profits for their obsolete shareholders. And this year's run twice as fast as last year's. - This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately. - GWIASIG 0.07
Re: TSM NT 4.0 Client 5.1.5.0 restore problem
Was the data backed up using compression? If so, the q ses shows compressed data. -Original Message- From: David Longo [mailto:David.Longo;HEALTH-FIRST.ORG] Sent: October 22, 2002 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TSM NT 4.0 Client 5.1.5.0 restore problem I have an NT 4.0 SP6 client with a C drive as NTFS. 4GB disk 92% full. I had a restore problem with this machine when I had 4.2.2.0 client, which was APAR IC33683 that was fixed with new 5.1.5.0. I rebuilt the machine with NT and installed 5.1.5.0 client. It bombed out with restore being out of disk space. Per the q ses on the 4.2.2.10 server I had only restored about 2.7GB. Output from dsmerror.log below. (I was wondering if the fact that I install a 5.1.5.0 client and then try a full restore of unit that includes a 4.2.2.0 client is part of the problem??)Just log files that are about 20MB in size from an application. --- 10/17/2002 17:36:15 ANS4009E Error processing '\\hfscmhl7mpd\c$\SCMLogs\Backload_logs\0921-2_HL7MGR_PROD-2.log': disk full condition 10/17/2002 17:41:41 ANS4009E Error processing '\\hfscmhl7mpd\c$\SCMLogs\Backload_logs\0921-2_HL7MGR_PROD-2.log': disk full condition 10/17/2002 17:44:05 ANS4009E Error processing '\\hfscmhl7mpd\c$\SCMLogs\Backload_logs\0922-1_HL7MGR_PROD-1.log': disk full condition 10/17/2002 17:46:09 ANS1005E TCP/IP read error on socket = 304, errno = 10054, reason : 'Unknown error'. 10/17/2002 17:46:09 ANS1301E Server detected system error -- Thanks, David B. Longo System Administrator Health First, Inc. 3300 Fiske Blvd. Rockledge, FL 32955-4305 PH 321.434.5536 Pager 321.634.8230 Fax:321.434.5509 [EMAIL PROTECTED] MMS health-first.org made the following annotations on 10/22/2002 02:58:28 PM -- This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it, and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Health First reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the individual sender, except (1) where the message states such views or opinions are on behalf of a particular entity; and (2) the sender is authorized by the entity to give such views or opinions. ==
Re: Audit Library question.
Following the discussion here (and in past months), part of the problem is the way libraries respond. I believe (Tivoli maybe coluld chime in and give the fine points on this) that when audit library checkl=barcode is issued that a certain SCSI command is sent to library. With the varied libraries out there supported, from simple to complex, the library interprets the command slightly differently in what it is requested to do. So as they say on TV Your results may not be the same - or is that what your stock broker says? On the things getting out of sync question. I just looked at the help audit library command on a TSM 4.2.2.10 server. Notice the wording carefully: TSM deletes missing volumes and updates moved volume locations. TSM does not automatically add new volumes; you must check in new volumes with the CHECKIN LIBVOLUME command. I think the implication is that it does nothing else. That is if you manually put a tape in the library without the checkin command and then run inventory/audit, TSM wil not pick it up. Also for instance in cases I have personally seen, if you do a checkout and bulk I/O is full, the the prompt to operators is to remove tape xxx from slot yyy. If the operator isn't paying attention and replies to this, then that tape is removed from TSM inventory but is STILL in the library. An audit and inventory will not put it back up into TSM's inventory. There are a few other slight variations on this that I have seen, but you get the idea. I believe these circumstnace would be the same for all automated libraries but am not completely sure. How do you find these tapes then? Send me $5.95 plus shipping and handling and I'll send you instructions on how! But seriously folks, that's what they pay us the BIG bucks for. In a sentence of two: run a q libvol from TSM and in very close time sequence run an inventory for your library with say tapeutil. (Tapeutil will show ALL tapes, no matter how they got in library). Then do a comparison. Some libraries you may have to open and do a slot by slot comparison. As an alternative to q libvol which puts tapes in volser order use this select which puts them in element order: select volume_name,home_element from libvolumes order by home_element David B. Longo System Administrator Health First, Inc. 3300 Fiske Blvd. Rockledge, FL 32955-4305 PH 321.434.5536 Pager 321.634.8230 Fax:321.434.5509 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/22/02 02:53PM At 11:03 AM -0700 10/22/02, KEN HORACEK said: With checklabel=barcode, all of the barcodes are read. This is then checked with the internal memory of the library as to what the library's inventory says is where. That's not what I'm seeing, and that's not what I think I'm reading from others here. When I execute the audit checklabel=barcode for our 3584 library, it completes almost instantaneously with no movement of the library robotics. I don't see how it could possibly be reading the barcode labels. I suspect it's doing what I think others have suggested: remembering the barcode labels that it has read previously. At 2:02 PM -0400 10/22/02, David Longo wrote: I imagine the checkl=barocde was introduced to shorten audit, without it you would have to mount every tape in library - which would take some considerable time with some libraries! I understand that reading the barcode is a good alternative to mounting the tape and reading the internal label. But what I'm saying is that it doesn't appear to be reading the barcodes when the audit is executed. What you are doing is checkinbg the barcode label in library memory as opposed to checking the magnetic tape label header. That's what I thought .. checking the barcode label in library memory. But in my interpretation, checklabel=barcode should mean read the barcode now, not tell me what it thinks it is based on its memory of the last time it read it. The ideal short way is to have the library do it's inventory, which reads barcodes and is quick, then do audit with checkl=barcode. OK .. thatmakes sense. The library inventory physically reads the barcode labels and updates the internal memory if necessary, and then the TSM audit checklabel=barcode causes the library's memory to be synced with TSM. In my opinion, the ideal short way would be to have the TSM audit checklabel=barcode command really tell the library to read the barcodes, eliminating the need to do the library inventory in a previous step. When I say checklabel=barcode, I mean checklabel=barcode, I don't mean check your internal memory. But I don't know if that's a limitation in the library or TSM. -- Matt Simpson -- OS/390 Support 219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300 University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506 mailto:msimpson;uky.edu mainframe -- An obsolete device still used by thousands of obsolete companies serving billions of obsolete customers and making huge obsolete profits for their obsolete shareholders. And this year's run twice
TSM backing up raw volumes
Does anyone know if TSM Version 5.1.1.6 supports backing up raw veritas volumes? For instance, if I put in an include statement that said include /dev/vx/rdsk/datadg/b01d00s09. I want it to back up the actual disks and not just the links. Geoff -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L;VM.MARIST.EDU]On Behalf Of Jim Kirkman Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 1:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: can not backup nds with netware client 5.1.5 Jim, Thanks. It looks like it's the all-local parm that is the problem. It seems that as long as nds is first in the domain statement things work OK. I have the following in an opt file and both nds and sys backed updomain nds: sys: no quotes. -- Jim Kirkman AIS - Systems UNC-Chapel Hill 966-5884 Jim Smith wrote: Jim, This looks like a bug that was introduced in TSM 5.1.5 b/a client. For now, it looks like you should be able to code DOMAIN NDS: with the : and it will work. Pls. instruct level-2 to take an APAR on this to get this fixed. Thanks, Jim Smith TSM Client Development I have an ETR open with IBM on this, but just had to bump it from sev 3 to sev 2 because no one has responded since I opened it on Thurs. a.m. You can run a manual and it works, tsm i nds Tim Brown wrote: have seen this problem reported recently, just throwing in my complaint netware 5.1 server, service pack4 with tsm client 5.1.5 unable to specify nds in domain statement DOMAIN ALL-LOCAL NDS also tried DOMAIN ALL-LOCAL DIR ANS1036S Invalid option 'DOMAIN' found in options file Tim Brown Systems Specialist Central Hudson Gas Electric 284 South Avenue Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Phone: 845-486-5643 Fax: 845-486-5921 Pager: 845-455-6985 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jim Kirkman AIS - Systems UNC-Chapel Hill 966-5884
Re: dismiss dsmadmc header output
See http://www.servergraph.com/techtip.shtml - Mr. Lindsay Morris Lead Architect, Servergraph www.servergraph.com http://www.servergraph.com 859-253-8000 ofc 425-988-8478 fax -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L;VM.MARIST.EDU]On Behalf Of Michael Kindermann Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 6:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: dismiss dsmadmc header output Hello, find this question once in the list, but didn't find any answer. Is there a way, something like a switch or an option, to influence the dsmadmc-output, to give only the interesting result and no overhead ? Trying to scripting some task in a shell-script. And iam a little anoyed, becaus it not very difficult to get some output from the dsmserver. But it is to reuse the information in the script. For example: I want to remove a Node, so i have first to delete the filespace. I also have to del the association. Iam afraid to use wildcards like 'del filespace node_name * ' in a script , so i need the filespacenames. I make an dsmadmc -id=... -pa=... q filespace node_name * or q select filspacename from filespaces. All i need is the name, but i get a lot of serverinformation: Tivoli Storage Manager Command Line Administrative Interface - Version 4, Release 1, Level 2.0 (C) Copyright IBM Corporation, 1990, 1999, All Rights Reserved. Session established with server ADSM: AIX-RS/6000 Server Version 4, Release 2, Level 2.7 Server date/time: 10/22/2002 11:34:44 Last access: 10/22/2002 11:26:01 ANS8000I Server command: 'q node TSTW2K' Node Name Platform Policy Domain Days Since Days Since Locked? Name Last Acce- Password ss Set - -- -- -- --- TSTW2KWinNTSTANDARD 277 278 No ANS8002I Highest return code was 0. Greetings Michael Kindermann Wuerzburg / Germany -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging more http://www.gmx.net +++ NEU: Mit GMX ins Internet. Rund um die Uhr f|r 1 ct/ Min. surfen!
Re: Audit Library question.
Todd, Apparently, not all LTO(s) are created equally. We have a 3584. Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/22/2002 11:28:28 AM Not true on my library, Ken... I have run several audits using checklabel=barcode before with success. The arm has never moved in the library with an audit using checkl=b. |+ || KEN HORACEK | || KHORACEK@INCS| || YSTEM.COM| || Sent by: | || ADSM: Dist | || Stor Manager | || [EMAIL PROTECTED]| || IST.EDU | ||| ||| || 10/22/2002| || 01:03 PM | || Please respond| || to ADSM: Dist| || Stor Manager | ||| |+ ---| | | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Fax to: | | Subject: Re: Audit Library question. | ---| Not true... With checklabel=barcode, all of the barcodes are read. This is then checked with the internal memory of the library as to what the library's inventory says is where. The tape is mounted, only if the barcode is mis-read. Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/22/2002 10:44:50 AM At 11:29 AM -0400 10/22/02, David Longo said: With checklabel=barcode, what happens is that TSM reads the internal memory of the library as to what the library's inventory says is where. So checklabel=barcode doesn't really mean read the barcodes? It just means check the library's internal memory? I guess that's still useful in some circumstances, if there'e a possibility that TSM and the library have gotten out of sync. But it would be nice if things mean what they say. Suppose I really want it to read the barcodes? Suppose I think the library's internal memory has gotten confused somehow, and I want to do a physical audit of barcode locations to compare with the internal memory? Is this possible? Or is it a function of the library (which I guess might make more sense). So generally that won't take long. And a drive needs to be available for the case where library had a problem reading a barcode label, that tape can be mounted in a tape drive to verify - even if using checkl=b. But how can it have a problem reading the barcode label if check-=b doesn't even try to read the labels? -- Matt Simpson -- OS/390 Support 219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300 University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506 mailto:msimpson;uky.edu mainframe -- An obsolete device still used by thousands of obsolete companies serving billions of obsolete customers and making huge obsolete profits for their obsolete shareholders. And this year's run twice as fast as last year's. - This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately. - GWIASIG 0.07
Re: TSM NT 4.0 Client 5.1.5.0 restore problem
No compression used on clients. David Longo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/22/02 03:49PM Was the data backed up using compression? If so, the q ses shows compressed data. -Original Message- From: David Longo [mailto:David.Longo;HEALTH-FIRST.ORG] Sent: October 22, 2002 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TSM NT 4.0 Client 5.1.5.0 restore problem I have an NT 4.0 SP6 client with a C drive as NTFS. 4GB disk 92% full. I had a restore problem with this machine when I had 4.2.2.0 client, which was APAR IC33683 that was fixed with new 5.1.5.0. I rebuilt the machine with NT and installed 5.1.5.0 client. It bombed out with restore being out of disk space. Per the q ses on the 4.2.2.10 server I had only restored about 2.7GB. Output from dsmerror.log below. (I was wondering if the fact that I install a 5.1.5.0 client and then try a full restore of unit that includes a 4.2.2.0 client is part of the problem??)Just log files that are about 20MB in size from an application. --- 10/17/2002 17:36:15 ANS4009E Error processing '\\hfscmhl7mpd\c$\SCMLogs\Backload_logs\0921-2_HL7MGR_PROD-2.log': disk full condition 10/17/2002 17:41:41 ANS4009E Error processing '\\hfscmhl7mpd\c$\SCMLogs\Backload_logs\0921-2_HL7MGR_PROD-2.log': disk full condition 10/17/2002 17:44:05 ANS4009E Error processing '\\hfscmhl7mpd\c$\SCMLogs\Backload_logs\0922-1_HL7MGR_PROD-1.log': disk full condition 10/17/2002 17:46:09 ANS1005E TCP/IP read error on socket = 304, errno = 10054, reason : 'Unknown error'. 10/17/2002 17:46:09 ANS1301E Server detected system error -- Thanks, David B. Longo System Administrator Health First, Inc. 3300 Fiske Blvd. Rockledge, FL 32955-4305 PH 321.434.5536 Pager 321.634.8230 Fax:321.434.5509 [EMAIL PROTECTED] MMS health-first.org made the following annotations on 10/22/2002 02:58:28 PM -- This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it, and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Health First reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the individual sender, except (1) where the message states such views or opinions are on behalf of a particular entity; and (2) the sender is authorized by the entity to give such views or opinions. == MMS health-first.org made the following annotations on 10/22/2002 04:15:13 PM -- This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it, and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. Health First reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views or opinions expressed in this message are solely those of the individual sender, except (1) where the message states such views or opinions are on behalf of a particular entity; and (2) the sender is authorized by the entity to give such views or opinions. ==
Offsite Vaulting with Locked Canisters
All, I am looking for feedback on using locked canisters for offsite vaulting. I have setup DRM for several accounts who used open containers and I have setup poor man's tape rotation without DRM with open canisters, but I have never implemented a locked canister solution. The problem as I see it is that not all the data on the tapes will expire at the same time. So what will happen is that some of the tapes in the canister are available for reclamation and then return to the data center, but other tapes will not be available at the same time, this will cause the tapes in the canister to be out of sync. I have thought of 2 ways to potentially deal with this problem: 1) Every week we can create a brand new copy storage pool and backup the primary pools to the offsite pool. After 3 weeks all the data in the pool can be deleted and the tapes brought back onsite. This is not utilizing TSM's incremental backup storage pool feature, but would guarantee that a complete set of data was taken offsite each week. 2) Use either import/export or generate backupset to create fresh tapes every week. -- Joshua S. Bassi IBM Certified - AIX 4/5L, SAN, Shark Tivoli Certified Consultant - ADSM/TSM eServer Systems Expert -pSeries HACMP AIX, HACMP, Storage, TSM Consultant Cell (831) 595-3962 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Offsite Vaulting with Locked Canisters
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L;VM.MARIST.EDU]On Behalf Of Joshua Bassi I am looking for feedback on using locked canisters for offsite vaulting. I have setup DRM for several accounts who used open containers and I have setup poor man's tape rotation without DRM with open canisters, but I have never implemented a locked canister solution. The problem as I see it is that not all the data on the tapes will expire at the same time. So what will happen is that some of the tapes in the canister are available for reclamation and then return to the data center, but other tapes will not be available at the same time, this will cause the tapes in the canister to be out of sync. I have thought of 2 ways to potentially deal with this problem: 1) Every week we can create a brand new copy storage pool and backup the primary pools to the offsite pool. After 3 weeks all the data in the pool can be deleted and the tapes brought back onsite. This is not utilizing TSM's incremental backup storage pool feature, but would guarantee that a complete set of data was taken offsite each week. 2) Use either import/export or generate backupset to create fresh tapes every week. You're trying to fit a round peg in a square hole. Why do you want to implement locked cannister mode? Security? A backupset *can* be read without a db backup, as long as you're dealing with like OS platforms. They're much less secure than an offsite pool. Exports are similarly insecure. Data from TSM's offsite tape pools cannot be read without a current database backup and other required TSM server metadata. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Certified TSM consultant Certified AIX system engineer MCSE
Re: Oracle and TDP issues
We used to for our SAP databases but our databases grow to fast to support the constant size change license purchases from SQL Backtrack. We switched to TDP and it has helped because we lost the finger pointing between BMC and Tivoli when we had a backtrack problem. Becky -Original Message- From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU [mailto:zforray;VCU.EDU] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 11:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Oracle and TDP issues We do too, on an AIX system. J D Gable [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/22/2002 11:20 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Oracle and TDP issues Our DBAs use BMC software called SQL Backtrack. Josh Zoltan Forray wrote: We just purchased the TSM TDP for Oracle on NT/2K. We installed it, only to realize it won't work since there is no sign of RMAN.EXE on this machine? So, the owner of this box/package contacts the vendor. Their response wasOracle is version 7.3.4, not 8i or 9i, which will not run with their app. said the person she spoke to did not seem to know what RMAN was. So, how does one backup an Oracle app/database, using the TDP without RMAN ? I am not an Oracle person but even I know that RMAN is the utility to do database backup/restore/maintenance ! Suggestions, anyone ?
Re: Offsite Vaulting with Locked Canisters
Mark, Think for a second, if reclaimation supported a days option versus the current percent utilized option. If that was the case you could set that number of days about 7 days less than when the closed boxes are to return and achieve the goal. Well, I have written the code to do just that via the MOVE DATA vv RECONSTRUCT=YES based on the change date in the drmedia table. We have been doing this for about 9 months now, very successfully. I still use DRM for its management functionality, but I would not require it to achieve the goal. Yes, I have quite a few scripts and some elaborate processing to do this, but it works very successfully. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Mark Stapleton [mailto:stapleto;BERBEE.COM] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 4:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Offsite Vaulting with Locked Canisters From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L;VM.MARIST.EDU]On Behalf Of Joshua Bassi I am looking for feedback on using locked canisters for offsite vaulting. I have setup DRM for several accounts who used open containers and I have setup poor man's tape rotation without DRM with open canisters, but I have never implemented a locked canister solution. The problem as I see it is that not all the data on the tapes will expire at the same time. So what will happen is that some of the tapes in the canister are available for reclamation and then return to the data center, but other tapes will not be available at the same time, this will cause the tapes in the canister to be out of sync. I have thought of 2 ways to potentially deal with this problem: 1) Every week we can create a brand new copy storage pool and backup the primary pools to the offsite pool. After 3 weeks all the data in the pool can be deleted and the tapes brought back onsite. This is not utilizing TSM's incremental backup storage pool feature, but would guarantee that a complete set of data was taken offsite each week. 2) Use either import/export or generate backupset to create fresh tapes every week. You're trying to fit a round peg in a square hole. Why do you want to implement locked cannister mode? Security? A backupset *can* be read without a db backup, as long as you're dealing with like OS platforms. They're much less secure than an offsite pool. Exports are similarly insecure. Data from TSM's offsite tape pools cannot be read without a current database backup and other required TSM server metadata. -- Mark Stapleton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Certified TSM consultant Certified AIX system engineer MCSE
Re: Offsite Vaulting with Locked Canisters
Hey, Josh. You could write a Perl script (or pick a language) that manages these canisters. It can track which volumes are in each canister, check all their %util and %recl and generate a canister %util/%recl. Then you can have your script issue delete vols or move datas when a canister is sufficiently empty. Of course, if you do this, you won't be able to use the stgpool's pct_reclaim to do reclamation, but that's OK because your script mimics the reclamation. It would be like an offsitepool with superlarge tapes, so _hopefully_ you'll get volume usage similar to what you're seeing now. It should also be pretty simple to write. Personally, I don't like either the brand new copypool or the import/export/backupset options. They seem like they'll add too much drive utilization. Alex Paschal Storage Administrator Freightliner, LLC (503) 745-6850 phone/vmail -Original Message- From: Joshua Bassi [mailto:jbassi;IHWY.COM] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 1:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Offsite Vaulting with Locked Canisters All, I am looking for feedback on using locked canisters for offsite vaulting. I have setup DRM for several accounts who used open containers and I have setup poor man's tape rotation without DRM with open canisters, but I have never implemented a locked canister solution. The problem as I see it is that not all the data on the tapes will expire at the same time. So what will happen is that some of the tapes in the canister are available for reclamation and then return to the data center, but other tapes will not be available at the same time, this will cause the tapes in the canister to be out of sync. I have thought of 2 ways to potentially deal with this problem: 1) Every week we can create a brand new copy storage pool and backup the primary pools to the offsite pool. After 3 weeks all the data in the pool can be deleted and the tapes brought back onsite. This is not utilizing TSM's incremental backup storage pool feature, but would guarantee that a complete set of data was taken offsite each week. 2) Use either import/export or generate backupset to create fresh tapes every week. -- Joshua S. Bassi IBM Certified - AIX 4/5L, SAN, Shark Tivoli Certified Consultant - ADSM/TSM eServer Systems Expert -pSeries HACMP AIX, HACMP, Storage, TSM Consultant Cell (831) 595-3962 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAID5 in TSM
We run on the ESS. No mirroring! You are paying for a solution that has such high availability numbers it makes no sense. If you want to improve your recovery, run more incremental backups so you can roll to the most current, do a volhistory dump, and put that information on the root disk (not on the ESS) or a different array in the ESS on OS/390. There is also a mirroring bug below 4.2.2.8 that can cause horrible database backup performance. You are correct, it is overkill for the database. The only thing I could possibly justify is mirroring the log on different SSA loops in the ESS so that if the log died I could recover from the last backup. There have been a handful of ESS array failures. For example, a microcode glitch that occurred if a DDM failed and a parity rebuild was in process because of a SSA adapter special condition. That was fixed in G5+1 of the ESS microcode about 8 months ago. Only one customer ever saw that problem to my knowledge. There was also a bad vintage of drives that has been cleaned up. But otherwise, things have been solid and we should trust this hardware. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Matt Simpson [mailto:msimpson;UKY.EDU] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 1:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RAID5 in TSM At 9:27 AM -0400 10/22/02, Lawrence Clark said: Even though there may be a slight performance hit on writes, I've placed the TSM DB on RAID-5 to ensure availability and no down time in case of a disk loss. With RAID 5, is there any point in software mirroring (dual copies of database)? Our DB is on RAID5 (Shark). We also have 2 copies of it, except for one extent that we added in a crunch when it filled up. Are the dual copies overkill on RAID 5? I know that even RAID is not totally infallible, and we could have a potential disaster that wipes out the whole Shark. But that's why we have backups. The chances of that are pretty slim, and I can't imagine any scenario where we could have a RAID failure that wouldn't leave us so dead that we'd have to restore anyway. -- Matt Simpson -- OS/390 Support 219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300 University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506 mailto:msimpson;uky.edu mainframe -- An obsolete device still used by thousands of obsolete companies serving billions of obsolete customers and making huge obsolete profits for their obsolete shareholders. And this year's run twice as fast as last year's.
NT 4.0 100% CPU Usage
All (HELP) When backups are triggered via a batch file on NT 4.0 Clients they use 100% of CPU and the dsmc process continues to use 100% of CPU even after the backup shows complete and successful in TSM. The process then has to be killed manually in order to release the CPU cycles. AIX 5.1 TSM 5.1
Re: Audit Library question.
Matt, What I see on my system depends on the library. I currently have a 3583, two 3575s (and L12 and an L18), and an HP 4/40 DLT. In the past I've used a smaller 3575 (L06) and a 3570. All have/had barcode readers. The two largest 3575s perform barcode audits without moving anything. They seem to simply read the library's internal inventory back to TSM. If the library's inventory is suspect, there is a front panel function to init element status that causes the robot to scan all the bar codes and update the library's inventory. The 3570, 3575-L06, and HP 4/40 all send/sent the robot scanning the tapes in their slots and drives. That updated info was then reported to TSM. I don't know what the 3583 does because it doesn't have any windows to permit viewing the internals while in operation. Tab Trepagnier TSM Administrator Laitram Corporation Matt Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/22/2002 01:53 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Audit Library question. At 11:03 AM -0700 10/22/02, KEN HORACEK said: With checklabel=barcode, all of the barcodes are read. This is then checked with the internal memory of the library as to what the library's inventory says is where. That's not what I'm seeing, and that's not what I think I'm reading from others here. When I execute the audit checklabel=barcode for our 3584 library, it completes almost instantaneously with no movement of the library robotics. I don't see how it could possibly be reading the barcode labels. I suspect it's doing what I think others have suggested: remembering the barcode labels that it has read previously. At 2:02 PM -0400 10/22/02, David Longo wrote: I imagine the checkl=barocde was introduced to shorten audit, without it you would have to mount every tape in library - which would take some considerable time with some libraries! I understand that reading the barcode is a good alternative to mounting the tape and reading the internal label. But what I'm saying is that it doesn't appear to be reading the barcodes when the audit is executed. What you are doing is checkinbg the barcode label in library memory as opposed to checking the magnetic tape label header. That's what I thought .. checking the barcode label in library memory. But in my interpretation, checklabel=barcode should mean read the barcode now, not tell me what it thinks it is based on its memory of the last time it read it. The ideal short way is to have the library do it's inventory, which reads barcodes and is quick, then do audit with checkl=barcode. OK .. thatmakes sense. The library inventory physically reads the barcode labels and updates the internal memory if necessary, and then the TSM audit checklabel=barcode causes the library's memory to be synced with TSM. In my opinion, the ideal short way would be to have the TSM audit checklabel=barcode command really tell the library to read the barcodes, eliminating the need to do the library inventory in a previous step. When I say checklabel=barcode, I mean checklabel=barcode, I don't mean check your internal memory. But I don't know if that's a limitation in the library or TSM. -- Matt Simpson -- OS/390 Support 219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300 University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506 mailto:msimpson;uky.edu mainframe -- An obsolete device still used by thousands of obsolete companies serving billions of obsolete customers and making huge obsolete profits for their obsolete shareholders. And this year's run twice as fast as last year's.
Re: dismiss dsmadmc header output
Michael, The only way I can think of getting only the information you require is through SQL queries straight to the TSM databases. This will give you precise information, and only the information you require. Regards, -- Graham Trigge Senior Administrator Telstra Enterprise Services Pty Ltd Phone: (02) 9882 5831 Mobile: 0409 654 434 Fax: (02) 9882 5987 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael Kindermann michael.kindermanTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: dismiss dsmadmc header output Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] EDU 22/10/2002 20:32 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Hello, find this question once in the list, but didn't find any answer. Is there a way, something like a switch or an option, to influence the dsmadmc-output, to give only the interesting result and no overhead ? Trying to scripting some task in a shell-script. And iam a little anoyed, becaus it not very difficult to get some output from the dsmserver. But it is to reuse the information in the script. For example: I want to remove a Node, so i have first to delete the filespace. I also have to del the association. Iam afraid to use wildcards like 'del filespace node_name * ' in a script , so i need the filespacenames. I make an dsmadmc -id=... -pa=... q filespace node_name * or q select filspacename from filespaces. All i need is the name, but i get a lot of serverinformation: Tivoli Storage Manager Command Line Administrative Interface - Version 4, Release 1, Level 2.0 (C) Copyright IBM Corporation, 1990, 1999, All Rights Reserved. Session established with server ADSM: AIX-RS/6000 Server Version 4, Release 2, Level 2.7 Server date/time: 10/22/2002 11:34:44 Last access: 10/22/2002 11:26:01 ANS8000I Server command: 'q node TSTW2K' Node Name Platform Policy Domain Days Since Days Since Locked? Name Last Acce- Password ss Set - -- -- -- --- TSTW2KWinNTSTANDARD 277 278 No ANS8002I Highest return code was 0. Greetings Michael Kindermann Wuerzburg / Germany -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging more http://www.gmx.net +++ NEU: Mit GMX ins Internet. Rund um die Uhr f|r 1 ct/ Min. surfen!
Re: 3590 Firmware
To my knowledge, if you are on maintenance, the CE will apply the code to the drives. However, it is a lot easier if you just get the code and use tapeutil to load it from your host, no tape required. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Lloyd Dieter [mailto:dieter;SNRGY.COM] Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 9:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 3590 Firmware All, We recently replaced a set of 3590B drives with H's in a 3494. During the upgrade, I inquired of the CEs regarding what the latest firmware was, and if they could verify that the upgraded drives had the latest code. The reply I received was that the procedures for 3590 firmware updates had changed, and that the customer is now responsible for obtaining the FMR tape. Anytime in the past I have gone through firmware updates on 3590 drives, the CE always provided/created the FMR tape. A quick check around the web site doesn't seem to indicate anything new along these lines, nor does a visit to index.storsys. When I asked one of the CEs for the procedure for getting the code, he provided me with an e-mail address of someone within IBM. I fired one off to him, along with the information I was told I required (Co. name, drive SN, etc.), but have received no reply. Has anyone else heard this, or are these guys a little off base? -Lloyd -- - Lloyd Dieter- Senior Technology Consultant Synergy, Inc. http://www.synergyinc.cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Main:585-389-1260fax:585-389-1267 -
Re: Oracle and TDP issues
There is a program supplied with Oracle 7 called EBU. What we are doing is to use EBU to backup the database to disk and then do an archive of the backup. It all works OK as long as you have the disk space. We also have to do this with our Oracle 9 databases as TDP for that version is not yet available. Regards Steve Tailor Technical Consultant -Original Message- From: Zoltan Forray [mailto:zforray;VCU.EDU] Sent: 22 October, 2002 10:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Oracle and TDP issues We just purchased the TSM TDP for Oracle on NT/2K. We installed it, only to realize it won't work since there is no sign of RMAN.EXE on this machine? So, the owner of this box/package contacts the vendor. Their response wasOracle is version 7.3.4, not 8i or 9i, which will not run with their app. said the person she spoke to did not seem to know what RMAN was. So, how does one backup an Oracle app/database, using the TDP without RMAN ? I am not an Oracle person but even I know that RMAN is the utility to do database backup/restore/maintenance ! Suggestions, anyone ?
Re: Oracle and TDP issues
Thanks to everyone for all the helpful information about Oracle, RMAN and EBU. Will dig into to see if they installed EBU on this server and dig up some scripts/bat/cmd files to do the dumping/backup. Tailor, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/22/2002 08:57 PM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Oracle and TDP issues There is a program supplied with Oracle 7 called EBU. What we are doing is to use EBU to backup the database to disk and then do an archive of the backup. It all works OK as long as you have the disk space. We also have to do this with our Oracle 9 databases as TDP for that version is not yet available. Regards Steve Tailor Technical Consultant -Original Message- From: Zoltan Forray [mailto:zforray;VCU.EDU] Sent: 22 October, 2002 10:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Oracle and TDP issues We just purchased the TSM TDP for Oracle on NT/2K. We installed it, only to realize it won't work since there is no sign of RMAN.EXE on this machine? So, the owner of this box/package contacts the vendor. Their response wasOracle is version 7.3.4, not 8i or 9i, which will not run with their app. said the person she spoke to did not seem to know what RMAN was. So, how does one backup an Oracle app/database, using the TDP without RMAN ? I am not an Oracle person but even I know that RMAN is the utility to do database backup/restore/maintenance ! Suggestions, anyone ?
NT4.0 IE 5 Requirements
Is IE 5 required for TSM BA Client to run properly on NT 4.0 with Service Pack 6? Are there any special dll requirements for NT 4.0 for TSM client 5.1 to work properly. When IE 5 is installed on the client the backup works if it is not installed it hangs the CPU at 100%
TDP for Domino Retention
Would someone please explain to me what these settings will mean to me as it relates to TDP for domino backups? The schedule is below. Is there going to be 45 versions of each type of backup or what? I'm told they want to be able to go back 45 days. I'm not sure how this should be set up though. And I'm having a hell of a time satisfying anyone on this. Domain * Schedule NameAction Start Date/Time Duration Period Day - -- -- --- DOMINO_DOM DOMARCH_M-F CMD02/14/02 06:00:001 H6 H WD DOMINO_DOM DOMINCR_M-F CMD04/09/02 19:00:001 H1 D WD DOMINO_DOM DOMSELECTIVE_S- CMD04/14/02 19:00:001 H1 D Sun UNDAY Policy Domain Name DOMINO_DOM Policy Set Name DOMINO_POL Mgmt Class Name DOMINO_MGT Copy Group Name STANDARD Versions Data Exists 45 Versions Data Deleted 3 Retain Extra Versions 45 Retain Only Version 45 Copy Mode MODIFIED Copy Serialization DYNAMIC Copy Frequency 0 Thanks, Geoff Gill TSM Administrator NT Systems Support Engineer SAIC E-Mail:mailto:gillg;saic.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (858) 826-4062 Pager: (877) 905-7154
Re: RAID5 in TSM
I tested with compression and without compression.No much difference in performance. Seay, Paul seay_pd@NAPTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HEON.COMcc: Sent by: Subject: Re: RAID5 in TSM ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] RIST.EDU 10/22/2002 06:29 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Are you running compression? Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Raghu S [mailto:raghu;COSMOS.DCMDS.CO.IN] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 8:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RAID5 in TSM Hi, There was a lot of discussion on this topic before.But i am requesting TSM gurus give their comments again. The set up is like this. TSM Server : Windows NT 4.0 SP6, TSM 5.1.0.0 392 MB memory, P III Adaptech Ultra SCSI Hard Disk : Internal Hardware RAID 5: array A : 8.678GB * 3 : 17.356GB data and 8.678 GB parity array B : 35.003 GB * 3 : 70.006GB data and 35.003 GB parity. Both array A and array B are connected to the same channel. OS and TSM 5.1 are installed on array A TSM data base, recovery log and Disk storage pool are installed in array B. Database : 2GB+2GB = 4 GB and mirrored at TSM level on the same array Recovery Log : 500MB + 500 MB = 1 GB and mirrored at TSM level on the same array Disk Storage pool : 10GB+10GB+10GB+10GB+5GB=45GB on array B TSM client: 4.1.2.12 ( Tivoli says 4.1.2.12 is not supported with 5.1 Server. But i could take the backup,archive and restore with this combination ) Number of Clients : 55, all are windows Incremental backup : 1GB/ client/day. backup window : 9AM to 6PM with 50% randamization ( all are in polling mode ) LAN : 100Mbps End of the day only 10 clients could finish the backup.Remaining all are missing or ? ( in progress ) or failed. Through the entire backup window the CPU load is 100% with dsmsvc.exe holding 98% I tested with various options. I stopped the schedular and fired 3 clients backup manually at the same time.Each client has 1 GB of incremental data. It took three hours to finish the backup. While backing up i observed there was lot of idletime outs of sessions. Network choke is not there. I checked this with FTP. Whats the bottleneck here? Is RAID 5 is creating problems ( DB,log and storage pool all are on the RAID 5 )? I asked the customer to arrange a testing machine without any RAID. I will be getting that in two days.Before going on to the testing i like to know your comments on this. Regards Raghu S Nivas Consultant - TSM DCM Data Systems Ltd New Delhi India.
Re: RAID5 in TSM
Here i am not worried about the protection.I am worried about the performace. Most of my client backups are failed. Suad Musovich s.musovich@AUCKLTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AND.AC.NZ cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: RAID5 in TSM Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU 10/23/2002 12:49 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Realistically, if Array B dies, you lose the Database and recovery log. The mirroring ain 't giving you protection from that. I would separate the recovery log to array A and lose the mirroring on both DB and log(maybe mirror log between arrays). Restoration of a broken DB should only mean a couple hours outage, in your case. On Wed, 2002-10-23 at 01:03, Raghu S wrote: Hi, There was a lot of discussion on this topic before.But i am requesting TSM gurus give their comments again. The set up is like this. TSM Server : Windows NT 4.0 SP6, TSM 5.1.0.0 392 MB memory, P III Adaptech Ultra SCSI Hard Disk : Internal Hardware RAID 5: array A : 8.678GB * 3 : 17.356GB data and 8.678 GB parity array B : 35.003 GB * 3 : 70.006GB data and 35.003 GB parity. Both array A and array B are connected to the same channel. OS and TSM 5.1 are installed on array A TSM data base, recovery log and Disk storage pool are installed in array B. Database : 2GB+2GB = 4 GB and mirrored at TSM level on the same array Recovery Log : 500MB + 500 MB = 1 GB and mirrored at TSM level on the same array Disk Storage pool : 10GB+10GB+10GB+10GB+5GB=45GB on array B TSM client: 4.1.2.12 ( Tivoli says 4.1.2.12 is not supported with 5.1 Server. But i could take the backup,archive and restore with this combination ) Number of Clients : 55, all are windows Incremental backup : 1GB/ client/day. backup window : 9AM to 6PM with 50% randamization ( all are in polling mode ) LAN : 100Mbps End of the day only 10 clients could finish the backup.Remaining all are missing or ? ( in progress ) or failed. Through the entire backup window the CPU load is 100% with dsmsvc.exe holding 98% I tested with various options. I stopped the schedular and fired 3 clients backup manually at the same time.Each client has 1 GB of incremental data. It took three hours to finish the backup. While backing up i observed there was lot of idletime outs of sessions. Network choke is not there. I checked this with FTP. Whats the bottleneck here? Is RAID 5 is creating problems ( DB,log and storage pool all are on the RAID 5 )? I asked the customer to arrange a testing machine without any RAID. I will be getting that in two days.Before going on to the testing i like to know your comments on this. Regards Raghu S Nivas Consultant - TSM DCM Data Systems Ltd New Delhi India.
Re: RAID5 in TSM
Paul, keeping TSM database,log and disk storage pool on RAID5 degrades the performance??? Regards Raghu Seay, Paul seay_pd@NAPTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HEON.COMcc: Sent by: Subject: Re: RAID5 in TSM ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] RIST.EDU 10/22/2002 06:29 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Are you running compression? Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Raghu S [mailto:raghu;COSMOS.DCMDS.CO.IN] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 8:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RAID5 in TSM Hi, There was a lot of discussion on this topic before.But i am requesting TSM gurus give their comments again. The set up is like this. TSM Server : Windows NT 4.0 SP6, TSM 5.1.0.0 392 MB memory, P III Adaptech Ultra SCSI Hard Disk : Internal Hardware RAID 5: array A : 8.678GB * 3 : 17.356GB data and 8.678 GB parity array B : 35.003 GB * 3 : 70.006GB data and 35.003 GB parity. Both array A and array B are connected to the same channel. OS and TSM 5.1 are installed on array A TSM data base, recovery log and Disk storage pool are installed in array B. Database : 2GB+2GB = 4 GB and mirrored at TSM level on the same array Recovery Log : 500MB + 500 MB = 1 GB and mirrored at TSM level on the same array Disk Storage pool : 10GB+10GB+10GB+10GB+5GB=45GB on array B TSM client: 4.1.2.12 ( Tivoli says 4.1.2.12 is not supported with 5.1 Server. But i could take the backup,archive and restore with this combination ) Number of Clients : 55, all are windows Incremental backup : 1GB/ client/day. backup window : 9AM to 6PM with 50% randamization ( all are in polling mode ) LAN : 100Mbps End of the day only 10 clients could finish the backup.Remaining all are missing or ? ( in progress ) or failed. Through the entire backup window the CPU load is 100% with dsmsvc.exe holding 98% I tested with various options. I stopped the schedular and fired 3 clients backup manually at the same time.Each client has 1 GB of incremental data. It took three hours to finish the backup. While backing up i observed there was lot of idletime outs of sessions. Network choke is not there. I checked this with FTP. Whats the bottleneck here? Is RAID 5 is creating problems ( DB,log and storage pool all are on the RAID 5 )? I asked the customer to arrange a testing machine without any RAID. I will be getting that in two days.Before going on to the testing i like to know your comments on this. Regards Raghu S Nivas Consultant - TSM DCM Data Systems Ltd New Delhi India.
Re: Co-location
Matt, You are absolutely correct. Co-location is by storage pool, not by management class. So yes, you would need to carve your disk up into multiple storage pools to selectively use co-location, or you could set up a tape pool that was co-located and go directly to tapes but caution! you would need to have enough drives to accomplish this. I would also add the old, disk is so cheap, but my guess is that it's not viable to add more disk (or you're on one of those platforms where disk is not cheap...) I guess one thing to consider is that while you may be carving your disk up into smaller pools, the total amount of disk and the total amount being backed up are going to be the same regardless of how many pools you have, so carving one big pool up, shouldn't be that big of an issue, as long as you put some planning into the size of the disk pools. Chris Gibes Tivoli Certified Consultant IBM Certified System Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] We'd really like to avoid carving up our disk space into more smaller pools. But, as far as I can tell, that's the only way to use colocation selectively. Am I missing something, or is that the way it works? -- Matt Simpson -- OS/390 Support 219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300 University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506 mailto:msimpson;uky.edu mainframe -- An obsolete device still used by thousands of obsolete companies serving billions of obsolete customers and making huge obsolete profits for their obsolete shareholders. And this year's run twice as fast as last year's.
Re: RAID5 in TSM
Then remove the mirroring. On Wed, 2002-10-23 at 16:43, Raghu S wrote: Here i am not worried about the protection.I am worried about the performace. Most of my client backups are failed. Suad Musovich s.musovich@AUCKLTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AND.AC.NZ cc: Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: RAID5 in TSM Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU 10/23/2002 12:49 AM Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Realistically, if Array B dies, you lose the Database and recovery log. The mirroring ain 't giving you protection from that. I would separate the recovery log to array A and lose the mirroring on both DB and log(maybe mirror log between arrays). Restoration of a broken DB should only mean a couple hours outage, in your case. On Wed, 2002-10-23 at 01:03, Raghu S wrote: Hi, There was a lot of discussion on this topic before.But i am requesting TSM gurus give their comments again. The set up is like this. TSM Server : Windows NT 4.0 SP6, TSM 5.1.0.0 392 MB memory, P III Adaptech Ultra SCSI Hard Disk : Internal Hardware RAID 5: array A : 8.678GB * 3 : 17.356GB data and 8.678 GB parity array B : 35.003 GB * 3 : 70.006GB data and 35.003 GB parity. Both array A and array B are connected to the same channel. OS and TSM 5.1 are installed on array A TSM data base, recovery log and Disk storage pool are installed in array B. Database : 2GB+2GB = 4 GB and mirrored at TSM level on the same array Recovery Log : 500MB + 500 MB = 1 GB and mirrored at TSM level on the same array Disk Storage pool : 10GB+10GB+10GB+10GB+5GB=45GB on array B TSM client: 4.1.2.12 ( Tivoli says 4.1.2.12 is not supported with 5.1 Server. But i could take the backup,archive and restore with this combination ) Number of Clients : 55, all are windows Incremental backup : 1GB/ client/day. backup window : 9AM to 6PM with 50% randamization ( all are in polling mode ) LAN : 100Mbps End of the day only 10 clients could finish the backup.Remaining all are missing or ? ( in progress ) or failed. Through the entire backup window the CPU load is 100% with dsmsvc.exe holding 98% I tested with various options. I stopped the schedular and fired 3 clients backup manually at the same time.Each client has 1 GB of incremental data. It took three hours to finish the backup. While backing up i observed there was lot of idletime outs of sessions. Network choke is not there. I checked this with FTP. Whats the bottleneck here? Is RAID 5 is creating problems ( DB,log and storage pool all are on the RAID 5 )? I asked the customer to arrange a testing machine without any RAID. I will be getting that in two days.Before going on to the testing i like to know your comments on this. Regards Raghu S Nivas Consultant - TSM DCM Data Systems Ltd New Delhi India.
Re: New Features??
Hello Mahesh I've reported this problem to Tivoli. APAR IC34754 has been created for this problem. Kaj -Original Message- From: Mahesh Tailor [mailto:MTailor;CARILION.COM] Sent: 21. oktober 2002 20:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New Features?? Hello, all! I just installed the TSM 5.1.5.1 patch on an AIX 4.3.3.10 system. No problems yet. But, when I q pro I get the following. Looks normal enough, except for the ~'s and \. I get the \ for all processes. Offsite Volume(s) (storage pool COPYPOOL), Moved Files: 9, Moved Bytes: 15,743,970,368, Unreadable Files: 2, Unreadable Bytes: 0. Current Physical File (bytes): 1,249,432,856~Current input volume: T10524.~Current output volume: T10130.\ Has anyone else seen this? And, can something be done about it? TIA Mahesh
Re: RAID5 in TSM
Your database is I/O-bound. You have, essentially, duplicated your protection at different levels. You need to choose between 1) RAID-5 or 2) TSM Software mirroring, but you should not use both. Either one will protect you from a disk drive failure, and either one will allow the server to stay up and running when a failure occurs. I believe that the best way is to use TSM Software mirroring on JBOD (i.e. plain, raw) disk drives for the database and log, and RAID-5 for the online disk storage pools. But if you are stuck using RAID-5 for some reason, then do not use TSM Server mirroring as well; it is redundant. When you allocate your mirror copies, get the two copies as far away from each other as possible. At minimum, they must be on separate physical disk drives. Better to have them on separate I/O channels (SCSI bus...). This separation will both help performance, and improve your ability to continue running after a disk problem. Roger Deschner University of Illinois at Chicago [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Raghu S wrote: Hi, There was a lot of discussion on this topic before.But i am requesting TSM gurus give their comments again. The set up is like this. TSM Server : Windows NT 4.0 SP6, TSM 5.1.0.0 392 MB memory, P III Adaptech Ultra SCSI Hard Disk : Internal Hardware RAID 5: array A : 8.678GB * 3 : 17.356GB data and 8.678 GB parity array B : 35.003 GB * 3 : 70.006GB data and 35.003 GB parity. Both array A and array B are connected to the same channel. OS and TSM 5.1 are installed on array A TSM data base, recovery log and Disk storage pool are installed in array B. Database : 2GB+2GB = 4 GB and mirrored at TSM level on the same array Recovery Log : 500MB + 500 MB = 1 GB and mirrored at TSM level on the same array Disk Storage pool : 10GB+10GB+10GB+10GB+5GB=45GB on array B TSM client: 4.1.2.12 ( Tivoli says 4.1.2.12 is not supported with 5.1 Server. But i could take the backup,archive and restore with this combination ) Number of Clients : 55, all are windows Incremental backup : 1GB/ client/day. backup window : 9AM to 6PM with 50% randamization ( all are in polling mode ) LAN : 100Mbps End of the day only 10 clients could finish the backup.Remaining all are missing or ? ( in progress ) or failed. Through the entire backup window the CPU load is 100% with dsmsvc.exe holding 98% I tested with various options. I stopped the schedular and fired 3 clients backup manually at the same time.Each client has 1 GB of incremental data. It took three hours to finish the backup. While backing up i observed there was lot of idletime outs of sessions. Network choke is not there. I checked this with FTP. Whats the bottleneck here? Is RAID 5 is creating problems ( DB,log and storage pool all are on the RAID 5 )? I asked the customer to arrange a testing machine without any RAID. I will be getting that in two days.Before going on to the testing i like to know your comments on this. Regards Raghu S Nivas Consultant - TSM DCM Data Systems Ltd New Delhi India. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAID5 in TSM
Raghu S wrote: Hi, There was a lot of discussion on this topic before.But i am requesting TSM gurus give their comments again. The set up is like this. TSM Server : Windows NT 4.0 SP6, TSM 5.1.0.0 392 MB memory, P III Adaptech Ultra SCSI Hard Disk : Internal Hardware RAID 5: array A : 8.678GB * 3 : 17.356GB data and 8.678 GB parity array B : 35.003 GB * 3 : 70.006GB data and 35.003 GB parity. Both array A and array B are connected to the same channel. OS and TSM 5.1 are installed on array A TSM data base, recovery log and Disk storage pool are installed in array B. Database : 2GB+2GB = 4 GB and mirrored at TSM level on the same array Recovery Log : 500MB + 500 MB = 1 GB and mirrored at TSM level on the same array Disk Storage pool : 10GB+10GB+10GB+10GB+5GB=45GB on array B TSM client: 4.1.2.12 ( Tivoli says 4.1.2.12 is not supported with 5.1 Server. But i could take the backup,archive and restore with this combination ) Number of Clients : 55, all are windows Incremental backup : 1GB/ client/day. backup window : 9AM to 6PM with 50% randamization ( all are in polling mode ) LAN : 100Mbps End of the day only 10 clients could finish the backup.Remaining all are missing or ? ( in progress ) or failed. Through the entire backup window the CPU load is 100% with dsmsvc.exe holding 98% I tested with various options. I stopped the schedular and fired 3 clients backup manually at the same time.Each client has 1 GB of incremental data. It took three hours to finish the backup. While backing up i observed there was lot of idletime outs of sessions. Network choke is not there. I checked this with FTP. Whats the bottleneck here? Is RAID 5 is creating problems ( DB,log and storage pool all are on the RAID 5 )? I asked the customer to arrange a testing machine without any RAID. I will be getting that in two days.Before going on to the testing i like to know your comments on this. Regards Raghu S Nivas Consultant - TSM DCM Data Systems Ltd New Delhi India. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Well you have heard several answers so far so I won't repeat what they have said, but I would like to add a couple of new things that can improve you performance. * First of all 392MB of memory isn't enough for a desktop machine today let alone a server. Windows performance is very much dictated by the amount of memory it has. I would upgrade to at least 2GB, you might get by or at least see improvements with 1GB, but 2GB will be much better. * You don't mention your network config, but having multiple NICs will help. Also, make sure your are using full duplexmode if at all possible. * You are using polling, I prefer server prompted because I can better control the load on my system by tuning it with maxsessions and maxschedsessions. With server prompted I can bring the server upto peak operating load rapidly and keep at its peak until the client load starts to reduce due to client backups completing. Backup windows are always considerably smaller using this methodology. * If you must stick with polling then reduce your randomization to about 25%. Also, make sure that your maxsessions and maxschedsessions are set to accomadate the load. * All your drives are on one SCSI bus, this is bad! Add more SCSI controllers or at least take advantage of multiple channels on the same card. * Take ITSM DB and LOG off of RAID 5 and just use ITSM mirroring. * Make sure LOG and DB are not on same drive(s) * But LOG and DB mirrors on different SCSI bus from primary * You must decide if you need to protect your storage pool with RAID or not. This can be one of those philosophical debates, but you must decide that in the event of a disk crash can you afford to loose a nights worth of backups, i.e. can it easily be retrieved from the client or has the data already been changed. * If you don't need the protection of RAID 5 for your storage pools, then make one volume per drive. Again spread these across SCSI channels and controllers if possible. There have been many posts on this list about performance tuning so you can refer to them if you need to. However I am willing to bet the biggest problem here is the limited memory. The next biggest problem is the disk configuration. Regards, Mark D. Rodriguez President MDR Consulting, Inc. === MDR Consulting The very best in Technical Training and Consulting. IBM Advanced Business Partner SAIR Linux and GNU Authorized Center for Education IBM Certified Advanced Technical Expert, CATE AIX Support and Performance Tuning, RS6000 SP, TSM/ADSM and Linux Red Hat Certified Engineer, RHCE
